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I can see why you would have assumed that a little fun might be included. You said you could not afford her rate as I am sure that you thought you could not afford her hourly rate to last all day and night but it was your mistake for not asking about extras. I can also see why because she allowed you to give her a massage while lying on the bed naked and all you two have ever done is to have sex. But if this was a vacay maybe she wanted to get away from work but neither of you made it clear what the expectations were since all you ever did together was have sex. Since she was a sex worker I also put some and maybe 75% of the blame on her for not making it clear that this was an outing with a friend and not a client. After all sex is her business and if she wanted a vacay from work she should have let it be known before hand. I have been on several "dates" like this. I did make it clear that it was not expected to be all inclusive. On one "date" that was noninclusive she asked me if I wanted a massage and she made it a fun filled time and I later tried to give her some money for the session but she refused and said she wanted to. On another "date" we made it noninclusive but had an agreement that if sex came up that she would charge me but at a reduced rate as it was a vacay for her as well and I paid for that part of it already. We did have intimacy and I did give her some money for her time and companionship. The point is that in the future you should always discuss what is expected if things pop up and not assume. ASSUME can make an ass out of u and me..

I was just reading an old thread about what do the guys who are on this site prefer ages 20' or 40's. I am going to propose the same topic to the ladies only. It would be nice to hear from the younger ladies in their 20's and early thirties and also from some of the older ladies. I am not sure many of the ladies will answer this for a variety of reasons esp.the business aspect of not trying to exclude anyone.

I agree. I think that as you age your perspective on sexual relationships change. Younger are PSE for the most part and the 20's ladies are perceived to be the ones just right for that. As we age I think a lot of us, but not all, are more into the human touch rather than Wham Bam. That is why a lot of reviews from us older gents frequently mention conversations they have with their providers. Older ladies are perceived to be the ones that provide those services and I agree. Not to hijack a thread but this is an old one. What do the ladies have to say about age. It would be nice to hear from some of the younger and also older providers and get their take. I think I will post this as a new topic.

Not really replying to Mr Right Stuff but he did get me thinking. thinking over my time in this hobby Have met many a lady but by definition ATF is all time favorite. Kind of like the GOAT. I think you would have to be very monogamous to pick just one and how could you unless you fall in true love. Thus I have a lot of favorites and a few do stand out over the others but there are not many I have met that I would I would not see again. The ones that do stand out over the others all have different reasons for being a favorite and each brings something different to the table. I think we all crave some variety. Have I hit the JACKPOT? There can be many jackpots just like going to Vegas you can keep playing until you hit it and it feels great but then again you are back at it trying to hit it again maybe at a different table. I have had a lot of winning hands and some losing hands but I have hit the jackpot several times. Yes I do believe that one knows when they have hit one of the proverbial jackpots but I keep playing. PS: I do not like the title of a monger for anyone. it really doesn't bother me personally as I know what kind of person I am and that is all that counts.

Sorry if this is a little long winded. Here is my take on relationships in this hobby. I know Elle Blake personally and she is pretty savvy. I talked with her while she was on vacation with her possible new s.o. she has had a very few s.o. over her life but she did like this guy when he treated her decently but it did not work out although she tried. something about a leopard doesn't change its spots. I have also been around for awhile and have dabbled into having a relationship (other than friends) with 2 providers. One I thought I was falling in love with but was really not in the mood for that at the time. I am fairly sure that the feeling was very mutual but I cut off the relationship as I was unsure if I was there and did not want to lead her on. I am fairly sure that I could handle her job but you never know until you are in it. The other was just the other way around. I wanted more and she was unsure as she somehow felt that our relationship would always be tainted because of how we met and that I would always think of her as a prostitute even though she had retired. (But I can assure you (but I could not convince her) that how we met would have any effect on our relationship. (forgive me for reminiscing) Yes I have heard about relationships that work out in this environment, but I believe they are few and far between. All relationships have hurdles but there may be more under these circumstances due to underlying cultural acceptability norms. Getting the point..... what I am trying to say is that you being a newbie now this is not the time nor place to find a romantic relationship. YOU ARE A BUSINESS CLIENT. So go slow and treat the ladies you meet with respect, but for now guard your heart. You never know though what will happen!

Every case is different. I have had several ladies reach out to me to refresh our acquaintance but not one I have never seen. In your case it is IFFY. If she is out of state and coming to your area then I would say that I do not find it unusual in that she is trying to get some bookings. If she resides in your area of travel and is contacting you I would say it is unusual but maybe she has now decided to try out this hobby. If she has no reviews it could be that she is active but does not want reviews. I do not think that LE would be actively soliciting as it is entrapment. I know several people in LE and they told me that and a bust in that case would be thrown out of court but probably wouldn't even get out of interrogation if you had any decent attorney. Good Luck deciding.

Here we go again. He has not given us his MO. Since he is so well disliked by some why do you continue to bait him. The best way to curb him is to not respond at all. If he gets 0 responses maybe that will quiet things for awhile. Just saying.

I have always been a dog person and had a mild intolerance to cats. I had two dogs and inherited a young cat. They tolerated one another. About 6 months ago I had to put down one dog who had cancer. My other dog just moped around and lost weight as she would not eat much. Suddenly the cat took over and began to be the best friend to my dog. They started sleeping together and the cat started going on our walks and neither has a leash. The cat would wait for the dog to get thru smelling whatever. I called it ass book and pee mail then the cat would then start walking again when the dog came. My dog now does not mope around and eats well and has regained all its weight. People often remark when seeing the two of them walking and even will honk their horn and wave when they see them out walking on the sidewalks. They even go together when we walk in the mountains or woods and the cat never leaves the dog behind.

I also remember all that has been said. I was there and left several of my buddies. I remember them even when it is not memorial day!!!!!!!!!!

To all Moms. you have provided for your family as well as this family. Thank You!

Hailey I feel for you losing two of your best friends. I have gone thru this myself and it ain't fun. I did not know Kira other than her presence on tob. As you know I did know Ryann. There is a song from a band called 'speaker wars" entitled "It ain't easy" brings a lot of thoughts to mind when faced with losing friends and also yourself getting old. Song is not for the faint of heart. Take Care my thoughts are with you and hoping their families find some peace as well.

Sorry you had a not so prince charming time. I know you fairly well and there is nothing to be rude to you about. You are one of the most kind, considerate and honest persons that I know and I have been around you enough to genuinely know.

Man "Ms.78" is really everything clothes horse, exquisite escort and knows all the right people. I bet she paid for that coat out of his pocket change. I am just a simple guy and those things mean nothing to me but maybe we all should take lessons from him . He knows everything about how to get along in this hobby /business. BUT......Whatever happened to Ms. 78 if he was so .......? ? LOL Mods. PLEASE It is time to stop this thread that is so off topic and is worthless to boot.

I know the lady who has written the book and she is now retired and living out of state. She gave me a copy and the book is mostly directed towards the ladies who decide to choose this profession and how to be successful. I also know Elle Blake very well and I am waiting for her book. It probably will be more about her experiences and not so much as advice.

some people are always bragging about how they are always right and the best at what they do. Sounds like a certain political candidate. I wonder why Ms "78" isn't with him anymore but I ask too much?. I think it is time to end this discussion line.