BP pussy

[Guest Shauna_Styles]

I always wondered why guys like unknown BP girls so much versus the legit reviewed ladies and it dawned on me...SCREENING! It is my personal observation that BP girls don't screen.

As soon as I ask a caller from BP for his name or refs I get a dial tone. Or that lame ass "I've never done this before line.'

What's up with that? You want me to fuck you but you can't tell me your name....ummmmm how about NO!

***end of rant**

Proceed with rude, asinine and other shitty comments lol

[Guest pejo]

You are right (as to BP girls and lack of screening).

I go with BP girls who have been reviewed (and there are lots of those) all the time. I also go with "legit" girls from EB sometimes, as long as we can figure out a screening process that works for both of us.

Once in a while I take a chance on an unreviewed BP girl who I like and who I think is posting real pictures. Total crapshoot, I know. But sometimes those sessions are awesome. Just had one yesterday, for example. And it was one of the best ever.

[pitbull]

I have not seen many FS ladies, but for them I have given as little info as possible and that has been fine. They have ALL been well reviewed. You are probably right about the lack of screening being the primary reason for relying on BP. Or it's just a wreckless instinct to see what happens.

I don't envy the responses you are about to get. They will be along the lines of: "I never give any info whatsoever. If she asks, I just dial the next woman."

And it will go on and on like that. I wish you the best of luck, and I can certainly see why you would be frustrated.

[LadyInWaiting]

Another BP provider put down thread. Screening or the lack there of is based on the provider and not where she advertises. I'd mentioned this in another thread. We where all unknown reviewed providers once. After years it is a fact I personally have NEVER and will NEVER forget. IMO if you do not like the responses from a site then don't advertise on the site simple enough.

[boink36]

I always wondered why guys like unknown BP girls so much versus the legit reviewed ladies and it dawned on me...SCREENING! It is my personal observation that BP girls don't screen.

As soon as I ask a caller from BP for his name or refs I get a dial tone. Or that lame ass "I've never done this before line.'

What's up with that? You want me to fuck you but you can't tell me your name....ummmmm how about NO!

***end of rant**

Proceed with rude, asinine and other shitty comments lol

I only wanted an hour of your time and companionship.

[socutesocurvy]

What's up with that? You want me to fuck you but you can't tell me your name....ummmmm how about NO!

"Its about my privacy as I have a high profile job. I can't afford to have someone know who I am."

So you are going to come over in a ski mask and body suit with a little whole for your dick to stick out? bwahahahahahahah

[Seeking ~P]

Once in a while I take a chance on an unreviewed BP girl who I like and who I think is posting real pictures.

How's that working for you?

[MAG]

You want me to fuck you but you can't tell me your name....ummmmm how about NO!

Then how about you tell us YOUR name?

You want enough information to be able to destroy our lives, but are unwilling to reciprocate? Ummm how about NO.

[pfunk]

Then how about you tell us YOUR name?

You want enough information to be able to destroy our lives, but are unwilling to reciprocate? Ummm how about NO.

Let me see...if she agrees to see you, without screening, you'll have her physical location, evidence that she is doing something not legal, pictures of her, reviews of her, advertising, and your first hand knowledge that session.

Now you could probably destroy her life, but she has no information on you.

Does that seem fair to you?

[Guest]

Let me see...if she agrees to see you, without screening, you'll have her physical location, evidence that she is doing something not legal, pictures of her, reviews of her, advertising, and your first hand knowledge that session.

Now you could probably destroy her life, but she has no information on you.

Does that seem fair to you?

Fairness is not the issue, here. Relative effects are.

Many providers have never been arrested. Many other providers have been arrested numerous times and are back working the next day.

Many providers are sweet, wonderful ladies. Many other providers are vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches, who are only capable of acting nice and sane in short 15 to 120 minute segments.

The information above is not available in reviews, or anywhere else for that matter. So, the client has to assume potential trouble and protect himself at all costs. When you find the sweet, sane providers with no arrest record, Then stick with them.

Pfunk, I know you have a reputation of being a gentleman, and I appreciate your concern. However, it is foolish to enter into a pact of "mutually assured destruction" when the other party may not have anything to lose.

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

That is not equal information. Many bookers ask for personal information such as real name, employment etc. The john only has her hookers name and possible address if she uses a hooker apartment. Any "retribution" a john could cause would also implicate himself. A hookers could cause all kinds of "retribution" with the information with his employer and family.

[Guest Shauna_Styles]

WOW! Providers have nothing to lose? This may come as a complete shocker but us ladies are actual human beings with lives and families even.

