Posted February 23, 2018 I recently had a provider ask for the tip, before the session even started. Interesting approach, but without any history seemed really brazen. Just thought I'd ask your thoughts? Anyone else have this experience? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 Of course. It’s the dreaded UPSELL! The posted rate merely gets her to your door (or is the “agency fee”). Any services (sometimes promised but not delivered) require an additional fee from an al a carte menu. Run, Forest, Run! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 ^^^This. Making an ASSumption here re: funtimes50's latest review: not surprised that the tip thing happened. It appears that the agency involved has had several reviews/threads here for a different location (believe DTC/Englewood) where hot girls but no joy. So, girl knows will not be getting a tip after providing nothing, so, upsell from the start (these "managed" body rubbers generally give 40-60% of fee to the house, and are looking to maximize their intake). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 Have never been asked for a "tip" right up front, but have certainly had the upsell start right away, or shortly after the action begins. With an AMP you have to go in knowing the advertized rate will not be the final price, but in most of the sessions I go into these days I only carry the amount of the agreed to donation with me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 I ran into the situation NoCoGeezer mentioned and fell for it. First time for everything, I guess, at least where I didn’t know up front what I was getting. I have had FBSM providers upsell at the start like that but describing what I would get. I’m okay with that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 Providers shouldn't be asking for a tip period. Talk about tacky. 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Providers shouldn't be asking for a tip period. Talk about tacky. It seems to be the norm for FBSM where up-front donations are low. When I’ve run across the scenario elsewhere, it’s never come from more reputable providers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, synoches said: It seems to be the norm for FBSM where up-front donations are low. When I’ve run across the scenario elsewhere, it’s never come from more reputable providers. I'm just speaking from my own experience. When I first started in Denver, I advertised FBSM. I advertised low rates, much lower than I do now. Still, I never asked for a tip. I just find it tacky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 I agree with Hunter, this is in very poor taste. If the lady truly deserves a tip she will not need to ask for one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 There is a reason why upscale restaurants or large parties have gratuity included in the bill 🙃. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 I certainly don’t disagree with Hunter. I’m “fine” with up front upsells if I know what I’m getting and it’s all reasonable but it’s not like I wouldn’t prefer a classier lady like Hunter. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 When I go to an AMP and the door fee is $50-75, I expect a gratuity for services. I plan for my out-the-door cost to be comparable to an FS session with most YL advertising here and tip accordingly. If an FBSM is being advertised in the $125-175 range, I expect it to be all inclusive(hj/bj?). Anyone advertising $150+ and offering an al la carte menu will earn a repeat=no, recommend=no. I do understand & tolerate upcharges for fetish services or an upgrade from FBSM->FS. These are negotiated before the start of the session. ——— I recall an AMP a few years ago. As I got undressed I left my usual $160 tip on the table. But she wanted $200 for an HJ😮. I pulled all but $40 (she had gotten naked afterall), and laid face down on the table for a massage. She had a chat w/mamasan, then came back to give me a so-so massage. Needless to say, I did NOT repeat. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 These kinda things baffle me but they also don't....Like what in the bananas xD While tips are appreciated, they shouldn't really be expected nor really asked for and even more so NOT BEFORE THE APPOINTMENT STARTS....Just my opinion. *coughs* 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bit Banger said: When I go to an AMP and the door fee is $50-75, I expect a gratuity for services. I plan for my out-the-door cost to be comparable to an FS session with most YL advertising here and tip accordingly. If an FBSM is being advertised in the $125-175 range, I expect it to be all inclusive(hj/bj?). Anyone advertising $150+ and offering an al la carte menu will earn a repeat=no, recommend=no. I do understand & tolerate upcharges for fetish services or an upgrade from FBSM->FS. These are negotiated before the start of the session. ——— I recall an AMP a few years ago. As I got undressed I left my usual $160 tip on the table. But she wanted $200 for an HJ😮. I pulled all but $40 (she had gotten naked afterall), and laid face down on the table for a massage. She had a chat w/mamasan, then came back to give me a so-so massage. Needless to say, I did NOT repeat. This matches my expectations entirely. The upsells I’m understanding of are the +BJ or +FS variety. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, funtimes50 said: I recently had a provider ask for the tip, before the session even started. Interesting approach, but without any history seemed really brazen. Just thought I'd ask your thoughts? Anyone else have this experience? Rude in my opinion. Semi-professional. Send her back to the minor league 😎 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Bit Banger said: I recall an AMP a few years ago. As I got undressed I left my usual $160 tip on the table 160?? Holy mackerel, I assume that was on the FS end of the spectrum not just the normal happy ending. I tipped up front once, was a non-satisfactory up-sell. Never again. Edited February 23, 2018 by SensualAddict 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 All this discussion of tips reminds me: Do you know why a mohel charges so little for a circumcision? He keeps the tip. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, BadBoy said: All this discussion of tips reminds me: Do you know why a mohel charges so little for a circumcision? He keeps the tip. Ewww....now that's a tip you can keep. 😂😂😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, SensualAddict said: 160?? Holy mackerel, I assume that was on the FS end of the spectrum not just the normal happy ending. I tipped up front once, was a non-satisfactory up-sell. Never again. Yes, back when I frequented AMPs (SoWet days) the door fee was typically $60 and a $120-160 tip resulted in FS. This was on par with a typical FS escort session. The advantages were: walk-in, table shower, and an OK massage. I was seldom disappointed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 Bit you opted for the hour then, now I go and same results but $40.00 for a half hour. I have yet to get a fbsm that lasted longer then 15 minutes when I paid for 30 minutes, but oh well I have always left smiling 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) I just don't understand the upsell thing. Why not just make sure you write in plain English on a website exactly what you provide and for how much so there is no confusion, and then once they have screened confirm what they want so everyone knows what to expect when they get together? I think that is why us ladies sometimes get a million questions because a number of providers play this game with clients. Just stop! Take the time to find a place to put what you will do and for how much on there, screen, get appointments, and have fun! Tips you earn. If a lady asks upfront...shame on her! Work for your tip, ladies! xoxo, Samantha Sheppard Edited February 24, 2018 by SultryKitten 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Bit Banger said: Yes, back when I frequented AMPs (SoWet days) the door fee was typically $60 and a $120-160 tip resulted in FS. This was on par with a typical FS escort session. The advantages were: walk-in, table shower, and an OK massage. I was seldom disappointed. Those were the days. I would like the SoWet special please. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, boink36 said: Those were the days. I would like the SoWet special please. Yes, please 😜 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 Tip Up Front aka upselling equals leaving. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 3:01 PM, Hunter VanDyke said: Ewww....now that's a tip you can keep. 😂😂😂 In Morocco that "tip" is thrown into a Bris and whoever gets it in their bowl is considered to be going to have good luck all year....( My thinking is to make up for the very LOUSY luck they had that day) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 25, 2018 Maybe she was requested a different sort of tip... Benefit of the doubt... ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, xo_Josie_xo said: Maybe she was requested a different sort of tip... Benefit of the doubt... ? If he has a big head, the just the tip game is nice. I like the way your think girl! 👏👏👏 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 25, 2018 Personally I agree, asking for a tip is tacky indeed...It is a gratuity and if the provider doesnt like that fact then she should consider going to work somewhere else if she is not making what she thinks she deserves or maybe she needs to work on providing a better quality of service, then the tips would come on their own without the need to ask especially before you even had the opportunity to determine if she was worth the little extra...Thats just my opinion and it is some free advice so take it for what its worth if you otherwise it didnt cost anything and we all know what they say about opinions, everyone has them and most of them..... Have a great evening everyone and enjoy your weekend... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 25, 2018 If a lady is going to ask about a tip in advance, she should at least wait until you are tied up. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Admiral C said: If a lady is going to ask about a tip in advance, she should at least wait until you are tied up. 😂😂😂 wtf is wrong with you??? That happens! Smh... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites