Price increase.

[scottiep33]

I'm noticing that several providers have slowly creeped up on their donations. I'm definitely not one to tell anyone their worth, but how is it that the new $300 is now $400, or $500, now I'm seeing a lot of $600 providers. I guess the pros of the price change hopefully means providers are taking on less clients, so a lighter volume is something I find beneficial.  One of the cons is that I will probably do this hobby lesser, and be a lot more selective about who I spend my time with.

I used to enjoy giving new providers a try, knowing that potentially I could lose $200/ $250. Now I'm like "no new friends ", but a lot of the pre-covid providers have vanished. I think overall this donation increase will result in less money spent overall. It's a lot easier to explain to the significant other what a $300 withdrawal was for vs a $600 dollar withdrawal.  I do this hobby because I don't wanna deal with the having a "side chick", but now the "side chick" option is looking a more tempting, and less expensive.  Hell, if I give the side chick $600 per month, I'm probably gonna be able to smash anytime I want. Lol

[Hunter VanDyke]

If this true...Side chics, you really need to step up your game.  600 would need a an extra 0 on the end of it for unlimited smashing.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Hunter VanDyke

[scottiep33]

40 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

If this true...Side chics, you really need to step up your game.  600 would need a an extra 0 on the end of it for unlimited smashing.

Lol, of course I haven't tested the side chic theory. 

[ilovewomen]

We just had a similar thread on the 10th on this topic.

I believe there are still plenty of ladies in $300 donation range.

As far as a lot of the pre-covid providers vanishing, they were probably more of the newbie type of lady.  The core TOB ladies are still here.

[frostyjack]

2 hours ago, scottiep33 said:

It's a lot easier to explain to the significant other what a $300 withdrawal was for vs a $600 dollar withdrawal.

Pro tip: Don't withdraw the amount you plan on spending for a donation all at once, and don't withdraw it anywhere near when you plan on spending it. Pull $100 hear, a $100 there, maybe you pull out $300 for spending money and a $100 finds its way into your donation stash. Get creative. Some electronic/paper trails we can't avoid, but we can make it less obvious. 

And a word of warning: complaining about a provider's donation rate, regardless of the context, is never going to make you friends. This isn't a market made up of manufactured goods where there is a set price, a person's self worth goes into that number. If it's more than you're willing to pay, shop elsewhere.

Edited August 24, 2020 by frostyjack

[Hunter VanDyke]

48 minutes ago, scottiep33 said:

Lol, of course I haven't tested the side chic theory. 

Please, I'm dying to know how this goes. 🙏😋

Even though many ladies have raised their rates for a variety of reasons (mine was to see less clients and keep the same income), there are still many wonderful ladies in the 250 range, no?  I started very low 150 an hour and gradually increased as I paid my dues so to speak.  I would think there would be a steady stream of ladies just starting out, or coming back after a break that would slide in and fill that void.  I mean if there is a market for ladies in the 250 range, I can't imagine there aren't quality providers willing to capitalize on that.  Are you finding that's not the case?

[scottiep33]

4 hours ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

Please, I'm dying to know how this goes. 🙏😋

Even though many ladies have raised their rates for a variety of reasons (mine was to see less clients and keep the same income), there are still many wonderful ladies in the 250 range, no?  I started very low 150 an hour and gradually increased as I paid my dues so to speak.  I would think there would be a steady stream of ladies just starting out, or coming back after a break that would slide in and fill that void.  I mean if there is a market for ladies in the 250 range, I can't imagine there aren't quality providers willing to capitalize on that.  Are you finding that's not the case?

I have not found any quality in the $250 range at all. It's definitely worth spending more to get better quality providers. The ladies just starting out seem to be asking for established well known provider donations instead of working their way up and building a reputation.  The side chic reference was just a joke. Side chicks are a bad idea in general because all side chicks are looking to be in the starting lineup. Lol

Please, note that I'm not saying an increase in donations is bad, just making an observation, and giving a some feedback from a clients perspective. For those who have increased to have less clients, I find this beneficial for both parties. Lower clientele feels good, because visits are normally spaced out so when I arrive and everything is fresh and clean I feel like I'm the only one seen that day. 

