Offering bbfs

[Leyla Scott]

That got your attention didn’t it? Haha

NO! I’m not offering bbfs… Ever! But I wanted to get something out there for all you(s) that think you’re entitled to it because you have seen a provider repetitively. 

Recently, I have had a few clients that went cold turkey on me after I refused to do bbfs with them. They felt entitled to it because after all, they’re repeat clients that ‘claim’ they only see me!! Yeah right. 

I very much appreciate your enthusiasm and your need to feel so close to me. I’d like to say, you haven’t taught me any lessons by not seeing me anymore… good riddance! We are not a good fit.  however, this I do know, you will get your lesson soon! Stupid dumbass me, who thought we had a connection. 

There are many STDs that we don’t test for FYI. They can’t test for them because they will yield inconclusive indexes and results or they can’t test until an outbreak pops up… how fun! These STDs will stay dormant in your Trigeminal nerve and reap havoc in due time. You’ll never be rid of them. Explain that to your wifey or GF. If she’s popping it bare for you, she’s popping it bare for many others. She’ll even say no when you ask her about it. 

There are many girls offering bbfs with an up charge (or not), good luck with that! I’d rather protect my business and reputation which I have worked hard to build and keep all clients safe. Condoms suck, I think they do too… however, it’s the best protection against ‘genital’ STIs. There are other ways of uncovered satisfaction or even female condoms. 

For those girls that are offering bbfs, you’re putting yourselves and clients and even the rest of us at risk. Also, clients kiss & tell - always! 
 

Have a wonderful day everyone!  With much love and no cooties, 

Leyla 💕

 

 

 

 

[Just Jos]

Yaassssss to all of this! This is a subject I have a hard time wrapping my brain around also. Most* (80%) of my clients are married and it’s down right baffling how many are willing to risk their health, the providers health, the health of our community as a whole, AND their SO’s health in a moment of weakness. Being single,  I RARELY have recreational sex these days but to the point - the last time I barebacked anyone was YEARS ago. It’s a sacrifice I make to keep me and my clients safe. 
 

After almost a decade in the business this question really grinds my gears so I have started answering it in person with a super snide answer. It goes like this - 
 

Client: “…Its just that I have a REALLY hard time cumming with a condom on…” 

Me: “Geewiz that sucks. But  I probably won’t even cum at all,  so I guess we’ll just get through this together…”  🥴🤷🏽‍♀️   
 

Just bc it may not be true - doesn’t mean it’s not the answer they deserve. 🤣  I admit 9 times out of 10 it Makes for an awkward rest of the session but I have learned it’s not necessarily a deal breaker and some of the clients I’ve had to say that to have even tried rebooking. The caveat here though is that lots of times the client will come back with “well so and so does it” and once I know you’re bare backing any of my colleagues I do not wish to see you anymore and that provider is no longer considered a “good” reference for me… So yeah - the clients talk and it’s not always through the back channel. They’re outting you to allllllll of us. Believe that!

 

[Leyla Scott]

💯 @Just Jos  

[lustybustygina]

Had a young 25yr tell me he's a Virgin , witch is fine .. Then he goes well I pick you to lose my Virginity and only you I want to do this with and I need No Condom as I feel you are the safe ( yes im safe as for no std's and keeping myself safe ) ..   ha ha Right good luck !!

[pfunk]

I know clients ask for this, but I'm still a little shocked. Unprotected FS is just like inviting an STD. 

Stupid, stupid, stupid...

[Seeker5280]

Why is this a topic to discuss?

Get past it!

Please.

[Copper-pipee]

I know it’s been harder and hard to find a gfe. But I’d never ask for bbfs. I’ve been offered it several time by reputable ladies. Some just because they ran out of covers, other times they ask if I want to get it raw. It always blows my mind. 
 

The only time I ever actually had anything happen was when a cover broke while I was mid performance. Let’s just say it made me quit seeing escorts for a year or so. 
 

After lots of blood tests and lots of sweating myself and I sleep at night. I eventually started seeing ladies again. 
 

I even told my doctor what I was doing, he laughed and told me the chances of getting anything was slim and the chances of getting anything super serious was insanely slim. he was correct, I am good to go. 

