have you hired a porn star?

[Fntimes76]

Just curious, I know there are a number of ladies here who have been in a film or two but I'm curious, have any of you hired a big name porn star? how was it? was the giant jump in cost worth the experience?

[Guest]

Just curious, I know there are a number of ladies here who have been in a film or two but I'm curious, have any of you hired a big name porn star? YES  

how was it? IT WAS SEX 

was the giant jump in cost worth the experience? NO

Please don't get me wrong.  If one visits, one should pay the price the lady is asking.  But I would not waste a lot of money on a porn star/ provider and expect a movie-class porn experience.  No matter how many times I date Sharon Stone, I just can't recreate the way I felt when I first saw the sex scene in Basic Instinct.  I wish she'd stop calling me.

1) Our brains view pornography differently than they view a real world women.  As a result, your brain's reaction to her in real life will be different than the screen.

2) As with ALL providers, the underlying rule of YMMV applies.

3) In the long run, you will have a better time at a better price if you are able to determine which physical attributes and which activities you are most interested in, and choose a provider whose photos/stats and reviews best match them.

We still have several ladies in the Denver area who have made porn films: Danielle Rae, Busty Monica, and Kyla Young come to mind immediately.  They are at different price points and all have very good reviews.  Their point of view on this would be interesting.

[mrvegas63]

Don't forget, what you see on video is results of good makeup and lighting.

This is what porn actresses look like in real life (#3 in first link works in Denver as a domme, "Nicci"):

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/33-startling-photos-of-pornstars-with-and-without-their-make#.rg6WgrBpQ

https://instagram.com/xmelissamakeupx/

[JRWolfe]

Well, yes..I'had had porn stars, many are friends of mine. The link above to what they "really look like " is ridiculous. What lady doesn't make herslf up for her clients ?? That said,many porn stars ,like many other women, are natural beautys..and some need their makeup. There are several ladies that SHOULD be porn stars based on their looks and talents that advertise here. Its a their choice situation if they want to be caught on film. Read their reviews and decide for yourself who is worth the price they offer and who is in your budget.

[Danielle Rae]

I'm gonna give my opinion and thoughts on this and hope that my words don't mess up my intended message too terribly bad LOL.  I think if you expect the sexual experience to be "so much better" or "over-the-top" with a provider simply based upon the fact that she's performed in X-rated movies; you will likely find yourself disappointed.   My privates and my sexuality did not become "lined with Gold" or "super-human" the moment I became an adult film actress.  My 'cookie' was tjhe same 'cookie' it was before I had sex on film. My sexuality and personality were also not significantly altered by having sex on film.

Truth is the typical porn scene is greatly dramatized and involves a significant amount of 'pretending,' There is a lot more going on off-camera than most people realize and it is quite uncommon for there to be any real intimacy or climatic moments truly occuring despite what is being portrayed by the actors.  A lot of what you see is pretend and fake - including (sorry fellas) the over-the-top 'squirt' scenes.  Just because I performed in a squirt scene, does not mean that I can actually do this in real life.  It is fake. It is a movie trick.  No matter how you color it, women do not have the anatomy to build up and/or store these magical fluids other than in our bladders.  So one of two things has taken place in these fantasy squirt movies: she either drank a large amount of water prior to the scene and upon the direction of the director released the diluted contents of her bladder while at the same time pretending to have a mind-blowing orgasm; or as was the case in my scene, the director simply cuts film while the actress is filled with warm water via a douche applicator of some sort and when the film continues she simply pushes said fluids out while pretending to have a mind-blowing orgasm (and in my case, it's 3 or 4 takes before the final cut which results in a soggy wet mess for the poor clean-up crew LOL)  

I guess my point is - at the end of the day, I am the same woman I was (for the most part) before I did porn.  I think the higher rates charged by some porn stars are not so much to imply an "out of this world" "exceptionally better" and "over-the-top" sexual experience but rather for the bragging rights you will have in being able to say that you've 'had sex with a porn star.'  And if you are wanting to experience the sex you typically see in a porn scene - that is okay as long as you realize it is for the most part fake and not genuinely as enjoyable as the movies often portray.