 

4 hours ago, frostyjack said:

Pro tip: Don't withdraw the amount you plan on spending for a donation all at once, and don't withdraw it anywhere near when you plan on spending it. Pull $100 hear, a $100 there, maybe you pull out $300 for spending money and a $100 finds its way into your donation stash. Get creative. Some electronic/paper trails we can't avoid, but we can make it less obvious. 

And a word of warning: complaining about a provider's donation rate, regardless of the context, is never going to make you friends. This isn't a market made up of manufactured goods where there is a set price, a person's self worth goes into that number. If it's more than you're willing to pay, shop elsewhere.

A lot of assumptions made, but I get what you're saying.  This post wasn't targeted at anyone, nor was I complaining. If someone is offended by anything said, it is their choice to be offended. I definitely won't bite my tongue based on what someone might feel, or based on possibly being denied service because of a chat topic. I'm actually ok with whatever the donation is, if its someone i wanna spend time with. I was just pointing out that for some providers the increase will cut down on clients because most clients wanna know they're getting quality, so the established providers will see an increase, and the less established providers might not see the clients who were willing to try them out. Of course this is only my prospective so I could be wrong, which is fine with me. Just making an observation, not saying whether someone's donations is too high. You're right everyone gets to decide their worth, and I would never try and negotiate a person's self worth. 

 

[frostyjack]

7 hours ago, scottiep33 said:

A lot of assumptions made, but I get what you're saying.  This post wasn't targeted at anyone, nor was I complaining. If someone is offended by anything said, it is their choice to be offended. I definitely won't bite my tongue based on what someone might feel, or based on possibly being denied service because of a chat topic. I'm actually ok with whatever the donation is, if its someone i wanna spend time with. I was just pointing out that for some providers the increase will cut down on clients because most clients wanna know they're getting quality, so the established providers will see an increase, and the less established providers might not see the clients who were willing to try them out. Of course this is only my prospective so I could be wrong, which is fine with me. Just making an observation, not saying whether someone's donations is too high. You're right everyone gets to decide their worth, and I would never try and negotiate a person's self worth.

That's all fair, I was just warning you, the topic of price is usually a sensitive one. There are a lot of pitfalls in that conversation, many of which you'll fall into unintentionally. Tread lightly my friend. 

[johnnydog]

Seller sets price, buyer chooses to pay or not. Whining is unattractive

[ilovewomen]

8 hours ago, scottiep33 said:

I have not found any quality in the $250 range at all. It's definitely worth spending more to get better quality providers. 

You obviously have not been doing your homework.  There are planets of established ladies that will knock your socks off that are in the $250-$300 range.

Just because you pay $500 does not mean you will meet a higher quality lady.

[scottiep33]

2 minutes ago, ilovewomen said:

You obviously have not been doing your homework.  There are planets of established ladies that will knock your socks off that are in the $250-$300 range.

Just because you pay $500 does not mean you will meet a higher quality lady.

Hey buddy, I'm not afraid of being enlighten. lol I know there has to be, I might need to search more / do my homework. I usually just wait for the ones I've been with before to come to town thats in that price range. Feel free to shoot me an inbox with any suggestions. 

[scottiep33]

13 minutes ago, johnnydog said:

Seller sets price, buyer chooses to pay or not. Whining is unattractive

Good thing I'm not trying to attract you....

[Alex Majors]

Yes prices have gone up.  A lot of things have gone up. The only thing I can see that could affect hobboyists, is references. If it makes one cut back, then keeping up with a fresh reference might be harder. There are no guaranttees the girl you saw last will still be around.  At least before, the couple extra meet ups would provide that cushion for screening.

[Bit Banger]

Hey, at least the gals haven’t taken their cue from the hospitality industry.

Portion size in restaurants seems to have shrunk slightly. As I travel back & forth to TX, hotel pools are closed and the ‘free’ breakfast (or even coffee) is no longer included.  Yet their prices have not been adjusted downward to compensate.

Would you like our fair ladies to adjust their services instead of their prices in these troubling times?  Not me.