We are wives, girlfriends, mothers, [snip}, friends, students and so much more. You may think that we are just a wet hole created just to satisfy your sexual desires but you are sorely mistaken.

Getting arrested, while it is a concern, is not nearly as concerning as potentially being [snip}, robbed and murdered.

So while a john is worried about his wife finding out, we have to assume that every man is dangerous until he proves to us otherwise.

Do you honestly believe that a reputable provider with dozens of reviews wants to ruin her own business?

As much as you men like to kiss and tell, any crazy provider would be sure to gain a bad reputation quickly.

We have just as much to lose if not more if something were to go wrong.

But thanks for showing me just how little some men think of providers.

Edited December 5, 2014 by boink36
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[inkspot]

Fairness is not the issue, here. Relative effects are.

Many providers have never been arrested. Many other providers have been arrested numerous times and are back working the next day.

Many providers are sweet, wonderful ladies. Many other providers are vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches, who are only capable of acting nice and sane in short 15 to 120 minute segments.

The information above is not available in reviews, or anywhere else for that matter. So, the client has to assume potential trouble and protect himself at all costs. When you find the sweet, sane providers with no arrest record, Then stick with them.

Pfunk, I know you have a reputation of being a gentleman, and I appreciate your concern. However, it is foolish to enter into a pact of "mutually assured destruction" when the other party may not have anything to lose.

This is an eloquent statement I completely agree with.

Not every provider has your level of sophistication. Some are bat-shit crazy.

I will provide references. Anything more than light screening is TOTALLY out of the question. If a provider does not want to see me based on my rules, then it is her loss and I will gladly move along.

If you have been around here for a while, you may remember a few vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches doing their best to ruin a clients life. (Look up Frugger in the archives).

To the OP, I am not sure you are asking a rhetorical question but cost is one of many reasons men visit BP gals. Make this into another rate thread if you may but I chuckle when I see providers advertising $400 or even $600 for a 1 hr visit.

[Guest Shauna_Styles]

This is an eloquent statement I completely agree with.

Not every provider has your level of sophistication. Some are bat-shit crazy.

I will provide references. Anything more than light screening is TOTALLY out of the question. If a provider does not want to see me based on my rules, then it is her loss and I will gladly move along.

If you have been around here for a while, you may remember a few vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches doing their best to ruin a clients life. (Look up Frugger in the archives).

To the OP, I am not sure you are asking a rhetorical question but cost is one of many reasons men visit BP gals. Make this into another rate thread if you may but I chuckle when I see providers advertising $400 or even $600 for a 1 hr visit.

So then you would understand why some providers do not accept provider references from certain ladies and have a different form of screening.

I don't have a problem politely ending a conversation with someone who doesn't feel comfortable with my screening. Its my body and I have the right to decide who I share it with. Not all money is good money. I'd rather be alive and broke then take a bad call and end up dead or in jail.

As for rates....there's nothing wrong with a lady who charges $400 +, there's something wrong with your wallet.

What's that saying...champagne tastes on a beer budget.

The odds of unknown BP girl being BCS are way higher than a lady who's well reviewed. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all of time. Eventually someone like that is going to be outed for doing pulling crazy with with clients.

I know the common misconception is that providers are all money grubbing whores who will destroy your life if you piss them off but that couldn't further from the truth. The majority of us are just like you. Just like the majority of clients are not dangerous. However we both are taking risks, be respectful of the fact that your provider is risking her life. damn

[pitbull]

So then you would understand why some providers do not accept provider references from certain ladies and have a different form of screening.

I don't have a problem politely ending a conversation with someone who doesn't feel comfortable with my screening. Its my body and I have the right to decide who I share it with. Not all money is good money. I'd rather be alive and broke then take a bad call and end up dead or in jail.

As for rates....there's nothing wrong with a lady who charges $400 +, there's something wrong with your wallet.

What's that saying...champagne tastes on a beer budget.

The odds of unknown BP girl being BCS are way higher than a lady who's well reviewed. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all of time. Eventually someone like that is going to be outed for doing pulling crazy with with clients.

I know the common misconception is that providers are all money grubbing whores who will destroy your life if you piss them off but that couldn't further from the truth. The majority of us are just like you. Just like the majority of clients are not dangerous. However we both are taking risks, be respectful of the fact that your provider is risking her life. damn

This is going to get ugly. av8r it's your turn, then InkSpot. Now someone insert the eating popcorn GIF

[Denguy40]

[muckleskelpin]

It is not perfect but that is where P411 helps with the screening issue.

