Posted March 28, 2015 I ran across a BP provider's recent ad (she show her face) that led me to check TOB reviews of her & since the reviews were somewhat old, I went to the google machine seeing if there was more recent information & entered the usual stuff, name, phone number, email address (from the TOB review.) I expect this is pretty standard for a client trying to see if a non-P411 provider is legit, yes? What I expected to find were reviews from TER or other boards, but one of the hits was the provider's FB page. Question: Would it be weird/inappropriate/creepy to email this finding to her (I've not seen the lady, but would like to.) Not trying to be a 'white knight' or anything, just seems like she may not realize the Internet is a small place, but on the other hand she has reviews on TOB dating back a couple of years. Is it just better to leave it be and move along? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I would say something! Just a friendly note. Our info is all over the place and sometimes it's hard to keep it straight. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 It's been pointed out that a few providers are just crazy, and will start vendettas with clients / potential clients / other providers over the smallest issues. If you send a "friendly note" with that information (her provider phone or e-mail leads to her facebook page) to a provider you don't know, she might believe you are trying to out her or threatening her. So I would considering sending that "friendly note" only from a single-use, throw-away e-mail address. You would still fulfill your purpose of warning her about the information you found. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 It's been pointed out that a few providers are just crazy, and will start vendettas with clients / potential clients / other providers over the smallest issues. If you send a "friendly note" with that information (her provider phone or e-mail leads to her facebook page) to a provider you don't know, she might believe you are trying to out her or threatening her. So I would considering sending that "friendly note" only from a single-use, throw-away e-mail address. You would still fulfill your purpose of warning her about the information you found. This was my thought also. Use a separate email from your hobby email. You don't want yogi@xxxxxx.com or yogi who post on TOB to show up on a black list. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I would say something! Just a friendly note. Our info is all over the place and sometimes it's hard to keep it straight. She made her bed. Let her lie in it. No need to be Johnny save-the-day. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) So we just automatically assume the worst in everyone now? We're going to treat all providers like they are crazy? I guess I will just assume that all you gents are potential [snip} and treat you all accordingly. If you guys are so afraid of ending up on black lists, it's easy, just stop participating. Since us ladies just can't be trusted for anything. Edited March 28, 2015 by boink36 Forbidden topic removed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I have noticed ads where phone numbers lead to facebook, to craigslist ads for furniture and puppies, to voter registration list with full personal info, etc. and even real world businesses. Main thing have done is post here on occasion to try to warn of this kind of stuff. I have done the friendly note thing and gotten both a "thank you" and a "wtf is it to ya are ya a stalker?" The latter was a bit concerning. Takes all kinds. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) I guess I will just assume that all you gents are potential [snip} and treat you all accordingly. You already do that, it's called screening. Pot, meet kettle. Edited March 28, 2015 by boink36 Quote edited. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) I would say something! Just a friendly note. Our info is all over the place and sometimes it's hard to keep it straight. She made her bed. Let her lie in it. No need to be Johnny save-the-day. If you don't know what, whom your dealing with. There is a possibility it turns out bad. So don't say shit. Then you don't have to worry about a hooker going bat shit crazy. So we just automatically assume the worst in everyone now? No one said that. We're going to treat all providers like they are crazy? In order to have the mind set of being a hooker/john you have to be a little fucking nuts. At least I am not in denial. I guess I will just assume that all you gents are potential [snip} and treat you all accordingly. Oh shit.......Please me know who this works out for your wallet. Last time I checked they pay you.... LMAO... Your not paying them. If you don't like what the guy is doing, you don't see them. Real simple. If you guys are so afraid of ending up on black lists, it's easy, just stop participating. Since us ladies just can't be trusted for anything. Kaboom Baby......Dito, same thing can be said about us hookers. Rule #1 Do not ever trust anyone in this game. Anyone can turn on you. Look at what happen to me, look at what happen to the other girls, and the guys. How many of us had this happen? I am starting to lose count on how many of escorts/clients have been outed. My personal recommendation is, don't say anything. Edited March 28, 2015 by boink36 Quote edited. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I have done the friendly note thing and gotten both a "thank you" and a "wtf is it to ya are ya a stalker?" The latter was a bit concerning. Takes all kinds. Perfect example... This why you keep your mouth shut, and don't say shit! Although I am sure there are few girls who end up understanding the warning, like myself and several other girls who got outed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 30, 2015 I've had 2 similar instances. One was the exact same. Provider gave me her number after an appointment was made, and I googled it to make sure nothing jumped out at me. That lead to a comment on Facebook. Never said anything. Another happens to be a girl I went to high school with. Although she does look different now and I didn't immediately recognize her. Essentially I had been interested in making an appointment for a while, but this provider only does outcalls, so I hadn't, but was familiar to her ads. One day on Facebook, I noticed the picture of someone who commented on a friend's post, and it looked familiar. So I went to their page and they have the same pictures in their ads and on Facebook. Glad I found it, and won't make any appointment if she ended up doing incalls ever. Both times I kept my mouth shut, as I don't want to be accused of anything. I would think using a different phone, or not putting the same pictures in your ad and Facebook would be obvious if you wanted to keep your identity private. Also using pictures with your face in a town you are from and know a lot of people. But it isn't my place to point it out, especially if I do not know what the reaction will be. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 30, 2015 I would say something! Just a friendly note. Our info is all over the place and sometimes it's hard to keep it straight. ^ This. And to those who say it's her problem, that is (a) a true statement and ( pretty fucking cold of you. Yogi, if you don't want to bother, PM me and I will tell her. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 31, 2015 To the OP follow your instinct. I can only roughly guess after you posted this how many PM's you received asking for her information and the reasons given for asking. One is asking for it publicly going to contact her on your behalf. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 31, 2015 I've run across a lot of info a few times. One I found a TON. Real name, home address, facebook page, etc. Way too much. I probably should tell her, but have the same concerns everyone else has. Don't want her to think I'm a stalker. Just doing my homework. Maybe if I see her a couple more times and feel like there's some trust. Ladies, please, google all your info just as a client would. We don't spend hours on this stuff, just a few minutes. If we can find that much info that fast, something is wrong. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 1, 2015 I probably should tell her, but have the same concerns everyone else has. Don't want her to think I'm a stalker. I suggest getting a NEW email address (hotmail, google, yahoo, etc). Send her an email. Then, never use that email account again. She'll be notified, and never know what you found. You'll be happy you did the right thing! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 1, 2015 I wouldnt tell her either. I found who is was and every pic she uses on her ads are on her fb page. She is not trying to hide at all. It kinda reminds me back in the craiglist days in L.A. which was a pretty good place to find hot non-pro's. But alot of them would use personal emails that lead to either myspace or fb page. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 1, 2015 She made her bed. Let her lie in it. No need to be Johnny save-the-day. Gee, its a damn good thing we are all not like this. What a world this would be. I myself would appreciate a little FYI about this , especially if it involves Facebook. I have worked very diligently at keeping my FB separate from Jez. The few hobbyists that do know I consider real friends. And they are aware of the fact that Jez and ______ are totally separate entities. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 1, 2015 FWIW, I did follow up. Created an email and told her. She didn't care and kind of made me feel like I was being a bother. She made a comment that implied that it was weird that I would google her information. Glad I did it the way I did. I don't think any less of her and I'll see her again. But glad she doesn't know me by that name. Or this one. I'll do it again if I run across it again just because I think it's right. But if you chose to do the same, the advice in this thread is right. Do it with caution. It didn't go badly, really, but from that experience, I can easily see how it could. And I wouldn't want to see her again if I'd done it from my hobby email. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 1, 2015 FWIW, I did follow up. Created an email and told her. She didn't care and kind of made me feel like I was being a bother. She made a comment that implied that it was weird that I would google her information. Glad I did it the way I did. I don't think any less of her and I'll see her again. But glad she doesn't know me by that name. Or this one. I'll do it again if I run across it again just because I think it's right. But if you chose to do the same, the advice in this thread is right. Do it with caution. It didn't go badly, really, but from that experience, I can easily see how it could. And I wouldn't want to see her again if I'd done it from my hobby email. Thank you for doing the right thing! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 2, 2015 Thank you for doing the right thing! Meh. Maybe. I just found the other one I'd found a ton of info on. I'll try it again. Hope it meets with a better response. But it does feel like the right thing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 2, 2015 As others, have turned up personal information by Googling pics or numbers. What I've also turned up in some of those cases is personal information for other providers. Usually a provider is a Facebook Friend of some other provider. And so on and so on. Can at times go several layers with Facebook and find many familiar faces without fake names. Voter registration for a phone number might not be valid. When did a website get those registration records? Phone numbers get recycled, so, current ASP with the number might not be person on the voter registration. TOB had a thread years ago, phone for provider when searched turned up a newsletter where the phone was used as contact for a self-help group for parolees. Lot's of folks jumped to conclusion that LE was stinging, not looking that that newsletter was from a couple of years earlier, so, number most likely reused. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 5, 2015 These days, I would appreciate knowing. When I was newer, I didn't understand how utterly vicious and crazy people are, and that people actually do want to want to hurt us and our families. I didn't understand that although it be very few, there are some true unrelentless nutjobs out there. Unfortunately some of these people are among us portraying themselves as "normal" and the "victim" themselves. I found myself in the same situation as the Op recently. A new client sent me personal info, that revealed wayyyyyy too much about him, and if in the wrong hands, could hurt him. I did let him know via email, and made some suggestions to him on how he could screen, but protect his very personal information. He did appreciate it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 5, 2015 These days, I would appreciate knowing. When I was newer, I didn't understand how utterly vicious and crazy people are, and that people actually do want to want to hurt us and our families. I didn't understand that although it be very few, there are some true unrelentless nutjobs out there. Unfortunately some of these people are among us portraying themselves as "normal" and the "victim" themselves. You absolutely right. Its really messed up. But this how it is. I found myself in the same situation as the Op recently. A new client sent me personal info, that revealed wayyyyyy too much about him, and if in the wrong hands, could hurt him. I did let him know via email, and made some suggestions to him on how he could screen, but protect his very personal information. He did appreciate it. One thing I can say about being Holly's friend is that she is loving and a kind person, looks out for others. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 5, 2015 Gee, its a damn good thing we are all not like this. What a world this would be. I myself would appreciate a little FYI about this , especially if it involves Facebook. I have worked very diligently at keeping my FB separate from Jez. The few hobbyists that do know I consider real friends. And they are aware of the fact that Jez and ______ are totally separate entities. If you have ever accessed your FB persona and your Jez persona from the same comouter, FB already has them linked together. enough research of one will eventually lead to the other. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 5, 2015 ... FB already has them linked together.... Yet another reason for not doing business with FB! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 5, 2015 If you have ever accessed your FB persona and your Jez persona from the same comouter, FB already has them linked together. enough research of one will eventually lead to the other. Please do not assume FB is the only one that does this shit. Search for some particular thing you wish to buy and use ANY browser or search engine of your choice (bing and google being the worst). See how long - hint, less than 24 hours - before all manner of sites you visit will have side ads that just "happen" to be selling what you searched for. Just staying away from FB will NOT protect you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
