Cancellations

[sparkey600]

9 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

Pull up your online banking, confirm you have enough funds. Keep that amount in your bank account until the day you are to come and visit the lady. - I don’t know how many times I have heard that there was not enough funds in their their bank account. Along with the new “Covid card” excuse. As well as, I just got rear ended driving your way! Please just be honest! Leave with plenty of time. Check for traffic prior to leaving to let us know about delays with traffic, same applies  for Companions on travel. Also, if you don't have a healthy immune system? Be sure to invest in great supplements -Dr. Newtons Cal Max, C22, D3, live probiotic, and good nights sleep. With an unhealthy immunity system? Continue to wear your mask. They also now have vitamin noculations. 
  Read your companion of choice website! Which you can usually find  on her profile page on TOB. If she doesn’t have one? Find out if she has other escort platforms where she discloses such information, or just ask her what her rates are if you can’t find that information? 
 It is just that easy!

Oh, and be sure and fallow her protocol please. 😉

Babe, stay away from this guy. He's trouble for sure! great ADVICE FOR SURE! 

[sparkey600]

On 8/13/2021 at 4:31 PM, Hobby Hobbit said:

Old Shit Lips himself thinks me an ass? Well, he would know!

A hand job? What a commodian.

OK, thanks for the fun. You now have to go away. Back to WHEVER you might think you are right and everyone else is wrong. (Is it me or is it everyone else??) Ask yourself this.....

You are RUDE and have a denial about our lovely ladies that might make an exception  and POSSIBLY see you. I don't think anyone here would see you after the BS you just posted. Do us all a favor and get lost on E Colfax, that's where you and your shitty attitude needs to be. No, even those girls deserve to be treated better than you treat women. Sorry for that remark. I get hot headed sometimes, as most of my friends here know!  Perhaps you might start stamp collecting or playing pool as a new hobby? Because this hobby is going to be dead to you. Do you read your replies? Do you you know everyone on her reads them?

Good bye......

[Hunter VanDyke]

On 8/13/2021 at 4:50 PM, Hobby Hobbit said:

This was helpful, Sugar Britches because,  unlike the OP, whose website clearly states her cancelation policy, the provider in question had none. Does this mean I'm off the blacklist?

If I had to guess she probably labeled you as a timewaster which you are, and the ladies need to be aware, so they won't miss appts with good clients because of you.  I would hope not. 

[Hunter VanDyke]

On 8/13/2021 at 4:51 PM, Hobby Hobbit said:

I'll be sure to follow you for more financial advise

If clients are upset that providers require real world info, cancelation fees, and deposits, they only need to look to you and the countless shitty clients like yourself in our community.  

 

[Hunter VanDyke]

Thank you to the outfuckingstanding clients and providers here who actually have a clue! 🙏👏💙🤗❤🥰❣

[Guest]

This is scary

[Naomi-0172]

On 7/20/2021 at 11:59 AM, Leyla Scott said:

Good morning lovely gentlemen,

I am at my wit’s end with last minute or same day cancellations recently along with gentlemen pulling the “No Call No Show”.   Please understand your provider’s cancellation policy and abide by it. PLEASE respect our time. It is extremely hard to get those same day cancellations spots filled and it is business lost!  Life happens on our end and on yours. We get it. You have to pay for our time lost. 

Please pay your cancellation fee even if it’s the full donation because it is only fair.  If you want to avoid getting on anyone’s shit list, and on others’ shit list, because we girls talk to each other, then respect our policies and PAY without throwing a toddler tantrum. 
 

Thank you!

 

I feel the same. 14 cancellations in one day. 7 TOB members 7 non members.  So did we just send all clients and not commit to times and waste their time like they waste our time or require deposit? It has been lose/lose situation but I think we try our best to provide great service and have a great attitude but seems like people can not be on time.  I have had to cancel several also for no communication or being 30 or 45 mins late and have to say no because otherwise they create a scheduling conflict for others who are on time.  people be good people please 

[pfunk]

2 hours ago, Naomi-0172 said:

I feel the same. 14 cancellations in one day. 7 TOB members 7 non members.  So did we just send all clients and not commit to times and waste their time like they waste our time or require deposit? It has been lose/lose situation but I think we try our best to provide great service and have a great attitude but seems like people can not be on time.  I have had to cancel several also for no communication or being 30 or 45 mins late and have to say no because otherwise they create a scheduling conflict for others who are on time.  people be good people please 

Honestly, I'm stunned! I can't imagine how horrible this is, for you, and other ladies experiencing the same!

