When is old too old?

[The Wise Old Owl]

As an older hobbyist, I am often torn between my desire and my ability to pursue that desire. I find that often my thoughts can't keep up with the impending actions, as I think I can, but the body fails me when the time arises. I often see beautiful young ladies here and on BP I would love to see in person, but self doubt interferes with the process of contacting them, and setting up a date. I don't know if my health and my financial situation contribute to my apprehensions, but they are a concern. And I don't desire to see young women young enough to be my grandaughters, and generally find more mature women more appealling to me. Here is my problem in a nut shell:

Am I too old to see young women in their twenties?

(For reference, I REMEMBER THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION.)

Am I too old to see young women in their thirties?

(I really enjoy their company and their skills at that age).

Should I be seeing ladies in their forties only?

(I respect their abilities and maturity, and they are very sexy).

Should I be sticking to women nearer my own age, fifty +?

(Still vital and desirable, and accepting of my limitations.)

Any assistance and advice the members can provide would be most helpful.

Thank you for your attention.

THE Wise Old Owl

You're never too old to ride the Merry-Go-Round,

But you need to know when it's time to get off.

[pitbull]

Fascinating question...I suppose part of the attraction of the hobby is that you can be with women younger and much more hot than you. However, it sounds like you are uncomfortable with the younger ladies.

As for whether you can keep up with them in bed, well, you are paying them and you don't necessarily need to keep up. Remember in Klute, a young Jane Fonda just strutted around naked for her much older client, telling him stories of her adventures. They never had sex.

As to whether you "should" avoid very young ladies, well, I think you should avoid them. I think it's cruel to subject a 22-year-old to the prurient interest of an old man. The thought grosses me out and depresses me. If you were in fantastic shape, that might make a difference.

Yeah, they can say no. I understand that. I also understand that the mere fact that old men at the gym gross me out does not necessarily mean they will gross her out. I'm one of those people who can't fathom how in the world any of the ladies do it. Bottom line is that if you feel uncomfortable with the youngsters, go with the ladies in their 50s. They will be more understanding of your age limitations, and you may have a better time. And of course, most ladies who list their age as 42 are 52 anyway, right?

[inkspot]

I my humble opinion, I find the ladies 40 +, (i.e. they advertise as being in their 30's), are better company and more patient with problems your situation presents. They are more mature and can relate more to our era. The 20 somethings still turn my head but I find we do not have anything in common other than being in bed together.

One provider I see frequently has a client in his 80's. She said sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, they sit on the bed and just talk. The companionship goes a long way with a mature provider.

[pitbull]

I my humble opinion, I find the ladies 40 +, (i.e. they advertise as being in their 30's), are better company and more patient with problems your situation presents. They are more mature and can relate more to our era. The 20 somethings still turn my head but I find we do not have anything in common other than being in bed together.

One provider I see frequently has a client in his 80's. She said sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, they sit on the bed and just talk. The companionship goes a long way with a mature provider.

Yeah, I think they will always turn my head also, Ink. One FBSM provider I see frequently has a 90-year-old client, and I'm fairly sure she said that he does, in fact, have an orgasm. The great thing about FBSM is that it truly is "all about you" -- you don't have to "perform" and you don't have to have an orgasm per se.

[Guest]

I struggle with the same concerns as you. As I approach 60, I try to be aware of how the poor ladies percieve me, and what I am capable of performing. For example, all my desires to the contrary, MSOG now requires a full nights sleep between shots.

Here is a formula I have used which generally gives me good results:

Dates: One hour, or Dinner + one hour, or overnight.

Minimum age: (My age/2) + 7 - (my best guess at hooker math applied)

Thus, at 60, I would contact a provider who advertises a minimum age of 32, If I believe she has removed 5 years from her age. Meaning I would be seeing a lady who was at least 37.

I have gone a little below this. The ladies were poliely nice, but obviously not really into me.

[Guest]

There is no SHOULD for all of any group. Personally, as a woman I'm my early 30's...I like my foxes to be silver, and cannot get too into anyone younger.than me. Some.may call it an issue, but over here it just feels right. Do whatever you want to do.

[Hvnaball2]

I can't seem to help myself. I'm going to have to weigh in your question:

I don't think there is any social etiquette or mathematical answer. There's too many variables. Obviously, it does depend on your personal physical condition. Both from a performance and an attractiveness standpoint. Just as important, it depends on the provider. That's a variable you can't possibly anticipate until you meet. Regardless of the obvious economics of the transaction (we're paying customers, right?!), I've found vast differences in how I'm perceived and treated.

I have met women in their later 20's that have been (seemingly) genuine in their appreciation of me, and others that I can only assume are either indifferent or even put off by the age difference. Women in their later 30's and 40's almost always seem unaffected by the age difference. Which would I rather see? (This is where I hold my breath and wait for the barrage) - I DON'T KNOW!!

It's the same dilemma! It's not about age - it's about the connection you have with another human being. F--- the age issue, find providers that make you feel good about yourself, provide you with the things you crave, and live life as fully as you can as long as you can!

