Curious about thoughts from both Providers and Clients

[ReconBull]

So I really do not post or actually read a lot of these, too busy with work and I manage my time to see select providers that meet with certain things that i like and do not like just as we all do. But just curious here and i will give a scenario. So i responded to an ad by a somewhat reviewed provider (no names) who was intriguing to me and we established a time and she did some screening. She was from out of the state visiting. Appointment time came up and i arrived 20 minutes early but did not call until 10 prior to obtain room number............no response for 15 minutes. Called/texted again and received the information after another 5-10 minutes. Entered room and she was easily better than her pictures but came to the door in sweatpants and a hoodie and said hold on. Went into bathroom and stayed for 10 minutes [snip]. Once outside of the bathroom remained in sweatpants , no greeting other than hello and we honestly did nothing at all other than she talked for what she considered to be the rest of the 35 minutes on the schedule time. I was still polite and asked if I made her nervous for some reason and that i could go (tell you about me in a minute). She stated that she [snip] felt tired but actually asked if i could pay her (will continue at end).

I am a large guy around 6'4" 250, i am a former Marine, a combat vet with multiple tours, scars from wounds (but not horrible) I have eyes that have been called both kind and warming by some providers to piercing and always watching from others (use to call that the thousand yard stare in the military some have it others don't). But I am very respectful and polite, not a big talker until comfortable but always a sheepdog personality and make sure that the provider or anyone around me is protected in a sense. i am just as much about the provider having fun as myself. I actually have developed a good contact relationship with some of the providers just do to being considerate and kind to them.

Anyway, I did in fact leave the full donation with her even though in a general sense or in another scenario or business would have just told a business or service to suck it up and too bad. i left she texted later and i told her i was disappointed with the whole thing and then there was no further contact from her. Until recently after 5 months and she for some reason kept my number and said she would be back in town. I went over the whole scenario with her to see if she remembered, she did. Made a HUGE point of the disclaimer for time only to which i responded that I would love to have reconnected but was hesitant due to our last meeting..................Now I am the bad guy, literally got upset with me because i declined even though I said it very politely with her. She even mentioned that she saw that I reviewed honestly but respectfully and seemed I to be popular with some of the ones that I have seen. Kept saying for me to give her another chance.

Is this a case in which I should, should i ask for some manner of extended time (other favorites have done this when they had to cancel or something when schedule overlapped my time,  as i never ask for it they offered) or just bag it and say not a chance sweetie or do you think she should have offered something?

Would have loved to try again but could not get my mind around the last visit which was beyond a waste of time. Just want some input here

[jj254-1]

Hard call. I wouldn't. But that's just me. Sounds flakey and uninterested. Even if she follows through to what you expected that service probably won't be any better. You did enough already. Paid. Reviewed. My vote is just move on. 

[ReconBull]

Never got a chance to review as i was just joining TOB and could not get both setup before the 30 days, But it is what it is was curious about responses and appreciate it. In a sense i did exactly what you said. Was just really curious why my ph number was kept all this time and then call again to re connect in a sense. Was it an assumption that i was gullible and mistook being polite and respectful for nativity?  Curious either way

[Wendy Whitney]

12 hours ago, ReconBull said:

Would have loved to try again but could not get my mind around the last visit which was beyond a waste of time. Just want some input here

Run Forest, RUN!!!!

[ReconBull]

LOl a Movie quote LOVE it, but he was Army (no offense army people) I am not sure how to retreat never learned that ...........but i get the message Thanks

 

Edited June 22, 2016 by ReconBull
mistype and addition statement

[amcbl1]

Difficult to respond to this. I've had similar situations where the provider had other last second commitments or just felt out of it when I got there. Most promised to make up for the time and some even offered an extended time to be with them for the same amount of $. A couple flaked out on me and denied there was any sort of promise or commitment for the future.  Some of these gals that flaked out were well reviewed and some of the others that kept their promise were UTR types. So I guess its sort of joker's wild type of bet as to whether or not to see the provider.