I hope this stops, and guys start behaving better! 

[sparkey600]

On 8/15/2021 at 11:09 PM, LightningP said:

This is scary

 

On 8/15/2021 at 11:09 PM, LightningP said:

This is scary

Yes it is, but it's something the ladies here have to put up with! Advice, be nice, say what you mean, do what you say. Everything after that will be truly appreciated ten fold!  

[sparkey600]

On 8/15/2021 at 6:20 PM, Hunter VanDyke said:

If I had to guess she probably labeled you as a timewaster which you are, and the ladies need to be aware, so they won't miss appts with good clients because of you.  I would hope not. 

Well said....as usual!

[Bootsce]

If you you’re worried about how much it costs to play you’re doing it wrong.

Consider treating each other better. 
 

let the trolls shout at the rain, they are inconsequential and will just drag you down. 
 

Agree there is a population that are problematic  Providers have systems they trust to address  best we can do is do our best to not drop into that process  

 

[Phil-anderer]

On 8/16/2021 at 5:51 PM, Naomi-0172 said:

I feel the same. 14 cancellations in one day. 7 TOB members 7 non members.  So did we just send all clients and not commit to times and waste their time like they waste our time or require deposit? It has been lose/lose situation but I think we try our best to provide great service and have a great attitude but seems like people can not be on time.  I have had to cancel several also for no communication or being 30 or 45 mins late and have to say no because otherwise they create a scheduling conflict for others who are on time.  people be good people please 

Good lord.... you absolutely do not deserve that. 

[HeavenlyBellaCO]

On 7/20/2021 at 7:00 PM, Leyla Scott said:

I think collecting deposits is the way to go… i haven’t done it yet but I think it’s becoming necessary. If you cancel last minute, you have compensated for her time with the deposit. If she has to cancel, you get your deposit back & reschedule. Easy peasy. 

I have a THD~time hold donation.It’s very minimal and the gentlemen that have gladly given them are quality gentlemen. If they have to cancel I offer it back to them. All of them told me to hold on to it for the next time they request. Works out for both parties well. If a gentleman doesn’t feel comfortable with doing it I politely decline seeing them. It’s about a comfort level on both sides. I understand people that don’t see providers because of that but if a 25-50 THD is too much for them then I thank them and wish them best endeavors on their adventures.

[lustybustygina]

I gave back a 200$ deposit the other day . Why this guy just got on my last nerve with all his request and changing his time like 3 times in one day .. I just knew when he or would he show up I would be not myself and I can't fake it that I like you at this point ..  LOL

Not worth it ...

Edited August 28, 2021 by lustybustygina

[Naomi-0172]

Hi Everyone!  Seems this has been a debated topic!!  I did start requiring deposit for longer appointments $25 and all the flaky people disappeared.  Anyone with reviews and references almost all came through the others were apologetic and communicated. I also told the ones that I didn’t require a deposit that it was $100 cancellation fee especially during peak times.   I had two who I asked to pay the cancellation to do so.  Afterward, I told them that the cancellation fee would be counted toward next meeting if they rescheduled.  I did that because I thought it was the right thing to do and we have had super positive interactions and communication even though we haven’t met yet and are looking forward to when we do!   I agree I know we all go through it on both sides lots of BS.  I tend to say what I think when I m angry, but clearly there is some value and communication that has benefited everyone.  Thank you TOB 

[Hobby Hobbit -Banned]

On 8/15/2021 at 0:33 AM, sparkey600 said:

I'm sure you are making friends galore here. Happy hunting. You will need it. 

What?? I for one have never had to deal with a cancelation fee. Over 26 plus years. Sometimes in  life things happen, I get that. And do 99.99 percent of providers here also.... Do a good deed, if you can't make the date, tell them as soon as you know things on your end turned into a "sit show" explain what's going on, we all have lives after all, and reschedule a good time to meet and have a little fun. So simple. Just communicate and I bet things for you will be A-OK, no black list no arguing with someone you want to be intermate with....Just be upfront and communicate. We all want that after all! It will work out for you if you just be honest and communicate.

When it comes to the OP, it seems we're saying the same thing @sparkey600, except minus the bullshit for me tyvm.

