Why Would Anyone Use Viagra?

[2Big]

After reading this article:

http://www.vogue.com/13263476/breathless-karley-sciortino-viagra/

I did some digging around and found this;

I think I'll take my chances with a healthy diet and exercise and skip the myriads of side effects.

[fork]

So you found some video of some guy who says Viagra is bad, please buy my vitamins and "essential" oils instead. That's really convincing.

I'm healthy, fit, active, and with a good diet, and yeah, I have trouble sometimes so I take Cialis. I don't have any side effects, and it works. That's good enough for me.

[pitbull]

I don't use Viagra, but I know the stuff is clinically proven with actual double-blind trials. Essential oils and vitamins are bullshit. A 2Big schvonstooka is of no use if it's not standing at attention. When the vagaries of old age hit, and you hit your "stunning decline," you may be looking for many pharmaceutical aids. Just be glad they're there.

[2Big]

So you found some video of some guy

You must be the other guy.

[Guest]

ED meds are needed for some guys, especially as they age. If a guy is in his 20's or 30's he shouldn't need them. The article pointed out that having sex with a robo cock is not fun, this is so true. Us ladies do not need to have sex for hours on end, in fact, it gets painful. I would much rather take our time and figure out how to turn each other on. Granted, I have NO problem with the older guys using it, but the younger ones need to stay away. I can only speak for myself here, but it is not about the duration of the event that impresses us, it's how you pay attention to what turns a girl on, and her turning you on. There are SO many ways to get a motor running....it's called foreplay. Even if an older gent needs some help, if he is confident in bed, that is a huge turn on. If he is having fun and enjoying the lady he is with, that is a turn on. If he is there for marathon sex, not so much of a turn on. Then again, we are there to provide a service and we're getting paid. I find most of my guys like me to have fun as well.

[Guest]

So a 90 yo man in a nursing home was found to be taking Viagra. The nurse asked him why. He responded: "I take it so I won't piss on my feet." <ba dum CHING>

[Milos Vesely]

When you're with a hooker, you're on the clock and can't waste a minute cuddling, spooning, etc. Gotta hit msog. Viagra is the fuel for that rocket.

[Flanker]

ED meds are needed for some guys, especially as they age. If a guy is in his 20's or 30's he shouldn't need them. The article pointed out that having sex with a robo cock is not fun, this is so true. Us ladies do not need to have sex for hours on end, in fact, it gets painful. I would much rather take our time and figure out how to turn each other on. Granted, I have NO problem with the older guys using it, but the younger ones need to stay away. I can only speak for myself here, but it is not about the duration of the event that impresses us, it's how you pay attention to what turns a girl on, and her turning you on. There are SO many ways to get a motor running....it's called foreplay. Even if an older gent needs some help, if he is confident in bed, that is a huge turn on. If he is having fun and enjoying the lady he is with, that is a turn on. If he is there for marathon sex, not so much of a turn on. Then again, we are there to provide a service and we're getting paid. I find most of my guys like me to have fun as well.

Perfect post!!! As al "older guy" I absolutely agree. I use V and it works great. I also like to make sure BOTH of us enjoy.:)

[Ghost_Rider]

"if you experience an erection lasting more than 4 hours, seek medical attention, like a good looking nurse."

[Guest Birdie]

This is the one time I have to side with 2Big.

While I do practice holistic measures in my personal life; it is a very unregulated system/avenue that any "snake oil" company can jump on...and a lot of people end up in the Emergency Room having severe to life threatening effects from taking some supplement, herb; and, even diets that can alter your liver, kidney functions and can be life threatening.

However...Erectile Dysfunction (ED) can be caused by several different reasons.

Performance anxiety, situation and, self confidence. Most all men have the story of finally meeting the most gorgeous woman and the little man decided not to participate. Or in a situation that was "shady" (e.g., bad location, threat of getting caught, the conscience taking over) and, the little man again, made the decision:(

The question is, what is an erection? It is concentrated, momentary blood flow to the penis, a localized appendage. this function is dependent on the cardiovascular system and health of the individual.

"If an erection lasting longer than..." it is a serious issue and, it does happen with or without pills. If those tissues, cells fill up with blood and not released, returned to the vascular system within a short amount of time...a person could lose that appendage due to lack of circulation. (and some reading this just lost an erection at that thought-sorry:o

My point is, while the pharmaceuticals do work, it is not without huge risk to the same cardiovascular system that supports life and an erection. All ingested chemicals come with side effects and risk. In this case getting an erection by chemically forcing the cardiovascular system to comply...your also inducing a side effect to your cardiovascular system that your dependent on to live?

