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[SabrinaLynn aka KatieCreme]

If the YL provides both Escorting And FBSM where should she be advertising? Body rubs or escorts?

[pfunk]

1 hour ago, SabrinaLynn said:

If the YL provides both Escorting And FBSM where should she be advertising? Body rubs or escorts?

My opinion is "Escorts". She should note in her ad she has body rub appointments, and VIP companionship appointments (two different things). Most guys will understand. If they don't understand, it's up to them (the clients) to find out. The could post a 411 here! 

 

[BigBaldBlk]

If you're referring to BP (at one time) you could advertise in both sections of body rubs and escorts, not sure if you can still do this today.  Many FBSM ladies will offer FS to select few gents, and if you lean more towards this way, I would suggest advertising FBSM with maybe notes or asterisk like pfunk suggested. 

IMO, very few FS ladies can pull off quality FBSM

[fishndude57]

6 minutes ago, BigBaldBlk said:

If you're referring to BP (at one time) you could advertise in both sections of body rubs and escorts, not sure if you can still do this today.  Many FBSM ladies will offer FS to select few gents, and if you lean more towards this way, I would suggest advertising FBSM with maybe notes or asterisk like pfunk suggested. 

IMO, very few FS ladies can pull off quality FBSM

I have a tendency to agree with this statement. Otherwise advertise wherever you're allowed. I myself am very particular on who I choose as a masseuse.  

Edited July 8, 2016 by fishndude57
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[SabrinaLynn aka KatieCreme]

4 minutes ago, BigBaldBlk said:

If you're referring to BP (at one time) you could advertise in both sections of body rubs and escorts, not sure if you can still do this today.  Many FBSM ladies will offer FS to select few gents, and if you lean more towards this way, I would suggest advertising FBSM with maybe notes or asterisk like pfunk suggested. 

IMO, very few FS ladies can pull off quality FBSM

That's understandable...There's why a licensed therapist is the way to go...Fun with both world!

[Happymon]

18 hours ago, SabrinaLynn said:

If the YL provides both Escorting And FBSM where should she be advertising? Body rubs or escorts?

Lead with escorting; secondarily body rubs. 

[Kaduk]

On 7/8/2016 at 4:35 PM, SabrinaLynn said:

That's understandable...There's why a licensed therapist is the way to go...Fun with both world!

Just to clarify; One could Advertise on BP Adult links for any or all even at the same time;

•     escorts
•     body rubs
•     strippers & strip clubs
•     dom & fetish
•     ts
•     phone & websites
•     adult jobs

But should not Advertise on BP [ Services---> Massage ] if also Advertising on any of the Adult links.

By definition; Therapeutic Massage would be performed by a licensed qualified Therapist.

 

Legitimate Massage Only.

Any information beyond a  Legitimate Massage would need to be in the form of back channel. (PM’s) ….

AnD I would caution anyone to be careful with any dissemination of information, as this could greatly harm a Therapeutic Masseuse and or CMT in running their Legitimate Business.

On the TOB 411 side of things one can link to a therapeutic Ad but no forum messages, comments pertaining to individual advertisers  beyond the scope of a therapeutic Massage... no questions pertaining to does she or doesn't she offer extra's......

[Real Colorado Guy]

I "asked" the same question a while ago & got blasted for it in my opinion. She posted in body rubs but only offered FS at the time. SMH

[pfunk]

6 hours ago, Real Colorado Guy said:

I "asked" the same question a while ago & got blasted for it in my opinion. She posted in body rubs but only offered FS at the time. SMH

Here's a link to that discussion:

FS vs FBSM donation

[Lucy Kitten]

6 hours ago, Real Colorado Guy said:

I "asked" the same question a while ago & got blasted for it in my opinion. She posted in body rubs but only offered FS at the time. SMH

No you didn't, refer to PFunk's link.

 

[Bit Banger]

21 hours ago, Kaduk said:

... On the TOB411 side of things no names or Ad links would be allowed for [ Services---> Message ] with any questions pertaining to does she or doesn't she offer extra's......

Oh, Kaduk, your text is so kinky. 😜

[Kaduk]

On 7/10/2016 at 9:06 AM, Bit Banger said:

Oh, Kaduk, your text is so kinky. 😜

Here I fixed it for me....

No forum messages pertaining to individuals advertising in the Service---> Massage section of BP,  beyond the scope of a therapeutic Massage...

