30 minute or less appointments

[Caressa Duval]

I absolutely understand the confusion here.  I see women all the time that say, 1 hour minimum for new clients,  then a flood of reviews on them flood in on 30 minutes or less. This does not help with consistency. You either offer 30 minutes or less  or  not on your website. Please be constintant or others providers.  

Edited April 24, 2023 by Caressa Duval
wrong word

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

100% agree! A few years ago I offered qv . It is better to stick to your words on your ads and website with  not lower yourself to the hagglers whims of lower rates and time! What it ends up doing is eats at your self esteem! Do what your website says and stand proud! This is your business not the hagglers! Especially, don’t allow new clients to haggle with you! Always redirect prospective clients to read your website. My website says to haggle is to be disrespectful! 
thank you, 

@Caressa Duval ! 

[Caressa Duval]

5 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

100% agree! A few years ago I offered qv . It is better to stick to your words on your ads and website with  not lower yourself to the hagglers whims of lower rates and time! What it ends up doing is eats at your self esteem! Do what your website says and stand proud! This is your business not the hagglers! Especially, don’t allow new clients to haggle with you! Always redirect prospective clients to read your website. My website says to haggle is to be disrespectful! 
thank you, 

@Caressa Duval ! 

Thank you @Kali Sensual Reiki. It's clearly posted to my website my terms.  Again I see women on their website say, 1 hour minimum. Then their reviews are 30 minute sessions, or less. On your Website and advertising and for sure reviews providers have to make sure they are all stating the same services for the same time.  If not,  some people begin to think it is full service and more for under 30 minutes. Either a provider offers 30 minutes on her website or not again! Please don't let reviews on your 30 minutes rendezvous make some clients think they can get that when it is clearly not listed on our website. 

If a provider has multiple 30 minute reviews,  be honest and list it as an option please.

Those SW are only making it hard for the rest of us.

1 inch rule  BTW. I have everything spelled on my site. Most people will not read anymore past 1 inch of words. I have already past my 1 inch thanks again Kali.

[stevie-2249]

You shouldn’t worry about what other providers do with their business 

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

7 minutes ago, stevie-2249 said:

You shouldn’t worry about what other providers do with their business 

No, you are right about the not working part. Yet in a way it all comes back to bite us. As , @Caressa Duval claims we are all in thi together. Especially the established ladies. So and so offers hh so why don’t you? Yeah, baby it is getting old having to explain the time and energy as well as self pride we take that goes into what we do.. Damn, I think it takes quite a bit longer to get ready versus the actual relaxing enjoyment time of time together. How about this, you pay for the time requested and feel free to leave early if you must. If I prepare for the hour and you leave early? Please don’t ask for your money back.  Because it is owed to the companion regardless of how long you stayed. 

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

3 hours ago, stevie-2249 said:

You shouldn’t worry about what other providers do with their business 

You mean, when So and So claims that they and everyone else do half hours and why don't you? I agree it is noise pollution. And can be abusive if these hagglers continue to create new accounts/phone numbers to haggle us companions. And while we are at it, what is up with people asking questions that are clearly written in our websites? Oh, yay, they can only read an inch and then it is all overload with systems shut down😂😂Then these guys are back again asking questions that are clearly written out on our ads and websites. It is difficult at best and these individuals become labled as being time waisters-hagglers! God Bless America! 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Kali Sensual Reiki

[stevie-2249]

All the potential customers you can have? Not everyone can afford a hour long appointment or don’t want one, especially now a days most ladies don’t offer msog, most guys don’t want to know your life story, why not make the first visit 30 min to see if you click or not and then the next a hour if the customer wants? I mean I could go on about why the guys don’t want a hour. 
if a lady says a hour in her ad and wants to do 30 min it shouldn’t bother any other ladies, and a guy isn’t haggling if he wants 30 min instead of a hour, as long as he’s paying you the rate you want, 

[MeganMarie4u]

I want everyone to win no matter if they charge by the minute or the hour. Idc if you want a qv hh hr or longer I support ladies doing their thing and the men being able to spend as much time as they want. Worrying about.other ladies reviews and what their website is a weird thing as a.provider.... but that's just me. Idgaf what your website or reviews say.... as I'm only in competition with myself 😊

[sb1212]

Two scenarios:

A.  Client: " I don't see the donation for 30 minutes on your website. What is the donation, please, for 30 minutes". 

Companion: "I don't offer 30 minute sessions."

End of conversation. 

B. Client: " I don't see the donation for 30 minutes on your website. What is the donation, please, for 30 minutes". 

Companion: "$XXX"

Client: Great! Let's schedule.