[Bit Banger]

It is not perfect but that is where P411 helps with the screening issue.

+1 on that!

It has always bothered me that some gals demand full disclosure from clients and continue to hide behind their stage identity. But that is the way of the world. You're more likely to get a street walker's real first name (but only first name) on a first date.

Clients get robbed all the time - cash&dash, and some even consider Bait&Switch to be a form of robbery. While pimps may offer the gals protection they also pose a threat, including physical violence, to honest clients. In 40+ years I've had a few pimp encounters; the only reason they didn't get violent was because the $s weren't worth the trouble for me. As for BSC gals, it took almost a year to run the most recent off the boards (from the time I first started hearing about her) and she's still working in the area.

To the OP: I tend to NOT frequent BP because I want to reduce my risks of encountering hard-ass pimps and {forbidden} providers.

[engineer]

I try BP (and CL) fairly often for two reasons. First, its about selection. The SAME women have been on TOB/EB for a long time. I see their ads every day, so the images have grown stale. They also tend to be rigid on rules, length of session, etc.

On the other hand, BP has visiting girls who are legit, has "newbies" and fresh talent. And new images. But they also have fakes, scams, and all that. Its a land of high(er) risk and high reward. I found my ATF on CL. Hottest girl I've seen and for 100 she's mine all night. She's given me freebies on two occasions. That's a jackpot you wont hit with "verified" providers.

The second reason is cost. The "established" girls are all 150hhr/250hr or more. I can ofen find a 50 utf quickie and even 100 full hour. And I'm sure you're thinking "get what you pay for.". Well, I've been EXTREMELY disappointed in a 300 hour before...for 50-100 its hard to be disappointed.

Lack of screening, as OP guessed, has nothing to with it for me.

[Guest]

I always wondered why guys like unknown BP girls so much versus the legit reviewed ladies

You seem to have a problem with gross generalizations. First, you slam all BP ladies, when there are many fairly discreet and high quality providers who advertise only via BP. At least one of them is a regular contributor to this forum.

Secondly, there is a "legit reviewed lady" advertising on EB right this minute who has a history of prominently posting a clients personal name, phone, and home address information on a public board. Simply for the crime of "No Show."

WOW! Providers have nothing to lose?

Thirdly, I never said this. If you go back and read my post, you will understand that I was saying SOME ladies may decide that they want to hurt you so bad, that they decide they have less to lose than you in exercising a "mutually assured destruction" option. Again, I reference the provider advertising on escort boards, who obviously did not care about the damage done to her reputation for outing a client because of a no show.

Shauna, I understand your frustration. Although we have never met, you are on the list of ladies I hope to meet someday. You have a good reputation. Not only as a quality, attractive provider; but also as one of the sane, sweet ladies.

Just as we clients must deal with the consequences of our brethren who lie, cheat, steal, beat, [snip}, and arrest honest hard working girls, you ladies have to deal with the consequences of your sisters who lie, cheat, steal, and try to destroy the lives of the men who see them.

There is no happy medium. We must gaze at each other across a field of mistrust, until trust is proven. The greatest tool I've found to combat this is P411. But it is not available for every provider.

Best wishes for your success.

Edited December 5, 2014 by boink36
Forbidden topic removed.

[Lucy Kitten]

This is an eloquent statement I completely agree with.

Not every provider has your level of sophistication. Some are bat-shit crazy.

I will provide references. Anything more than light screening is TOTALLY out of the question. If a provider does not want to see me based on my rules, then it is her loss and I will gladly move along.

If you have been around here for a while, you may remember a few vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches doing their best to ruin a clients life. (Look up Frugger in the archives).

To the OP, I am not sure you are asking a rhetorical question but cost is one of many reasons men visit BP gals. Make this into another rate thread if you may but I chuckle when I see providers advertising $400 or even $600 for a 1 hr visit.

It's not our loss it's your loss. It really is an easy decision to not see someone if they have no interest in making a lady feel comfortable seeing them. I personally have no interest in seeing anyone that hold an entire group responsible for the actions of a few. The really funny part is because of the spiteful bitches you don't wanna give up personal info but force us ladies into dealing with those women instead in the form of a reference? It's laughable you don't want to trust us ladies but expect us to trust each other? Your reference from a stranger is meaningless to me and totally useless if for some reason I need to go to the police.

You seem to be the one who turned it into a rate thread. Chuckle all you want those ladies could give two shits about your thoughts on the matter.

[bow-tie guy]

As for rates....there's nothing wrong with a lady who charges $400 +, there's something wrong with your wallet.

