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NoCoDiscreet

Outcall Fails

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Hello All,

I typically am not in a position to do outcall meetings, in fact I've never successfully had one but have tried twice now. The first was while I was traveling for work. I thought I could have a lovely lady visit me in my room. We spoke on the phone the day of the appointment, I told her the hotel I was staying at. She asked me for the room number, I said I would provide that closer to the meeting time. She seemed to be taken back by the response. An hour or so later she sent me an email cancelling our appointment because she fell down and hurt herself. Maybe that was legit, maybe not, either way was my plan not to give her my room number until close to the appointment odd? I was mimicking what typically happens when I go to an incall; I don't get the full address until right before the meeting.

The second failed attempt was going to be an outcall to my home. I live in a typical suburban neighborhood and wanted to be as discreet as possible. Having a provider walk up to my house would have thrown up major red flags so I came up with a plan. I would pick her up at a location close to my home, pull straight into the garage and we would be all good. I have dark tint on my windows so nobody would have seen her. I laid this plan out to her in an email and received a quick response stating this was a "highly unusual" request and that I should not contact her again. She blocked me on P411 and probably my email as well. I respect her request and will not try to contact her.

Her response gave me an odd feeling. Obviously she doesn't know me like I know me. I'm not sure what creepy situation my email concocted in her head but it made me wonder, is this truly a 'highly unusual' request? In my mind it seems like it would be rather normal to avoid nosy neighbors.

Thanks for any responses,

Noco

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The second fail I understand. The idea of picking her up at another location, drive to to your house in a car with tinted windows and pull directly into your garage, closing the door behind--might look like the way someone would plan things if they didn't want any witnesses. Maybe just like her walk to your front door wearing jeans and a sweat shirt.  For the first one, I don't see the big problem with withholding the room number until she arrives.  That is typically how it is done when the roles are reversed.  If she had property screened you and got your request on P411, that request does not seem like a deal-breaker. There must have been something else that scared her off. 

I have had two successful outcalls in my time, but not stick completly to incalls.

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As for your first try,she obviously panicked for no reason.Will bet that she doesn't give out her room number until her client arrives at a hotel she is entertaining at.

As for your second try....I actually had THE best outcall time of my life with a lady that asked me to pick her at a nearby bust stop and then bring her back to it. (yes,in my suburban neighborhood.)

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When I go to someones home or even a hotel, I prefer to dress as I normally would... like a secretary or real estate agent. Sometimes I will even carry a clipboard to a home for this reason, pretend acting!... So hopefully the neighbors think Im soliciting you for another purpose completely lol! Look like a lady and be treated like a lady...xoxo

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2 hours ago, Mustang87 said:

The second fail I understand. The idea of picking her up at another location, drive to to your house in a car with tinted windows and pull directly into your garage, closing the door behind--might look like the way someone would plan things if they didn't want any witnesses.

I can understand how it sounds like the start of a bad news story to her, but isn't every meeting tinted with a bit of risk? If a client really wanted to do something terrible it could happen at any meeting place. Her reaction of blocking me and cutting off all communication was the most surprising considering I placed the request through P411 and have a good amount of OKs.

49 minutes ago, Sexy Francesca said:

When I go to someones home or even a hotel, I prefer to dress as I normally would... like a secretary or real estate agent. Sometimes I will even carry a clipboard to a home for this reason, pretend acting!... So hopefully the neighbors think Im soliciting you for another purpose completely lol! Look like a lady and be treated like a lady...xoxo

At previous residences where I didn't know my neighbors very well I would have considered this but at my current home I am pretty close with all of my neighbors so the risk was too high for me.

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If you're married and entertaining in your home, you need to have your head examined. Additionally, It's way out of my comfort zone to meet someone for the first time at my residence.  Otherwise, let r rip!  My AARP Card has its own AARP membership.  What in the world am I worried about?  Personally, I hope my neighbors think the absolute worst and have jealous fits of speculation all night long. 

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47 minutes ago, NoCoDiscreet said:

I can understand how it sounds like the start of a bad news story to her, but isn't every meeting tinted with a bit of risk? If a client really wanted to do something terrible it could happen at any meeting place. Her reaction of blocking me and cutting off all communication was the most surprising considering I placed the request through P411 and have a good amount of OKs.

At previous residences where I didn't know my neighbors very well I would have considered this but at my current home I am pretty close with all of my neighbors so the risk was too high for me.

I can understand your reasoning, BUT um, us ladies deal with creepy dudes a lot so your request is weird. Even if it was through P411, I would have declined the outcall. If you know your neighbors that well, and it is too high risk for you then you go to the lady. Don't be expecting us ladies to follow risks that sound pretty similar to a "serial killer"scenario just because you say you're an okay dude. If you meet a lady a few times and you two get to know each other well(in a location that makes her feel safe) then maybe you can bring up sneaking her in in a manner that doesn't tip off your "all-knowing" neighbors.