[SultryKitten]

I post in both the "escort" section, and "Body rub" section with different prices, and then on the phone ask which package specifically that they want. I get more calls from the "body rub" section than the "escort", and am finding it expensive and tedious so I am changing how I am advertising soon to lessen the confusion.

You have to find what works for you, and stick with it. If guys want to be jerks, ignorant, or plain stupid about it...their loss. Some body rub girls do more. The only difference is one focuses on "the wild thing", the other with a massage followed by whatever he/she agrees on.

My issue with this confusion is most body rub girls only do hj, there are few that will do more...and I get categorized all the time with those girls. Most clients from BP are surprised they get more. It is really sad, how guys are getting mad that a girl will provide more for more money?!?! Am I in the Twilight Zone? Do you realize how physical it is to rub somebody down and then more? It is tougher than escorting, let me tell you! I know firsthand, but love to make people feel good with body rubs. It is very rewarding, and yet guys want to pay less for it. Put yourself in our shoes...go rub your lady down then get her off. You will be tired, and it is more draining than just riding her.

Ladies, advertise where you want and how you want to. Guys, see the ladies or don't but please quit griping about the unfairness for something that we do that is very physical and can be very demanding on us financially, emotionally, and physically.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

[SabrinaLynn aka KatieCreme]

Thank you Samantha...Very well put..All these answers are Very helpful..Looks like I'll be doing some editing.😜

[Happymon]

15 hours ago, SultryKitten said:

please quit griping about the unfairness for something that we do that is very physical and can be very demanding on us financially, emotionally, and physically.

 

 

 

 

 

A sensual body rub can be much more intimate and erotic than straight sex.  Personally, I enjoy giving more than receiving but, I don't enjoy giving enough to pay someone solely to give them an erotic massage.   With a straight massage, I generally doze off somewhere in there. A good, non-erotic masseuse is substantially less/hour than most escorts. Therein lies the confusion for many guys I think.  Lack of experience. Probably with both.  That said, in my experience, girls that are really good are few and far between.  However, if I were confident in my skills, I'd likely charge what the market would bear for either. I'd also try to be clear in my advertising. 

[amcbl1]

On 7/8/2016 at 4:29 PM, BigBaldBlk said:

If you're referring to BP (at one time) you could advertise in both sections of body rubs and escorts, not sure if you can still do this today.  Many FBSM ladies will offer FS to select few gents, and if you lean more towards this way, I would suggest advertising FBSM with maybe notes or asterisk like pfunk suggested. 

IMO, very few FS ladies can pull off quality FBSM

I've noticed a few ladies that advertise in both the body rub and escort sections of BP. Yet when one scrutinizes the post from the lady in the escort section, the posts usually imply that they only offer FBSM. There is one gal who posts in both sections who is notorious for not providing FS or even a decent FBSM. One reviewer asked her why she posts in the escort section when she obviously doesn't provide FS, she stated "because she can".

I've previously brought up the final point in another post but I can't recall where or when it was.  I was tempted a long time ago to see that lady until I saw her review. For those who are curious who the "because she can" lady is, PM me, since I haven't actually seen the lady in question, I can't submit a review on her.

Edited July 13, 2016 by amcbl1

[Lucy Kitten]

12 hours ago, amcbl1 said:

I've noticed a few ladies that advertise in both the body rub and escort sections of BP. Yet when one scrutinizes the post from the lady in the escort section, the posts usually imply that they only offer FBSM. There is one gal who posts in both sections who is notorious for not providing FS or even a decent FBSM. One reviewer asked her why she posts in the escort section when she obviously doesn't provide FS, she stated "because she can".

I've previously brought up the final point in another post but I can't recall where or when it was.  I was tempted a long time ago to see that lady until I saw her review. For those who are curious who the "because she can" lady is, PM me, since I haven't actually seen the lady in question, I can't submit a review on her.

Before you decide to hurt her business because you've never seen her and think what she does is wrong consider this, she's right. "Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for,  it's what you have assumed them to be. FBSM and FS providers are two halves of the same coin. They are different paths to the same destination. Escorting by definition from BP implies time and companionship and it is expressly forbidden to explicitly advertise otherwise. Which means that FBSM ladies are free to advertise there.

TOB ads are all just in one spot, should they separate them out and force ladies to post in the right area based on activities offered? What you want to enforce as some sort of rule isn't a rule. It's a helpful guideline but by no means punishable with ugly back channel whispers. There is absolutely nothing in the rules for posting on BP about where FBSM ladies can advertise. Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site especially for a paid site. Ladies pay for the ads and follow the rules of that site. Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong.  Also BackPage ads are expensive, $3 an hour. So for anyone considering flagging an ad because you think it's in the wrong spot you''re hurting their finances and ability to find business.

I am curious to know why you are hell bent on sharing with others who this is. Especially since you haven't met them. That's petty and totally unnecessary. What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion about where ladies are advertising and punish those who don't share that same opinion. If we follow these not set in stone guidelines why is it so hard to believe that someone who advertises FBSM is not full service regardless of where the ad shows up?

Sharing "knowledge" without firsthand experience is uncouth.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Lucy Kitten
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[contrails]

1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Before you decide to hurt her business because you've never seen her and think what she does is wrong consider this, she's right. "Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for,  it's what you have assumed them to be. FBSM and FS providers are two halves of the same coin. They are different paths to the same destination. Escorting by definition from BP implies time and companionship and it is expressly forbidden to explicitly advertise otherwise. Which means that FBSM ladies are free to advertise there.

TOB ads are all just in one spot, should they separate them out and force ladies to post in the right area based on activities offered? What you want to enforce as some sort of rule isn't a rule. It's a helpful guideline but by no means punishable with ugly back channel whispers. There is absolutely nothing in the rules for posting on BP about where FBSM ladies can advertise. Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site especially for a paid site. Ladies pay for the ads and follow the rules of that site. Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong.  Also BackPage ads are expensive, $3 an hour. So for anyone considering flagging an ad because you think it's in the wrong spot you''re hurting their finances and ability to find business.

I am curious to know why you are hell bent on sharing with others who this is. Especially since you haven't met them. That's petty and totally unnecessary. What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion about where ladies are advertising and punish those who don't share that same opinion. If we follow these not set in stone guidelines why is it so hard to believe that someone who advertises FBSM is not full service regardless of where the ad shows up?

Sharing "knowledge" without firsthand experience is uncouth.

Comical...but so completely typical from you. Nearly ever word is Lucy oral diarrhea but ....I just love these quotes: 

"think what she does is wrong"

I know who he is talking about and she is fraud. Yes I did ask and I'm glad he responded. Turns out she is one of three I suspected  

"Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for"

ummm  yes it is  

"means punishable with ugly back channel whispers."

Like the ugly back channel whispers you have made about other providers? 

"Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong."

Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong. That's not a duplicate sentence. Maybe that went over your head. Probably did  

"Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site"

Yet you are trying....oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right  

"What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion"

Wtf are you doing? Oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right

Get off your pulpit for awhile. You might even actually attract more business.

 

[MrReindeer-9515]

1 hour ago, contrails said:

Comical...but so completely typical from you. Nearly ever word is Lucy oral diarrhea but ....I just love these quotes: 

"think what she does is wrong"

I know who he is talking about and she is fraud. Yes I did ask and I'm glad he responded. Turns out she is one of three I suspected  

"Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for"

ummm  yes it is  

"means punishable with ugly back channel whispers."

Like the ugly back channel whispers you have made about other providers? 

"Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong."

Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong. That's not a duplicate sentence. Maybe that went over your head. Probably did  

"Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site"

Yet you are trying....oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right  

"What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion"

Wtf are you doing? Oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right

Get off your pulpit for awhile. You might even actually attract more business.

 

I ran this garbage through the Hobby Forum Post Translator, this is what came back:

"Lucy called me out for being the racist Islamophobe that I am and made me look stupid. Not to be outdone, I would like to post this screed, and remove all doubt!"

[contrails]

34 minutes ago, MrReindeer-9515 said:

I ran this garbage through the Hobby Forum Post Translator, this is what came back:

"Lucy called me out for being the racist Islamophobe that I am and made me look stupid. Not to be outdone, I would like to post this screed, and remove all doubt!"

Ran your atypical sucking up to the escorts post through the translator and it came back with:

"Groveling in vain to get a freebie after all these years"

 

[SultryKitten]

16 hours ago, amcbl1 said:

I've noticed a few ladies that advertise in both the body rub and escort sections of BP. Yet when one scrutinizes the post from the lady in the escort section, the posts usually imply that they only offer FBSM. There is one gal who posts in both sections who is notorious for not providing FS or even a decent FBSM. One reviewer asked her why she posts in the escort section when she obviously doesn't provide FS, she stated "because she can".