Thank you!

[Paul Pudenda]

I don't worry about this much. It's a business transaction. I'm not asking anyone to spend the rest of time with me - just a small sliver of it, for which she is rather well compensated. If someone can't handle it for an hour or so, she's in the wrong business.

[Paul Pudenda]

There is no SHOULD for all of any group. Personally, as a woman I'm my early 30's...I like my foxes to be silver, and cannot get too into anyone younger.than me. Some.may call it an issue, but over here it just feels right. Do whatever you want to do.

Very well said, Brandy. And much appreciated!

[gr8owl]

Until you are dead you are not too old. If you still enjoy intimacy with a female - in any of its many forms - and you remain a clean, polite, no haggle client there will be plenty of these special ladies willing to take your money and show you a good time. I plan to rock on till they plant me. You should too, and why limit yourself to ANY age except legal?

[Guest]

There is no SHOULD for all of any group. Personally, as a woman I'm my early 30's...I like my foxes to be silver, and cannot get too into anyone younger.than me. Some.may call it an issue, but over here it just feels right. Do whatever you want to do.

LOL, you're just outside of the parameters of my formula.

I've been looking at your posts on Eccie, and they make me want to believe!

[Guest]

Well, Laplace...If you had ever had a taste...I highly doubt your parameters would remain the same.

[Guest]

I my humble opinion, I find the ladies 40 +, (i.e. they advertise as being in their 30's), are better company and more patient with problems your situation presents. They are more mature and can relate more to our era. The 20 somethings still turn my head but I find we do not have anything in common other than being in bed together.

One provider I see frequently has a client in his 80's. She said sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, they sit on the bed and just talk. The companionship goes a long way with a mature provider.

I advertise early 30's because I'm proud of my age. If I am around when I'm in my 40's I'll probably still list the truth if I'm still rocking it.

I also have a client in their later 80's and genuinely enjoy his company. Believe it or not, we share common interest. Since I love history and have had the opportunities to travel overseas, I find that I hold conversations better with those much older than me. Doesn't mean I don't have a good time with those closer to my age...but I realize that some really are looking for intellectual stimulation paired with sexual vs *just physical*.

I think it all goes back to: to each their own

[Bit Banger]

I remember the Eisenhower inauguration(1st one). I generally prefer gals 30+. Their maturity enhances the experience. (I have had good experiences with escorts who could remember the Truman administration.). Sometimes the flesh is frail, but I still enjoy a lady's company, her embrace.

So rock on until they plant you!!!

[Guest]

I generally prefer gals 30+. Their maturity enhances the experience. (I have had good experiences with escorts who could remember the Truman administration.). Sometimes the flesh is frail, but I still enjoy a lady's company, her embrace.

So rock on until they plant you!!!

I agree with Bit Banger and Gr8owl.

There is no set formula.

When you find a provider that fits your parameters (and needs), you will have a treasure beyond compare.

(At least for an hour or two. wink wink)

Johnboy#1

[fork]

As long as she doesn't mind that I'm older than her, I don't mind.

I rarely see women my own age, just because I'm an immature fucker who is too hung up on looks, still. Looking forward to growing up but not there yet.

[ItatIsawAPuddyTat]

LOL, bud: whatever makes you happy!! Look, I am pushing 50...I am the most comfortable with women in their 40's. If I am looking for the "young" thing...a woman in her 30's makes me feel like a stud. This may have to do with my past...when I was in my 20's I had a partner, and so have no fantasies about 20-year old women (been there done that)...In my 30's I was single and devoted to my career (so I still have fantasies about women in their 30's)....Just have to say that I have the most fun with women in their 40's

[Vegas Jen-5884]

I am a bit surprised more ladies haven't chimed in on this... I concur wholeheartedly with Brandy... Then again, I now rank up there with the age group that isn't supposed to care, lol. But, I enjoyed the company of older men in my 20's as well. In fact, I was a bit awestruck by them and mesmerized by their (perceived) experience and maturity... So I say relax and find a lady you simply enjoy and forget the age factor altogether...

On a side note, with all this new 'math' I am now confused as to how old I actually am... If I am 43 should I be listing 33, or 38? Or am I actually 53 and misplaced 10 years along the way somewhere, lol???

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[inkspot]

I am a bit surprised more ladies haven't chimed in on this... I concur wholeheartedly with Brandy... Then again, I now rank up there with the age group that isn't supposed to care, lol. But, I enjoyed the company of older men in my 20's as well. In fact, I was a bit awestruck by them and mesmerized by their (perceived) experience and maturity... So I say relax and find a lady you simply enjoy and forget the age factor altogether...

On a side note, with all this new 'math' I am now confused as to how old I actually am... If I am 43 should I be listing 33, or 38? Or am I actually 53 and misplaced 10 years along the way somewhere, lol???

If you are 43, then listing your age at 27 would be pretty accurate around here.

