Posted March 28, 2015 Wow, what a day! Three TERRIBLE reviews out of the latest four on the Board! http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=6853 http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=6858 http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=6856 And I thought I was having a bad day. I can't get these comments out of my head: "When I managed to get some sort of erection, she came on top. When I held her waist, she screamed and said I was hurting her." "She said she always requires guys to leave underwear on. I told her that she advertises in both body rub AND escort. That's when she came unhinged! She said she had recorded our conversation AND we were on video and she was going to call the cops..." "Smoked during the session. Spent more time talking. Didn't do anything to try to get it up or keep it up. Answered a phone call in middle of session. " Talk about performance anxiety --> Mr Big is staring at the floor. These guys deserve the TOFTT Award for March 27th, 2015. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 Wow, what a day! Three TERRIBLE reviews out of the latest four on the Board! Thanks, Pete, that made my day! And thanks to those who TOFTT. I'm staring at the BP situation in COS thinking - there's no one on here I remotely want to see. And now reading those reviews makes me think that there IS something worse than spending Friday night alone with a pocket full of money. So I feel better about life. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I don't quite get the smoking during session one. Did he actually get all the services listed for $60 and still claim it was a ripoff? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I read these reviews and wonder why more guys do not flip out when this shit happens. This is pure rip off. I have had it happen to me twice in my hobby career. The next time, I will not be so nice. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I read these reviews and wonder why more guys do not flip out when this shit happens. This is pure rip off. I have had it happen to me twice in my hobby career. The next time, I will not be so nice. I see a few problems with being "not so nice" - Her protection comes in from the next room or closet. - LEOs get involved, charge you with assault. - She goes BSC & outs you to the world - She goes BSC & does you bodily harm (knife, gun, karate, ...) - Any combination of the above. None of which is worth a few hundred $s. Tuition at U of Hard Knocks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I don't quite get the smoking during session one. Did he actually get all the services listed for $60 and still claim it was a ripoff? Perhaps he expected a deep spiritual connection during his 15 minute session. But she must have been quite talented to get a lot of talking, a cigarette, a phone call, all stuffed into 15 minutes and still have time for TF. Sounds like shitty time was had by all. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 could be worse .... say Pueblo: http://pueblo.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lf-lng-exprnced-plamat-hee-fr-everones-pleasure/18187705 For extra head shaker search the pic. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 If you go looking on BP, and choose un-reviewed girls, this will happen sometimes. (Used to happen to me plenty.) I can understand wanting to find new girls, but you should be prepared for these unpleasant experiences. Chalk it up to the perils of exploration. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 Was thinking the same thing, anyone notice a certain pattern to these reviews. There are alot of new ladies on 411, new ladies on EB and visitors. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 If you go looking on BP, and choose un-reviewed girls, this will happen sometimes. (Used to happen to me plenty.) I can understand wanting to find new girls, but you should be prepared for these unpleasant experiences. Chalk it up to the perils of exploration. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. As of this morning, there are 234 providers listed in P411 for Denver. I've seen 26 of them. I play about twice a month. Assuming NO visiting ladies, and NO new talent, and NO return visits to the ladies whose company I really enjoyed (a highly unlikely proposition) it will take me over 8 years to work through all the choices I have. I don't have the time or resources to waste on backpage. I'm sure there are some nice ladies there. Just too risky to search them out. Oh, and on P411, I've been the windshield 25 times, and the bug once. I found out that when you're the bug, as you're hitting the windshield, the last thing that goes through your mind is your asshole. A very unpleasant experience. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 Perhaps he expected a deep spiritual connection during his 15 minute session. But she must have been quite talented to get a lot of talking, a cigarette, a phone call, all stuffed into 15 minutes and still have time for TF. Sounds like shitty time was had by all. I was thinking the same thing as you and Lucy. What all should be included or expected at that price? To each their own. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 Perhaps he expected a deep spiritual connection during his 15 minute session. Sounds like shitty time was had by all. ^^^This^^^ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 IMHO what one should expect in an inexpensive 15min session would be a BJ, probably with a lot of hand action. If you're already hard when you walk in perhaps a quick poke, but no foreplay or cuddles. A 15min session is for quick release and 'all about me!' I see no reason a quickie can't be at least VG, but if she wastes 10 of those minutes on a smoke or phone call, well ... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 IMHO what one should expect in an inexpensive 15min session would be a BJ, probably with a lot of hand action. If you're already hard when you walk in perhaps a quick poke, but no foreplay or cuddles. A 15min session is for quick release and 'all about me!' I see no reason a quickie can't be at least VG, but if she wastes 10 of those minutes on a smoke or phone call, well ... but those details are unclear, activities listed if they happened in fantasy land still indicate dude got $60 worth of service. If the guy got what he claims he paid for she probably had ten minutes to kill and chose poorly. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 but those details are unclear, activities listed if they happened in fantasy land still indicate dude got $60 worth of service. If the guy got what he claims he paid for she probably had ten minutes to kill and chose poorly. If she charged $60/15 minutes. That her rate. Thats her choice. You don't have time to kill during that 15 minutes.... that is his 15 minutes of paid time. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 but those details are unclear, activities listed if they happened in fantasy land still indicate dude got $60 worth of service. If the guy got what he claims he paid for she probably had ten minutes to kill and chose poorly. If she charged $60/15 minutes. That her rate. Thats her choice. You don't have time to kill during that 15 minutes.... that is his 15 minutes of paid time. I have to agree with Nikki on this given today's market dynamics focusing on "pay for time". Even if he popped in the first 30sec, she should have been focusing on him. Back in the day of the "up to an hour" pricing model, he would have been out the door when she had her smoke & phone call. He just didn't get the hint that the session was over as far as she (following the old model) was concerned. There was a recent thread about how discussions like this have altered the expectations of acceptable business practices for both the guys & gals who participate here on TOB. We need to recognize that when we step out of the TOB/EB environment, to BP or another locale for example, that those expectations no longer hold true. Many of the old practices (one & done) are still the standard. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 If you go looking on BP, and choose un-reviewed girls, this will happen sometimes. (Used to happen to me plenty.) I can understand wanting to find new girls, but you should be prepared for these unpleasant experiences. Chalk it up to the perils of exploration. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. True. And I've had crappy times for way more than $4/min!! However, there are so many ways to minimize the risks of that happening these days, that I used to shake my head in wonder when guys didn't. Like the guy in the other post who wondered if it was a good idea to rent a room in his name for a girl to work out of. Completely idiotic in my opinion, but at least he had to good sense to ask first. When a guy habitually doesn't make use of risk mitigation, particularly as a couple of the reviewers cited by the OP seem to, I've got to believe it's because he doesn't want to. And especially if one's bothered to read any of what gets routinely gets posted around here and has for as long as I've been around. I'm convinced that riskier exploration has got to be part of the experience for many. Lots of people play the lottery too. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I just did a check of recent bad reviews on tobreviews (marking "Not Good", "Rip off", and "Terrible" as definitely bad). I counted 15 bad reviews going back to Feb 20. Here's the "certain pattern" I noticed: Backpage was the only or primary web site listed for 15 of the 15 bads. Only 1 of 15 bads listed an "independent" escort web site (within the "naughtynsexy.com" domain). None of the bads listed P411 or EB. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I just did a check of recent bad reviews on tobreviews (marking "Not Good", "Rip off", and "Terrible" as definitely bad). I counted 15 bad reviews going back to Feb 20. Here's the "certain pattern" I noticed: Backpage was the only or primary web site listed for 15 of the 15 bads. Only 1 of 15 bads listed an "independent" escort web site (within the "naughtynsexy.com" domain). None of the bads listed P411 or EB. Data. You are channeling the spirit of a departed mod.... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I have to agree with Nikki on this given today's market dynamics focusing on "pay for time". Even if he popped in the first 30sec, she should have been focusing on him. Back in the day of the "up to an hour" pricing model, he would have been out the door when she had her smoke & phone call. He just didn't get the hint that the session was over as far as she (following the old model) was concerned. There was a recent thread about how discussions like this have altered the expectations of acceptable business practices for both the guys & gals who participate here on TOB. We need to recognize that when we step out of the TOB/EB environment, to BP or another locale for example, that those expectations no longer hold true. Many of the old practices (one & done) are still the standard. Yeah because obviously the guy who pays $60 for full service has a lot of class and reasonable expectations. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 If she charged $60/15 minutes. That her rate. Thats her choice. You don't have time to kill during that 15 minutes.... that is his 15 minutes of paid time. And if the review is any sort of true he really got what he paid for. What did he want after $60 and a nut? Cuddle time? A second round? A thank you note? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 I see a few problems with being "not so nice" - Her protection comes in from the next room or closet. - LEOs get involved, charge you with assault. - She goes BSC & outs you to the world - She goes BSC & does you bodily harm (knife, gun, karate, ...) - Any combination of the above. None of which is worth a few hundred $s. Tuition at U of Hard Knocks. Good post. I say that same shit before too when I'm upset. Then a nice calm over takes me... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 Yeah because obviously the guy who pays $60 for full service has a lot of class and reasonable expectations. Never said he did. Check my previous post for what I consider 'reasonable expectations'. My point was that over the years the denizens of TOB (both male & female) have arrived at a set of expectations which differ from those of the general public. These expectations cover rates and both the quality & quantity of service. As others have said, we are but a small portion of the overall market. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 In the TOB fantasy of 'you pay for the time not the nut', he should expect her focus to be on him for the remainder of the allotted time. To do otherwise is poor service, according to the mores of TOB. As Nikki said, it's his time. As for it only being $60, that's on her; she set the rate. In the real world of BP & other locales are his expectations realistic? Not so much. But his review (& her performance) are being judged by TOB standards. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 28, 2015 How many of the 15 bad reviews did the picture not look like the girl in the ad? So if you dont walk you deserver to be ripped off, just saying! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