This was several years back and none of these providers are still in the hobby or at least not around here, so any readers of this reply, please don't PM me as  to who they were.

[Guest]

Mr. Bull, I think you answered your own question.  Plus she threw you some attitude upon contacting you the second time. Don't be the fool who is soon parted from his money. Marines still have to run, so do that.

[gr8owl]

OP:

The only question i would have is whether you TRIED to do anything but listen to her talk.  Some ladies grab the wheel and steer the bus, others really need the john to move things along.

That aside, it seems pretty simple.  Did you show up on time, clean and polite and pay her fee?  Did you enjoy your time with her?  If the answers to those two questions are yes (good client) and no (did not enjoy) that should be the end of story.  In my opinion it was not even worth the time it took to write your post.  Move on, there are soooo many ladies that will make sure you leave grinning there is no reason to go back to one that was a major disappointment.  Sometimes two people just don't click, but if that was all it was it is unlikely to change.  Just move on.

ps: 5 frickin' months she waits?  Sounds like she had you filed under "easy mark."  Don't prove her right.  Oh, yeah, I said just move on, and you should, but ........... damn.  That is just wrong. As Wendy said RUN!

[ReconBull]

4 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said:

Mr. Bull, I think you answered your own question.  Plus she threw you some attitude upon contacting you the second time. Don't be the fool who is soon parted from his money. Marines still have to run, so do that.

“All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time”
– Lt Gen Lewis B. Chesty Puller, USMC

Just threw this in for fun

[2Big]

On 21.6.2016 at 4:05 PM, ReconBull said:

 

I am a large guy around 6'4" 250, i am a former Marine, a combat vet with multiple tours

...and yet you sound like a pussy with a giant wooden dildo stuck in your azz. Grow a pair, bro, and stop being a wet noodle.

[ReconBull]

Then there is always the 5th grade education guy that pipes in, difference is I can be articulate make a point and ask a question more involving the etiquette. Nice emote by the way (and supposedly i am the puss.................thought only my 10 yr old niece and gals did that)

 

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

There are SO many other Providers out there that would be willing to go to the moon for you! Best bet is to shop around a bit more. You sound like a great guy! Wishing you the best!

[Mustang87]

Am I reading this right?  You spent the full session with her, paid the full donation, and had not physical contact what so over?   You're asking if you should repeat?  I'd lean towards not repeating. 

[BigBaldBlk]

On 6/21/2016 at 8:05 AM, ReconBull said:

...So i responded to an ad by a somewhat reviewed provider (no names) who was intriguing to me and we established a time and she did some screening. She was from out of the state visiting. Appointment time came up and i arrived 20 minutes early but did not call until 10 prior to obtain room number............no response for 15 minutes. Called/texted again and received the information after another 5-10 minutes. Entered room and she was easily better than her pictures but came to the door in sweatpants and a hoodie and said hold on. Went into bathroom and stayed for 10 minutes [snip]. Once outside of the bathroom remained in sweatpants , STRIKE ONE no greeting other than hello and we honestly did nothing at all other than she talked for what she considered to be the rest of the 35 minutes on the schedule time.  STRIKE TWO I was still polite and asked if I made her nervous for some reason and that i could go (tell you about me in a minute). She stated that she [snip] felt tired but actually asked if i could pay her (will continue at end).  STRIKE THREE

.... i left she texted later and i told her i was disappointed with the whole thing and then there was no further contact from her.

...Would have loved to try again but could not get my mind around the last visit which was beyond a waste of time. Just want some input here

Since she was a somewhat reviewed touring provider, I understand giving her the benefit of the doubt as things should have progressed further.  It sounds like YOU DID EVERYTHING RIGHT, NOTHING WRONG!  The fact that she contacted you the next time she came back into town (to me) and says she remembers the last session, but no apology, seems she has no clue what happened or worse, doesn't care.  I said it in another thread but since she is reviewed, doesn't mean she's professional!

