Posted July 3, 2016 Just a quick PSA relative to ad pics, especially of the selfie type in hotel room. A little caution may be in order relative to what shows in the background. http://fox2now.com/2016/06/22/snapping-a-picture-of-your-hotel-room-could-help-stop-human-trafficking/ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 3, 2016 Hell, pretty soon they'll have cameras on the hotel TVs and Big Brother will be watching you. Hopefully this is a data base that never gets off the ground. Odds are pretty good it won't work if they're relying on volunteers to submit the photos. But if the do-gooders in Congress get on their good-intentions-bandwagon theyll require all hotels to submit pics of every hotel In the country (how many is that? In the millions I would guess). Half the restrictions on our freedoms have been enacted under the banner of 'save the children.' I'm definitely voting libertarian this time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 3, 2016 A cautionary note. This is a link to a video report. The audio was quite loud on my computer. Be sure to turn your volume off if you are in a public area. There is text to read also. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Gentlejeff1 said: Hell, pretty soon they'll have cameras on the hotel TVs and Big Brother will be watching you. While this may be overstating things, surveillance of all the public spaces in and around hotels is a reality. And cooperation between hotel operators and LE to rid our communities of trafficking (as they define it) is on the rise. The woman who will most likely become the new Denver DA is campaigning on it. I see a HD digital web based high tech version of the old hotel detective as in the black and white movies of olden times. Big Brother is not just watching. He is taking notes. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 3, 2016 Anyone read the book 1984 recently? Big brother has no business nosing around like this. This type of government bs really pissed me off. Next thing you know well have hidden cameras in our TV so we can be spied on. They already rewrite history. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Actually, doing porn in the state of Colorado is illegal. Heck, doing porn in the US is illegal, but some states have found loopholes around it. I just wish everyone would quit telling me how to have sex(or not to). I actually kind of like this idea as the thought that people are forced to do this saddens me, and trying to catch them is tricky so if it was used solely for the purpose of catching traffickers-then I am for it. If they want to tell me how to do the wild thing, then they can shove it up their... Xoxo, Samantha Sheppard Edited July 3, 2016 by SultryKitten 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said: Anyone read the book 1984 recently? Big brother has no business nosing around like this. This type of government bs really pissed me off. Next thing you know well have hidden cameras in our TV so we can be spied on. They already rewrite history. George Orwell's CLASSIC 1984 is still prolly my fav of all time. And I read a lot. This type of guvment piss you off, what about a Donald Chump guvment? Just sayin. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 2 hours ago, JustFine said: If its all on hidden camera that makes it porn right? Which is legal. So we just all just need to get porn licenses or whatnot.. Has nothing to do with porn. It is getting people in a hotel room for any reason to submit photos of the room to be entered into a google images type data base to allow LE to search BP and other ads against and ultimately identify which hotels are booking escorts and/or what hotel a certain escort is in. 1 hour ago, SultryKitten said: Actually, doing porn in the state of Colorado is illegal. Heck, doing porn in the US is illegal, but some states have found loopholes around it. I just wish everyone would quit telling me how to have sex(or not to). I actually kind of like this idea as the thought that people are forced to do this saddens me, and trying to catch them is tricky so if it was used solely for the purpose of catching traffickers-then I am for it. If they want to tell me how to do the wild thing, then they can shove it up their... Xoxo, Samantha Sheppard Sadly, Samantha according to the feds and the do gooder groups YOU ARE being trafficked. This little plot is to get more vigilanties involved in getting YOU busted for your adult choices (and your clients) and getting law enforcement and sociologists grant money and allowing DA's to posture for higher office, etc. If it were truly aimed at underage exploitation and enslavement i would be all for it. Unfortunately by current definitions under law and action ANY form of prostitution regardless of age of participants and willingness is defined as trafficking. Those that truly use minors or even adults by literal force deserve to be hung by their genitalia in the public square. Unfortunately all these activists and grant seeking LE's snare mainly willing adults and make no distinction. IMHO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 I made the unfortunate mistake of starting an argument on facebook about this. It's a horrible