With a lot more positive experiences than my TOB references attest to, and there are a few, if a provider doesn't want to see me because, while respectful and gentlemanly when allowed, I'm in this for me not her then, pffft!

Edited September 9, 2021 by Hobby Hobbit

[Marilyn Desire]

On 7/20/2021 at 11:59 AM, Leyla Scott said:

Good morning lovely gentlemen,

I am at my wit’s end with last minute or same day cancellations recently along with gentlemen pulling the “No Call No Show”.  

 

OMG right!! Just had this happen again today, I even double checked the person would be here like an hour before the appointment and they said yes they may even be early. Then guess what 20 minutes before the appt the douche cancels!! 

[Marilyn Desire]

On 7/28/2021 at 8:54 PM, Audrey Astor said:

I will not visit with folks that have an outstanding balance with another provider. It’s just not cool. 

Absolutely! 

[average1]

On 9/10/2021 at 3:40 PM, Marilyn Desire said:

OMG right!! Just had this happen again today, I even double checked the person would be here like an hour before the appointment and they said yes they may even be early. Then guess what 20 minutes before the appt the douche cancels!! 

So sorry this happened to you.  I know it happens to a number of ladies which is sad.  In my years in the hobby, I have only had to cancel a few times.  Twice for being sick and I let each lady know in advance and we rescheduled (and had a great time, both times).  Once for car overheating and rescheduled (and had a great time).  And once for cutting myself while shaving.  I let her know, went over to her place and paid for the session to honor her time.  We rescheduled and had a wonderful time.

On the flip side, I have had ladies cancel due to illness and they let me know.  No big deal and we rescheduled.  Only been ghosted one time.  I've been so lucky and am grateful for the ladies on TOB.  Research and doing my best to be clear and open in my communication has worked for me.

[Todoesprivado]

As always, any relevant discussion on this forum end up becoming extremely biased and one person or smaller group of participants end up getting the worst of it.

Just a few things to note, in an effort to cut the bs:

- Not all providers have clear/accesible cancellation policies. Some don’t even have a website for gods sake. Yet the expectation seems to be that clients adhere to these policies consistently.

- Not all providers are impacted the same with NCNS. I assume if you are low volume and only see 1 person a day and he NCNS then you are losing 100% of your income vs a provider that has several sessions per day and may only lose 20-25% of the income that day. I would expect a cancellation policy should take that into consideration.

- No offense to anyone, but the people (on both sides) that post on these forums are not a good representation of how the hobby is in real life. Johns are always loving, caring, supportive and they follow instructions so well. Ladies are always  on time, responsive, they never book back to back and are always on time. 

As a client, I’ve lost count on how many times I have been cancelled (only a few times I’ve been NCNS), how many times I’ve waited way pass the scheduled appointment and how many times I’ve encountered a person on the other side just not ‘present’ for that moment that was so important to me.

I’m not coming in defense of the hobbit, but I think is unfair to condemn someone for failing to adhere to a policy that was not clearly stipulated when there is absolutely no consistency across the broader population of providers.

[BadBoy]

[Guest]

Well, it would appear this discussion might continue. This last post made me ponder for a moment. I wish I worked a business in which my customers paid me not to do business! Where do I go for that? I’m ready! Sign me up! Put me in Coach. I’m ready to play!

[sb1212]

38 minutes ago, LightningP said:

Well, it would appear this discussion might continue. This last post made me ponder for a moment. I wish I worked a business in which my customers paid me not to do business! Where do I go for that? I’m ready! Sign me up! Put me in Coach. I’m ready to play!

I have never been asked for a deposit. If I were, I would politely decline and move on. As such, I am not a subject matter expert.  That said, I dont look at a deposit as "paying to not do business". I look at it like paying for an option. If you exercise your option you receive your product/service and pay the balance. If you decline your option you lose your option payment. 

[sparkey600]

On 9/9/2021 at 3:43 PM, Hobby Hobbit said:

When it comes to the OP, it seems we're saying the same thing @sparkey600, except minus the bullshit for me tyvm.

With a lot more positive experiences than my TOB references attest to, and there are a few, if a provider doesn't want to see me because, while respectful and gentlemanly when allowed, I'm in this for me not her then, pffft!

Nope, sorry it doesnt't "sound" Like we are saying the same thing at all! Guess AGAIN!!

[Audrey Astor]

On 9/13/2021 at 9:08 PM, sb1212 said:

I have never been asked for a deposit. If I were, I would politely decline and move on. As such, I am not a subject matter expert.  That said, I dont look at a deposit as "paying to not do business". I look at it like paying for an option. If you exercise your option you receive your product/service and pay the balance. If you decline your option you lose your option payment. 

I can totally understand your point, and can appreciate your position. Thank the douche nozzles that play games. It’s unfortunate, aggravating, definitely impedes on losses vs profits. 
 

As someone who participated in the forums often, do you have some ideas on how we should handle this disturbing trend? I’m being serious, and am often to reviewing other options.

[Caressa Duval]

1 hour ago, Audrey Astor said:

I can totally understand your point, and can appreciate your position. Thank the douche nozzles that play games. It’s unfortunate, aggravating, definitely impedes on losses vs profits. 
 

As someone who participated in the forums often, do you have some ideas on how we should handle this disturbing trend? I’m being serious, and am often to reviewing other options.

Sadly this is not a trust venue anymore, neither is any other site any better. We used to be able to trust some things. The  people being assaulted in any public service career is atonding right now .  Why abuse the people you claim to appreciate the most, and then abuse their simple and modest request for cancellation fees or deposits. If You do your homework,  NO respectable provider would jeopardize your information to anyone.  SO Stop blaming the woman. OMG I can't have a paper trail to LE. Stop whining and pick a trusted provider that would NEVER allow a paper trail!

Edited September 17, 2021 by Caressa Duval

[Maclovin]

I know that I'll catch shit for this, but on a recent trip to Denver, 75% of the providers flaked on me. These were all established providers. Several engagements were multi-hour, four- figure programs. I'm extremely punctual, show up squeaky clean, and tend to overpay as a sign of gratitude for an exceptional experience.

It might be a post COVID stress thing, but it never would happen on the board, and in the city that we came from. The lack of respect for one another seems to cut both ways.

[Caressa Duval]

27 minutes ago, Maclovin said:

I know that I'll catch shit for this, but on a recent trip to Denver, 75% of the providers flaked on me. These were all established providers. Several engagements were multi-hour, four- figure programs. I'm extremely punctual, show up squeaky clean, and tend to overpay as a sign of gratitude for an exceptional experience.

It might be a post COVID stress thing, but it never would happen on the board, and in the city that we came from. The lack of respect for one another seems to cut both ways.

I think most women want proper communication. Cell phone coverage, texting capability, email address any of these things help to have. I had only 1 client visiting Denver recently that cancelled , and flaked out. So, I know how you feel.

[lustybustygina]

I only tour and have never flaked on any set appts , Heck one time I work with food poisoning  and just kept on working , 

after all im in a hotel paying for a room 3-4 nights ads and so much more ..

Just back from Chicago and had 3 NS even after getting a deposit ..

So it happens on both ends . Have only missed 2 tours due to COVID being so high when it first started !

 

[zman999]

21 hours ago, Audrey Astor said:

I can totally understand your point, and can appreciate your position. Thank the douche nozzles that play games. It’s unfortunate, aggravating, definitely impedes on losses vs profits. 
 

As someone who participated in the forums often, do you have some ideas on how we should handle this disturbing trend? I’m being serious, and am often to reviewing other options.

It's nice to see folks want to work on it.  I see it from both sides getting progressively worse right now and am not sure what the solution is tbh. 

Personally when I message ladies I'm super friendly, use her preference for communication is she has one, if she doesn't I'll pm and text, and send all info to begin the prescreen process.  Even with all this I'm in the same camp as maclovin, I'm lucky if I get a 50% response rate. And after replies start even then, get ghosted quite a bit.  So let's call it a 25-45% success rate to even get a reply and get through prescreen, nevermind get a date. 

Also probably going to get crap for this but the traveling ladies seem to be doing better with replies than the locals.  Not sure why but perhaps the local guys are being extreme dbags so the ladies have to weed through more crap?  Idk. 

For these reasons, I think I'm going to quit trying to find new locals and just stick with ones I've seen previously or traveling ladies for now.  I really do hope things get better though, this community has been pretty darn cool.  Oh and I've only ever cancelled one time and it was 24-36h in advance because I was not going to be getting out of work like I previously thought I would. 

Edited September 17, 2021 by zman999