Posted July 24, 2015 I recently booked an appointment thru P411 with a well reviewed lady on the board . I received a reply saying she would be happy to meet me, but wanted my employer's name too! I respectfully declined to provide my employer and told her I would pass on the appointment. She said no problem. The questions I have: Do many of you guys get asked who is your employer? And ladies, do many of you ask? If so why would you need to know that? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 If so why would you need to know that? So they can ruin your life if you piss them off. Seriously. It's like entering into an arms agreement with Iran. They get nukes. You get a water pistol. Unless you truly have nothing to lose, I just can't see the logic behind entering into such an arrangement. Lots of other beautiful women on this board and on Eccie who are happy to see me with the number of P411 oks I have and nothing else. Those are the ones that get my business. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 The questions I have: Do many of you guys get asked who is your employer? I've never been asked. Since I'm self employed, it wouldn't be a problem for me! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 Yeah I don't ask specifically where, but if someone has NO references I might ask what they do. It is a conversation starter....I trust my gut more than any reference anyway. I have ways of screening a guy that do not involve getting their personal info and digging into their lives. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 So they can ruin your life if you piss them off. Seriously. It's like entering into an arms agreement with Iran. They get nukes. You get a water pistol. Unless you truly have nothing to lose, I just can't see the logic behind entering into such an arrangement. Lots of other beautiful women on this board and on Eccie who are happy to see me with the number of P411 oks I have and nothing else. Those are the ones that get my business. Nope, it's really time we stop perpetuating the crazy. Flip the switch for just a moment think outside your own box and think why that may actually be important to someone. It's not nukes versus squirt guns, it's a pretty equal match. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 Nope, it's really time we stop perpetuating the crazy. Flip the switch for just a moment think outside your own box and think why that may actually be important to someone. It's not nukes versus squirt guns, it's a pretty equal match. Uh oh. Cue the guy eating popcorn GIF. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 Uh oh. Cue the guy eating popcorn GIF. Why uh-oh? Because here comes Lucy's mouth? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 I would never provide such info. You'd be crazy to do so. Look elsewhere. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 24, 2015 So they can ruin your life if you piss them off. ^^^this^^^ Not a good idea to give out your personal information, just ask the people on this form who have been outed, and have suffered major consequences from bat shit crazy hookers. Lots of other beautiful women on this board and on Eccie who are happy to see me with the number of P411 oks I have and nothing else. Those are the ones that get my business. Please don't forget TER gentlemen. Nope, it's really time we stop perpetuating the crazy. Flip the switch for just a moment think outside your own box and think why that may actually be important to someone. It's not nukes versus squirt guns, it's a pretty equal match. Your wrong, someone needs to warn the guys about these Bat Shit Crazy Hookers. So the guys can decide for themselves on weather or not they wanna risk getting outed if something goes wrong. I will continue to warn the guys. And give them another option to protect them, its also an option that does work for both parties such getting p411. Wow ..... This is not a one way street here, where the hookers get to make all the rules and tuff shit for the guys. Not cool, not fair to the guys. If these Bat Shit Crazy Hookers stopped their shit, this wouldn't be a problem. Just ask the people on this form who have been outed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 Oh Yeah! I forgot to mention. She also wanted to CONTACT my employer about me! Now that is ballsy,or what ever the equal woman term is for that. Seriously? Like I am going to give out my name and employer? An old girl friend of mine used to say " I was born at night but not LAST NIGHT". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 I thought the purpose of having a P411 account was so that one wouldn't have to give out personal information, beyond the initial P411 process. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 No, I've never been asked. And I would never divulge. I just move on to someone a little less nosy, who understands the the definition of discretion. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 I thought the purpose of having a P411 account was so that one wouldn't have to give out personal information, beyond the initial P411 process. Each provider listed on P411 runs their business as they see fit. Some still require references despite abundant OKays, for example. For many (most I've encountered) my P411 account has been sufficient. There was an occasion, previous century, where I was asked to bring a pay stub. She looked at it in my hand, and it was game on. I think it was just a bit of LE check. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 I trust my gut more than any reference anyway. ^^This^^ & ^^This^^ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 someone needs to warn the guys about these Bat Shit Crazy Hookers. Thanks Nikki! I needed the laugh. I think with a little digging into what providers put on the net (i.e. social media, ads, message boards, ect) the guys have a pretty good idea as to who the "bat shit crazy" providers are. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 25, 2015 Oh Yeah! I forgot to mention. She also wanted to CONTACT my employer about me! Now that is ballsy,or what ever the equal woman term is for that. Seriously? Like I am going to give out my name and employer? An old girl friend of mine used to say " I was born at night but not LAST NIGHT". DANG:eek: ........ I have never called a clients employer, and I never will. The ok's on your p411 are your references. Not your employer. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 26, 2015 Oh Yeah! I forgot to mention. She also wanted to CONTACT my employer about me! WHAT:confused:?????? REALLY:confused:?????? did she also ask if she could screen your wife or SO if you couldn't give her that info?????? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 26, 2015 Thanks Nikki! I needed the laugh. I think with a little digging into what providers put on the net (i.e. social media, ads, message boards, etc) the guys have a pretty good idea as to who the "bat shit crazy" providers are. ^^This^^ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 27, 2015 I think you did the right thing by moving on. There are more batshit crazy hookers than most of the men realize. If you are 411 approved and have references that should have been more than enough Just my .02 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 27, 2015 Oh Yeah! I forgot to mention. She also wanted to CONTACT my employer about me! Now that is ballsy,or what ever the equal woman term is for that. Seriously? Like I am going to give out my name and employer? An old girl friend of mine used to say " I was born at night but not LAST NIGHT". Maybe she was looking for a better job and she wanted your job? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 27, 2015 I seem to be missing the big issue here. I've been a member of P411 for years and have never read anything or been made the promise that my membership automatically entitles me to see the providers on the system. I've not read it in some time however I do believe it says in the rules and guidelines you may be asked for further screening information by the providers on the system. There are countless threads here and on every site I'm a member of about P411 being nothing more then a tool for all parties. From the OP's account of the exchange the provider wasn't rude. She asked for the information he declined to provide it and she declined the appointment. She moved on and IMO so should the OP. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say maybe there's more to this story and that's the reasoning for the post. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 27, 2015 Or tell the SO the appointment details while you are on the way. And maybe its not the escort who is crazy but her SO or management wanting to get rid of a favorite client of hers. Just don't ever give out personal info. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 27, 2015 Why uh-oh? Because here comes Lucy's mouth? You said it, not me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 28, 2015 Honestly, this sort of screening is pretty easy to spoof. I probably wouldn't rely on it as a provider. But, maybe there is more to the whole thing than I understand. So they can ruin your life if you piss them off. Seriously. It's like entering into an arms agreement with Iran. They get nukes. You get a water pistol. Unless you truly have nothing to lose, I just can't see the logic behind entering into such an arrangement. Lots of other beautiful women on this board and on Eccie who are happy to see me with the number of P411 oks I have and nothing else. Those are the ones that get my business. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 28, 2015 Oh Geez... Back in the day...5,6,7 years ago; this practice was a measure for legitimate provides in town to verify new clients. "Who do you work for, what is your companies website?"...provider simply calls the main switchboard of your employer, asks for you...than hangs up; googles company website and there you are-CEO and new client must be legit, right? Well, no different that hobbyist need to do their basic research, so do providers? This isn't rocket science and with digit technology it is seamless to do a background check...if in doubt-either party simply don't schedule? Doesn't take much to research that the OP has been around here on TOB for awhile...simply send a PM through TOB...along with the initial P411 contact-no one should ask for an employer? Funny thing about this contacting employer switchboard verification process...also, back "in the day" it didn't take long for LE to catch on and set up switchboard re-routes and bogus employer voicemail's. Long-term, legit providers very quickly stopped using that verification measure. Any provider still asking for "employer info", taking those verification steps; is not up on technology or risk involved to herself for relying on that outdated screening process? As a general consumer, I'd never give my SSN, employer info...honestly home address and phone number for that matter...we all get unsolicited sales calls. A seasoned hobbyist pays a little more for discretion and a "well-reviewed" long-term provider ensures, seamlessly screening for her safety sake? Just sayin 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 28, 2015 Yeah I don't ask specifically where, but if someone has NO references I might ask what they do. It is a conversation starter....I trust my gut more than any reference anyway. I have ways of screening a guy that do not involve getting their personal info and digging into their lives. Exactly...that's why your still here, safe and a great attitude...in demand 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 28, 2015 Funny thing about this contacting employer switchboard verification process...also, back "in the day" it didn't take long for LE to catch on and set up switchboard re-routes and bogus employer voicemail's. Long-term, legit providers very quickly stopped using that verification measure. Any provider still asking for "employer info", taking those verification steps; is not up on technology or risk involved to herself for relying on that outdated screening process? ^^This^^ This is true, this is why its pointless to ask for employment, another reason why guys don't need to give out employment information. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 28, 2015 ^^This^^ This is true, this is why its pointless to ask for employment, another reason why guys don't need to give out employment information. Voluntarily providing "Employment" information is 3rd or 4th meeting, idle conversation, no details, amongst trusted partners-period. There is your compass. Be real, have legit references, join P411 or take risks with some women/BP/LE...it's really that simple. For any legit providers, verifying a "hobbyist" is a cake walk and, the OP followed his gut instinct the same way providers do-in the end, safe & sound. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 29, 2015 Of course we ask so we know which side of the fence you are on. I am not going to call them I want to keep you as a client I just want something showing that you are who you say you are. You know some sort of documentation supporting your employment. If a 0porovider does not check then she allows room for error and drama that no one needs this only works if we work together to keep each other safe. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 29, 2015 I recently booked an appointment thru P411 with a well reviewed lady on the board . I received a reply saying she would be happy to meet me, but wanted my employer's name too! I respectfully declined to provide my employer and told her I would pass on the appointment. She said no problem. The questions I have: Do many of you guys get asked who is your employer? And ladies, do many of you ask? If so why would you need to know that? well played camper. If she thinks she needs that info, that's her decision. doesn't mean you need to provide it. I wouldn't. what's next - "I need your wife's name and phone number" . . . . . 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