I understand stand some guys will continue to push. Shame on them. I also understand that, done respectfully, it doesn't (shouldn't)  hurt to ask.  Many companions dont list a 90 minute rate - my favorite.  So, I ask.....

[Audrey Astor]

I’m not sure what the issue or topic is on this thread. I think most small businesses have their guidelines or processes. Sometimes there are requests that I would not normally accommodate, but I like the person, they asked in a nice way, or I woke up extra amorous today.🤷‍♀️ I’m not sure how my choices affect other providers. Am I missing something here?

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

23 hours ago, sb1212 said:

Two scenarios:

A.  Client: " I don't see the donation for 30 minutes on your website. What is the donation, please, for 30 minutes". 

Companion: "I don't offer 30 minute sessions."

End of conversation. 

B. Client: " I don't see the donation for 30 minutes on your website. What is the donation, please, for 30 minutes". 

Companion: "$XXX"

Client: Great! Let's schedule.

I understand stand some guys will continue to push. Shame on them. I also understand that, done respectfully, it doesn't (shouldn't)  hurt to ask.  Many companions dont list a 90 minute rate - my favorite.  So, I ask.....

More time is usually always appreciated by most of the ladies! @sb1212

I can’t answer for Miss @Caressa Duval. Other than thinking that she was suggesting that Companions should live up to their posted words on their websites and posted ads. Maybe a few of us are falling short? I don’t know. I do my best to live up to my website words as well as my ads. I sure don’t find what she said as being creepy. I think she was really making refrece to clients asking questions that can be read on the companions website or ads. And I think she fears that some ladies are selling themselves short for allowing for short visits and for things that are not posted

 

As  For me and my own thinking, a half hour is not enough time to get to know a lady well enough. A half-hour? It takes me longer to get undressed and get comfortable with my date! 😁

 

@stevie such questions that you have asked? I know it was not directed my way- however, I would never answer such questions unless we were standing together in the same room. Activities of such nature are very private until we physically meet in person. The game is on once you are with me physically with me. This is also when reviews give a great descriptions of what we are individually willing to preform. 

[stevie-2249]

6 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

 

 

@stevie such questions that you have asked? I know it was not directed my way- however, I would never answer such questions unless we were standing together in the same room. Activities of such nature are very private until we physically meet in person. The game is on once you are with me physically with me. This is also when reviews give a great descriptions of what we are individually willing to preform. 

That’s the problem, reviews don’t show anything anymore, it basically shows the lady is legit and they had a good time, price, activities are hardly mentioned anymore, I believe most guys that want to spend a hour with a lady wants certain activities and msog, like I said before most don’t want to learn your life story, we want to play! 
So what’s wrong with going a half hour and finding out if you like a lady and she’s offering what you like? It’s a win win situation, you get paid and he gets to learn about you and if he likes you he books a hour appointment, simple enough.

and the way this economy is these days people are little tighter with their money, something to be aware of.

Edited April 26, 2023 by stevie-2249

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

TOB  needs to develop more bandwidth so they can show us all in action porn with the reviews 😜😜 now that would be wild.

As for seeing a companion who when showing up and she is emotional? Hey, we are human. Some days are rough! Most of us can keep it together, but you just never know. I would (if I was you), open my arms up and tell her to come to Papa Bear, let me give you a big hug! That might be the best thing you can do to help some. Then you both can laugh about the papa bear comment later!!! Just being supportive of her might really establish a great connection. 

We all are feeling the financial problems with this horrible economy too! It sucks! 

Edited April 26, 2023 by Kali Sensual Reiki

[sb1212]

"That’s the problem, reviews don’t show anything anymore, it basically shows the lady is legit and they had a good time, price, activities are hardly mentioned anymore"

2-3 years ago in response to Federal regulation (I dont recall the appropriate acronyms) TOB  made changes to review policies. Looks like you were around then. For a while there were no reviews. Graphic details and pricing are not allowed.  TER has that, but prices are frequently wrong for long time companions and not all of our lovely TOB companions have a presence there. My solution? If you cant get a sense that you will get what you want from multiple reviews, other websites and her website, try messaging prior clients who are TOB  members. Most will reply and help. Your idea of a 30 minute "test drive" seems valid, which brings us back to the original issue of providers who allow/dont allow (or, at least dont advertise)  30 minute sessions. All you can do is respectfully ask and accept the answer. At the end of the day, you are scheduling 60 (or 30, or 90) minutes of fun - not screening a potential wife/roomate/employee. Do the homework, make a decision, accept a little risk. Have fun, rinse and repeat...

 

[2Big]

15 minutes works, too.

