Posted October 17, 2015 Pop quiz:Guys, if you book an appointment and prepare the fund according to her advertised rate, get to the location, only to hear that she has a new rate now (just posted online)and insist on getting the new higher rate, what would you do?1. cough up the difference and make her happy2. ask your $$ back (which usually not going to happen) and walk out3. ask her to end the session early Providers, would you remind your client of your new higher rate before hand or wait until he shows up? If he booked the app when the old ad was up, would you honor the lower rate? Thanks for your inputs. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 Providers who raise there rates typically make an announcement. And its posted on there website or there ads. It not a good idea to discuss rates or services. That what the ad/website/p411 is for. Its no different than getting an oil change at grease monkey when they raised there rates you pay the raised rate or your get no oil change. 1. cough up the difference and make her happy It has nothing to do with making her happy. All you have to do is read her ad/website look for rates.2. ask your $$ back (which usually not going to happen) and walk outLook at her ad/website/p411. You book her, you should know her rates before you get there. 3. ask her to end the session earlyI personally wouldn't end the session early, kinda ruins the fun. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) I've never heard of this happening. It's never happened to me in 25 years. Did it happen to you?If it ever happened, I'd leave right away (with or without my original donation), I'd post negative reviews on every site I know. Edited October 17, 2015 by pfunk change sentence structure 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Leave. Her rate is what was posted when you booked. Edited October 17, 2015 by abigailfox bad spelling! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 If the provider cares any at all about her reputation, then she should honor the rate that was posted when the session was booked. It's only good business practice.. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 It is not at all uncommon (but should be) for some ladies to have three or more different rates posted at the same time - website, p411, old EB or here, BP, etc. When confirming the appointment mention the ad location that prompted your call. Certainly you can't talk about services, but fees for time clearly stated in ad are fair game for confirmation on phone if she has multiple rates up. That is the expected rate when you get there. If different, then walk. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 Providers who raise there rates typically make an announcement. And its posted on there website or there ads. It not a good idea to discuss rates or services. That what the ad/website/p411 is for. Its no different than getting an oil change at grease monkey when they raised there rates you pay the raised rate or your get no oil change. No, I most certainly do not pay more than the currently advertised price. Would be illegal marketing on their part.1. cough up the difference and make her happy It has nothing to do with making her happy. All you have to do is read her ad/website look for rates.2. ask your $$ back (which usually not going to happen) and walk outLook at her ad/website/p411. You book her, you should know her rates before you get there. And if those three sites have three different rates, then what? I say confirm rate when confirming appointment. If same rate all sites, no need to confirm.3. ask her to end the session earlyI personally wouldn't end the session early, kinda ruins the fun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Providers who raise there rates typically make an announcement. And its posted on there website or there ads. It not a good idea to discuss rates or services. That what the ad/website/p411 is for. Its no different than getting an oil change at grease monkey when they raised there rates you pay the raised rate or your get no oil change. No, I most certainly do not pay more than the currently advertised price. Would be illegal marketing on their part. Look at her ad/website/p411. You book her, you should know her rates before you get there. And if those three sites have three different rates, then what? I say confirm rate when confirming appointment. If same rate all sites, no need to confirm. Humm maybe I did not make myself clear. Sorry, you should not be expected "pay more than the currently advertised price." I was trying to say you read her ads website and p411. Those are her rates, that is what you pay. If she raised her rates the girls usually post it in there ads. If its a last minute deal of raising her rates when you show up, and she is running a scam on you, wouldn't that be considered rip off and illegal marketing on her part? I would think so.You know I didn't think about this either until gr8owl pointed the above out. Some providers offer a discount on P411 for members only. So if your not on p411, you don't get that discount. As for the other sites having different rates on them, well I didn't think of that. And actually I have been guilty of different rates myself. Edited October 17, 2015 by Nikki Holiday 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 Humm maybe I did not make myself clear. Sorry, you should not be expected "pay more than the currently advertised price." I was trying to say you read her ads website and p411. Those are her rates, that is what you pay. If she raised her rates the girls usually post it in there ads. If its a last minute deal of raising her rates when you show up, and she is running a scam on you, wouldn't that be considered rip off and illegal marketing on her part? I would think so.You know I didn't think about this either until gr8owl