Posted June 10, 2016 How about some advice for newbies? How do you make a provider comfortable with no references? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2016 Don't be a douche. That's the first rule. Find a provider who's newbie friendly. Read the ad. Read reviews. Now you know what she'll do and what it costs. Saves you the questions you can't ask. Not asking those questions mixes great with rule one. Now you got a decent baseline comfort level. Book the time. Show up on time. Shower first. Use soap. Be polite. Remember rule one. Walk in, set the money down. All of it. Don't mention it. Talking money is bad in this business. Finish up. Ask her to be your reference. Repeat with the next girl. Now you got 2 so you're in like Flynn. Alternate route: Rule one still in effect. Get on p411. Win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2016 jj254 has excellent advice. And to re-iterate "don't be a douche". I'd guess this is a problem for many girls. Guys who act cocky, rude, ask personal questions, make jokey mean remarks, push for extras, try to short payment, try to overstay, try to circumvent screening, and on and on. Don't be a douche! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 13, 2016 11 hours ago, jj254 said: Ask her to be your reference. Repeat with the next girl. Now you got 2 so you're in like Flynn. Given some of what has been posted here lately, I'm wondering if this formula still works. We have heard that some of the ladies have no interest in chasing down references and see it as a waste of time, or worse, a potential for risk from vengeful competitors. I'm thinking the only way to be like Flynn these days is p411 or its equivalent. Does anyone have experience using the reference function here? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 8 hours ago, Raoul said: Given some of what has been posted here lately, I'm wondering if this formula still works. We have heard that some of the ladies have no interest in chasing down references and see it as a waste of time, or worse, a potential for risk from vengeful competitors. I'm thinking the only way to be like Flynn these days is p411 or its equivalent. Does anyone have experience using the reference function here? Haven't used it yet. Like the idea. To be 100% honest I don't think most providers screen or check references. That's just my experience. Probably go on instinct. Lot of what people post here is how it should work. Reality don't match up most times. (Not a critique. Ladies run their shop how they like. Makes no difference to me). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 See well reviewed ladies to lessen your chances of encountering a BSC (bat shit crazy) woman. I saw a well reviewed lady as my first, went through her light screening, and that was that. I have also established a reputation on TOB, and ladies have seen me based on that alone. When you put the money down, just put it down and don't mention it -- although I remember my first lady said, "Put it on the shelf" so she mentioned it before we did anything. She took off her clothes and I think she got a little nervous because I was still dressed. I was just shocked that she had taken off her clothes. Finally, she said, "You can get more comfortable," and off went the clothes as I said, "Oh yeah!" I think I said something unconscionably naive such as, "I can't believe you're naked in front of me and we just met four minutes ago." Yeah, I actually said that. But I digress. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 9 hours ago, Raoul said: Given some of what has been posted here lately, I'm wondering if this formula still works. We have heard that some of the ladies have no interest in chasing down references and see it as a waste of time, or worse, a potential for risk from vengeful competitors. I'm thinking the only way to be like Flynn these days is p411 or its equivalent. Does anyone have experience using the reference function here? I think everyone misunderstood her post, she was happy to provide them but didn't use them as her screening method. She also explained why she didn't like them. No matter how you do it getting started is always the hardest part. But there are so many newbie and reference friendly ladies that it shouldn't really be that difficult to get over the newbie hump. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 Be polite, introduce yourself and let her know that you're new. Ask her what information she would like to make her feel comfortable with seeing you, then give it to her. Like others mentioned, see well reviewed ladies. That means more than 8 reviews to some. Just like us ladies use our gut instinct, use yours. If you feel like you will not be a good match, don't see her. I'm not talking nerves, I mean you don't feel safe. Very rare btw. Most of all have fun! Oh and P411 is helpful, but expensive for some. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 Jeeez...finish filling out your profile. That has been such an ice breaker for me, here and on P411. I love to read, met a nice gal up from Dallas, we spent 20 minutes just on reading. I don't care for smokers, gals disclose they smoke but not during sessions. It at least sets a common ground, and they might even know what you might expect. My $.02. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 My 2 cents worth. 1) Read the ads top to bottom and follow the instructions for scheduling. (If you don't like their process call someone else) 2) Be 10 minutes early for your appointment and let her know you are there. (Don't worry if she doesn't return your text until a few minutes before your scheduled time) 3) Once iintroductions are made go wash your hands and leave the donation in the restroom. (Unless a different location has been specified ) She can check the donation in private if she wants and will appreciate fresh clean hands. 4) Be nice. 5) For God's sake don't make her tell you your time is up. If they are truly enjoying the session, and want to spend more time, they will stop you from leaving. 6) Don't be afraid to ask for what you want. These girls don't judge but don't be disappointed or shitty if your request is denied. Be nice and have fun. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 Be yourself, answer all her questions truthfully, respect her guidelines. Read her info on her website if she has one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 14, 2016 15 hours ago, jj254 said: To be 100% honest I don't think most providers screen or check references. I thought that same thing. I was polite enough to ask a provider (let's call her Emily) if she would provide references for me and she said "sure." I did some heavy "shopping" that day and sent requests to several new prospective friends. Every one of them checked my references and I got an email from Emily asking me what's up. I replied explaining that many of the people I was contacting wouldn't give me detailed location information until I was screened and that I honestly didn't think most of them would check. She had every right to freak out and get angry because it's definitely not her job to sit there and give out references for me, but she was super cool about it. It's hard for me to get to her area of town, but I owe her a visit and a great tip for the trouble. I'm also much more thoughtful about references and communication in general. So, this is really just another way to say: "Rule #1: don't be a douche." Sometimes you can be one without even knowing it. Happens to me all the time. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 4, 2016 On 6/10/2016 at 7:40 AM, EricV said: How about some advice for newbies? How do you make a provider comfortable with no references? How I got here and what I’ve learned along the way…one man’s perspective 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2016 On June 10, 2016 at 7:40 AM, EricV said: How about some advice for newbies? How do you make a provider comfortable with no references? Getting a P411 account is your best option. There are many local Denver escorts who are newbie friendly on P411. Some of them offer p411 discount. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 10, 2016 make sure your haggling skills are up to snuff. -1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
