Posted December 31, 2014 So anyway sorry about the posting title. I want to bring up a topic that has bothered me for some time but I do not want to offend any lovely providers or their associates, in regards to somewhat unethical "pimping" practices that I have encountered. So I have only met with 2 ladies in my short career as a john/hobbyist or what have you...and I decided instead of getting laid what I am really looking for is a girlfriend and I would never be happy with just a physical encounter without being able to continue it into a relationship/ friendship. So after a horrible experience with Katie Kreme (the gods must of cursed me for my blasphemy) I had an amazing experience with a young lady who I immediately wanted to be my girlfriend as she mentioned she didn't have a boyfriend when we met. So after seeing her the first time, I sent her texts offering her a job and saying that she could stay with me (perhaps a bit forward on my part). The texts I got back indicated that "she" at first was interested but she stopped responding to my texts the next day, turned off her phone and didn't post any adds for a week. When her add came back up, I sent a text from another phone asking about setting up a meeting. When I got a response I asked why she hadn't responded and invited her over to talk. "She" responded she wasn't interested in meeting up or accepting my proposal but had a male friend who was interested in my job offer and wanted to come over to talk, to which I replied sorry no dudes... So after this I kind of got into the f this stupid bleeper...mentality and didn't see her for a month but decided to see her one last time. She informed me that the person responded to my texts was not her but "a dude who got really pissed when I made those kinds of propositions"...basically saying she had her pimp responding to the texts even though her add said "100% independent, no driver" etc. She also said she was happy with her night job but would consider my offer but to not send any texts to that phone as it really made "him" really mad, and she would contact me if she wanted to and could get my number. Now I understand that its safer for girls in this line of work to have a bodyguard on call in case of violence, or somebody doesn't pay etc and I understand for these pimps that they make their living helping to sell these girls... or more politely "protecting these girls" and organizing their services or what have you. But this whole thing left me with a bad feeling that this girl was trapped in her "night job" with a vampire that will do anything to not let his source of income escape, even creating a hostile situation when this "source of income" wants to leave or is jeopardized. And maybe I am trying to be too much of a "capn save a hoe"...but I just wish I would have been more successful in giving this lady a chance to not have to go around fucking any dudes who decide to call her...as she seems like a very sweet young lady that I would be very happy spending the rest of my life with... As na?ve and offensive as this post may be for some, I do apologize but I just want to share my experience and thoughts as I am sure there is a lot of this type of thing going on...some better some worse from my perspective and probably its me with the problem as the universe is in harmony with itself regardless of what I think and I am sure I don't understand the full system/ situation which I am judging. First I would like to see 100% of my money going to the hard working ladies who deserve it and not see some unfair % going to someone waiting in the car...I would like to see a situation where these "pimps" are grateful for everything they have already gotten from these ladies and want to help them, instead of trying to hold them down and take everything they possibly can for as long as they can get away with it, sabotaging their chances to escape...I know its not all like this and I would assume they are actually great lovers, friends, etc which I in my jejune position regard as a kind of Stockholm syndrome...but I would like to see pimps be more lovely, supporting and altruistic towards their "hoes" but I suppose that is like wishing mma fighters were nicer and more cuddly...or killers be less homicidal. Any way I digress, sorry for writing out a TLDNR, and I wish all of you pimps, hoes and johns, have a very happy new years! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 WOW, I never realized...... I'm speechless. Where is Mother Teresa when we need her. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 First of all I commend you on knowing where your logic falls short, and knowing that it is wishful thinking. The cold hard truth as you call it, is that you cannot save these young ladies. If you are truly in the "hobby" to see the ladies for their services, great. If you are truly seeking a girlfriend, go onto a dating site. In my experience, you will see this type of servitude on Backpage and they will be very young. For me personally, I cannot see anyone under the age of 32, it creeps me out. Plus, the more mature providers are (in my experience) better at providing quality services. Stay off BP and see well reviewed ladies. Regardless of age, the ladies with a good reputation do not travel with "friends" who take their money, therefore you will be less likely to want to be captain save a ho. He is, after all, a mythical super hero unless you have a shit ton of money, and even then you have to wonder is this for real or is she using me for my money. Sounds to me like you do not belong in the hobby scene if you cannot come to terms with the harsh realities that go along with it. Bottom line, don't hobby with your heart.....ever. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) So in summary, you saw a young woman once, and immediately decided she should move in with you, that you'll support her (via the "job offer"), and she should live with you for the rest of your life. Does that sound like something a rational person would do? If I were her, even if I didn't have a pimp I would PRETEND I had an angry, crazy, motherfucker of a pimp. Edited December 31, 2014 by Kaduk specifics.