Chivalry: is it dead?!

[Steve Rogers]

Wanted to throw something out here and get everyone's input.....men and women....all comments are welcome. The question I am throwing out here: Is Chivalry dead?

 Ever since I have come into the hobby world(not long mind you.) I have been upset by all the negative things that providers have been telling me about admirers doing to them/or not doing to them. Let me give a couple of examples......I had one lady tell me that she had clients take their donation back(stealing).  Another that she was raped.....multiple times. Men being rough when that was not agreed upon or the trust was not there. The more I spend time with the ladies here on TOB, the more my heart goes out to them and all the crap that they have put up with. I recently had a lady share that she was being harassed by men here on TOB.

 I feel like we as men and admirers could be doing more for the ladies and providers in the hobby world. Small things.....like asking if they need anything before we see them. Being polite via phone calls, e-mails and text messages. Trying to share common interests and talking about them. Remembering life events and dropping a quick "Happy Birthday!' "Merry Christmas" etc. Not haggling on rates. The list goes on. 

 For the ladies: What could we do as admirers to help you? What do you appreciate most about your favorite clients?

 For the men: What do you like to do for ladies that you meet with? What do you appreciate most about your favorite providers?

 

[Leyla Scott]

And this is why, I absolutely adore you! Thoughtful, kind, and may I say, very handsome! 😍

Thanks for posting this to give the gents food for thought. We appreciate when a client goes out of their way even with the simplest of gestures. Those are the clients that we develop long term friendships with; there’s always going to be that business side, however, the friendship that clients offer to us and we offer back, is truly from the heart. 

What all gents need to remember is, you’ll get SO much more out of a lady with kindness, consideration and respect! My motto is, treat everyone how you’d like to be treated. It’s Simple! 
 

[Steve Rogers]

Well said Leyla! And please don't inflate my ego too much.....

A saying I like is "Kindness costs nothing. "

[CountryGentleman]

Truer words have never been said.  
 

I do need to be better at sending short notes of encouragement, etc.  I also want to be considerate of their time and not be a time waster.  

[Steve Rogers]

CountryGentleman:

 What do you consider to be time wasting? Would you be willing to provide examples?

[pfunk]

2 hours ago, Leyla Scott said:

My motto is, treat everyone how you’d like to be treated. It’s Simple! 

This is a motto I try to live by also. Thank you for mentioning it!

Treating anyone else poorly, whether it's a provider, or a client, is just asking for bad karma.

None of us want that! 

[Becolo]

6 hours ago, Steve Rogers said:

Wanted to throw something out here and get everyone's input.....men and women....all comments are welcome. The question I am throwing out here: Is Chivalry dead?

 Ever since I have come into the hobby world(not long mind you.) I have been upset by all the negative things that providers have been telling me about admirers doing to them/or not doing to them. Let me give a couple of examples......I had one lady tell me that she had clients take their donation back(stealing).  Another that she was raped.....multiple times. Men being rough when that was not agreed upon or the trust was not there. The more I spend time with the ladies here on TOB, the more my heart goes out to them and all the crap that they have put up with. I recently had a lady share that she was being harassed by men here on TOB.

 I feel like we as men and admirers could be doing more for the ladies and providers in the hobby world. Small things.....like asking if they need anything before we see them. Being polite via phone calls, e-mails and text messages. Trying to share common interests and talking about them. Remembering life events and dropping a quick "Happy Birthday!' "Merry Christmas" etc. Not haggling on rates. The list goes on. 

 For the ladies: What could we do as admirers to help you? What do you appreciate most about your favorite clients?

 For the men: What do you like to do for ladies that you meet with? What do you appreciate most about your favorite providers?

 

Not dead at all!!! As a gentleman we should always (as I do and suppose most of you do as well) do ask what I (we) bring as a gesture of appreciation . 

[Steve Rogers]

Becolo,

Do you mind giving examples of the gestures of appreciation that you have given?

[sparkey600]

I, for one decide who I want to see (with my wife or singularly) Reach out to them and once a date is set up it like's it a DATE! If it's an outcall to my place there's steaks on the grill and a fine bottle wine on hand. We all have a nice dinner, retire to the hut tub then some play time. All is good! If it's her incall, I play by her rules, no worries! I MOST love an incall to our home with my wife and I, so much fun!

My short answer? Chivalry is NOT dead at all. Maybe people are looking for it in the wrong places.........

[Steve Rogers]

Thank you for replying Sparky, and I love your answers. A man who cooks is a man indeed!

