Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I'll probably get flamed for this but here goes... From time to time over the past years I have been working in Denver, I'd hear about the occasional wife calling a girl, after finding out that her husband has been seeing providers. Well, in the past few weeks, I have heard, and seen 12 such cases, involving close friends, some of which are right here on TOB. It's happening daily now. Either a wife shows up at a girl's home, or incall, or the wife is calling the providers to cry, complain, threaten her, etc.....This to me is becoming a bit much lately. In all of these particular cases the wife got into the guys email and the guys had records of the providers, including their addresses recorded. I am pretty sure some of these guys don't even know that their wives are on to them. I'm not posting this thread to blame anyone in spicific. And I'm not posting for anyone to "out" themselves. Please keep your private business private. I'm aware that some providers might make the same mistake of keeping records, etc. . But please. Think of your families and yourself. Think of the girls you are seeing. Think of your own piece of mind. Try to be a bit more discrete if you want to hobby. It's very difficult to face a hurting wife. Personally, I have a lot of simpathy when another woman comes to me about her husband. I really want to just hug her, and tell her to go fuck his brains out. It's akward for all of us. I really feel for her. So, I'd rather not be confronted at all....It bites. And most times, those same wives are pretty damn likable, which makes it harder. No one wants to be the cause of a break-up. All I'm saying is, cover your tracks please. Change your passwords. Get a different private email and hobby phone. Stop Slacking! Thanks! Love Ya'll!! That's all. LOL xoxoxo Edited August 1, 2012 by Velvet Valentine sp 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 I'll probably get flamed for this but here goes... From time to time over the past years I have been working in Denver, I'd hear about the occasional wife calling a girl, after finding out that her husband has been seeing providers. Well, in the past few weeks, I have heard, and seen 12 such cases, involving close friends, some of which are right here on TOB. It's happening daily now. Either a wife shows up at a girl's home, or incall, or the wife is calling the providers to cry, complain, threaten her, etc.....This to me is becoming a bit much lately. In all of these particular cases the wife got into the guys email and the guys had records of the providers, including their addresses recorded. I am pretty sure some of these guys don't even know that their wives are on to them. I'm not posting this thread to blame anyone in spicific. And I'm not posting for anyone to "out" themselves. Please keep your private business private. I'm aware that some providers might make the same mistake of keeping records, etc. . But please. Think of your families and yourself. Think of the girls you are seeing. Think of your own piece of mind. Try to be a bit more discrete if you want to hobby. It's very difficult to face a hurting wife. Personally, I have a lot of simpathy when another woman comes to me about her husband. I really want to just hug her, and tell her to go fuck his brains out. It's akward for all of us. I really feel for her. So, I'd rather not be confronted at all....It bites. And most times, those same wives are pretty damn likable, which makes it harder. No one wants to be the cause of a break-up. All I'm saying is, cover your tracks please. Change your passwords. Get a different private email and hobby phone. Stop Slacking! Thanks! Love Ya'll!! That's all. LOL xoxoxo Velvet, you care about everyone. That's nice! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 All I'm saying is, cover your tracks please. Change your passwords. Get a different private email and hobby phone. Stop Slacking! Thanks! Love Ya'll!! That's all. LOL xoxoxo Not gonna help. Women have spidey senses when it comes to their husbands cheating on them. Eventually, they'll all be found out. And a good thing it is, because cheating on your wife is immoral, and if you do it, you deserve whatever you get. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 Think of your families ....and don't cheat on your spouse. That's the only solid advice. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) ok...well IMO, most of the men I see, really love their wives, so yes....I feel sorry for them. I'd like to think that seeing a provider would be way less stressful on a marriage than a full on affair. Great mutual sex and communication being the best situation, of course.....but when I continually see this, it is upsetting. We might be providers but some really do have compassion for others. For myself, I am able to seperate love from sex. I believe you can really love someone and have sex with another, but most don't see things my way....sadly. Edited August 1, 2012 by Velvet Valentine sp. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 well put. Regretably, i get some who are concerned with privacy..and although i like to delete all records ..invariably, i'll get a request down the line from one or two of them..which is a continuation of our original email with all the arrangements and info (eeek!) It's pretty serious for the provider's safety also. Last thing i need is a jealous SO showing up or following me with a gun or to engage in some element of an altercation. hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. and yes. no matter what you do to "cover up"..most women DO have a sixth sense when it comes to cheating. If you love your spouse and cannot stop "hobbying", work on making her feel loved, comfortable and taken care of (it'll pay off in giving you a bit more leeway to be sneaky bastards on your free time) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 Velvet, thanks for your post. I feel the exact same way lady. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 Velvet yes thank you for this post. Went we do all we can on our part and the calls/emails come from the SO it leaves you to wonder. I am also with you as for sex and love having nothing to do with one another. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 Dangerous topic. I know that you posted this because you are a caring person.....not because you wanted your married clients to reflect on how their wives would feel if they knew.......but that is probably what is happening. I wonder what percentage of the Denver client base is married? You ladies probably have a better feel for this than I do. I know that a number of providers advertise specifically that they will perform services clients are not getting at home. I am sorry you have experienced this. The only way to prevent it from happening to you is to refuse to see married clients unless they have a note from their wife. From a pure right or wrong position, 2Big's assessment is correct We all have to rationalize our ways through the various shades of grey that make up real life to be able to live with ourselves. If you, as a client, have made such rationalizations and care for your wifes feelings, you owe it to her to ensure your activities are shrouded in the highest level of security you can muster. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 You are exactly right, velvet. That is why I hate email or text for hobbying. No paper trail cyber or otherwise. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 I have had several wives call me over the years. It sucks! The guys expect us to be discreet but sometimes do not practice being discreet themselves. The way that I avoid wives now is that ALL calls that come through my phone go to voicemail and then I start the screening process from there. But regardless if an escort knows how to avoid a wife or not it is very sloppy and rude on the behalf of the client that expects discretion from us. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 1, 2012 There are situations where it's not cheating. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2012 ok...well IMO, most of the men I see, really love their wives, so yes....I feel sorry for them. I'd like to think that seeing a provider would be way less stressful on a marriage than a full on affair. Great mutual sex and communication being the best situation, of course.....but when I continually see this, it is upsetting. We might be providers but some really do have compassion for others. For myself, I am able to seperate love from sex. I believe you can really love someone and have sex with another, but most don't see things my way....sadly. I agree and it is sad but I don't see this changing anytime soon. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2012 I'll probably get flamed for this but here goes... From time to time over the past years I have been working in Denver, I'd hear about the occasional wife calling a girl, after finding out that her husband has been seeing providers. Well, in the past few weeks, I have heard, and seen 12 such cases, involving close friends, some of which are right here on TOB. It's happening daily now. Either a wife shows up at a girl's home, or incall, or the wife is calling the providers to cry, complain, threaten her, etc.....This to me is becoming a bit much lately. In all of these particular cases the wife got into the guys email and the guys had records of the providers, including their addresses recorded. I am pretty sure some of these guys don't even know that their wives are on to them. I'm not posting this thread to blame anyone in spicific. And I'm not posting for anyone to "out" themselves. Please keep your private business private. I'm aware that some providers might make the same mistake of keeping records, etc. . But please. Think of your families and yourself. Think of the girls you are seeing. Think of your own piece of mind. Try to be a bit more discrete if you want to hobby. It's very difficult to face a hurting wife. Personally, I have a lot of simpathy when another woman comes to me about her husband. I really want to just hug her, and tell her to go fuck his brains out. It's akward for all of us. I really feel for her. So, I'd rather not be confronted at all....It bites. And most times, those same wives are pretty damn likable, which makes it harder. No one wants to be the cause of a break-up. All I'm saying is, cover your tracks please. Change your passwords. Get a different private email and hobby phone. Stop Slacking! Thanks! Love Ya'll!! That's all. LOL xoxoxo It could be one guy with one wife who looked at his email and found out about the 12+ providers he saw. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 2, 2012 It could be one guy with one wife who looked at his email and found out about the 12+ providers he saw. NOT 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 3, 2012 I wiuld say that wives calling providers to complain etc.... comes with the territory. While it is a drag and a bummer to get those calls .... stuff happens. To avoid getting the wife call the ladies should NOT see any married men. Strangely most women think poorly of the ladies and gents here when they catch their spouses cheating. Sure, if a gent is going to cheat on their spouse he should cover his butt, but no system is perfect so the wife call is going to happen. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 3, 2012 Along the same lines of covering your tracks etc.... if you leave a voicemail message for a lady indicate when you may be called back, texted etc. It may seem like we are rude and not returning phone calls, but it is for your own protection. If you don't tell me when to call back (anytime, before 5pm, etc.), I won't call. I don't want to chance your phone being intercepted, or you being questioned, "who is that?", etc. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 4, 2012 I guess people got caught because: 1- Internet / email ==> Solution: Private browsing, no bookmarks (I mean, everybody can remember theotherboard.com...not that hard to type), do not download images or page... Don't use your "public" email address, and delete all email once you read them. Handle: get creative a bit. Password. same as above, should be unique 2- Phone: ==> Solution: Ideal is a dedicated pre paid phone for hobbying, and delete call and text once your done. Do not store any phone number on it. If you need to call a lady, look up on the internet, call and delete history. If it's a new generation phone, take off battery and the card once you call the lady!!!! Having a 2nd phone, you'll have to hide it...Avoid your car or house! Office should be fine. 3- Perfume / hair: ==> Shower is your friend 4- You will always have the risk of being seen entering a hotel or place by somebody who know you or your SO. Try to hobby a bit far from your house. Park your car 3mn walking from where the lady is. (supermarket, store, office building...) and always try to have an answer if one day your SO asks you why you were at xxxx street at 3pm while you were supposed to be at your office.... 5- Cash. ==> Netspend or any similar...Another solution, if you happen to go abroad during your vacations, send your SO for a shopping trip to the nearby mall and you go visit the first bank to open an account in that country. Check the option for paperless statement ( you prolly don't want a statement coming to your house). It will cost you a bit extra commission (for deposit) but harder to track for your SO. 6- Never NEVER hobby in your house! 7- Visit KNOWN ladies. TOFTT is risky, really risky. First for your security, and you never know who's going to open the door!!! Imagine a friend of your SO hobbying! GL with the explanation 8- You should avoid telling anybody about your performances...Never know who gonna spill the beans. Be discreet! 9- Hotels: I always try to arrive 15mn before the meeting, have a quick look around the parking, and check the entries. Most of the hotels have 3-4 doors. Avoid if possible the main lobby (people tend to congregate in those places). Also, try to act as any normal person, you're not doing anything illegal ....yet . If your date is in a 5 stars hotel, avoid looking like you're coming from garbage cleaning duty..Blend in the environment. 10- Good luck 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 5, 2012 I guess people got caught because: ..... All great advise, but you missed one major reason People get caught because their behavior prompted their SO to start looking. Once a woman starts looking for evidence of infidelity ... it is pretty much game over at that point 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2012 I guess people got caught because: 2- Phone: ==> Solution: Ideal is a dedicated pre paid phone for hobbying, and delete call and text once your done. Do not store any phone number on it. If you need to call a lady, look up on the internet, call and delete history. If it's a new generation phone, take off battery and the card once you call the lady!!!! Having a 2nd phone, you'll have to hide it...Avoid your car or house! Office should be fine. To add to this one... secure your phone with a very difficult password. If it is found in your vehicle claim its a co-workers and make it disappear. If you continue to hobby get another one, they are throw away. NEVER call your own cell with that one so it can be linked and keep it off unless you need to use it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2012 ....and don't cheat on your spouse... We don't. That is why we choose to see a provider rather than the neighbor's wife. Velvet, Thank you for the heads up. I see nothing flammable about your comments. Discretion is a must in this hobby and it is always good to be reminded of it now and then. Since Married men have probably been the largest demographic group of a providers clientele for as long as the profession existed, and angry wives have been busting their ass for just as long, it is also probably good idea for every provider to have a creative, pre-rehearsed convincing response to create self doubt in the mind of the angry wife who calls. I know one girl who would say: "I do not recall your husbands name, but I am private jewelry broker who works on an appointment only basis. He must have been referred to me by someone" Suddenly, the wife feels foolish for meddling in some special gift that she thinks he was planning for her. Next, the provider would alert the client of the wife's call where he would have a couple of options: 1. Confront his wife and say that he is now too embarrassed to buy that special surprise he planned for her...or 2. Say nothing and buy her some jewelry. If you create enough doubt, a wife will usually run with it if that is what she wants to believe. oh..and jewelry really helps. Look at what it did for Kobe Bryant.... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2012 So seeing a provider is not cheating on the wife. I wonder what the wife thinks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2012 We don't. That is why we choose to see a provider rather than the neighbor's wife. Wow, I can't even fathom how anyone can believe such a statement. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 6, 2012 Wow, I can't even fathom how anyone can believe such a statement. I assume they're one of those people that sees a difference between cheating with the body and cheating with the heart (escorts involve one, affairs usually involve both). They might even be one of those people that has openly discussed that distinction with their SO. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 9, 2012 I assume they're one of those people that sees a difference between cheating with the body and cheating with the heart (escorts involve one, affairs usually involve both). They might even be one of those people that has openly discussed that distinction with their SO. Of course, it's not cheating if the SO knows about it, or at least they have a mutual "don't ask don't tell agreement". That's why it's called 'cheating'. But to say that there's any difference between having sex with a friend/coworker/whatever and paying someone for it in regards to if it's "ok" or not completely boggles me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