[Mustang87]

On 8/24/2020 at 0:26 PM, frostyjack said:

Pro tip: Don't withdraw the amount you plan on spending for a donation all at once, and don't withdraw it anywhere near when you plan on spending it. Pull $100 hear, a $100 there, maybe you pull out $300 for spending money and a $100 finds its way into your donation stash. Get creative. Some electronic/paper trails we can't avoid, but we can make it less obvious. 

And a word of warning: complaining about a provider's donation rate, regardless of the context, is never going to make you friends. This isn't a market made up of manufactured goods where there is a set price, a person's self worth goes into that number. If it's more than you're willing to pay, shop elsewhere.

I was reading through this thread and was going to comment, then I realized this guy some almost exactly what I was going to say.  So, I guess I'm not needed here anymore.

[Admiral C]

Oh cool! Another rate thread! Well, if a lady can get any particular rate, then I guess it is not too high. Whatever the market will "bare" applies to most any business. As for the OP, if you are wanting 2-3 + bang days a week, financially, you probably need to dive into the ole dating pool. That CAN be spendy and has other "costs". but won't cost 3-6 grand a month either......unless you marry her or slip one past the Goalie. By and large, this gig is more or an expensive kind of past time and guys close to not being able to afford it get pushed out, or reduced by rate hikes and general economic downturns. Generally, it works as a regular thing for dudes who are loaded with money, older guys who don't "need it" as often, and for most of the rest, a stop gap between RW relationships. Just figure out which is you and search hard for a price point regular to fit that position.......and maybe hit up....wherever it is people go to do relationship meet up stuff. 

[sb1212]

Yup. ECON 101.  The market value of a service is equal to what someone is willing to pay.  Reducing rates increases the number of willing buyers (demand). Increasing rates has the opposite effect. The world's oldest profession is governed, in a financial sense, by very basic principles. We can debate all day whstvtates should be. The market will determine the rates.  Look at Hunter's comments- she increased rates to reduce demand with the expectation that demand  will at least  be at a level for her to have the same income.  I'll be interested in her report (not to mention some of her other offerings....😁). I.may need to change my handle to Econerd......

[coolhand luke]

Scottie I got what you were saying and did not find anything offensive you were just making an observation.  Rate threads are an incendiary topic and there are just some fires that you just don't want to start.

[tide32]

Ya know. I went to PET-CO and they raised the price of MERRICK dog treats 10%!! WTF!!!…. Looked on Amazon ant it was even more! 😢

I guess if I want to keep my dog happy, I’ll pay the extra 10%.🤔 Ain’t life a BITCH!🤪

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Admiral C said:

Oh cool! Another rate thread! Well, if a lady can get any particular rate, then I guess it is not too high. Whatever the market will "bare" applies to most any business. As for the OP, if you are wanting 2-3 + bang days a week, financially, you probably need to dive into the ole dating pool. That CAN be spendy and has other "costs". but won't cost 3-6 grand a month either......u

I am very very out of the scene but in the past you could get a college girl sugar baby for $800-$1200/mo and see her weekly, without clock watching, the msog issue, and typically a much wider menu than you get from an escort. And unlike a gf/wife you don't have to spend all your time with them, sleep overnight, etc - maintain your freedom and have time for other interests and activities. OTOH, you're going to be seeing just that one girl, so depending upon your desire for variety, it may or may not work well for you. I did it for years, it worked for me.

[Hunter VanDyke]

3 hours ago, lex7 said:

I am very very out of the scene but in the past you could get a college girl sugar baby for $800-$1200/mo and see her weekly, without clock watching, the msog issue, and typically a much wider menu than you get from an escort. And unlike a gf/wife you don't have to spend all your time with them, sleep overnight, etc - maintain your freedom and have time for other interests and activities. OTOH, you're going to be seeing just that one girl, so depending upon your desire for variety, it may or may not work well for you. I did it for years, it worked for me.

Enjoy your retirement 

[lustybustygina]

When you have The Right  Product you can charge what you feel you need to make it worth your time / hotel and all the other EXP she may have to put out  to make you feel at ease and safe .. 