While there are numerous studies supporting the beneficial effects of ED medications; the same studies are designed and limited to variables (age, previous health, duration of observation). So if you fit the studied criteria of relatively healthy male, 20-45, with no cardiovascular history-great the drugs work for you, for the intended, prescribed effect.

The median hobbyist is 40-75 years, and most likely has not been diagnosed with cardiovascular disease (most men aren't until they have had an emergency room incident). Than there is the percentage who know, have been diagnosed with cardiovascular problems...and roll the dice anyway. The idea of sex in of its self evokes such chemical, hormonal reaction-that's a big risk to some guys right there-add sexy woman, risk of getting caught; that only adds greater physical strain/risk to a heart patient...add a ingested chemical that actually aggravates your system to create excessive blood flow to an appendage...it is common sense roulette.

However, most consumers do not realize that some (the newest) ED medications are a result of a side effect to treat an entirely different problem. Hypothetically, the patient was being treated for arthritis and the side effect was an unplanned, prolong erection...so market and sale the drug for that to.

Threat is the reasoning for all the legal disclosures..."could cause...seek medical treatment...?"

One of the latest-greatest drugs for ED, was originally designed to treat an entirely different problem and the side effect is prolonged erection. But, the risk to the cardiovascular system is great and, worse the drug has a longer system life. So, while the man got the instant result...two days later had the heart attack? The fine print on patient disclosures even state that risk.

2Big has the right outlook in this case...men, get in shape, eat right, exercise and your will look & feel better; it will most likely solve your diabetes, high blood pressure and...you ED issues (if it is of physical cause).

Sorry for the PSA...a lot of woman do not like men to use pills, because while you have a great erection for 40 minutes; you lose sensation and bang for the same amount of time. By than, the female has lost interest, is no longer turned on, its physically taunting and, she cant wait for it to be over...but because of the pill, it also, may prevent you from a release?

And while its a great joke..."what a way to go"...this is not the time or circumstance anyone wants to find out they have a cardiovascular problem that could have been avoided had they not taken that pill? I know CPR and have now hesitation to call 911...most providers don't/won't.

Sadly the little man makes "feel good" decisions and, bolts at high risk situations (limp dick syndrome).

All I have to say is please do your homework (read the fine print-ask challenging questions) long before you take a pill.

Thanks for reading and didn't mean to ruin the mood:rolleyes:

Jae

Instead

[BadBoy]

Sometimes you don't need the blue pill to get a hard on, you need 1/2 of a blue pill to get that second hard on (and maybe third).

Based upon all of the more likely risks (getting busted, getting caught, etc.) I think the very remote risk of dieing of a heart attack is not much of a concern.

I want to go out of this world the same way I came in: naked, screaming and in the vagina of a 23-year old.

[fork]

My point is, while the pharmaceuticals do work, it is not without huge risk to the same cardiovascular system that supports life and an erection. All ingested chemicals come with side effects and risk. In this case getting an erection by chemically forcing the cardiovascular system to comply...your also inducing a side effect to your cardiovascular system that your dependent on to live?

You seem to be confused between risk and consequences. The risk of a priapism (long lasting erection) is very small. The consequences are bad if not treated. A good analogy is a head-on collision with a big truck. The consequences are terrible. But the risk is small. You don't stay at home your whole life because holy shit, a head-on collision with a big truck is going to mess you up.

It seems that your logic is that "this is a drug that affects your cardiovascular system, and that's an important system, so this is dangerous". Pure silliness. You'll have to include many other drugs in that category ... caffeine, alcohol, blood pressure medication. All those are drugs that affect your cardiovascular system. You're obviously taking a huge risk with your morning coffee!

However, most consumers do not realize that some (the newest) ED medications are a result of a side effect to treat an entirely different problem. Hypothetically, the patient was being treated for arthritis and the side effect was an unplanned, prolong erection...so market and sale the drug for that to.

And that's important ... why? Lots of drugs are investigated for multiple uses. That doesn't change the testing they have to undergo for their prescribed use and for side effects.

Threat is the reasoning for all the legal disclosures..."could cause...seek medical treatment...?"

Threats of lawsuits are the reason for the disclosures. If you're going to avoid drugs that have long lists of disclosures, then that's just about everything. Are you elsewhere on the Internet arguing against aspirin and NyQuil?