Hopefully that makes sense?  Sometimes it's so difficult for me to get my point down in actual words LOL Muah!   (I haven't figured out how to spell check on this new forum so please forgive me) 

[Juanmotai]

There are 3 types of women I avoid and skip when I am looking through providers ad's, Asians, AA's and porn stars. Just my personal preference though. Those are the 3 types that don't appeal to me. But everyone has their own preferences and not everyones are the same. 

[lucmorningstar]

have any of you hired a big name porn star? how was it? was the giant jump in cost worth the experience?

I hired one back when I was living in LA. It wasn't anything special. Maybe, I had this mentality since watching her stuff that it'll be the same... but it wasn't....entirely different. She was a very nice individual but the cost wasn't worth it in my opinion. I just think I hyped myself up way too much and came out disappointed lol.

[Guest]

Don't forget, what you see on video is results of good makeup and lighting.

This is what porn actresses look like in real life (#3 in first link works in Denver as a domme, "Nicci"):

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/33-startling-photos-of-pornstars-with-and-without-their-make#.rg6WgrBpQ

https://instagram.com/xmelissamakeupx/

holybajezus!!!! Some of those Ladies look like 2 totally different people w/ & w/o makeup! 

20. Samantha Saint, 59 titles, 26 years old

in her "before" photo it looks like she has freckles. I LOVE FRECKLES! Then in her after photo she has no more freckles. *sadpanda* 

[frankenthaler91]

Yes.   Her rates were in line with the market.  I likely saw her a dozen times over a 2 year period.  Sweet lady.  

[frankenthaler91]

I forgot.  Before that, there was another one.  She was a topic shortly after I found this place. So my 1st posting.   Rates again in line with the market.  But service was lacking.   Reviews that followed were in line with my experience. 

It was unfortunate.  She could have been one of the best. 

[Fntimes76]

Thanks for the input. wasn't really expecting an out of the world experience any more than anyone "regular" could provide. mostly thinking about fulfilling an "man I've always wanted to see her in person after the films" thing.

 

[Guest]

I've never hired a porn star before but back in the day, there used to be a Penthouse pet that used to work as an escort in Denver named Ki or Kia. She was on the magazine and also did their soft porn videos (no sex). She didn't charge a premium and she was absolutely gorgeous. I saw her twice. The first time was really amazing, lots of kissing and hot sex.  And then she went away for a while. She came back after a few years and so I booked her again. The second time was absolutely terrible. She had gained weight and was totally washed up or high or something.  What a shame.  She was one of my ATF...  Anyone here remember her?

[pfunk]

I've never hired a porn star before but back in the day, there used to be a Penthouse pet that used to work as an escort in Denver named Ki or Kia. She was on the magazine and also did their soft porn videos (no sex). She didn't charge a premium and she was absolutely gorgeous. I saw her twice. The first time was really amazing, lots of kissing and hot sex.  And then she went away for a while. She came back after a few years and so I booked her again. The second time was absolutely terrible. She had gained weight and was totally washed up or high or something.  What a shame.  She was one of my ATF...  Anyone here remember her?

I remember. Her name was Ki. My experience was different than your 1st and 2nd. Good, but not fantastic.. A bit pricey.

[Kyla Young]

Ok my 2 cents from one of the other 2 porn actresses listed.

First want to address Danielle Ray. Part of what you said I agreed with but not all. I worked backwards in this industry. Started in porn back in the late 90's before retiring after winning an AVN and becoming a feature entertainer and finally an escort. During the time active in porn, shooting over 200 different scenes. A lot of what you see in the final cut of a porn scene is the result of really good editing, camera tricks, and faking. It's Hollywood after all.  I was in LA working in porn and had my agency when the Darren James aids scandal from anal cream-pies hit. 2 of our girls were infected. Porn in LA changed at that time and AIM (adult industry medical) made some new rules. Cream-pies were faked after that, unless it was a couple who did it together in real life. I have lots of fun stories of behind the scenes on the making of "cum". BUT disagree on the female squirt being faked because I for one can really squirt and it's NOT pee.  I’ve have done it in sessions, no douche used, and after I pee'd. Clients and providers alike have witnessed it. First squirt ever was on film and you can see my genuine surprise! I have several friends who also squirt, one girl actually short-circuited my computer doing webcam. The big difference is when with a client they can experience that it is not pee because they can taste and smell it and see which hole it comes out of.  Of course not all squirt scenes on camera are legit but to say that ALL are faked is incorrect.