I've previously brought up the final point in another post but I can't recall where or when it was.  I was tempted a long time ago to see that lady until I saw her review. For those who are curious who the "because she can" lady is, PM me, since I haven't actually seen the lady in question, I can't submit a review on her.

Take in consideration as well that if you ask a girl if she does "blank or blank" that we might think you are a cop trying to implicate us, and we will say, "No!" in response. If you can't do your homework, and know what a lady provides then you either take a gamble and hope you get lucky, or you don't see her, but don't be implicating her because you were being crass, and asking things you KNOW you shouldn't be asking.

Now, if a lady is ripping guys off then let the guys that can say with certainty(because they have seen her), that she is not doing what she says she provides. There is no reason you need to be making ASSumptions when you haven't done anything but talked to the lady in question. Lastly, remember that reviews are written by various people and not based on fact...so what one person's experience is going to be is not going to be the same for another.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

[SultryKitten]

13 minutes ago, contrails said:

Ran your atypical sucking up to the escorts post through the translator and it came back with:

"Groveling in vain to get a freebie after all these years"

 

Boy, that'll be the day when I see MrReindeer sucking up to a provider(and I mean this in a sincere compliment to you, MrReindeer)! Is this a Twilight episode AGAIN?! ;-D

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

[contrails]

1 minute ago, SultryKitten said:

Boy, that'll be the day when I see MrReindeer sucking up to a provider(and I mean this in a sincere compliment to you, MrReindeer)! Is this a Twilight episode AGAIN?! ;-D

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

There's your freebie Reindeer! Congrats 

[SultryKitten]

1 minute ago, contrails said:

There's your freebie Reindeer! Congrats 

Oh darling, Reindeer has never complimented me ever in any post I heve ever written, and  I'm okay with it! We can't all agree on the same thing, but that is what makes the world go 'round. :-) Lighten up hon, this is an adult board made so people can state their opinions and then destress behind closed doors. Isn't this hobby great?

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

[contrails]

9 minutes ago, SultryKitten said:

Oh darling, Reindeer has never complimented me ever in any post I heve ever written, and  I'm okay with it! We can't all agree on the same thing, but that is what makes the world go 'round. :-) Lighten up hon, this is an adult board made so people can state their opinions and then destress behind closed doors. Isn't this hobby great?

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

Love the hobby.

[Lucy Kitten]

4 hours ago, contrails said:

Comical...but so completely typical from you. Nearly ever word is Lucy oral diarrhea but ....I just love these quotes: 

"think what she does is wrong"

I know who he is talking about and she is fraud. Yes I did ask and I'm glad he responded. Turns out she is one of three I suspected  

"Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for"

ummm  yes it is  

"means punishable with ugly back channel whispers."

Like the ugly back channel whispers you have made about other providers? 

"Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong."

Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong. That's not a duplicate sentence. Maybe that went over your head. Probably did  

"Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site"

Yet you are trying....oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right  

"What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion"

Wtf are you doing? Oh wait the rule of Lucy allows this. Right

Get off your pulpit for awhile. You might even actually attract more business.

 

 

Whatever. The fact remains that the rule that is trying to be enforced is imaginary. The reality is that these ladies pay for their advertising and abide by that site's rules. Not liking the rules is a matter of opinion. It's not Lucy's Law. I can post the rules for advertising on BP but there's no point, it's not an adult website, it's a classified site that allows adult advertising. They do not abide by the rules of the "hobby". No matter how badly you would like to enforce it.

You sure like to trash talk ladies you've never seen before. I sense a pattern. But no hard feelings, it's obvious that I've won because you had to stoop to mentioning my business which apparently was easier than considering another perspective or the actual truth. Between the two of us it's obvious who has the loose tongue and it certainly isn't me.

Respectful gentlemen would ignore your PM offers.

[Kali Sensual Reiki]

On 7/13/2016 at 0:19 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

Before you decide to hurt her business because you've never seen her and think what she does is wrong consider this, she's right. "Traditional" penetrative sex is not what the escort listings are for,  it's what you have assumed them to be. FBSM and FS providers are two halves of the same coin. They are different paths to the same destination. Escorting by definition from BP implies time and companionship and it is expressly forbidden to explicitly advertise otherwise. Which means that FBSM ladies are free to advertise there.