idea. Consenting adults will be arrested as a result and the unfortunate trafficking victims will just be put through the system and not get the help they're promised or that the general public believes they get. The only clever part of the whole thing is asking the general population to help. It's not spying it's building a database. And since people are so convinced that there are an overwhelming number of American trafficking victims they will do their part. No Big Brother needed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 3 hours ago, gr8owl said: Has nothing to do with porn. It is getting people in a hotel room for any reason to submit photos of the room to be entered into a google images type data base to allow LE to search BP and other ads against and ultimately identify which hotels are booking escorts and/or what hotel a certain escort is in. Sadly, Samantha according to the feds and the do gooder groups YOU ARE being trafficked. This little plot is to get more vigilanties involved in getting YOU busted for your adult choices (and your clients) and getting law enforcement and sociologists grant money and allowing DA's to posture for higher office, etc. If it were truly aimed at underage exploitation and enslavement i would be all for it. Unfortunately by current definitions under law and action ANY form of prostitution regardless of age of participants and willingness is defined as trafficking. Those that truly use minors or even adults by literal force deserve to be hung by their genitalia in the public square. Unfortunately all these activists and grant seeking LE's snare mainly willing adults and make no distinction. IMHO Believe me, I know! Seen it to many times from the cops to the providers about how it is for their safety that they are busting them...blah, blah, blah!!! Religion and politics is such a pain in our arse! Why can't we all just get laid, and get along?! ;-) If they used it for a valid reason, I would say sure, but I know they won't! Laws would work better if they made them more specific instead of generalizing them to fit their own agendas. Ugh! xoxo, Samantha Sheppard 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 3 hours ago, gr8owl said: Sadly, Samantha according to the feds and the do gooder groups YOU ARE being trafficked. ... As explained in this thread. The relevant US Code is here. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 7 hours ago, JustFine said: If I buy the 1984 dvd will I be put on some watch list then? I'm actually curious now to know how many members here are politicians, cause those are the only ones above the law and able to skirt any LE issues. And after seeing the founding fathers on Hist Channel I figure I have to join a secret society like Ben Franklin did. and the internet is NOT secret. Why not try 'reading' the book. It is an excellent read. And written way before the dvd came along ;-) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 2 hours ago, CandiO said: Why not try 'reading' the book. It is an excellent read. And written way before the dvd came along ;-) Yes. Read the book! Also, read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley. They were both prescient men, who captured different aspects of the future we were heading for. Between the two of them, they get it right. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― George Orwell, 1984. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 Wait, they made a movie? Terrible idea! It's not a big book, 328 pages give or take. I could read it in a day. Someone else a week of nightly reading. You get invested in the characters though. Makes you think and then say oh shit this is happening now. One of the greatest weapons a person can have is the ability to read. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 1 minute ago, JustFine said: Does it count as reading if I turn the captioning on? That might get you the Cliff's Notes version. 🍅 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 4, 2016 No it doesn't count. I'm gonna have to watch it just so I can see how they messed it up. Movies and books rarely match up. Look how the great gatsby turned out. Great cinematic visuals, terrible movie. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said: No it doesn't count. I'm gonna have to watch it just so I can see how they messed it up. Movies and books rarely match up. Look how the great gatsby turned out. Great cinematic visuals, terrible movie. The book is MUCH better than the movie. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) I'm tempted to take a picture of a hotel room and send it in with the following note: "I authorize use of this picture for the purpose of stopping sex trafficking and sexual exploitation of minors. I do not authorize use of this picture for the purpose of stopping or interfering with consensual activities between adults. I am requesting to be paid a sum of $100,000 in the event of unauthorized use of this picture. By accepting this picture, you agree to the terms of the contract." Edited July 5, 2016 by N6_in_the_village "of a hotel room" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 Of course, 1984 assumed that surveillance would be involuntarily placed upon us by a tyrannical government. Oh no. For want of better communication to set up our appointments with clients/ASPs through web companies like Google (sharing gmail contents) and facebook (easily the best way to stalk someone...and the government knows it), we are voluntarily assisting big brother. Hell, we even voluntarily buy the 1984 Telescreens. Then, you have to drive somewhere to see you client or ASP. Your license plate gets scanned several times on the way there. And again when the police routinely scan your license plate in the hotel parking lot. ACLU warning And how about your "burner phone?" Think it provides you with "secure anonymous communications?" Think Again. And now, for want of better "selfies," there are going to be thousands of cell phones on the market with powerful imaging systems capable of facial recognition and Iris scanning. Think you have privacy going into that incall or outcall, now??? Not trying to scare anyone. In fact, hiding in plain sight may be our last recourse in this business. But the surveillance state is starting to get really, really, scary. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 59 minutes ago, Laplace said: Of course, 1984 assumed that surveillance would be involuntarily placed upon us by a tyrannical government. Oh no. For want of better communication to set up our appointments with clients/ASPs through web companies like Google (sharing gmail contents) and facebook (easily the best way to stalk someone...and the government knows it), we are voluntarily assisting big brother. Hell, we even voluntarily buy the 1984 Telescreens. Then, you have to drive somewhere to see you client or ASP. Your license plate gets scanned several times on the way there. And again when the police routinely scan your license plate in the hotel parking lot. ACLU warning And how about your "burner phone?" Think it provides you with "secure anonymous communications?" Think Again. And now, for want of better "selfies," there are going to be thousands of cell phones on the market with powerful imaging systems capable of facial recognition and Iris scanning. Think you have privacy going into that incall or outcall, now??? Not trying to scare anyone. In fact, hiding in plain sight may be our last recourse in this business. But the surveillance state is starting to get really, really, scary. And just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you! After today's events, I think anything is possible. I just sent off for my tiny foil hat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 50 minutes ago, Melissa Sterling said: And just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you! After today's events, I think anything is possible. I just sent off for my tiny foil cat. Here I fixed it for you...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Melissa Sterling said: And just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you! After today's events, I think anything is possible. I just sent off for my tiny foil hat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 On 7/3/2016 at 3:55 PM, Melissa Sterling said: Anyone read the book 1984 recently? Big brother has no business nosing around like this. This type of government bs really pissed me off. Next thing you know well have hidden cameras in our TV so we can be spied on. They already rewrite history. What makes you think they can't already see you through your TV? That's part of what the big change from analog to digital was about a few years ago. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Gregorysymph said: What makes you think they can't already see you through your TV? That's part of what the big change from analog to digital was about a few years ago. No reason for a hidden camera. We willingly SKYPE and FACETIME through our "SMART TV". We, not me, have welcomed big brother into our homes. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 6, 2016 2+2=5, doublethink, thoughtcrime, omnipresent government surveillance....wow, pretty spot on. H/T to all here for having an actual conversation without name calling or even others flat wrong... Even some encouragement to read! Huh, maybe us freethinkers are on to something... Special shout outs to Laplace & Melissa! Laplace you're absolutely correct & its Huxley's vision coupled with Orwell's that's mutated & overstimulated/ yet sedated society. Melissa you're certainly accurate that the history is re-written & worse yet manipulated on the fly. Yellow Journalism taken to an uglier yet level. I like reading the forum regularly & even decided lurking in the shadows wasn't going to be as much fun as participating. Watch out for this major 3rd party coming in this year. Looks good in theory & but sure did our country in 104 years ago. certainly going to be interesting, and this is the only time I'll ever quote Jimmy Buffett, "let's all get drunk & screw"... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 7, 2016 New kid on the block and he already has it figured out with Jimmy. Nice for us old timers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/5/2016 at 0:24 PM, Kaduk said: Here I fixed it for you...... Channeling Donny Dark.... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