As to the difference between a real life pornstar and a regular working girl it's all in the individual experience. I have worked with providers who never made a film but do a fantastic PSE session. And appointment with a well-known pornstar that was not so hot. Being one on one BCD is totally different than being on a movie set, so if the actress doesn't really get into it, or have a real personality that will show in a session.

Read reviews on the pornstar you want to experience. Many clients visit for a "bucket list" and become close friends that continue to visit because we have real fun and a PSE with a personality. If you are looking for a specific activity done in a certain movie than check if that is really offered. A lot of what we did on camera is not offered in escorting due to safety and reality. So read reviews to make sure you are getting the provider you want.

Finally in regards to rate. I have received and read complaints that start from the "too cheap to be a real pornstar" to "overpriced and crazy to charge what I do" have learned that you can't please everyone. We all pick the rates we are comfortable at for whatever reason. I am picky and with my resume, can charge on the higher side but I want to have fun and don't go the outrageous 1600-2500/hr that a lot of porn girls do.

Regardless of if you pick a regular provider who offers an amazing PSE or a real life pornstar with fantastic reviews. As long as you do your research and pick what YOU want you will have fun! Just don't go in with high expectations!

 

Have fun experiencing all types of PSE girls!

 

[Wannabebad]

 I have lots of fun stories of behind the scenes on the making of "cum". BUT disagree on the female squirt being faked because I for one can really squirt and it's NOT pee.  I’ve have done it in sessions, no douche used, and after I pee'd. Clients and providers alike have witnessed it. First squirt ever was on film and you can see my genuine surprise! I have several friends who also squirt, one girl actually short-circuited my computer doing webcam. The big difference is when with a client they can experience that it is not pee because they can taste and smell it and see which hole it comes out of.  Of course not all squirt scenes on camera are legit but to say that ALL are faked is incorrect.

As to the difference between a real life pornstar and a regular working girl it's all in the individual experience. I have worked with providers who never made a film but do a fantastic PSE session. And appointment with a well-known pornstar that was not so hot. Being one on one BCD is totally different than being on a movie set, so if the actress doesn't really get into it, or have a real personality that will show in a session.

Read reviews on the pornstar you want to experience. Many clients visit for a "bucket list" and become close friends that continue to visit because we have real fun and a PSE with a personality. If you are looking for a specific activity done in a certain movie than check if that is really offered. A lot of what we did on camera is not offered in escorting due to safety and reality. So read reviews to make sure you are getting the provider you want.

Finally in regards to rate. I have received and read complaints that start from the "too cheap to be a real pornstar" to "overpriced and crazy to charge what I do" have learned that you can't please everyone. We all pick the rates we are comfortable at for whatever reason. I am picky and with my resume, can charge on the higher side but I want to have fun and don't go the outrageous 1600-2500/hr that a lot of porn girls do.

Regardless of if you pick a regular provider who offers an amazing PSE or a real life pornstar with fantastic reviews. As long as you do your research and pick what YOU want you will have fun! Just don't go in with high expectations!

Have fun experiencing all types of PSE girls!

 

Kyla, 

i was trying to quote you but it messed up bad. Anyway thank you for confirming the squirt thing. I have been with more then a couple of woman in my life outside of this activity and have found that the g-spot is a wonderful thing when it comes to getting a girl to squirt and yes it's real and I LOVE when I find a girl that is relaxed enough to let it happen. I have a question for you though since you are one of our resident porn stars. 

What in YOUR mind is the difference between GFE and PSE? I have known girls that have been girlfriends that would be at home on a set yet they are girlfriends. Also why do you think or do you think that a lady should try and charge a premium or up charge for what they consider PSE.