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Samantha Sheppard

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The second attempt I have personally done many times, BUT I had met them previously a few times so there was trust built. But it’s not unheard of. Next time, see a lady at her place and then ask her if she’s comfortable with it.

 

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2 hours ago, NoCoDiscreet said:

 

At previous residences where I didn't know my neighbors very well I would have considered this but at my current home I am pretty close with all of my neighbors so the risk was too high for me.

its not like she is wearing a sign saying im a hooker, so many paranoid people these days!

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1 hour ago, Happymon said:

... My AARP Card has its own AARP membership.  What in the world am I worried about?  ...

Took me a moment to translate that. Day-um!

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I can understand the 2nd being uncomfortable for the lady, but Melissa has the best idea meet the lady 1st build some rapport, and go from there

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7 hours ago, NoCoDiscreet said:

Hello All,

I typically am not in a position to do outcall meetings, in fact I've never successfully had one but have tried twice now. The first was while I was traveling for work. I thought I could have a lovely lady visit me in my room. We spoke on the phone the day of the appointment, I told her the hotel I was staying at. She asked me for the room number, I said I would provide that closer to the meeting time. She seemed to be taken back by the response. An hour or so later she sent me an email cancelling our appointment because she fell down and hurt herself. Maybe that was legit, maybe not, either way was my plan not to give her my room number until close to the appointment odd?

A common method of verification for outcalls is to call the hotel room to make sure you are actually there 😉 

As for the second request, I agree with Sam and Melissa, there would be no way in heck I would do that without meeting you first 😉 

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I think the ladies did a great job of answering your questions, but I want to fire a question back to you:

If you have something at risk if someone sees an attractive young lady come to your home for exactly 60 minutes and then leave, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCHEDULING AN OUTCALL WITH HER AT YOUR HOME?

It has been said many a time:  "Hey you two, get a room."

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20 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

As for your first try,she obviously panicked for no reason.Will bet that she doesn't give out her room number until her client arrives at a hotel she is entertaining at.

As for your second try....I actually had THE best outcall time of my life with a lady that asked me to pick her at a nearby bus stop and then bring her back to it. (yes,in my suburban neighborhood.)

   I should clarify  about the second lady. Her drivers license was suspended and she went to all of her outcalls by bus vs having a driver or paying tons for taxi. She went to the wrong bus stop and asked me to come get her vs wait an hour for the next one. Nice gal, we became real life friends and remain so today,long after her retirement. ( not a streetwalker,she ran ads in the oyster )

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22 hours ago, NoCoDiscreet said:

Hello All,

I typically am not in a position to do outcall meetings, in fact I've never successfully had one but have tried twice now. The first was while I was traveling for work. I thought I could have a lovely lady visit me in my room. We spoke on the phone the day of the appointment, I told her the hotel I was staying at. She asked me for the room number, I said I would provide that closer to the meeting time. She seemed to be taken back by the response. An hour or so later she sent me an email cancelling our appointment because she fell down and hurt herself. Maybe that was legit, maybe not, either way was my plan not to give her my room number until close to the appointment odd? I was mimicking what typically happens when I go to an incall; I don't get the full address until right before the meeting.

The second failed attempt was going to be an outcall to my home. I live in a typical suburban neighborhood and wanted to be as discreet as possible. Having a provider walk up to my house would have thrown up major red flags so I came up with a plan. I would pick her up at a location close to my home, pull straight into the garage and we would be all good. I have dark tint on my windows so nobody would have seen her. I laid this plan out to her in an email and received a quick response stating this was a "highly unusual" request and that I should not contact her again. She blocked me on P411 and probably my email as well. I respect her request and will not try to contact her.

Her response gave me an odd feeling. Obviously she doesn't know me like I know me. I'm not sure what creepy situation my email concocted in her head but it made me wonder, is this truly a 'highly unusual' request? In my mind it seems like it would be rather normal to avoid nosy neighbors.

Thanks for any responses,

Noco

On the first - a provider's need to protect location is MUCH different from a client's need, in both number of requests and potential hazards.  To expect exact same process ignores these differences.  I would not hesitate to give specific info to lady same day, and have day before for that matter.  Refusing to on day of appointment just makes you sound like another prankster sending her to a non-existent address or some other form of time waster.

On the second - yeah that is just creepy to ask.  Most experienced ladies are going to have a driver in near vicinity, have a friend know their location for out call and a "check in time" to call them, etc.  Asking to pick them up and whisk them away to  an unspecified location and then try to hide her presence from the neighbors, etc. and potentially not even know where she is herself just sounds like an abduction.  Small wonder she bolted.

