Wywill

Accept venmo or credit cards?

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Like the title says is there a good way to check if a provider accepts CC? It seems like poor form to ask via text but perhaps direct is the way to go. Any help is appreciated! thank you!

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5 hours ago, Wywill said:

Like the title says is there a good way to check if a provider accepts CC? It seems like poor form to ask via text but perhaps direct is the way to go. Any help is appreciated! thank you!

Ask. If you don’t have p411 where it says they do, or their ad, or their site, or their Twitter, and wherever else you might find a posting the sure fire way to find out is to ask. They’ll either say they don’t or they do. 

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Ask they can either say yes or no 😊 

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1 hour ago, sb1212 said:

IMHO, why would either party want an electronic transaction trail?  

I’m personally not worried about a paper/electronic trail on my end. Ok she gets busted and I show a transaction amount amongst who knows how many on a popular app used specifically for transactions that allow you to put any and everything in the byline for its purpose. Please prove what I gave funds for. 

On the other end, I asked one of the well established, well reviewed TOB ladies that does accept alternative forms why she does. “Because I can easily file taxes with it under my LLC.”  She offered a bit more about it being case by case and so on but that was the biggest takeaway. 

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Most providers DO NOT. Several reasons. First transactions can be reversed; second electronic trail; third hassle doing it even with "Squar".

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4 hours ago, MeganMarie4u said:

Cash

is

KING!  

Thank you MM4U....Amen to THIS!!!

Then the worse case scenario is the money trail stops at the local ATM...

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I've run out of rep points, but I agree with the posts that believe "Cash is King".  I prefer no direct financial trail, even though I am unattached (divorced).

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Use to until to many dicks disputed the transaction causing me to lose several hundred, maybe eve a thousand dollars over time. Personally it's not worth it to me to accept CC, but I am sure you can ask someone what forms of payment they will accept.

 

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3 hours ago, pointymoustache said:

Most providers DO NOT. Several reasons. First transactions can be reversed; second electronic trail; third hassle doing it even with "Squar".

I used Square at one point, but they are not Business friendly at all. If a client disputes a payment you automatically lose without even being able to argue your case, and they will take that money directly from your bank account. I had this happen many times, lost several hundred right around Christmas because a client disputed the transaction, and when I confronted him about it, he came up with some excuse, said he would bring me cash but of course never did. After that I just deleted my square account, and stopped accepting CC all together. 

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2 minutes ago, Crystyna said:

I used Square at one point, but they are not Business friendly at all. If a client disputes a payment you automatically lose without even being able to argue your case, and they will take that money directly from your bank account. I had this happen many times, lost several hundred right around Christmas because a client disputed the transaction, and when I confronted him about it, he came up with some excuse, said he would bring me cash but of course never did. After that I just deleted my square account, and stopped accepting CC all together. 

If I were a provider, this is the reason I would not take cards. Too many douchbags on the clients' side. And I'm a client who would love to use a card! :eek:

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A couple of the alternative ad sites ask providers to specify acceptable payment methods - skip the games and adultlook for instance.  Most ladies that have a website will specify there.  I see absolutely no harm in asking if all else fails.  For the reasons listed, I believe it is risky business for ladies to accept anything besides cash, but their business not mine.  Oh, yeah, at the alternative sites if they list every means under the sun, you won't be talking with a genuine escort lol.

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37 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

A couple of the alternative ad sites ask providers to specify acceptable payment methods - skip the games and adultlook for instance.  Most ladies that have a website will specify there.  I see absolutely no harm in asking if all else fails.  For the reasons listed, I believe it is risky business for ladies to accept anything besides cash, but their business not mine.  Oh, yeah, at the alternative sites if they list every means under the sun, you won't be talking with a genuine escort lol.

Damn, I agree with you again. Not sure how that happened 😂

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23 hours ago, JoDoe27 said:

I’m personally not worried about a paper/electronic trail on my end. Ok she gets busted and I show a transaction amount amongst who knows how many on a popular app used specifically for transactions that allow you to put any and everything in the byline for its purpose. Please prove what I gave funds for. 

On the other end, I asked one of the well established, well reviewed TOB ladies that does accept alternative forms why she does. “Because I can easily file taxes with it under my LLC.”  She offered a bit more about it being case by case and so on but that was the biggest takeaway. 

Ok if she gets busted, they will know her rates. If you are a frequent flyer, they will see a number of transactions, with the rate amount. I am not saying they will hunt you down.  But being as far off the radar as possible, is important to me. Why give them a reason to store that info in their system.

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2 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

Ok if she gets busted, they will know her rates. If you are a frequent flyer, they will see a number of transactions, with the rate amount. I am not saying they will hunt you down.  But being as far off the radar as possible, is important to me. Why give them a reason to store that info in their system.

Meh. I’ll take my chances. I guess after being around for about a decade now and using alternative methods for, well, a number of years with no issues I’m not all that concerned. 

“Looks like you got a transaction from JoDoe27 on this date for this amount. Yeah we know exactly who that is.” The funny thing is I do believe there’s cause for concern in this industry across the board and we all pick and choose where that is. This one isn’t one for me. So far no issues. So far no concerns. So far nothing but convenience. And when I’m done with that anonymous Venmo account I can easily set up another. 

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5 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

Ok if she gets busted, they will know her rates. If you are a frequent flyer, they will see a number of transactions, with the rate amount. I am not saying they will hunt you down.  But being as far off the radar as possible, is important to me. Why give them a reason to store that info in their system.

Oh and cops can’t force you to unlock your phones if that’s the concern. Violation of the 4th amendment. There’s also some fun bits in there about self incrimination and yada yada yada. That doesn’t mean they won’t try, but I mean, we all trust cops to do what’s right and abide by the laws right?

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48 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

Oh and cops can’t force you to unlock your phones if that’s the concern. Violation of the 4th amendment. There’s also some fun bits in there about self incrimination and yada yada yada. That doesn’t mean they won’t try, but I mean, we all trust cops to do what’s right and abide by the laws right?

Do not even begin to kid yourself!  The cops don't ask you to unlock your phone - they just take it and get some county judge to sign a form "warrant" and unlock it themselves (yes, even iphones).  Then they bleed out everything, photos, texts, notes, whatever is stored on the phone, including passwords, access codes, etc.

Don't even think about arguing this point, it just happened to a good friend of mine right here in town, last month, and it was an iPhone.  They never returned the phone, but were nice enough to give him the contents on a thumb-drive (as part of the discovery process).  When the FBI hired the hackers to open up the terrorist's iPhone, they shared the trick with all of their LEO buddies.

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54 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

Oh and cops can’t force you to unlock your phones if that’s the concern. Violation of the 4th amendment.

Cops on TV worry a lot about the 4th amendment.  Cops on the street don't give a shit if they think they are doing the right thing to nab a criminal.

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27 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

Do not even begin to kid yourself!  The cops don't ask you to unlock your phone - they just take it and get some county judge to sign a form "warrant" and unlock it themselves (yes, even iphones).  Then they bleed out everything, photos, texts, notes, whatever is stored on the phone, including passwords, access codes, etc.

Don't even think about arguing this point, it just happened to a good friend of mine right here in town, last month, and it was an iPhone.  They never returned the phone, but were nice enough to give him the contents on a thumb-drive (as part of the discovery process).  When the FBI hired the hackers to open up the terrorist's iPhone, they shared the trick with all of their LEO buddies.

I think you missed my sarcasm about them being upstanding and staying within the bounds of the law. 

It was ruled early this year they can’t force you to unlock it. Now that might not include them hacking into it but they can’t force you to do it which it sounds like they didn’t force your friend. Which, if you reread my post, I specified in saying both that as well as the point you made in that it doesn’t mean they won’t try.

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40 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

Do not even begin to kid yourself!  The cops don't ask you to unlock your phone - they just take it and get some county judge to sign a form "warrant" and unlock it themselves (yes, even iphones).  Then they bleed out everything, photos, texts, notes, whatever is stored on the phone, including passwords, access codes, etc.

Don't even think about arguing this point, it just happened to a good friend of mine right here in town, last month, and it was an iPhone.  They never returned the phone, but were nice enough to give him the contents on a thumb-drive (as part of the discovery process).  When the FBI hired the hackers to open up the terrorist's iPhone, they shared the trick with all of their LEO buddies.

Oh! Can you say what your friend got popped for and why they were so interested in their phone? And can you, or anyone for that matter, say if this has happened to providers that have been busted? No sarcasm with that question. It’s just nice to actually get real examples and circumstances instead of blanketed and often blind speculation. And again, I do not trust cops or put anything past them. The judicial system also receives that same distrust. 

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11 hours ago, Phil-anderer said:

We really need a bitcoin alternative.  CumCoin?  

does a CumCoin = a limp bitcoin biscuit ?

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On 9/11/2019 at 4:30 PM, Crystyna said:

I used Square at one point, but they are not Business friendly at all. If a client disputes a payment you automatically lose without even being able to argue your case, and they will take that money directly from your bank account. I had this happen many times, lost several hundred right around Christmas because a client disputed the transaction, and when I confronted him about it, he came up with some excuse, said he would bring me cash but of course never did. After that I just deleted my square account, and stopped accepting CC all together. 

There's an interesting lawsuit I read about a few weeks back in California.  Seems there's a law that companies aren't allowed to discriminate against any legal business, or something like that.  So all those categories that Square and the others block according to their terms of service might get thrown out.

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I only use venmo for a cancellation fee or a deposit when I travel.  I have heard the apps taking the funds of several people, and freezing their accounts.  

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Tried it once. Provider asked me to donate $10 via venmo to "make sure I was legit." Then later she wouldn't give me her address till I donated the full amount. Decided to bounce. Glad I did. Still want my 10 back.

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