I think the three sexy ladies who answered are all correct.  They are all reviewed; and can't imagine any of these three doing to you (or any gent) what the touring provider did to you.  My input:  chalk it up to an expensive learning experience, tell her if she EVER contacts you again to lose your number and if you ever fall into this same situation again BCD, drop off a portion of the donation and leave! 

[Alex Joy]

Giving providers like this a second chance does nothing but encourage them to continue acting like this, and is an insult to the ladies who actually do their job very well. If she had been unattractive... what would you have done? Would you even be considering this for a second? What did she bring to the table other than being attractive?

[Bit Banger]

23 minutes ago, Alex Joy said:

Giving providers like this a second chance does nothing but encourage them to continue acting like this, and is an insult to the ladies who actually do their job very well. ...

Totally agree! Rewarding bad behavior only leads to more bad behavior. 

 

24 minutes ago, Alex Joy said:

... If she had been unattractive... what would you have done? Would you even be considering this for a second? What did she bring to the table other than being attractive?

Believe it or not, there is a section of clients (not me*) who value looks over service or personality. It strokes their egos to bed "beautiful" women, personality or skill be damned.

 

(*) Give me an escort with average looks & good skills any day! A great personality is a bonus!

[Guest]

ReconBull..Thank you for your sacrifices to America through your service in the Marine Corps.

My advice is simple really...Move on to the next provider and don't think twice about it. You got ripped-off, plain and simple. It happens to everyone. Learn from it and don't make the same mistake again. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Alex Joy said:

Giving providers like this a second chance does nothing but encourage them to continue acting like this, and is an insult to the ladies who actually do their job very well. If she had been unattractive... what would you have done? Would you even be considering this for a second? What did she bring to the table other than being attractive?

This is exactly correct! Reputations are built up and destroyed very quickly. Some of us have spent many years honing our skills in many different aspects of this business.  To have some girl come along and behave this way, gives the hard working ladies bad names. Who cares how hot she looks. Next time you run across this behavior look at her and say....SHHH TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES,  NO TALKING NOW!

Of course you could always follow Biggs baldBlack's advice and save the hassle😉

[Paul Pudenda]

I would have left with money in pocket as soon as she answered the door in sweatpants and a hoodie.  She does NOT deserve a second chance, and you deserve better.

[pfunk]

2 hours ago, Paul Pudenda said:

I would have left with money in pocket as soon as she answered the door in sweatpants and a hoodie.  She does NOT deserve a second chance, and you deserve better.

[Paul Pudenda]

22 minutes ago, pfunk said:

Magnificent conribution.  Slow day for you, eh?

Edited June 25, 2016 by Paul Pudenda

[pfunk]

14 hours ago, Paul Pudenda said:

Magnificent conribution.  Slow day for you, eh?

Anyone who uses sweat pants and a hoodie for a reason to walk away from an appointment, is acting rude, moronic, and foolish. She does not deserve a second chance, but the way she dressed had nothing to do with it. Cheers!

Edited June 26, 2016 by pfunk

[Paul Pudenda]

3 hours ago, pfunk said:

Anyone who uses sweat pants and a hoodie for a reason to walk away from an appointment, is acting rude, moronic, and foolish. She does not deserve a second chance, but the way she dressed had nothing to do with it. Cheers!

Ah, you are ever the white knight.  You have your standards, I have mine.  The way she was dressed has everything to do with it - and shows whether she puts any effort into her appointments.  If you chose to be foolish and moronic by staying, that's your privilege.  However, if she looks like the picture you posted, that might be different.  

[ReconBull]

In honesty I agree with both of you. It was not so much the dress attire so much as the lethargy that coincided with the dress attire. A women can rock a flannel shirt, sweat pants, jeans.........just about anything. the only reason i mentioned it is that the sweat suit (not like the picture above lol) also represented some manner of the entirety of the appointment from lateness and forward. I always show up clean and dressed (jeans and a nice shirt, not old ratty jeans and my sleeveless Harley shirt) Curious if i showed up at a incall for a first meeting wearing dirty jeans,  Harley flannel shirt with no sleeves and a skull cap how would I be viewed by the provider? First impressions are generally a indication on both sides. But i agree with both to some extent here, but in this case the clothing did in fact represent the attitude.

[JoDoe27]

31 minutes ago, ReconBull said:

In honesty I agree with both of you. It was not so much the dress attire so much as the lethargy that coincided with the dress attire. A women can rock a flannel shirt, sweat pants, jeans.........just about anything. the only reason i mentioned it is that the sweat suit (not like the picture above lol) also represented some manner of the entirety of the appointment from lateness and forward. I always show up clean and dressed (jeans and a nice shirt, not old ratty jeans and my sleeveless Harley shirt) Curious if i showed up at a incall for a first meeting wearing dirty jeans,  Harley flannel shirt with no sleeves and a skull cap how would I be viewed by the provider? First impressions are generally a indication on both sides. But i agree with both to some extent here, but in this case the clothing did in fact represent the attitude.

There's an entire thread dedicated to appearance right now. 

[Paul Pudenda]

42 minutes ago, ReconBull said:

In honesty I agree with both of you. It was not so much the dress attire so much as the lethargy that coincided with the dress attire. A women can rock a flannel shirt, sweat pants, jeans.........just about anything. the only reason i mentioned it is that the sweat suit (not like the picture above lol) also represented some manner of the entirety of the appointment from lateness and forward. I always show up clean and dressed (jeans and a nice shirt, not old ratty jeans and my sleeveless Harley shirt) Curious if i showed up at a incall for a first meeting wearing dirty jeans,  Harley flannel shirt with no sleeves and a skull cap how would I be viewed by the provider? First impressions are generally a indication on both sides. But i agree with both to some extent here, but in this case the clothing did in fact represent the attitude.

This is probably the best post in this thread.

[Cecilia]

On 06/21/2016 at 8:16 PM, ReconBull said:

"Was it an assumption that i was gullible and mistook being polite and respectful for nativity?"

Absolutey!

Edited June 26, 2016 by Cecilia
blonde moment

[pitbull]

I think it's lucky you did not get to post a review. The fact that she kept your phone number and possibly your screening info -- she could have been one of the dreaded BSC providers that could make your life hell -- rare but no doubt to be feared. 

[Guest]

I'm not sure what input you are looking for. Did she not give you enough input already?   Needing input tells me you are only looking at one side of the coin and ignoring the other side.

I once saw a young provider who surprised me by opening up about some of the stories she and her provider friends shared with each other, similar to how men tell each other fishing stories of catching one "this big". It didnt start out as a competition or anything, but one story led to another about how one of them got a guy that spent a lot of $ for 3 hrs or so and only ended up talking and hand holding.  Then another story about how one of them only had to pee on the guy in the tub and that was it..

Maximizing benefits while minimizing the cost. The American way. And I'm definitely not saying this is exclusive to providers, or that all providers are like this.  Someone I work with wants to find a house he can turn into a duplex so he can get someone else to pay his entire mortgage.  There are many more examples of this attitude that go on in life.  (And to throw a wrench into the works maybe she was truly timid with you because she was smitten or something, but how much are you willing to bet on it)

Why are you pondering feeding your apparent disappointment?   And if she got upset with you what is it that got you pondering running deeper into that emotional mine field ?  What are you willing to pay and what are you hoping to gain? And will you feel it was a fair trade a year later?

 

[ajot]

Use it as a learning experience. She wasted your time to get money for nothing. And she absolutely knew what she was doing, which is certainly why she kept your number. She probably thought she could get more of the same next time. There's no reason to get disappointed and taken again!