I have had more than one lady over to personal residence - and one many times.  None of the neighbor's frickin' business and nobody knows what goes on behind closed front door except she and I and neither is blabbing.  If it gets neighbors noses bent - I laugh my ass off.  If you fear your "friends" that are neighbors will figure out what is going on and it will cause you issues or damage friendship - don't host.  If my neighbors figure out what is going on - fuck 'em - who cares? (One might ask for a phone number and referral, but .......... won't get it)

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18 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said:

The second attempt I have personally done many times, BUT I had met them previously a few times so there was trust built. But it’s not unheard of. Next time, see a lady at her place and then ask her if she’s comfortable with it.

 

She doesn't have her own incall and would have been spending extra money to book a room, I thought I'd help her out and host.
I'm clearly naive to what D-Bags out there are doing and what you ladies may have experienced, I have no ill intentions and thought it seemed reasonable.

15 hours ago, BadBoy said:

If you have something at risk if someone sees an attractive young lady come to your home for exactly 60 minutes and then leave, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SCHEDULING AN OUTCALL WITH HER AT YOUR HOME?

Um, are you OK? What's with the yelling? I'm sure you could have gotten your point across in a more constructive manner.

 

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The second scenario sounds sketchy to me.  

Maybe she wanted to call the hotel desk and ask to be connected to your room for screening purposes?? 

Hope you have better encounters ahead!

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OK, I'll try again, without the fourth cup of coffee: 

Kind sir, if you have something to lose in this sporting endeavor, you need to be doubly cautious.  For example, if there could be negative consequences if someone sees an escort going into your typical suburban home for an hour, just don't do it.  Don't try to figure out a way to get away with it, because the best laid plans of mice and men do often go astray, due to the myriad of things that can go wrong (one of which you just discovered).  Of course, you can have a differing opinion, but that is my hard-earned advice, kind sir.

Better?

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47 minutes ago, Laci French said:

The second scenario sounds sketchy to me.  

Maybe she wanted to call the hotel desk and ask to be connected to your room for screening purposes?? 

Hope you have better encounters ahead!

The second scenario is very sketchy unless you big know each other.

Many, many moons ago, while traveling, I called a lady and asked her to come to my room. She asked for my room number and I asked her why and she told me it was so she could call the front desk and verify me.

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Both options have their own challenges. Have you considered a hybrid solution?  E.g. if/when you find someone you connect with maybe ask them over but until then keep to the incall. 

If I remember correctly you’re up north making incall more problematic. You’ve demonstrated creativity but maybe for the wrong application. Apply that to how you can meet providers initial expectations.  After you’re both more comfortable maybe creative arrangements will be more pailiable?

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I am slowly shedding my noobie skin, but I have learned this, a first encounter outcall is very scary for a lady. I really wanted to have a particular provider over because I had the run of my place when my housemates were all out of town. What I saw as opportunity wasn't looked at in the same light. There are always two sides to the story and with it, at least two perspectives. The lady and I honestly discussed it after the time had passed and I was enlightened far beyond my self centered tunnel vision. I hope to see her at a later time, in a manner in which she is comfortable. It should be a safe and mutual set up, and delivery/arrival. That way, everyone wins!

 

PS. I still did see a wonderful woman that night at my place, but it was someone I have seen before because we have established trust. Just my perspective.

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Maybe I’m old school but I’ve never had a problem with going to someone’s house. Guys will generally not hurt anyone where they live. Think about it. Are you going to eff a girl up where you live? Single or not, why run the risk of having her come back with the cops or a pimp. They’re not going to shit where they sleep. Outcall to a hotel no way! LE is getting smart with screening. Hotels are too risky these days.

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14 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said:

Maybe I’m old school but I’ve never had a problem with going to someone’s house. Guys will generally not hurt anyone where they live. Think about it. Are you going to eff a girl up where you live? Single or not, why run the risk of having her come back with the cops or a pimp. They’re not going to shit where they sleep. Outcall to a hotel no way! LE is getting smart with screening. Hotels are too risky these days.

   Guys also have to screen what girls come to their house . Agree about hotels .

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I had the same request awhile back.  However, I parked a few blocks away and discreetly went in when the pizza guy pulled up.  Although, I was a touch nervous by the request I just took safety measures.  Turned off my iPhone before I went in, pre-verified, drove around the neighborhood, etc.   I want his privacy as much as he does.  He also was trying to make me as comfortable as possible and gave me any info I asked for.  Turned out to be an amazing night, glad I took the chance. Good luck.

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