[average1]

I guess some gents are willing to take more risks than I am willing to take.  Using a cover for FS is what I want and I have not had any trouble with them blocking the "sensations".  I am grateful for the ladies who use caution with regard to FS.  It makes me feel much more comfortable and safe.

[Leyla Scott]

14 hours ago, Seeker5280 said:

Why is this a topic to discuss?

Get past it!

Please.

Right?? Because it’s happening to us in a daily basis. I had a guy try to do it yesterday, despite the fact that I said no!  It happens every single day where someone asks or tries to be sly! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[Leyla Scott]

11 hours ago, Copper-pipee said:

I know it’s been harder and hard to find a gfe. But I’d never ask for bbfs. I’ve been offered it several time by reputable ladies. Some just because they ran out of covers, other times they ask if I want to get it raw. It always blows my mind. 
 

The only time I ever actually had anything happen was when a cover broke while I was mid performance. Let’s just say it made me quit seeing escorts for a year or so. 
 

After lots of blood tests and lots of sweating myself and I sleep at night. I eventually started seeing ladies again. 
 

I even told my doctor what I was doing, he laughed and told me the chances of getting anything was slim and the chances of getting anything super serious was insanely slim. he was correct, I am good to go. 

Your doc is smart! We are all safe as well,  and get tested often. But, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! For ALL. 

[Leyla Scott]

59 minutes ago, average1 said:

I guess some gents are willing to take more risks than I am willing to take.  Using a cover for FS is what I want and I have not had any trouble with them blocking the "sensations".  I am grateful for the ladies who use caution with regard to FS.  It makes me feel much more comfortable and safe.

You’re not an “average1” … I’d change your handle to “awrsome1”.  😘😘😘😘

[Mustang87]

I had it offered to me once at least 10-12 years ago during one of the rare outcalls I had ever done. She had forgotten covers but still wanted to provide FS. I declined and we found another way to get where we needed to be. Bizarre appointment though. Played out really weird, but has given me a story that I still tell, inside the community, to this day.  I'm a little shocked that SO many guys still ask for it. Just too much for everybody to risk. But the reality is that there are ladies out there, at least there were, who offer it.  Crazy. 

[lustybustygina]

How does one not keep a lot of condoms ? I have like 100 with at all time  every size / color / FC2 ..

I say your safer with a provider then picking up at a bar.. If she ueing condoms ..

[Coflyfshr83]

I think it’s becoming more common unfortunately and I’ve had it offered several times over the last couple years and each time was a huge turn off and last visit. The same is true for the providers who post pics/video getting barebacked it’s an immediate red flag for me. 

[CountryGentleman]

I agree, I screen the providers I approach by whether the seem to allow any BBFS.  In my mind, any provider that does bbfs is more likely to have an STD which is a risk I don't want.

This is one of the issues with the term "GFE"...  Some people consider bbfs part of GFE.  I don't, but every time I see "GFE" it gives me pause.

[oldguy47]

The one time I was offered FS I laughed and left. No way was I willing to risk the std OR the paternity suit.

[lustybustygina]

22 hours ago, CountryGentleman said:

I agree, I screen the providers I approach by whether the seem to allow any BBFS.  In my mind, any provider that does bbfs is more likely to have an STD which is a risk I don't want.

This is one of the issues with the term "GFE"...  Some people consider bbfs part of GFE.  I don't, but every time I see "GFE" it gives me pause.

And PSE has been said is or one my think BBFS and it's not .. 

[hornyoldtoad]

One hobby rule:

if it ain't safe - it ain't fun....

BB ain't safe...

period...

[hornyoldtoad]

Year in and year out there are the same threads and you just get used to them.  Usually its someone who may be new to this type of dating - or those who are butt hurt because they feel this hobby is inflation-proof...

but the BB threads always make me wonder WTF are some people thinking.  I know it happens.  But.  When you do the math, it so easy that one bad apple with an  STD can ruin a whole lot of lives.  Why would you be so selfish as to cast the well-being of so many who contribute to this hobby into the wind so you can have your risky-as-bb-fuck way...