[stevie-2249]

Take everything said with a grain of salt

[average1]

A great topic.  I've also heard some very sad tales about how some of the ladies have been treated.  I may be an old guy, and old fashioned, but I don't get why any fellow would do harm, physically or psychologically, to any of the ladies.  I consider it a privilege to meet with some fantastic ladies and always want to be respectful, kind, fun and playful.  I've said this so many times... I get the business side of this, but for me it is about consenting adults having consensual and shared fun with one another.  Treating the ladies as genuine humans, not just commodities is hugely important to me.  It is more than inserting peg A into slot B.  It is about setting aside cares and troubles...and sharing some fun with like minded ladies.  I am grateful that I have the opportunity to meet and share time with some wonderful ladies. 

[Billstringer]

21 hours ago, Steve Rogers said:

Wanted to throw something out here and get everyone's input.....men and women....all comments are welcome. The question I am throwing out here: Is Chivalry dead?

 Ever since I have come into the hobby world(not long mind you.) I have been upset by all the negative things that providers have been telling me about admirers doing to them/or not doing to them. Let me give a couple of examples......I had one lady tell me that she had clients take their donation back(stealing).  Another that she was raped.....multiple times. Men being rough when that was not agreed upon or the trust was not there. The more I spend time with the ladies here on TOB, the more my heart goes out to them and all the crap that they have put up with. I recently had a lady share that she was being harassed by men here on TOB.

 I feel like we as men and admirers could be doing more for the ladies and providers in the hobby world. Small things.....like asking if they need anything before we see them. Being polite via phone calls, e-mails and text messages. Trying to share common interests and talking about them. Remembering life events and dropping a quick "Happy Birthday!' "Merry Christmas" etc. Not haggling on rates. The list goes on. 

 For the ladies: What could we do as admirers to help you? What do you appreciate most about your favorite clients?

 For the men: What do you like to do for ladies that you meet with? What do you appreciate most about your favorite providers?

 

Great post. There are still many of us who are gentlemen and are respectful. But there are a lot of jerks out there too. 

[Steve Rogers]

I believe that most who are reading this are already practicing chivalry. 

 I could be wrong, but probably the men that need to see this most and take to heart,  won't. 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Steve Rogers said:

I believe that most who are reading this are already practicing chivalry. 

 I could be wrong, but probably the men that need to see this most and take to heart,  won't. 

Agreed. I, for one, always strive to be the exception in her daily routine. It’s not always perfect but perfect behavior is always the goal!

[gr8owl]

I believe you have the wrong word.  Per Oxford:

"the combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, especially courage, honor, courtesy, justice, and a readiness to help the weak."

I believe you are looking for the courtesy part and throw in respect and I agree.  For the vast majority of participants on an escort board who are cheating on someone and well, bending the law I am not sure the courage, honor and justice part exactly apply lol.  Not excluding myself from that statement, just being honest.

And sadly, yes, chivalry if not dead is at least on life support.

[Steve Rogers]

Thank you for bringing that up gr8owl. 

The right word does matter.... maybe I should've used respect and courtesy.

Not to detract but the word gentlemen has "lost" its meaning. Gentleman refers to someone that owns land and has a coat of arms...... if we still used gentleman's true definition...... there would be very few gentlemen in world. 

[Kaduk]

 

[Steve Rogers]

A very appropriate song Kaduk. I have never heard that one.  This was the song that I was thinking of when writing this topic.

 

[VirgilBliss]

 

[lintlizard]

On 10/8/2021 at 4:15 PM, Leyla Scott said:

 My motto is, treat everyone how you’d like to be treated. It’s Simple! 

 

This.

[lustybustygina]

On 10/9/2021 at 5:35 PM, Steve Rogers said:

A very appropriate song Kaduk. I have never heard that one.  This was the song that I was thinking of when writing this topic.

 

Man I loved this song . where has she been? Where is my John Wayne ?

Edited October 11, 2021 by lustybustygina

[hornyoldtoad]

chivalry is not dead - there are a few good folks out here making sure of it - and if we work hard enough as communities we can keep chivalry from extinction...

[Deja Dinero]

Honestly, (MOST OF )the gentlemen that I've met while here in Colorado have been just that, GENTLEMAN. I admit I have some screening I require before I'll even text, let alone see a guy. But since implementing such measures, I have had less issues.

In the past, I have been put in a few difficult, uncomfortable and even some scary situations while participating in this lifestyle. Hence, the precautions I now take.