[CountryGentleman]

Well, I don't see the point of a 30 min appointment, but that aside...

I agree that if you advertise a minimum, then you should stick to it.

[ilovewomen]

30 minute appointments are for those who want a Wam, Bam, Thank You Mamm appointment.

I see no benefit in that.

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

No, I am NOT trying to hijack @Caressa Duval topic. To be quite honest , most of my calls are at least two hours or more. I interact a great deal with my guys. Dinner, lunch, breakfast, beauty treatments you name it. Brazilian wax, doctor appointments. Oh yes!! Of course,  this is a luxury to come and see us ladies. I get that. And it is not cheap.
        I do remember a topic on here that went further into how much clients appreciate and have learned greatly by being with us companions. “Sure, it started with a roll in the sheets. However now it is SO much more and it just keep on improving! Hell, she is a high-class lady,  and sometimes we just talk on the phone for a bit and I feel so inspired!”(heard someone say). Don’t bother asking who? Not my place to divulge any information on who this might be. 
 

Funny this weekend potential clients contacting me for hh? 😂😂

[MeganMarie4u]

This whole post feels like shots at providers who.provide shorter appointments. NO MATTER WHAT THEIR REASON IS. And it's 10000% a weird flex by the OP who is a provider.... and who is complaining about ladies reviews and how it doesn't match their website. WHO FUCKING CARES! you do you and let everyone else do them. Honestly as a provider... if you have time to read ladies websites to see what they offer and compare it to reviews you need a new hobby imo. 

[Caressa Duval]

Of course, I read many other women's websites.  Clients send their websites to me when they use those ladies as references.  It is very common to send other ladies websites when using them as a reference. I can see that they are using a legitimate woman as a reference. It goes both ways. Men send other ladies my website when they use me as a reference.

This entire topic got derailed.

Every time a new review on a 30 minute posts, on a woman that lists a 1 hour min. I get an influx of emails from guys wondering if I have a secret 30 minute deal.

Trying to negotiate a 30 min, is the same as trying to negotiate my rate. IMO.

That is all this post was about.

I have ZERO issues with women that do 30 minutes or 15 minutes. My all time favorite provider offers even 10 minutes. I love that woman dearly!

I am soooooo over being attacked on this forum, when I simply post an opinion!!!

 

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

5 hours ago, Caressa Duval said:

Of course, I read many other women's websites.  Clients send their websites to me when they use those ladies as references.  It is very common to send other ladies websites when using them as a reference. I can see that they are using a legitimate woman as a reference. It goes both ways. Men send other ladies my website when they use me as a reference.

This entire topic got derailed.

Every time a new review on a 30 minute posts, on a woman that lists a 1 hour min. I get an influx of emails from guys wondering if I have a secret 30 minute deal.

Trying to negotiate a 30 min , is the same as trying to negotiate my rate. IMO.

That is all this post was about.

I have ZERO issues with women that do 30 minutes or 15 minutes. My all time favorite provider offers even 10 minutes. I love that woman dearly!

I am soooooo over being attacked on this forum when I simply post an opinion!!!

 

THIS ^^^ is exactly what I took from your original post to begin with @Caressa Duval.

 I just find it intresting that people missed the boat on your topic and yes what we do does in a round about way becomes affected by all us on some level. 

Here is a funny but true story, guy has been calling me all weekend and his latest question to me was bare back 😂😂😂😂 no no not unprotected sex. He wants a picture of my bare back! I was so confused at first!  What I was needing to do is just listen a bit more to the question. Anyway, I thought it was amusing and funny story  to share! Never have I been asked for a picture of my shoulders and back before. And I am now even understanding how a woman's shoulders and back could be viewed as highly erotic too. 

 

[gnarley_boy12]

On 5/1/2023 at 10:04 AM, MeganMarie4u said:

This whole post feels like shots at providers who.provide shorter appointments. NO MATTER WHAT THEIR REASON IS. And it's 10000% a weird flex by the OP who is a provider.... and who is complaining about ladies reviews and how it doesn't match their website. WHO FUCKING CARES! you do you and let everyone else do them. Honestly as a provider... if you have time to read ladies websites to see what they offer and compare it to reviews you need a new hobby imo. 

Well said!