TOB ads are all just in one spot, should they separate them out and force ladies to post in the right area based on activities offered? What you want to enforce as some sort of rule isn't a rule. It's a helpful guideline but by no means punishable with ugly back channel whispers. There is absolutely nothing in the rules for posting on BP about where FBSM ladies can advertise. Outsiders can't enforce rules for a site especially for a paid site. Ladies pay for the ads and follow the rules of that site. Just because you think its wrong doesn't actually make it wrong.  Also BackPage ads are expensive, $3 an hour. So for anyone considering flagging an ad because you think it's in the wrong spot you''re hurting their finances and ability to find business.

I am curious to know why you are hell bent on sharing with others who this is. Especially since you haven't met them. That's petty and totally unnecessary. What you're trying to enforce is personal opinion about where ladies are advertising and punish those who don't share that same opinion. If we follow these not set in stone guidelines why is it so hard to believe that someone who advertises FBSM is not full service regardless of where the ad shows up?

Sharing "knowledge" without firsthand experience is uncouth.

Gawds that is perfect how you stated it Lucy Kitten! 

When I post on BP I also post in both sections. Regardless on why you come to see me you will always receive FS and FBMS because with me it all pretty much just flows out.of me. I was thinking about posting today on there and even went and got a card for doing so, but while in line to pay for a new card I got a call. Thinking. Maybe later on today I will post on there. It's been a couple of weeks for me. Kind of enjoying the low volume. What about posting on P411? Any success with that site for anyone?

 

[contrails]

On July 13, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

 

Whatever. The fact remains that the rule that is trying to be enforced is imaginary. The reality is that these ladies pay for their advertising and abide by that site's rules. Not liking the rules is a matter of opinion. It's not Lucy's Law. I can post the rules for advertising on BP but there's no point, it's not an adult website, it's a classified site that allows adult advertising. They do not abide by the rules of the "hobby". No matter how badly you would like to enforce it.

You sure like to trash talk ladies you've never seen before. I sense a pattern. But no hard feelings, it's obvious that I've won because you had to stoop to mentioning my business which apparently was easier than considering another perspective or the actual truth. Between the two of us it's obvious who has the loose tongue and it certainly isn't me.

Respectful gentlemen would ignore your PM offers.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Just argumentative? Like being on a throne of supposed self proclaimed knowledge? Or are you just a truly dim bulb? 

Rules of advertising blah blah blah blah blah adlucynauseam. You (and Kali)  continue to miss the entire point of the original poster about the woman in question. It's a form of bait and switch  

Trash talk lady's? Ummm are you clairvoyant or a soothsayer? Just how the fuck do you make a statement I have never seen the woman in question before? 

Stoop to mentioning your "business"? Lmao at that one! 

Loose tongue? Do you know how many pm's I have gotten about you and your reputation within the community and other providers? Wait how foolish of me.....of course you know! 

And the creme de la creme. My PM offers? I was responding to his offer. That's reading comprehension 101.

Edited July 17, 2016 by contrails

[pfunk]

2 hours ago, contrails said:

 It's a form of bait and switch  

No it's not, IMHO. Obviously, you believe your OPINION is the correct one. However, there are no rules about where an escort can post, or an FBSM provider can post. If there are, please post a link!

Insulting someone you disagree with is the mark of the ignorant. You really are a rude fool. 

[contrails]

4 hours ago, pfunk said:

No it's not, IMHO. Obviously, you believe your OPINION is the correct one. However, there are no rules about where an escort can post, or an FBSM provider can post. If there are, please post a link!

Insulting someone you disagree with is the mark of the ignorant. You really are a rude fool. 

Lmfao.....comical

My opinion works for me and it is what I experienced with the particular provider. So yes it was bait and switch. Don't like my opinion? Tough. Speaking of rules...seems to me someone else has been spouting off perceived rules quite a bit on this thread. It's not about rules either but common sense in where said provider posts. Something woefully short with a few on here  

>>Insulting someone you disagree with is the mark of the ignorant. You really are a rude fool. <<

You do realize you just did that to yourself right? Maybe not. If you're lucky maybe Lucy will give you and Reindeer a discount for throwing your .2 in. 

Oh and her pictures are easily well over 10 probably 15 years old and easily 30 to 40 pounds lighter. Are you going to argue that part of bait and switch as well? 

Curious, 6,187 posts on an escort board? Lol

 

Edited July 17, 2016 by contrails