[parkercole]

I've been fortunate to see several porn stars or adult workers the past several years. all of these ladies I have seen as I was traveling on the west coast (Vegas, L.A., San Fran, and Seattle). also i was able to see these ladies for overnight dates. it's fair to say the ladies that were "porn stars" or more in the limelight were a much more spendy date!  was it worth it? well some were and some weren't. just as any date you either have the chemistry or not. the more popular ones were usually more about business. complete psexperience. which is what I expected. and I found that there was a lack of depth or ability for them to just be themselves. I didn't have any grandiose expectations. and I certainly wasn't expecting non stop sex, or for them to be on point throughout the whole date. I just wanted an open and honest fun adventure with a fellow human being! but it was hard for some to shed that stage persona. and it's certainly understandable!

 

but there was one lady in vegas that I had a really amazing time with! she showed me the town! took me to cool unique places off the strip during our time. I actually had a free night open where she called me up and took me to a Thursday night hang out of hers. it was an awesome 60's/70's swanky steakhouse/bar. met her circle of friends. some in the biz and many not.

 

what I have found is the ladies who don't label themselves as porn stars to be more real. there is this whole pure genuine sub culture of ladies that exist in the San Fran and Seattle area. these ladies are writers, are a very instrumental part of their movies and production of them, and are advocates for sex workers. these ladies have this deep strong community held together by a genuine unity.  these are the ladies I have been seeing when I do see a lady in the busines. just have a connection and a genuine time with these ladies!

[fork]

Yes, but not a big-name. The answer is, damn right it was worth it... but her rates were not exorbitant, just a bit above average escort rates.

I think it would be silly to expect that a porn star has any more skills than any other professional, experienced ASP. It would only justify a huge cost premium if that's your particular fantasy.

[Guest]

Kyla, 

i was trying to quote you but it messed up bad. Anyway thank you for confirming the squirt thing. I have been with more then a couple of woman in my life outside of this activity and have found that the g-spot is a wonderful thing when it comes to getting a girl to squirt and yes it's real and I LOVE when I find a girl that is relaxed enough to let it happen. I have a question for you though since you are one of our resident porn stars. 

What in YOUR mind is the difference between GFE and PSE? I have known girls that have been girlfriends that would be at home on a set yet they are girlfriends. Also why do you think or do you think that a lady should try and charge a premium or up charge for what they consider PSE.

These are the exact questions I came here to ask, but I'd love to hear other's opinions on it as well.

What's your differentiation between a PSE and a GFE?  There's a consistent ad up for a provider that offers specific activities as PSE while many times you can find the same things listed under a GFE review.  And do you think the prices should be different, and if so, why?

I honestly have no idea what I think of with it.  An ex of mine in my civilian life was a former dancer and actress in the adult industry so a PSE is a GFE.  Hell, the first day we lived together we would even just have a five minute conversation and then jump to screwing...exactly like a lot of pornos start out!  I guess what I'm trying to say is, to me, right now PSE and GFE are like the Big Mac and the Big King (or whatever BK's is called); two different names for the same thing.

Ps to all you fine ladies out there, I don't really put the experiences with y'all as low as McD's and BK.  I just couldn't think of any two premium restaurants with identical items.  

[Danielle Rae]

" BUT I disagree on the female squirt being faked because I for one can really squirt and it's NOT pee.  To prove this I have done it in sessions, no douche used, and after I pee'd. Clients and providers alike have witnessed it. Also my first squirt ever was on film and you can see my genuine surprise that I did it! I have several friends who also squirt and yes, I have seen it. One girl actually short-circuited my computer doing webcam. The big difference is when with a client they can experience that it is not pee because they can taste and smell it and see which hole it comes out of.  Of course not all squirt scenes on camera are legit but to say that ALL are faked is incorrect."

Hi Kyla! It's been a long time and I hope things are going great for you! You are the one and only provider I have actually met in person - I just realized that as I type this response. Not sure of that being of any relevance to this thread but interesting fact none the less LOL

Anyway, I would like to clarify that my above post did not state that ALL scenes are faked but rather that "most" of them contain a significant amount of "pretending and/or faking" and the reason simply being attributable to the plethora of other distractions normally going on 'behind the scenes' or 'off camera'   I also would like to clarify that I did not use the word "pee" nor did I say that the fluid in squirt scenes was 'urine'  - rather I simply pointed out the fact that the anatomy of a normal female human being does not include any other means by which to store nor create the large volumes of fluid seen gushing out of the females in the 'over-the-top Squirt scenes' other than her bladder.  Women do not have a prostate nor any testicles.  And the glands which some attribute to these magnificent water shows are also not capable of producing and/or containing anywhere near the volume seen in those 'over-the-top Squirt' scenes - thereby rendering the reasonable conclusion that most of those over-the-top scenes are in fact fake or  modified drastically via movie tricks, such as the one I described was used in mine. (By over the top scene, I am referring to the ones where so much fluid is gushing from her body it's splashing all over the camera lens and continues to flow for 30+ seconds, etc.) 