[Kae Marie]

Some individuals excel best at sprinting hurdles while some excel best at cross country marathons. Some even excel best in full triathlons. There are also those that have the capacity to excel in multiple events.
Know your pace and don’t be afraid to push your limits or pull back when the desire arises. It’s the journey (with grand company) that’s meant for a good time until the next journey begins. Diversity is a delectable spice in life and options are the Salt Bae sprinkle on top. Enjoy your hobbies y’all 🫶🏾 

p.s. FYI- I list my 30/90 rates & expect to be asked about 60. Also, I don’t do social media nor a website as I prefer to encourage in kind engagement (screening hack). But that’s just me 😏

XxKae Marie 

[2Big]

On 1.5.2023 at 8:08 AM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

To be quite honest , most of my calls are at least two hours or more. I interact a great deal with my guys. Dinner, lunch, breakfast, beauty treatments you name it. Brazilian wax, doctor appointments.

Are you their provider or their mother?

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

1 hour ago, 2Big said:

Are you their provider or their mother?

 No, I have  some beautiful clients that go beyond the call of duty. 
 

what do you mean by this below? 

"It feels like something really big is going into something really small"

Asian pornstar "Saber Heart" on her first encounter with Jake Napier.

Edited May 8, 2023 by Kali Sensual Reiki

[Hobby Hobbit -Banned]

On 5/1/2023 at 7:09 PM, Caressa Duval said:

Of course, I read many other women's websites.  Clients send their websites to me when they use those ladies as references.  It is very common to send other ladies websites when using them as a reference. I can see that they are using a legitimate woman as a reference. It goes both ways. Men send other ladies my website when they use me as a reference.

This entire topic got derailed.

Every time a new review on a 30 minute posts, on a woman that lists a 1 hour min. I get an influx of emails from guys wondering if I have a secret 30 minute deal.

Trying to negotiate a 30 min, is the same as trying to negotiate my rate. IMO.

That is all this post was about.

I have ZERO issues with women that do 30 minutes or 15 minutes. My all time favorite provider offers even 10 minutes. I love that woman dearly!

I am soooooo over being attacked on this forum, when I simply post an opinion!!!

The perpetrator a victim. How rich.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Hobby Hobbit

[Hobby Hobbit -Banned]

I knew she had it in her from the moment we locked eyes. Far from pretty with "I don't fuck with scrubs" written all over her face, she was a sexy, little, and I do mean, itty-bitty thing; all four feet nothing 90 lbs soaking wet of her . Smelling and looking divine, rocking designer gear and accessories, she had perfect half-dollar nipples on titties so small she shouldn't wear a bra, ever. And that, fuck me silly if you can look? Fierce. You heard?

Knowing where she worked, I was so taken by her poise and class I struggled to contain my urges as we made our way to the gentleman's club. And as coincidence would have it after so many times of hating to see her leave while loving to watch her walk away, I meant, serve her, I sensed a time and companionship arrangement would work fabulously. Quoting me an hourly rate that had me thinking "DAMN!?", I managed to stammer something coy, OK, stupid, like, "why'd I wait so long?!", to which with a twinkle in her eye she responds, "closed mouths don't get fed". "What about a half-hour at your private residence?", I carefully, perhaps timidly asked. Beaming by then she says, you're free to stay as long as you can. Turning away from me with a wink, I got to imagine heaven parting as she walked away, one more time.

And the beat goes on.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Hobby Hobbit

[Ms T DDD]

On 4/24/2023 at 1:33 AM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

100% agree! A few years ago I offered qv . It is better to stick to your words on your ads and website with  not lower yourself to the hagglers whims of lower rates and time! What it ends up doing is eats at your self esteem! Do what your website says and stand proud! This is your business not the hagglers! Especially, don’t allow new clients to haggle with you! Always redirect prospective clients to read your website. My website says to haggle is to be disrespectful! 
thank you, 

@Caressa Duval ! 

LOL like they actually READ your website!! I ignore a dozen guys a day because they go straight to my contact page and skip over ALL my crucial information and requirements! 

[Ms T DDD]

On 5/1/2023 at 1:09 PM, Caressa Duval said:

Of course, I read many other women's websites.  Clients send their websites to me when they use those ladies as references.  It is very common to send other ladies websites when using them as a reference. I can see that they are using a legitimate woman as a reference. It goes both ways. Men send other ladies my website when they use me as a reference.

This entire topic got derailed.

Every time a new review on a 30 minute posts, on a woman that lists a 1 hour min. I get an influx of emails from guys wondering if I have a secret 30 minute deal.

Trying to negotiate a 30 min, is the same as trying to negotiate my rate. IMO.

That is all this post was about.

I have ZERO issues with women that do 30 minutes or 15 minutes. My all time favorite provider offers even 10 minutes. I love that woman dearly!

I am soooooo over being attacked on this forum, when I simply post an opinion!!!

 

Negotiating at ALL is a way to get blacklisted with me!  I get what you are putting down Caressa.