Suggesting another provider

[Guest]

I've recently encounter a bit of a tiff with one of the ladies from EB (nothing serious) just something that got me thinking;

Is it wrong to suggest another provider if she's newbie friendly and I'm not.

If a gentleman inquires to see me but has no references, only has one or says he's new to the business - You must have two to be able to meet with me- I see no problem if I let him know that he is obviously called a "newbie" and that he should see one of the ladies that have other means to check his credibility and give a name. It's nothing that he wouldn't have found on his own and I actually thought of it as a nice gesture to help those ladies out, not that they need it but just me knowing we're all in the same business and if it can possibly be gain for you then why not.

I've done this numerous times and have never had a problem with it until now. Wanted to know everyones thoughts.

No harm no foul right?

Olivia Belle

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

I don't think it is a good idea to refer a specific provider. Most guys call a provider based on her looks and services and by recommending a specific provider he may expect what he originally called you for and if the other provider doesn't measure up he will blame you.

[Jez UaBriain]

While it is a nice gesture for you to refer these gentlemen to another provider; I want you to think about something.

First, we all want to help out each other in business, and stay safe. Your reasons for not being newbie friendly are your own. And most of these guys are pretty decent people. And it’s always been the normal for me to try a steer a man in the right direction (provider-wise), if I cannot see him for whatever reason. I think most of my sister providers are the same in this with their businesses.

By your not seeing a guy who has maybe one reference, or none, you are losing a potential good, regular, client. I base my reference screening on 4 things. How they conduct themselves in email, or voice mail. But, the best way is a good old phone conversation. With our hooker "spidey-sense", I can pretty much determine If the guy is safe and give him a break on his lack of references. Then when he leaves me, he has a bonafide, provider reference

that is as good as my reputation allows.

What if you referred him to a provider and she accepted? Then became a victim of a crime? Something to think about. I'd rather you questioned him, and then let your "spidey-sense" determine if you should send him to another provider. Just saying......

[Guest]

imo you should not turn down guys that do not have 2 references. Just screen those guys differently. Get whatever info you need to feel comfortable. But by turning down guys that don't have 2 referencesyou're only hurting your own pocket.

[inkspot]

Some of my best appointments have been through provider referrals.

I think it is A-OK for a provider to refer a client to another provider. I happen to mention I like something during pillow talk. The provider mentions that she knows someone who likes to provide that service. We connect and have one happy boy. Happens all the time.

Some of my best appointments have been through provider referrals.

[AaBrenly]

From a client point of view I would at least consider a suggestion from a provider. If I have done my research I am looking forward to the meeting and there is some optimism about meeting up and positive thoughts about this person. If they recommend someone else I would think about it. Not sure how likely I would be to follow the recommendation though. If I have been seeing this personal already and have some rapport built up and she recommends someone I would be very likely to follow the recommendation since they know more about me and what I like and don't like. Jez brings up some valid points from the providers viewpoint that are different from ours.

[NaughtyNiceGuy]

A referral from a provider you have seen is different than one from someone you haven't seen or won't see you because you have no references and she is recommending a provider based on their newby friendly advertising not because she knows them.

[Bit Banger]

When giving referrals or references, it is best to check with the person to be contacted (in this instance the other ASP) prior to providing their name. This courtesy applies both inside & outside 'the hobby'.

[urfan]

same as a hobby horse recommending another stallion based on the same criteria ain't it?

[fork]

I've recently encounter a bit of a tiff with one of the ladies from EB (nothing serious) just something that got me thinking;

Is it wrong to suggest another provider if she's newbie friendly and I'm not.

If a gentleman inquires to see me but has no references, only has one or says he's new to the business - You must have two to be able to meet with me- I see no problem if I let him know that he is obviously called a "newbie" and that he should see one of the ladies that have other means to check his credibility and give a name. It's nothing that he wouldn't have found on his own and I actually thought of it as a nice gesture to help those ladies out, not that they need it but just me knowing we're all in the same business and if it can possibly be gain for you then why not.

I've done this numerous times and have never had a problem with it until now. Wanted to know everyones thoughts.

No harm no foul right?

Running it through the hobby translator - "I told a guy about another provider who doesn't screen, and she freaked out."

Seems fine to me, and she obviously is just being irrational. I don't see why she would care where he got her name, assuming she's not under the radar.

When giving referrals or references, it is best to check with the person to be contacted (in this instance the other ASP) prior to providing their name. This courtesy applies both inside & outside 'the hobby'.

People drop casual referrals all the time. "I haven't been to that new restaurant, but it looks like a place you would like". If someone advertises and isn't under the radar then I don't see what the issue is.

[Paul Pudenda]

I'm guessing that the provider to whom you referred the client took umbrage. If I had been the client, I would not have mentioned your name. Perhaps you should suggest this to others you refer on - but I like Jezz and Destiny's take the best: try other screening methods to avoid losing potentially good clients. We were all newbies once upon a time - but I have a hard time remembering back that far.