[Audrey Astor]

On 8/25/2020 at 4:56 PM, sb1212 said:

Yup. ECON 101.  The market value of a service is equal to what someone is willing to pay.  Reducing rates increases the number of willing buyers (demand). Increasing rates has the opposite effect. The world's oldest profession is governed, in a financial sense, by very basic principles. We can debate all day whstvtates should be. The market will determine the rates.  Look at Hunter's comments- she increased rates to reduce demand with the expectation that demand  will at least  be at a level for her to have the same income.  I'll be interested in her report (not to mention some of her other offerings....😁). I.may need to change my handle to Econerd......

Ding ding ding—-winner winner chicken dinner

[Admiral C]

On 8/25/2020 at 4:56 PM, sb1212 said:

Yup. ECON 101.  The market value of a service is equal to what someone is willing to pay.  Reducing rates increases the number of willing buyers (demand). Increasing rates has the opposite effect. The world's oldest profession is governed, in a financial sense, by very basic principles. We can debate all day whstvtates should be. The market will determine the rates.  Look at Hunter's comments- she increased rates to reduce demand with the expectation that demand  will at least  be at a level for her to have the same income.  I'll be interested in her report (not to mention some of her other offerings....😁). I.may need to change my handle to Econerd......

Man...if we are not careful, pussy is going to show up on the New York Stock Exchange as a Commodity. Complete with Brokers buying and selling contracts for "Pussy Futures" .....I wonder what the symbol for THAT would be!?

 

[Bravo1]

I agree that a provider can charge whatever she feels is appropriate and works for her regarding attracting the number of hobbyists she is wanting.  If you have made an increase however and a previous client has reached out to you, IT IS YOUR RESPOSIBILITY to inform him very early in your new conversation that rates have gone up.  I recently experienced this with a provider I have seen before and had a positive experience with.  Arrived after SEVERAL texts back and forth and only after arriving at the location was I then made aware of a significant price increase.  AGAIN, I'm not questioning the price increase but waiting until I'm practically at the door to inform me is not good business practice.  The appointment did not happen due to this unknown rate increase, she was annoyed and I was frustrated.  Communication is key in every type of situation.  

[Phil-anderer]

On 8/26/2020 at 8:58 AM, lex7 said:

I am very very out of the scene but in the past you could get a college girl sugar baby for $800-$1200/mo and see her weekly, without clock watching, the msog issue, and typically a much wider menu than you get from an escort. And unlike a gf/wife you don't have to spend all your time with them, sleep overnight, etc - maintain your freedom and have time for other interests and activities. OTOH, you're going to be seeing just that one girl, so depending upon your desire for variety, it may or may not work well for you. I did it for years, it worked for me.

Uhhh, you're definitely out of the scene.  That's close to what I pay my housekeeper.  And he's not that hot.

[Hunter VanDyke]

23 hours ago, Phil-anderer said:

Uhhh, you're definitely out of the scene.  That's close to what I pay my housekeeper.  And he's not that hot.

Agreed.  A sugar daddy paying 200-300/wk?  Providers make that and more in an hour.  A sugar baby would need multiple sugar daddies at that rate, in which case they might as well make the switch. 

[johnnybgood]

On 8/28/2020 at 8:04 AM, Admiral C said:

Man...if we are not careful, pussy is going to show up on the New York Stock Exchange as a Commodity. Complete with Brokers buying and selling contracts for "Pussy Futures" .....I wonder what the symbol for THAT would be!?

 

I'd love to add that one to my stock portfolio!...🤣😂🤣

[lustybustygina]

 Not a college girl but a Real Sugar Baby  going to get like 6-10K a month / that being said one who is with a high roller Daddy who only wants her with him and his On call !

Edited August 31, 2020 by lustybustygina

[Alex Majors]

21 hours ago, lustybustygina said:

 Not a college girl but a Real Sugar Baby  going to get like 6-10K a month / that being said one who is with a high roller Daddy who only wants her with him and his On call !

I am sure there are some sugar daddys like that but they are as common as the hot sugar baby who really isn't after your money.  They have to make at least seven figures. Theses guys are good business men and most likely would negotiate a better rate.