[pitbull]

I am a bit surprised more ladies haven't chimed in on this... I concur wholeheartedly with Brandy... Then again, I now rank up there with the age group that isn't supposed to care, lol. But, I enjoyed the company of older men in my 20's as well. In fact, I was a bit awestruck by them and mesmerized by their (perceived) experience and maturity... So I say relax and find a lady you simply enjoy and forget the age factor altogether...

On a side note, with all this new 'math' I am now confused as to how old I actually am... If I am 43 should I be listing 33, or 38? Or am I actually 53 and misplaced 10 years along the way somewhere, lol???

If you list your age at 43, we will all assume you are 55.

[Vegas Jen-5884]

Im pretty sure no matter what I put someone will always think I'm lying. So I am not going to worry about it. :-)

[irisheyes]

Since my 20's I've been called an "old soul" just because I seem to relate more to older men and women......I just feel like they have more to talk about, share, and of course wisdom, being somewhere in the middle now, it's still the same, but, I've also met younger "old souls" to. I don't get caught up in age factors.

[Guest]

I prefer older men as well, always have. My oldest client was 92. He didn't get an erection but he was able to orgasm. Even back then he called me because I had the patience he needed and we had some amazing conversations.

I am hearing more and more from my gentlemen callers that they prefer the 35+ crowd because they have (Forbidden topic) in their 20's so they feel icky about it. I have also heard that us older ladies have better conversational skills and better skills elsewhere.

SO, while some guys want the 20 somethings or even younger(eek) I am going to be proud of my 40. Plus I am blessed to not look my age, which means no hooker math for me. I get accused of lying about my age because I look younger.

I think I enjoy the behind closed doors activities more now than I did in my twenties. There is so much more to sex than just getting off and the older gents take their time to get there. They have honed their skills and know what to do.

[Happymon]

I too remember the Eisenhower administration. Generally fondly I might add, but for the absurd practice of hiding beneath our desks in case of nuclear attack.

Here's my difficulty in responding to your post: By my count you've laid out better than a half dozen very different issues including but not limited to: erectile dysfunction, self confidence, social stigma, fear of what others might think of you, financial constraints, indecision, discomfort with aging and difficulty prioritizing. My advice would be to spend some time sorting out what's really going on inside your noggin with a skilled professional. Worrying about which ASP to call is pole vaulting over mouse turds.

[Lucy Kitten]

Age isn't just a number and it should be a determining factor when making choices to see or date someone. There isn't a strict formula but if you are 50+ than 25 and under probably isn't the best choice. I always liked the half your age plus seven rule.

I have always been one of those women who enjoys the company of an older man but the age of that man fluctuates. I prefer a man who is 10-15 years older than I am but these days I kind of prefer (for personal fun) men that were born in the 70s. I like having things in common with people and being able to talk about the things I enjoy without lots of explanation. Mutual interests make for better intimate time as well.

If "sticking it" to young hot women is a preference, I get it kinda, but it's really more about soothing the carnal desires than anything else. It's objectifying and I actually have sympathy for young and hot because the type of men they have to deal with. Even if it is for money being desired for you bod is taxing on the mind after a while.

The answer of course is do what you're comfortable with but consider all factors before making a choice. There are sometimes when the age difference just feels weird.

[Lucy Kitten]

I my humble opinion, I find the ladies 40 +, (i.e. they advertise as being in their 30's), are better company and more patient with problems your situation presents. They are more mature and can relate more to our era. The 20 somethings still turn my head but I find we do not have anything in common other than being in bed together.

One provider I see frequently has a client in his 80's. She said sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, they sit on the bed and just talk. The companionship goes a long way with a mature provider.

I read an article years ago that stuck with me. It was about higher priced, upper scale escorts and this article claimed that the higher the price point the less activity actually went on. I can believe this, most of the women who had achieved this level in their business were over 30 and most of their clients over 50. These men wanted to spend time with an attractive well groomed, well spoken and intelligent/educated woman and the women had reached a point in their lives where they could happily oblige.

There is this huge division among men and what they desire from a provider the younger and more virile want the physical activity and those older and lacking in energy seek out companions. There are of course some who want both but generally I find that men fall on either side of that fence.

The older I get the little bit older my clientele gets and more and more interest is based on the personality I display than the pictures that I share.

[Guest]

Thanks for being so self-revealing, Mr Owl.

And, thanks to all the contributors to this conversation.

What have I gleaned:

As we age, it's mostly about companionship, intimacy, and stimulation above the neck.

Second, but still valuable, is stimulation below the neck.

Third, it may be about satisfying a fantasy -- and I hope I still have them when I'm 90!

I love telling the story about a lady friend who had a client who was 90.

He told her: "My dick works better than my knees."

Good luck and happy hunting, Mr Wise Owl!

Since you are also worried about your financial situation, I wish you the biggest bang for the buck.

[Guest]

The largest sex organ in the body is the brain.

[snowmanmc]

"My dick works better than my knees."

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I have the same issue as this 90 year old and I'm in my 40s.

[pitbull]

Im pretty sure no matter what I put someone will always think I'm lying. So I am not going to worry about it. :-)

I believe you, Vegas Jen, but verification in person would probably be the logical thing to do...