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 So after a horrible experience with Katie Kreme (the gods must of cursed me for my blasphemy) I had an amazing experience with a young lady who I immediately wanted to be my girlfriend as she mentioned she didn't have a boyfriend when we met. So after seeing her the first time, I sent her texts offering her a job and saying that she could stay with me (perhaps a bit forward on my part). You definitely went from one extreme to the other. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 If I were her, even if I didn't have a pimp I would PRETEND I had an angry, crazy, motherfucker of a pimp. What he said. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Wow. After reading this, I kind of understand why hookers like to screen. This creeps ME out. I can only imagine how she must feel. SMH 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) So in summary, you saw a young woman once, and immediately decided she should move in with you, that you'll support her (via the "job offer"), and she should live with you for the rest of your life. Does that sound like something a rational person would do? If I were her, even if I didn't have a pimp I would PRETEND I had an angry, crazy, motherfucker of a pimp. What he said. +1!!! Sometimes it's easier to lie about "someone else" then to have to continuously respond with "thanks, but no thanks" because the other person just won't drop the topic. Hell, I've been out before and had guys hitting on me and INSTANT DIKE LESBIAN comes out. (You can thank my former Military career and MMA days for that) Shit stops really quick at that point. I am not blind enough by my world of rainbows and sunshine to believe that there aren't any young women out there forced into this line of work... I know there are young women out there who don't have a choice and that's a sad truth. But there are many ways for the women to get help if they truly want it. "If there is a Will, there is a Way". Offering a women a job and a place to stay just after 1 meeting is very bold and semi irrational. How could I trust you to not turn into another pimp? We just met. I just put on an act for you and it's not like you walked into my door 100% honest with all your cards on the table. I'm not here to bash you and your actions. They may have been genuine. To think that your post wasn't going to open a can of worms was entirely irrational. I'm all too curios now to see who jumps on the "Save a Hoe" bandwagon... Take this a lesson learned. You are not mentally stable enough to visit the ladies. You got burned by Katie Cream and then you wanted to whisk away the next you visited. You need to back off and do proper research before you attempt to venture into your next meeting. There are many wonderful women here to choose from. And just because some have pimps doesn't mean they don't have the opportunity to think/act for themselves. Ok, that's enough rambling for me. I need to go answer to my cat who's fat and thinks he needs to be fed for the 3rd time today... My Pimp is my Pussy Cat!!!! LOL :cool: Edited December 31, 2014 by Kaduk per OP's request... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Wow. After reading this, I kind of understand why hookers like to screen. This creeps ME out. I can only imagine how she must feel. SMH See? We told you so. LOL:) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Wow. After reading this, I kind of understand why hookers like to screen. This creeps ME out. I can only imagine how she must feel. SMH Kind of understand? Countless women citing it's importance just isn't enough? Sadly the OPs brand of whack is not uncommon but thankfully he keeps it close to the surface so it's easier to spot from a distance. Captain Save A Ho is not new, making assumptions on crappy stereotypes leads to posts like the OPs. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 I want to bring up a topic that has bothered me for some time but I do not want to offend any lovely providers or their associates, in regards to somewhat unethical "pimping" practices that I have encountered. Aren't you the guy who said this, back in October? What I actually meant was "I have decided to abstain from sex to keep my mind, soul and body pure for my one true love OR somebody stupid enough to have sex with me without charging...." IMHO, this is definitely not the "hobby" for you. Try matchdotcom, or maybe a psychiatrist. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Offering a girl a job and a place to stay just after 1 meeting is very bold and semi irrational. How could I trust you to not turn into another pimp? We have been subjected to OP's "save-a-hoe" rants before. And, I believe, OP as "pimp-in-training" was one of the working theories posited ("troll" being another one). http://www.theotherboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39905 Anyway, I echo the others here. OP: ASPs don't need you to save them. As an aside, I would pay big money to see Justina go all MMA on someone pulling this shit on her. EDIT: pfunk beat me to the punch on linking back to OP's first rant. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 I have to admit, I'm kinda curious what this "job" would be? My first guess would be it involved "putting the lotion on its skin", but it would have to be a real job if she really had a male friend interested. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 So in summary, you saw a young woman once, and immediately decided she should move in with you, that you'll support her (via the "job offer"), and she should live with you for the rest of your life. Does that sound like something a rational person would do? If I were her, even if I didn't have a pimp I would PRETEND I had an angry, crazy, motherfucker of a pimp. If you met a girl at a bar or any other social function and she stalked you like this I would you would be running scared of her. We have all seen ladies that we think would be great for the life long partner, then we wake up. If any woman had taken you up on your offer I would question her motive. Just my 2 cents worth 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Kind of understand? Countless women citing it's importance just isn't enough? Sadly the OPs brand of whack is not uncommon but thankfully he keeps it close to the surface so it's easier to spot from a distance. Captain Save A Ho is not new, making assumptions on crappy stereotypes leads to posts like the OPs. It's JMO but I think this is because some guys see escorts as an object they can have or own. it's a lower form of female discrimination, you are not only a lowly woman but an escort to boot. one of these days we will move past this kind of shit. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 31, 2014 Captain Save A Ho's and pimps fit squarely into the same box.... manipulating and controlling women for their own warped purposes and sense of self esteem. Young ladies are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves, and are capable of making their own decisions. Whether those decisions are good, bad or somewhere in the middle.... it's of no one's concern but her own. It's the same mentality that thinks women are incapable of "choosing" to be a prostitute. She simply must be a "victim"... because don't you know all women are morons and can't think for themselves? They just need men to protect and save them from all of their silly thoughts! Spare me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2015 ...Some pseudo-intellectual rambiling contradictions... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2015 If you want a relationship, why not try a dating site like Match.com or a sugar daddy site like seeking arrangement? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 1, 2015 And thus we have an amazing illustration of what happens when you don't understand the nature of the transaction, probably also what happens when you have not been in a REAL relationship. If you've never been in a REAL relationship, you don't know what it looks like. You don't know that it does not START with sex and a stuffed envelope. I feel sorry for this individual, and I'm shocked he did not get more assaulted by the board. Admirable restraint. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2, 2015 OMG Justina, I love rainbows, sunshine, and even cats. And I love forward, strong women who are not afraid. Can I move in with you? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 2, 2015 I've definitely fallen in love...when i was stupid drunk, that one time in germany at pascha.... those times you wake up the next morning, look at your slobbering dried up on your face and say 'woops!' and move on. i think the point of your topic... (Maybe?) was supposed to be focused on pimps being the magician behind the curtain even though the lady says she's independent... but you filled it up with this other story that pretty much baited you for the beat down.... either a slip up or an excellent troll, not sure. i think its safe to assume most of the ladies on here are truly independent. I feel that i can usually spot the girls that have pimps, but you never know. I've definitely had a few encounters that i could tell a pimp was near by, but as long as i stay the role of john everything is generally ok. pimps want your business, the lady who is with the pimp can either have a mutual setup or it could be some fucked up terrible situation... who knows, but that's not really our place. i've only ever known 1 provider outside of her profession - probably because i was never her client (through a mutual friend). I've had a great time with many providers but most of them are there to provide you with a service... so just like if you were a bartender or a server at a table - they're going to laugh at your dumb jokes and make you feel relaxed... its what they do for a living. Even though i'd love to go out and get a drink with them and kick off car mirrors through capital hill, it's probably not going to happen. If you're the kind of dude that falls in love with strippers every time you go to a strip club you should probably avoid doing hobbying too much. we all have our reasons for doing this, some guys don't even FS.... others like feet. whatever the fuck that is. just relax and have fun, don't over think it. Throw your dick a party! Cowboy hats and all. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 3, 2015 When I first started the hobby, I too thought that maybe I was special and that she would remember me. What we did last time, how she "normally does not do this with everyone". Anyone heard those lines before? Right . . . IMO we are paying for a memory albeit sometimes they are AWESOME and sometimes they are WTF did I just do. I feel for you if your feelings were hurt . . . sucks bro but like all things in life all it takes is time. Time heals all wounds and sometimes a scar is all that is left to remember that memory. Another thing to consider many times the reason we (Johns) are able to meet and see and have a fun memory with these ladies is because we are willing to shell out the CASH or donation for their time. I wish you luck in your profile at the dating sites and just a bit of advise for what its worth - take you time and for GODs sake don't blow up her text - chicks don't dig guys to blow up their texts unless they are Brad Pitt and more than likely you are not! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted January 5, 2015 When I first started the hobby, I too thought that maybe I was special and that she would remember me. What we did last time, how she "normally does not do this with everyone". Anyone heard those lines before? Right . . . IMO we are paying for a memory albeit sometimes they are AWESOME and sometimes they are WTF did I just do. I feel for you if your feelings were hurt . . . sucks bro but like all things in life all it takes is time. Time heals all wounds and sometimes a scar is all that is left to remember that memory. Another thing to consider many times the reason we (Johns) are able to meet and see and have a fun memory with these ladies is because we are willing to shell out the CASH or donation for their time. I wish you luck in your profile at the dating sites and just a bit of advise for what its worth - take you time and for GODs sake don't blow up her text - chicks don't dig guys to blow up their texts unless they are Brad Pitt and more than likely you are not! Hey, even if Brad Pitt were to blow up my text, I would be annoyed in a very short time. Text takes time, and those idiotic questions like" Do you like sex"? will really piss us off. We are providers, of course we like to suck dick, have sex...etc. But the bottom line is that texting takes time, and you have know idea if we have the time to reply when it is sent to us. I don't respond until I have the private moment to do so. Same with phone calls. Because this is a private matter. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