What's that saying...champagne tastes on a beer budget.

I personally see this as an overly broad generalization....

that one doesn't care to play with the "higher end" of the local offerings

may not be indicative of their wherewithal to do so, but more of a result of the value proposition being desired....

to me personally, a very limited availability could be worthwhile to some....

Anyhow...

[inkspot]

Proceed with rude, asinine and other shitty comments lol

Thank you Luce for your contribution to the thread.

[Lucy Kitten]

Fairness is not the issue, here. Relative effects are.

Many providers have never been arrested. Many other providers have been arrested numerous times and are back working the next day.

Many providers are sweet, wonderful ladies. Many other providers are vindictive, half-crazed spiteful bitches, who are only capable of acting nice and sane in short 15 to 120 minute segments.

The information above is not available in reviews, or anywhere else for that matter. So, the client has to assume potential trouble and protect himself at all costs. When you find the sweet, sane providers with no arrest record, Then stick with them.

Pfunk, I know you have a reputation of being a gentleman, and I appreciate your concern. However, it is foolish to enter into a pact of "mutually assured destruction" when the other party may not have anything to lose.

How foolish is it really? PFunk has been doing this for quite some time and seems no worse for the wear and to top it all off he is still positive about the whole thing, maybe you should be taking notes instead of putting him down.

This is all about fairness, to imply that someone may have nothing to lose is about the most insulting thing you could say to another human being. You know what we ladies put at risk every day on the job???? Our bodies!! My human life as a provider is worth less than your "high profile job"?

This isn't a business where risk can be totally eliminated, all who participate are at risk. It is not the responsibility of the provider to suck it up because you don't feel like sharing personal info. If you gentlemen have so much to lose why participate at all? Why not assume any of the risk of such a taboo activity? It seems what you guys really want is no personal responsibility if shit hits the fan.

[Guest pejo]

Once in a while I take a chance on an unreviewed BP girl who I like and who I think is posting real pictures.

How's that working for you?

I *think* you are asking the question sarcastically, and that you assume it has worked out badly for me. As I pointed out in my post, that particular practice is a crapshoot. However, you can improve your odds by doing some homework on the pictures posted. If Tineye and Google image search pull nothing suspicious, and if the photos are selfies of a regular-looking girl (rather than a supermodel type), then the odds are decent they are real pics (obviously the age/weight discrepancy issue still exists). I have tried "flying blind" like this half a dozen times, and have been burned twice. So, that's a 2:1 success ratio, I guess.

As I mentioned, it's a "once in a while" approach anyway. Kinda fun, actually.

[bow-tie guy]

It can't be any worse that the old days....

Oyster era, etc....

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

While pfunk has been doing this awhile, he is in a relationship with a hookers which makes him biased. Both hookers and johns have equal risks and rewards in this illegal activity. I have never been asked for personal information from a hooker and would not provide it if I were.

[Bit Banger]

While pfunk has been doing this awhile, he is in a relationship with a hookers which makes him biased.

pfunk has been doing this far longer than his current relationship. His views may be colored, but his experience still shows through.

... Both hookers and johns have equal risks and rewards in this illegal activity. ...

While I wouldn't say equal, both have risks. The level of risk depends on personal situations. A single guy with a blue collar job has less to lose than a single mom with C***d Welfare Services breathing down her neck. Conversely that high powered executive has more to lose than the young bar fly (What ever happened to Donna Rice?).

[socutesocurvy]

Basically, this all comes down to what each individual is comfortable with. What makes sense to ME from a hobbyist standpoint is as long as a girl is reviewed/P411 member ect ect ect, then he is good to go. No girl with a good business is going to ruin it by playing games with her guys.

For me personally, I screen and say it on my P411 along with BP when I advertised there. If a guy calls me and doesn't want to be screened, it makes me mad as, "Can you not MOTHERFREAKIN READ!?!?!?" I have no problems letting my guys know my real name and business after us meeting. <snip>

Edited December 5, 2014 by Kaduk
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[Bit Banger]

Basically, this all comes down to what each individual is comfortable with. What makes sense to ME from a hobbyist standpoint is as long as a girl is reviewed/P411 member ect ect ect, then he is good to go. No girl with a good business is going to ruin it by playing games with her guys. ...

On this I would disagree! The troublesome provider previously mentioned in this thread was a member of P411 and had a long string of FANTASTIC reviews. As I recollect, she had a problem with any client who gave her anything less. But I'm sure she (& many other gals) figure there are plenty of fish available, as do many of the guys. But not all of us (guys & gals) are lampreys.