pointed the above out. Some providers offer a discount on P411 for members only. So if your not on p411, you don't get that discount. As for the other sites having different rates on them, well I didn't think of that. And actually I have been guilty of different rates myself. Nicky, I don't think your understanding what the op is saying. Let's say I look at BP, p411 or whatever where the girl advertises. I know the rate. Then with that rate in mind I book the appointment. I then go to the appointment and lay the donation down, said YL then inspects donation and says "oh I'm sorry honey but the rate is higher now and it's posted". It's almost like an upsell. Am I supposed to recheck her advertised rate 30 seconds before I knock on the door? I don't think so. So then the questions are asked. Stay and pay the upsell or leave. Kinda a bait and switch if you ask me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 Nicky, I don't think your understanding what the op is saying. Let's say I look at BP, p411 or whatever where the girl advertises. I know the rate. Then with that rate in mind I book the appointment. I then go to the appointment and lay the donation down, said YL then inspects donation and says "oh I'm sorry honey but the rate is higher now and it's posted". It's almost like an upsell. Am I supposed to recheck her advertised rate 30 seconds before I knock on the door? I don't think so. So then the questions are asked. Stay and pay the upsell or leave. Kinda a bait and switch if you ask me. I understand now. I am trying really hard to improve my writing and reading. The last few days my dyslexia has been really bad. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 To the OP's point (rate raised between making the appointment & the your arrival), it's an UPSELL and should be reviewed as such. She should honor the rate advertised when the appointment was made.As for "stay or go", depends on how horny you are & how much ( $s & time ) you have invested & how much more you can afford. You can pay her upcharge, pay another YL's full fare, or go without. You do the math!As gr8owl says, it is a good idea to confirm rate/time when making the appointment if there is any question. Something as simple as, "That's $X for the hour. Correct?"Some YL have different rates based their costs; some based on the advertising venue's market, and some on their immediate needs. For example, I generally figured the P411 discount was based on the reduced time/effort for screening clients, i.e. less overhead. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 If I were a client I would be confused. I used to be one of those that advertised different rates in different places but I have never and would never force a higher rate on someone if they booked when another rate was listed. I will say if you see a special posted you should confirm it when making an appointment.I cruise the ads almost daily, I like to see the trends. I notice that there is a good number of ladies whose rates change frequently and there often isn't any notice. It changes with a mood or because someone needs new tires. It's ever fluctuating and only to echo what others have already said it's an upsell and if it was something you experienced you should review it as such. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 The one downside to P411 for many (but not all) ladies, is that if the lady advertises in multiple places, her P411 rate will be the highest. If you pick a lady strictly from the P411 list, without checking out any other local boards, odds are that you are paying a higher rate. The "P411 premium" can be as much as 100 or more an hour.If you saw the lady's ad somewhere else, but contacted her through P411 directly, she is probably expecting the P411 rate, which could add to the confusion. The best route is to contact her via phone/text/email (whichever she prefers), tell her you saw her ad on (insert board here), mention her special if shes offerring one. Specify the time you wish, and offer to send an "official" P411 request if she's free, so she can screen you. This way, you both know the expected donation from the mentioned ad/special, and you still get the benefit of P411 screening. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 To the OP's point (rate raised between making the appointment & the your arrival), it's an UPSELL and should be reviewed as such. She should honor the rate advertised when the appointment was made.As for "stay or go", depends on how horny you are & how much ( $s & time ) you have invested & how much more you can afford. You can pay her upcharge, pay another YL's full fare, or go without. You do the math!As gr8owl says, it is a good idea to confirm rate/time when making the appointment if there is any question. Something as simple as, "That's $X for the hour. Correct?"Some YL have different rates based their costs; some based on the advertising venue's market, and some on their immediate needs. For example, I generally figured the P411 discount was based on the reduced time/effort for screening clients, i.e. less overhead. I've got hung up on before when I mentioned donation amount on the phone. So I was cautious not to say anything about $$. My bad. But I still have the feeling that I have been taken for a ride. Had I found out we were not on the same page, I would have backed out.So yeah lessons learned.No, she's not a BP girl. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 Pop quiz:Guys, if you book an appointment and prepare the fund according to her advertised rate, get to the location, only to hear that she has a new rate now (just posted online)and insist on getting the new higher rate, what would you do?1. cough up the difference and make her happy2. ask your $$ back (which usually not going to happen) and walk out3. ask her to end the session early Providers, would you remind your client of your new higher rate before hand or wait until he shows up? If he booked the app when the old ad was up, would you honor the lower rate? Thanks for your inputs.In this case, I would honor the original price. Then insist that the next visit would be the new donation. explaining why I change it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17, 2015 I've got hung up on before when I mentioned donation amount on the phone. So I was cautious not to say anything about $$. My bad. But I still have the feeling that I have been taken for a ride. Had I found out we were not on the same page, I would have backed out.So yeah lessons learned.No, she's not a BP girl. Yupp, lesson learned. Write a review, sounds like this girl deserves to take a hit to her reputation pulling shit like that at the last second. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Ok y'all my thoughts are in many places on this subject so I'm going to post in a category style...to some it won't make sense ... Unless you booked IN advance She needs to honor that posted "Special" ...I've even forgot to Update The 2 boards Colorado has ... I Go to my 411/Website/Eccie (even BP) first when making changes..But still honor my mistakes.. Whether I missed posting a match ad to a site or not..Face it! TOB/EB is ONLY Colorado based..Yet 60-70% of the woman here are On Tour(not from Colorado...damn greens...lol...J/K...)..411.TeR.Website.ECCIE/BP and many more are National boards and Booming...Photos,Ads ,Pricing,Schedules change like the weather.... And these sites are FREE!If changes are made its more than likely made at these boards FIRST and Colorado's boards can be forgotten or missed. Especially with Touring ladies..If its a LOCAL gal doing these ridiculous scandals than roast her, review her and post her..She knows better! Note: I don't think it counts as a permanent rate change guys...Holiday Weeks get slow..Election year, Sports and ALL need to be considered .Some ladies need to keep rev coming All week long.(hotel living/incall) .Some ladies just a few days a week/month ( No Hotel Incall/residents)..If they change consistently ask Her WHAT her basic rate is...Mention if you Want/Don't want a special rate... Most ALL Escorts will honor a RESPECTFUL request...its the brow beating or indirect insults that piss us off.. ..But a "Hey @#$%&" I noticed you had a special posted (include link to post)That I may have missed...I can come see you today (now)(DO NOT TRY TO PREBOOK) If you are still honoring it..If not, Im sorry to waste your timetime, I will look else where but I really wanted to see you..Here's my recent verified references if your available " xoxo Jim.. That ^^^^^ I would respond and respect... And book....But a...."Hey @#$% you still got that special? I'm interested/and or a reviewer" ^^ That ^^^ gets you nowhere but hung up on or denied.. Bottom line guys...Whether you Hobby Weekly ,Monthly or daily.. it is YOUR responsibility to stay updated/research the rates/location/reputation of the lady you want to see..She did not post just for you! And with today's technology.. Anything less is an excuse for laziness or just an insult to our intelligence for Business... Edited October 18, 2015 by Chrissy (720-xxx-4254) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 Yupp, lesson learned. Write a review, sounds like this girl deserves to take a hit to her reputation pulling shit like that at the last second.Agreed. Write a review detailing your experience. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 I always ask how much of a gift I should bring. I've never had a lady refuse to answer that question. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 Ask her for the money back so you can count it yourself. Then say, "my bad, I don't have enough" and walk out. Drop a $20 for her troubles if you feel like it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 I've always believed I should honor the rate that was being advertised when the client booked the appointment, with the important exception being specials that are only for the specific days that are advertised. For example, lets say my Friday suddenly opens up and I need to work. I might run a special for appointments that day but it would only be for appointments on that specific day, everything else is the regular rate. When you change rates it can be a little confusing for everyone for the first week or two but I would always honor the rate in effect when the appointment was booked and the few times confusion has been an issue have just taken the previous rate and made sure the client knew next time the new rate would be in effect. Someone mentioned P411 and higher rates. Charging P411 members a higher rate is not fair at all and can get a provider in trouble with Gina if she learns about it. I always ask how much of a gift I should bring. I've never had a lady refuse to answer that question. I'd ask you to check my P411 profile or TOB ad here to answer any questions you may have. I try my best to not discuss rates at all, though with multi hour appointments that isn't always possible since I'm not going post a long list for each hour increment. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 Changing rates is always a tough one I wont see someone that changes their rates often This way there is no uncomfortable moments.I saw a wonderful provider a few weeks ago and must have missed a $20 when I grabbed her cash, I am still so embarrassed that I will never let ghat happen again 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 The one downside to P411 for many (but not all) ladies, is that if the lady advertises in multiple places, her P411 rate will be the highest. If you pick a lady strictly from the P411 list, without checking out any other local boards, odds are that you are paying a higher rate. The "P411 premium" can be as much as 100 or more an hour.Charging more on P411 is strictly against P411 policy. If you find a provider charging more on P411 than elsewhere, I suggest letting P411 know immediately. The provider's rates will then become uniform in short order. Always,Gina 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 For the guys... I would say that you pay the rate that you saw when you booked her. For example, if you looked at her website on Tuesday, and booked an appointment for next Friday, upping her rates the day before you meet should not effect you. She knows she changed her rate in the middle of a trip or what have you, so she's probably keeping track and expecting it. If you notice it during your final glances at her site, you can always say something, just to double check, and make your decision from there. A simple "I noticed your rates changed" note will do. Most ladies have changed their rates at some point, so that alone, without any weirdness like "and I get to blow bubbles in your hoo hah, right?", shouldn't get you cut off by most women here. Nothing wrong with everyone knowing what they're getting into!I don't mean to put the onus of her housekeeping on you, that's just what I would if I were a guy. There can be a moment in between everything she's already doing where she may have forgotten to update a website or her ad was flat out stolen and inevitably out of date. That is why I always suggest double checking. At least with me, my website is updated most often, followed by reputable ad sites, and then profiles like the one here (we all have to divide our time somehow, lol). On the rare occasion that I have the time and patience, I try to manage the constant supply of fake advertisers that we ladies have to deal with. So if you see something that varies, there's nothing wrong with mentioning something to her. Maybe she hasn't gotten around to it and will honor the lower rate, maybe she does have a special rate for that site, or maybe she completely forgot about that ad and appreciates you helping her to correct it. It's good to look around and see that your expectations aren't out of line, and you never go wrong knowing that things are squared away. It's not about who is "responsible", it's a "help me help you/keep it easy" kind of thing :-)If she surprises you with a rate change when you get there, then again, I would double check. You never know, maybe there was a genuine misunderstanding from one of the steps above or any number of other things. There's no need to ruin a good time if it doesn't need to be. If that is definitely not the case... Whether or not you work something out from there is up to you, but I always encourage people to be careful of what they do. If nothing else, no one (at least normal people, lol) wants a scene, so quickly and quietly remove yourself from the situation if you must. I don't have much helpful perspective to add for those kinds of situations, and would defer on whether or not to start asking for money back or negotiating different amounts of time with someone new. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 No way, no how should the rate be increased after the appointment is scheduled. I have let gents know if my specials are ending. For example....Say I am running a special on day X-Y but I cannot see a guy because I am booked. I usually extend that rate to them. BUT at no time has a guy showed up and heard me say oh in the last little bit I raised my rate. Absolutely NOT. I would write a review abput it because in my opinion that is upselling.You guys get screwed in a lot of ways. You're not supposed to ask about rates on the phone, but if you do not ask then you get into a situation like this. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 19, 2015 Charging more on P411 is strictly against P411 policy. If you find a provider charging more on P411 than elsewhere, I suggest letting P411 know immediately. The provider's rates will then become uniform in short order. Always,GinaThank you for that clarification. As of yesterday, I have decided to try new experiences with different donation amounts. I just finished chatting with someone from P411 and corrected my donations. Very helpful. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 20, 2015 Eh really?In this case, I would honor the original price. Then insist that the next visit would be the new donation. explaining why I change it. That wasn't what you told me when I saw you!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 20, 2015 Ask her for the money back so you can count it yourself. Then say, "my bad, I don't have enough" and walk out. Drop a $20 for her troubles if you feel like it. Hey Frankenthaler, LOL that is smart! But she's smarter:she goes, "xxx$?", I am like "yes?!", "But I am charging xxx+ today!" She holds the $ firm and her voice raised, I don't know if there's other person in other room. So do I have a choice? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 20, 2015 When you are about to drop $$$ you are going to research to death, right? I am. Actually I followed the ad on this board for quite some time, it never changed day after day, not a "special". I guess she woke up that day midday and decided she wanted to charge more. Oh well, bad luck on my part... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 21, 2015 When you are about to drop $$$ you are going to research to death, right? I am. Actually I followed the ad on this board for quite some time, it never changed day after day, not a "special". I guess she woke up that day midday and decided she wanted to charge more. Oh well, bad luck on my part...I would post a review that covers these events. it's really good information for the guys considering a visit with the provider in question. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