[Velvet Valentine]

Hi Olivia,

If the client were someone I had seen before, and know to be safe, Id refer those to any friend I have worked with anytime. However if I was unable to screen them myself, I would never refer them out to anyone. I generally only refer girls I've worked with, and I usually give several names (if they asked), to give them a choice...maybe only in the instance that another girls knew and was totally ok with it, would I refer a newbie, but that could always be bad for another girl, so I wouldn't just put one off on someone else, just in case. Hope this helps!

[mrvegas63]

...she is recommending a provider based on their newby friendly advertising not because she knows them.

I'm guessing that the provider to whom you referred the client took umbrage.

Yep. Run through the hooker translator: "That B! She thinks she's too good to see the guy, so dumps this loser onto me?!"

When giving referrals or references, it is best to check with the person to be contacted (in this instance the other ASP) prior to providing their name. This courtesy applies both inside & outside 'the hobby'.

Amen. And if not contacting the other provider(s), can simply say "check escortboards.net, there are ladies advertising there that are newbie friendly. Maybe one of them will strike your fancy?".

[2Big]

but just me knowing we're all in the same business and if it can possibly be gain for you then why not.

No harm no foul right?

You did the right thing.

Then again, as can be seen in this thread, many working girls just aren't very smart

[Jez UaBriain]

You did the right thing.

Then again, as can be seen in this thread, many working girls just aren't very smart

No twobig, your wrong. I'd much rather compromise my bank account,then accept just any swingin' dick that calls. If they can't get pass *hooker spidey -sense", then it just ain't happening. Not all people are greedy. If I die happy in all aspects of my life but financia,l then I will feel I lived a good life. Sometimes that dollar just isn't worth it.

[2Big]

Are you really that thick in the head?

You don't have to accept the appointment. She's talking about a referral.

What you do with it is your choice.

[Whatdah]

No twobig, your wrong. I'd much rather compromise my bank account,then accept just any swingin' dick that calls.

no one is saying you have to accept any "swinging dick" that calls. if another hooker refers a client to you, you still have every opportunity to tell the swing dick "no thanks".

[Whatdah]

I've recently encounter a bit of a tiff with one of the ladies from EB (nothing serious) just something that got me thinking;

Is it wrong to suggest another provider if she's newbie friendly and I'm not.

If a gentleman inquires to see me but has no references, only has one or says he's new to the business - You must have two to be able to meet with me- I see no problem if I let him know that he is obviously called a "newbie" and that he should see one of the ladies that have other means to check his credibility and give a name. It's nothing that he wouldn't have found on his own and I actually thought of it as a nice gesture to help those ladies out, not that they need it but just me knowing we're all in the same business and if it can possibly be gain for you then why not.

I've done this numerous times and have never had a problem with it until now. Wanted to know everyones thoughts.

No harm no foul right?

Olivia Belle

correct. no harm no foul.

you passed along info that the client could have found out on his own. no big deal.

the moral of the story (for some it seems) is unfortunately that "no good deed goes unpunished"

[mrvegas63]

You don't have to accept the appointment. She's talking about a referral.

What you do with it is your choice.

Yep, yep, yep.

Now, to be a bit fair, lots of guys are dense AND lack any kind of tact. Can see where dumb noob calls up noob friendly provider B and says: "Hey! Provider A sez you'll do me! So, howboutit!? I'm free right now.". Can see an ASP getting ticked off. Hence my previous comment re: just point the noob to EB and let him do the work.

[gr8owl]

If you are not comfortable seeing someone - for ANY reason including they have no references - why would you refer him to someone else? Obviously he attempted to use your name to lend some credibility - "oh, Olivia sent me so I'm OK." I'm guessing there are enough guys that play that lame game without your help. I assume you meant well but best to at most just point him to ad board where he can find newbie friendly ladies on his own. Just my opinion.

[gr8owl]

You did the right thing.

Then again, as can be seen in this thread, many working girls just aren't very smart

Hmmmmmm, lemme see. Two people consent to sexual intimacy together, both enjoy the encounter, one leaves couple hundred bucks LESS in the pocket, the other with couple hundred MORE in the pocket. Now, which one is not too smart again?? I'm getting confused.

[Happymon]

I try to avoid passing on discomfort to others, unless I have a specific agreement to do so with someone who's risk profile and/or skill set differs from mine. However, blind referrals are generally inappropriate.

[pitbull]

imo you should not turn down guys that do not have 2 references. Just screen those guys differently. Get whatever info you need to feel comfortable. But by turning down guys that don't have 2 referencesyou're only hurting your own pocket.

Hope this is not diverting the topic, but Destiny's point is a good one. I suppose my question is WHY don't you accept a guy with just ONE reference? How is his credibility enhanced with two?

[Jez UaBriain]

no one is saying you have to accept any "swinging dick" that calls. if another hooker refers a client to you, you still have every opportunity to tell the swing dick "no thanks".

So you liked my "swinging dick " comment, I take it.