Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) This business is no Pretty Woman in reality is quite the opposite. For any ASP Or JON to think that our lives worlds can mesh is clearly delusional. I know of too many providers who have SO while in this business or have tried to date a client and it turns into utter disaster. The lines have been clearly crossed between ATF and GFE fantasy. I had a client ask me recently did I find him attractive, would he be someone I would be interested outside the fantasy, Now this is not per quote but you get his mind set. answer.............................Never should these lines be blurred or crossed. I think everyone of my clients are attractive and fun ect. ect. ect. Anything of value house cars bank accounts just to name a few you want to PUT in MY Name than we can talk. Other wise never ever.......... Lilithia Edited May 26, 2014 by lilithia who knows... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 This is so true, Girls in their 20's sleep with every guy they can and surprisingly, that's not what i want, and older women meaning 30's have a kid and want to get married, so true it sucks. ...and if they make it through to their 40's with no kids & relationship, they are usually either fat and ugly, or psychopaths or both. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Now here is a man who truly respect the female gender. And who are these twenty olds sleeping with..............? who's kids are they having???? While on the other side of the fence the perverts are standing in line to have sex with twenty something. Brett this is not what you want yet your commenting on a hoe board. How many YL have you paid to have sex with??? Again delusional. It takes conviction to get what you seek being on a hoe board is blurring the lines and reality is far from the truth for you. Lilithia Edited May 26, 2014 by lilithia reasoning. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 This is so true, Girls in their 20's sleep with every guy they can and surprisingly, that's not what i want, and older women meaning 30's have a kid and want to get married, so true it sucks. ...and if they make it through to their 40's with no kids & relationship, they are usually either fat and ugly, or psychopaths or both. You guys make women sound like livestock so your results are not surprising. try measuring yourself on the same scale you use to measure women. then try adding a little respect and some understanding. expectation and entitlement lead to an empty dance card but hey, atleast you have your pride right? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 You guys make women sound like livestock so your results are not surprising. try measuring yourself on the same scale you use to measure women. then try adding a little respect and some understanding. expectation and entitlement lead to an empty dance card but hey, atleast you have your pride right? Muah! Thanks Boink, I honestly could not have said that better myself. The number of 20-30 somethings having/wanting kids has dropped quite a bit, my generations interest in marriage seems to be waning too. Despite that both genders want committed relationships and in my experience I find single men in their 30s far more desperate than the single mom. These guys want the "unicorn", a fair maiden in her 30s so beautiful and untouched by the world but when they finally find them it's thoughts like this that hold them back. Originally Posted by gold80401 ...and if they make it through to their 40's with no kids & relationship, they are usually either fat and ugly, or psychopaths or both. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 That came out completely wrong. I did not mean for that comment to be interpreted in the way it was. Actually I respect women and treat them with the utmost care and respect. I guess its frustrating to me that it happens that way it does, I'm far from perfect and don't expect anyone to be either. And to Lucy. sorry i sound like an asshole, I agree I want to get married and have kids, maybe I must just accept that in todays age that how it is. I'm not looking for the perfect girl, but someone that treats me with respect. My view on this has actually changed a lot these last few months. You guys make women sound like livestock so your results are not surprising. try measuring yourself on the same scale you use to measure women. then try adding a little respect and some understanding. expectation and entitlement lead to an empty dance card but hey, atleast you have your pride right? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 That came out completely wrong. I did not mean for that comment to be interpreted in the way it was. it's not your fault -- it's just difficult to tell it like it is and be PC at the same time. Someone's ALWAYS gonna gets their panties in a wad. You weren't being an asshole, you were just generalizing based on observation. Nothing wrong with that. There are generalizations that apply to us guys also. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 That came out completely wrong. I did not mean for that comment to be interpreted in the way it was. Actually I respect women and treat them with the utmost care and respect. I guess its frustrating to me that it happens that way it does, I'm far from perfect and don't expect anyone to be either. And to Lucy. sorry i sound like an asshole, I agree I want to get married and have kids, maybe I must just accept that in todays age that how it is. I'm not looking for the perfect girl, but someone that treats me with respect. My view on this has actually changed a lot these last few months. Truly the only thing wrong was the generalizing. Not all women in their 20s are so promiscuous and not all women in their 30s have kids and they're not eying the white picket fence. If this is what you are experiencing then you need to broaden you search. When you know and can say out loud what you want in a partner they are much easier to find. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 26, 2014 I do not want a guy seeing this other than a business arrangement and single guys, if they do not have their head on right , can "read" way more into this if the escort does a really good job. I wanted to comment on this with some advice, since I've developed feelings for providers in the past. Basically I've found that if you take a break from seeing her and see a few other providers instead, you tend to regain your perspective. After all, you don't have a lifetime of memories together, so seeing a few other girls resets the supposed feelings you were having. It has always cleared my head and has allowed me to continue seeing a provider instead of cutting myself off from her completely, which I have had to do. Oh, and most people do not have their head on right, in my experience it's incredibly uncommon, and I work with people on an everyday basis. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 ... When you know and can say out loud what you want in a partner they are much easier to find. Right! I've developing a list of attributes, both desired and not wanted, and a scoring matrix for potential long term partners. So far it's just a mental exercise, but I expect I'll write it down should I start seriously looking just to crystallize the ideas. I know - this should be an affair of the heart, but that romantic notion let me down twice. Perhaps this is just my own version of eHarmony. Does anybody know if their questionnaire gets into sexual perversions like group sex? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 I wanted to comment on this with some advice, since I've developed feelings for providers in the past. Basically I've found that if you take a break from seeing her and see a few other providers instead, you tend to regain your perspective. ... This is the reason that I tended to see my favorites only once or twice each year, rotating through a list of ladies with a few new faces each year. I've been seeing some of them for years on end (over a decade in one case), but the emotional relationships build to solid friendship instead of lustful infatuation. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 Perhaps this is just my own version of eHarmony. Does anybody know if their questionnaire gets into sexual perversions like group sex? EHarmony is a Christian-belief based company. They had to be sued, to allow gay people to use their system. I believe poly-anything is frowned upon. I've read that there are other sites much better suited to poly, swinging, and open relationships. Hopefully, I'll never need them! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 EHarmony is a Christian-belief based company. They had to be sued, to allow gay people to use their system. I believe poly-anything is frowned upon. ... That's what I suspected 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 I am sure there are horror stories about relationships between providers and Johns. Without even trying, I can think of several ladies that have married guys they met as customers and are happily married. They just do not want to be open about it. I had this conversation with one lady in particular. She wants to tell people it CAN work but prefers to keep quiet to avoid bringing attention to herself. One old gent I have coffee with every morning once stated that if his wife ever died, he was going to marry a hooker because they know to to treat a man. His wife recently passed. I reminded him what he once said. How is that going for you? He just smiled. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 This is so true, Girls in their 20's sleep with every guy they can and surprisingly, that's not what i want, and older women meaning 30's have a kid and want to get married, so true it sucks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 ...and if they make it through to their 40's with no kids & relationship, they are usually either fat and ugly, or psychopaths or both. For this reason, I rarely date women my age. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 27, 2014 For this reason, I rarely date women my age. and all the age appropriate women breath a collective sigh of relief 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2014 For this reason, I rarely date women my age. It's attitudes like this that give us fat ugly guys a fighting chance. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2014 As I've said many times, most women who are now in their 40s made crucial mistakes in their 20s: 1) Excessive drinking 2) Smoking 3) Partying 4) Lousy eating habits 5) Few if any excercise habits 6) Hooked up with some loser 7) Now, 20 years later divorced, frustrated and with a couple of up-to-no-good kids. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2014 As others have pointed out, the same (list) could be said for the men. Ve git so soon olt, und zo late schmart! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2014 This could easily apply to me when i get to 40, with the exception of exercising and being single and want wanting kids. this was a crazy thread, good read though As I've said many times, most women who are now in their 40s made crucial mistakes in their 20s: 1) Excessive drinking 2) Smoking 3) Partying 4) Lousy eating habits 5) Few if any excercise habits 6) Hooked up with some loser 7) Now, 20 years later divorced, frustrated and with a couple of up-to-no-good kids. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 30, 2014 I've only used the "hobby" when travelling, and actually, it's been good for the relationship. I find that after a good experience, I have more desire and energy, which benefits the "home". And if I have a not so great experience, it doesn't deter anything at home... So for me, it's a win-win.....so far... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4, 2014 I'm just curious if any of the guys have had issues with having a monogamous relationship after they have been partaking in the hobby for any period time. I'm curious if the fact that knowing this "hobby world" exists and having experienced it previously makes being in a committed relationship even more difficult. Um no easy Pea Z. I have never had a problem. Ok so I commit to something and I do it simple. If I have a serious GF and she is not in the "hobby" then I don't cheat because I tell myself not to. If its acceptable to cheat because of circumstance then I go hobby. Also if I say Im not going to cheat then I won't. WORD. Lots a variables but thats how it works. Men like to have sex period. unless your JLC and you like to kiss and hold hands and cuddle. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 6, 2014 Of course it's not actually cheating if there's an agreement that it's not exclusive... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