And I will agree that the diluted fluids or contents of a woman's bladder resulting after drinking large volumes of water will oftentimes have no smell, , color, or any other resemblance to urine whatsoever - that does not, however, change the fact that said fluids are being expelled from her bladder.  Lastly, the contents of a woman's bladder after having ingested very large volumes of water over a short period of time are certainly not the same fluids that make up the end product produced by our bodies filteration mechanism aka the urinary system - this fluid being of course - urine.  Whether it be the result of intentionally chugging a gallon of water or the natural process of our kidney's filtering processes - the resulting fluid is still coming from the only internal body part the female body has that is capable of holding such a volume of fluid and that part being - her bladder.    Lastly, while I've no doubt that there are women who can  'squirt' - I do however doubt that very many of them can block out the obnoxious level of distractions and other chaos found on set of  the average porn shoot - to do so of her own natural erotic responses. With 200 scenes under your belt - I don't need to tell you what I'm talking about when I say that the average porn shoot rarely consists of an atmosphere typically required by women to truly accomplish much if any "true" intimacy -  would be nice but simply doesn't happen on most porn sets.

The bigger point I was intending to make was that despite what is conveyed on the screen, in reality there are very few women who will tell you they truly and honestly enjoyed those hours of having her anus stretched ruthlessly by the cocks of multiple men; or that she really truly liked contorting herself in those wild positions that drained every ounce of blood from her limbs or that the random male actor she was blessed with the opportunity to shoot said particular scene with was truly, in fact, that amazingly talented and skilled as to bring her to such intense pleasure despite the 35 other people in the room and multiple other significant distractions taking place amongst them - so if one is choosing to book an appointment with a porn-star and paying a great deal more than he otherwise would a non-porn provider with the sole expectation of experiencing the kind of sexual experience found in most porn scenes, that he is very likely to be disappointed because let's face it - what you think you see the women (or men for that matter)  enjoying  in the movie's is not usually their actual reality.

(What is it that causes me to retype these posts over and over again after somehow managing to completely erase the last 20 minutes of typed text ?? Seriously, does this happen to anyone else?  It's driving me nuts! I cannot for the life of me figure out what I am doing that erases my entire post and it happens all of the time lately--grrrr  :/

 

[Kyla Young]

Sorry for the delayed response everyone! I was on tour and just got back last night and taking a look today. I am noticing some quirks too so I apologize for not replying sooner!

Hi Danielle!!! Yes we have known each other forever!!!! That's why I knew I could respond to you  and I agree with your 2nd post!! I remember back in the day, there was someone buying you dances from me and bought one of my movies I autographed. That was back when I was active in porn and I loved hanging out with you!!! I miss ya girl! 

Ok to the gentlemen who asked what MY opinion is on the difference between PSE and GFE. My first post on this topic went into it a little bit but I will give how I describe MY personal time and why I call myself PSE besides the obvious of being a pornstar. First it depends on which part of the country you live in as to what people consider PSE or GFE. I always bill as PSE and have run into some problems in certain locations where they consider my activities GFE. Always shocks me lol. 

So here goes my personal description (fantasy speaking of course  ). I am a dirty talker who gets right to business. None of this sit and get to know each other, I want a cock in my mouth within 2 mins of being together. From there it just escalates. Bbbj, bbbjcim, telling you to f*** me harder and faster, squirting, multiple positions, multiple pops. Adding other partners, male and/or female. I don't kiss and don't want the have slow love-making. Of course there are many more details but to me that's basically what a PSE entails. In Texas that makes me GFE, go figure. I have known PSE's that kiss and PSE's that don't do bbbj. So it's not like the provider has to offer everything on a certain menu to qualify one way or another.