Ladies who don't buckle thank you!  I know the posts here are relatively face value but please know that those of you who at least post being agains this risky behavior get noted by a lot of us who value good clean fun...

Hobby safe mongers - it does the community good.

[lustybustygina]

Don't you know That One Person is only doing it with one other person lol

so they say lol

he would never do it with any other's lol 

Just You !!

[Audrey Astor]

I agree wholeheartedly. I have been dropped from the “ATF” list/frequent flyers etc. I’m not sure about the “so and so does it”. I bet the truth is being told sometimes, but I also feel that is a pressure/manipulation technique often thrown out.

I had a client come ask for a specific service, and was shocked when I wouldn’t agree. It had been written in a review.🙄

[Raine-7379]

Put a SW on a chess board and each time you move her double  the number.  

1x1=2 2x2=4 4x4=16 16x16=256 256x256=65,536

If you have seen five SW BB you have now been in contact with 65,536 other people.  Most SW see more than one client a day. 

I have zero tolerance for being asked for bbfs.  Blocked!!!

 

[Mike940370]

I agree. always use a cover to be safe. But, what about daty? Is that safer?

[Hank H]

48 minutes ago, Mike940370 said:

I agree. always use a cover to be safe. But, what about daty? Is that safer?

DATY seems pretty safe to me. I always wonder about BBBJ. I tend to go back and forth between not using a cover and using one for BJ. I guess I’m not too sure how risky either one are. 

[sanfran54]

Personally I wouldn't see someone who offered BBFS. Heck I want to protect myself And the provider. I look at this industry as something that works by mutual respect, both emotionally and physically. Play safe and have fun is my motto. 

[stevie-2249]

7 hours ago, Mike940370 said:

I agree. always use a cover to be safe. But, what about daty? Is that safer?

Crazy how it transfers from your dick but not your mouth 🤔 they say it harder to orally

[Mike940370]

I was hoping to get more opinions on that.   Come on ladies and fellas, is daty safer than bb?   I hope that it is;  covered is fine but not for that

[Caressa Duval]

13 hours ago, Mike940370 said:

I was hoping to get more opinions on that.   Come on ladies and fellas, is daty safer than bb?   I hope that it is;  covered is fine but not for that

If you are giving DATY to multiple women in one day then, I would say there are a few things that you are at a higher risk of getting and transmitting. I know HPV can be transmitted orally, and in some cases cause cancer later down the line. Both kissing and oral can transmit HPV, Herpes ( lesions do not need to be apparent), and Chlamydia can infect the throat with no symptoms at all. In these days, even kissing is a high risk with Covid, colds, and the flu.  This is a sex forum, and this is a doctor question. The only doctor I know on here is @Phil-anderer. Maybe he will chime in.

Most escorts go to extreme measures to protect ourselves, and keep our clients safe. Definitely more so than a woman you might pick up at a bar.  As I said, a doctor question. I am not one, unless it is during roll play

Edited December 18, 2021 by Caressa Duval

[Mike940370]

Thanks for that Caressa Duval,

You're opinion is both encouraging and discouraging.  Definitly not   giving DATY to multiple women in one day ,  My desire may be twice a week but my budget is more like once a month.  I guess it can still be risky. tho.  

You say " Most escorts go to extreme measures to protect ourselves, and keep our clients safe. "   Is there a safe way? 

I also wonder  Is it more risky for the giver or the receiver?

All I know is; it's quite fun.

[Madison Taylor]

On 12/17/2021 at 9:19 AM, Hank H said:

DATY seems pretty safe to me. I always wonder about BBBJ. I tend to go back and forth between not using a cover and using one for BJ. I guess I’m not too sure how risky either one are. 

My doctor told me unless everyone is getting their mouth checked for stds (which most dont) you can 100% get stds from daty. Say someone sees one that is not so clean or offering bbfs then he goes to see another which he may have an std in his mouth and not know .... you get the picture. Daty or bbbj is not any safer although I feel most men would not see most of us if it was not offered unfortunately. But really think about the risks because I feel a lot of people don't. You can get an std from a mouth, it is possible. Maybe a bit on the rare side but yes it can happen. 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Madison Taylor
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