I appreciate any and ALL guys who don't give me a hard time about it and who make the screening process flow so much easier by taking the time to read everything on my site before trying to schedule as well as filling out ALL the screening information so that we can set up arrangements and get to the fun stuff alot quicker.

I promise I have a reason for doing everything the way that I do, and once we meet, you'll realize; I'm sure, that it was all definitely worth it!

But besides that, it's the small things I appreciate....I always love gifts and gift cards and have had a great couple of guys bring me some AWESOME flowers since I've been here (my favorite kind too!!!). I also appreciate a guy who brings food or other refreshments since sometimes it's hard for us ladies to get out and get food, especially while touring, or when it's an early and late night visit.

But there are always those guys I seem to really connect with and have great chemistry with. That's when there's great flowing convo, laughter being shared and a good time all around is had by us both....And I admit I have met quite a few amazing gents during my time here who I definitely enjoyed my time with (Like the OP for example😘)

I can usually tell how my chemistry will be and how a session will go, just by the way a guy responds (or barely responds) when directed to my screening or before meeting through his texts and responses...

I appreciate the guys who try to make things flow easier, who respect your screening and safety. As well as those who treat you as like you are exactly what theyve been wanting ....and for those guys, I make sure to give them EXACTLY what they need, want and desire... and then some 😜👏👏👏❤️‍🔥🫂💋

 

There's definitely something about a gentleman who looks to make sure that I'm comfortable and that we're both enjoying ourselves, that gets me going everytime 👌 💦🥵😈🤤

I had a gent who took to massaging my shoulders as I devoured my own "meal".....and I thought that was so nice of him😍This in turn made me make sure I gave him all the extra effort and affection😜

I'm a southern girl who appreciates chivalry in all forms. I'm very respectful myself and love to cater to men as well. I hold open the door for men and women all the time out in public lol.... it's funny bc some guys dont know how to react when I do it lol...

But it's a 2 way street.... I'm a giver, so I'm happy when I meet a worthy gent who can appreciate all I do as well and give the same sentiment in return.

 

 

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by Deja Dinero

[Phil-anderer]

I don't believe it's dead at all.  

Dave Chapelle, however, has a funny take on it.      

 

[Bravo1]

My goal in any interaction with a provider or any woman I deal with in real life is to make her feel comfortable and safe.  I don't get too cozy too quickly with a provider, using terms of endearment I might use with someone I'm in an actual relationship.  For me personally, it just doesn't come off smooth or real so I just focus on being respectful.  We both know why I am there but that doesn't mean I get to act entitled or then pissy if I don't get my way.  I'm still a guest, a very grateful guest so I'm gonna be on my best behavior.  When communicating I strive to find a balance between being friendly but not too friendly or time consuming.  I'm not the only one and want to be cognizant of her time.  For my personal hopes and expectations from an appointment, my strategy has been perfect. 

[Bravo1]

On 10/10/2021 at 9:12 AM, lintlizard said:

On 10/8/2021 at 5:36 PM, Steve Rogers said:

CountryGentleman:

 What do you consider to be time wasting? Would you be willing to provide examples?

I think getting a little too "familiar" with a provider, sending texts randomly to chat when you don't have an upcoming appointment could be out of line.  If she has said she is open to that, then ok but to just casually message and chat with someone who probably deals with a ridiculous amount of emails and texts on a daily basis isn't good policy.  

 

[Kaduk]

20 hours ago, Bravo1 said:

On 10/8/2021 at 5:36 PM, Steve Rogers said:

CountryGentleman:

 What do you consider to be time wasting? Would you be willing to provide examples?

I think getting a little too "familiar" with a provider, sending texts randomly to chat when you don't have an upcoming appointment could be out of line.  If she has said she is open to that, then ok but to just casually message and chat with someone who probably deals with a ridiculous amount of emails and texts on a daily basis isn't good policy.  

•Some may be more patient then others with communication protocols, the back and for banter. The more time spent and then to not follow through is time wasted i.e Time Waster.....

[average1]

I never want to be a "time waster", so for ladies who are new to me I keep things friendly, clear and respectful in my communications.  There a are a few ladies I've seen multiple times.  With them, some flirty, risque texts prior to the meeting is a turn on for me.  It adds to the anticipatory excitement.  But I never want to overdo it.  It all depends on the comfort level of the lady, and I always want to honor her time and her boundaries.

[Mr.Pink]

OP, have you thought about changing your name to Simp Rogers? It's not your job to be their personal Jesus.