[Guest]

Well put, Fork. Too many people get hysterical about drugs but not about driving, sex with strangers, or other things they value in life. Everything has a risk-reward issue. Just know the risks, make your decision, and move on.

A little Birdie said: "While I do practice holistic measures in my personal life; it is a very unregulated system/avenue that any "snake oil" company can jump on..."

That's the issue. Too many folks go this route while little is known about the risks -- the biggest reason is the unregulated aspect. Dosages, effects, side-effects, interactions, etc. are not controlled but folks believe they know better. So they put strange things into their bodies based on word-of-mouth and internet blogs.

Now, talking about putting strange things into bodies...

[Guest Birdie]

Just said what I know...because I really do like, enjoy and care for the gentlemen I have met.

I'm not a dim-wit simply researching the internet...to reply/support 2Bigs, theories...

What anyone needs to do to perform-its their choice...and their risk...and their hourly expense(?)

J

You seem to be confused between risk and consequences. The risk of a priapism (long lasting erection) is very small. The consequences are bad if not treated. A good analogy is a head-on collision with a big truck. The consequences are terrible. But the risk is small. You don't stay at home your whole life because holy shit, a head-on collision with a big truck is going to mess you up.

It seems that your logic is that "this is a drug that affects your cardiovascular system, and that's an important system, so this is dangerous". Pure silliness. You'll have to include many other drugs in that category ... caffeine, alcohol, blood pressure medication. All those are drugs that affect your cardiovascular system. You're obviously taking a huge risk with your morning coffee!

And that's important ... why? Lots of drugs are investigated for multiple uses. That doesn't change the testing they have to undergo for their prescribed use and for side effects.

Threats of lawsuits are the reason for the disclosures. If you're going to avoid drugs that have long lists of disclosures, then that's just about everything. Are you elsewhere on the Internet arguing against aspirin and NyQuil?

[sparkey600]

I've found that the best ED medicine for me is a good long lasting blow job!

Works EVERY time!

[gettin' up there]

So a 90 yo man in a nursing home was found to be taking Viagra. The nurse asked him why. He responded: "I take it so I won't piss on my feet." <ba dum CHING>

No, I heard it a different way: Why did the 90 year-old take Viagra? So he wouldn't fall out of bed!

[2Big]

I was thinking of using it "recreationally" on my next trip to Europe, working my way through the brothels and whores of Bucharest and Varna. I think I'll just stick with a cock ring.

[Come Honor Face]

I'm sure it's much, much more likely to get in a car accident with a truck than have a priapism event.

You seem to be confused between risk and consequences. The risk of a priapism (long lasting erection) is very small. The consequences are bad if not treated. A good analogy is a head-on collision with a big truck. The consequences are terrible. But the risk is small. You don't stay at home your whole life because holy shit, a head-on collision with a big truck is going to mess you up.

It seems that your logic is that "this is a drug that affects your cardiovascular system, and that's an important system, so this is dangerous". Pure silliness. You'll have to include many other drugs in that category ... caffeine, alcohol, blood pressure medication. All those are drugs that affect your cardiovascular system. You're obviously taking a huge risk with your morning coffee!

And that's important ... why? Lots of drugs are investigated for multiple uses. That doesn't change the testing they have to undergo for their prescribed use and for side effects.

Threats of lawsuits are the reason for the disclosures. If you're going to avoid drugs that have long lists of disclosures, then that's just about everything. Are you elsewhere on the Internet arguing against aspirin and NyQuil?

[ItatIsawAPuddyTat]

I'm sure it's much, much more likely to get in a car accident with a truck than have a priapism event.

Honestly: If you can do it without Viagra...DO IT! On the other hand, if it is not working USE Viagra. What am I missing here???

[Bit Banger]

Because I don't have a Prince's Wand yet!

[DaveMarin]

Because my dong stays hard, and my GF is also happy ;p

[Bigguy]

Easy answer is because I like to fuck and can't without it. I had 50 years or so of everything working great. Then I started to get occasional failures. Now 15 years later I pretty much need it to get hard. For me it works great. No bad side effects. Just a nice stiffy and later the ability to piss like a teenager. 2big is just bragging about his youth. Wait 20 or 30 years and he'll know the answer to his question.

[A-rod]

For some, simply using L-Citrulline can help. It increases blood flow. It DOES work, but takes a day or two to really take effect and can have a side effect of making you a little flush. Can also help with your workouts.