I hope that answer helped, I don't want to get in trouble for being too detailed.

Now to answer the question posted to me about my feelings on rate worth. For those of you old timers, you remember I had an agency that didn't have only pornstars. I had GND types too and I charged just as much for my GND girls as the pornstar girls. My rates are not that much different than non-pornstar providers here and in other cities. One of the providers I work with is more than I am and isn't a pornstar but offers both GFE and PSE. She is always telling me to raise my rates because I am worth more. I do offer certain services that most providers don't offer, so do I take that into calculation of my rates? Of course. I raised my rates back in 2012 when I started touring full time and had a few new movies come out. I changed up my services offered and really made my time like my films instead of the GFE type service. Let's say I found myself, in terms of escorting, and knew where I wanted to be. For 3 years I didn't change my rates and just recently changed to make both in and out the same, it was only a $50 difference. This was done because I don't offer incall often so paying for an upscale room has gone up and it was confusing to many to try to text in and the out rates so I made it easy and they are now equal. But again, there are many GFE providers that are the same rate as me. Maybe they feel the kissing and cuddling should be worth more than swallowing, which is completely fine. Everyone has a different thing they enjoy and are looking for.

It is up to the individual provider to decide what she values her time at. Maybe she bases it off of what services she does, maybe how she looks, maybe market value. I could charge the 1600-2500 that other real pornstars do but I like to have fun and do this job. If I was that high, many of my favorite clients could only see me every 6 months instead of every month. I don't think any girl should value herself at 60-80 Or even 100. To me, that is de-valuing yourself too low.

For every budget there is a provider and for every rate there is a client.

i hope that answers everyone who asked  if it didn't please shoot me a pm or text. 

Kisses!!!!

[MrFister]

Ok to the gentlemen who asked what MY opinion is on the difference between PSE and GFE. My first post on this topic went into it a little bit but I will give how I describe MY personal time and why I call myself PSE besides the obvious of being a pornstar. First it depends on which part of the country you live in as to what people consider PSE or GFE. I always bill as PSE and have run into some problems in certain locations where they consider my activities GFE. Always shocks me lol. 

Thanks for the extended explanation Kyla. I wish it were that simple - it would save a lot of disappointment with first encounters. Reviews don't really communicate what the provider prefers. But I also know services can vary depending on the client/provider connection.

I don't think I'd expect anything close to GFE with a porn star

Edited September 16, 2015 by MrFister
grammar

[bluefuzzyball]

Yes.. Jade Starr is her name. She used to work in Colorado Springs. She was a S&M actress(mostly spanking) which I am not into S&M. LOL. So I didn't partake in her field. LOL. But she was wonderful..

[Sexxy Lex]

 

 

And with this, you just made my immediate TDL! :-)

 

 

Edited September 18, 2015 by Sexxy Lex

[Mtman12384]

I never have but I would sure like to spend some time with Amia Miley.  Her backside is fabulous!!! 

 

[Bora Bora]

I know people that like porn-style sex with their girlfriend/boyfriend. So, for them a Porn Star is the epitome of sublime pleasure and good sex. Or maybe some people just have a PSE preference. Good for them!

 

In my case sex with a girlfriend is something far from porn-style sex. So I never get interested in ads showing PSE. But when I read something like "real GFE" I start looking at reviews and considering her an option. Research is important because GFE means different things for different people.

[Guest]

I know people that like porn-style sex with their girlfriend/boyfriend. So, for them a Porn Star is the epitome of sublime pleasure and good sex. Or maybe some people just have a PSE preference. Good for them!

 

In my case sex with a girlfriend is something far from porn-style sex. So I never get interested in ads showing PSE. But when I read something like "real GFE" I start looking at reviews and considering her an option. Research is important because GFE means different things for different people.

I would agree with this. 

I am not porn starr. But the gentlemen that I have seen enjoy porn stars for many reasons. Some of the reasons are awesome and some are stupid, but there his reasons. I think if you like a porn starr and you wanna see her then you should do it. Try it once you never know vanilla may become a thing of the past.