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What is the BEST/WORST experience that you have ever encountered in the HOBBY? 

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Worst experience is easy. A year ago, to the month, I was ripped off by two ladies I had seen before on multiply occasions, or by someone who had access to their website and email. They convinced my to prepay to help with travel expenses and just kept the money. That's documented in a thread, and reviews, from back then.

I've faced countless bait n switches over the years and been NC/NSd more times than I can count, a handful of time after driving an hour plus.

However, the Best experiences far outweigh the Worst in both frequency and significance. In fact, some of the greatest adult experiences in my life I own to the hobby. Will definitely take the good with the bad.

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The best experiences I have had are with down to earth, genuine women.

The worst was with an OnlyFans model who was more interested in checking herself out in the mirror, trying to find the next best pose for her page and scrolling on her phone. I was so turned off, the little man wouldn't get up to play.

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I've had too many "best" experiences to list.  I truly enjoy a variety of ladies of all types, ages, sizes and especially personalities.  My mood varies, as do my wants/needs.  The ladies I've had "best" experiences with have improved my life, my mood, my attitude and my mental health.  I've had a couple of "worst", but look at those like we just weren't a good fit.  Different strokes for different folks.  So far, I haven't been ripped off, haven't had a bait/switch and for that I am grateful.  I hope the good times continue to roll !!

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On 1/27/2023 at 11:15 AM, Mustang87 said:

Worst experience is easy. A year ago, to the month, I was ripped off by two ladies I had seen before on multiply occasions, or by someone who had access to their website and email. They convinced my to prepay to help with travel expenses and just kept the money. That's documented in a thread, and reviews, from back then.

I've faced countless bait n switches over the years and been NC/NSd more times than I can count, a handful of time after driving an hour plus.

However, the Best experiences far outweigh the Worst in both frequency and significance. In fact, some of the greatest adult experiences in my life I own to the hobby. Will definitely take the good with the bad.

M87 I definitely remember this unfortunate experience and I feel that you handled it in a very CLASSY way, even though you could have blasted them publicly but trust me, we all heard your cry. I am 50/50 on bait n switches LOL. One was a 6'6 Asian crossdresser and the other was a thick sexy black girl, neither from TOB. No shows LOL, I actually have more no shows with two girls that I ended up seeing for over 2 years, so I feel your pain. Taking the good with the bad is one of this things we call life's loveable wonders.....................................

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On 1/27/2023 at 0:39 PM, mediocre_banger said:

The best experiences I have had are with down to earth, genuine women.

The worst was with an OnlyFans model who was more interested in checking herself out in the mirror, trying to find the next best pose for her page and scrolling on her phone. I was so turned off, the little man wouldn't get up to play.

So did you actually experience her or was you watching her on webcam? 

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5 hours ago, average1 said:

I've had too many "best" experiences to list.  I truly enjoy a variety of ladies of all types, ages, sizes and especially personalities.  My mood varies, as do my wants/needs.  The ladies I've had "best" experiences with have improved my life, my mood, my attitude and my mental health.  I've had a couple of "worst", but look at those like we just weren't a good fit.  Different strokes for different folks.  So far, I haven't been ripped off, haven't had a bait/switch and for that I am grateful.  I hope the good times continue to roll !!

AVG it appears that you have had a smooth ride when it comes to hobbying. I am with you when it comes to the worst experiences, let it go/brush your shoulders off and contact someone else versus harp and complain. Sometimes, two people are just not a good fit. I thought I got ripped off once but the girl made good on it, invited me back and we hit it off for a couple years afterwards......................

 

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17 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

So did you actually experience her or was you watching her on webcam? 

In person meeting

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Where do I begin. There have been many pleasant surprises and a lot of disappointments.  Without one, you couldn't know the other. I would say the ones you remember their names, are the ones we are talking about. Cassie, the 4'11" stripper who I met by accident, when I went to the club to see another girl. She was a doll. Great attitude , smile and had a giggle I will never forget. I saw her several times. Actually  my first overnight in the hobby. Or Macy, the oldest provider I had ever been with from P411. She went slow and sensual. She never watched a clock. She would say, I will tell you when you can leave. Lol.

Then the other side of the coin. Sydney, who I still use her real world name as a password. Just to be  reminded not to be taken again. I got too close to her and she took me for a lot of cash.

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14 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

Where do I begin. There have been many pleasant surprises and a lot of disappointments.  Without one, you couldn't know the other. I would say the ones you remember their names, are the ones we are talking about. Cassie, the 4'11" stripper who I met by accident, when I went to the club to see another girl. She was a doll. Great attitude , smile and had a giggle I will never forget. I saw her several times. Actually  my first overnight in the hobby. Or Macy, the oldest provider I had ever been with from P411. She went slow and sensual. She never watched a clock. She would say, I will tell you when you can leave. Lol.

Then the other side of the coin. Sydney, who I still use her real world name as a password. Just to be  reminded not to be taken again. I got too close to her and she took me for a lot of cash.

Mr Majors now you have me thinking about that Ms slow and sensual (Macy) woman........................ Love when I get to UNEXPECTEDLY stay overnight with a woman...................... Sorry to hear about you and Sydney, man I know a Sydney that ROCKS. Wow, nothing but CLASSIC EXPERIENCES with her..................

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On 1/29/2023 at 10:28 AM, mediocre_banger said:

In person meeting

Wow, how disappointing..................... 

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I have only had a couple bad encounters out of a ton of good encounters. One of the bad ones was when I went to see this little cute hot lesbian. Her girlfriend got spooked and she called in her GOONS. One was a 5'3 guy with a .45 and the second guy was 6'4 with a lead pipe. There was only one way out and both were standing in that entrance/exit. To speed up the story or make it short, I was escorted out and the little cutie called me the next day to apologize/make good with me. I accepted and I returned that next day. We became good friends and I saw her for the next 2 years. The encounter could have been very UGLY but it actually turned out to be GOOD.............................

 

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10 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

I have only had a couple bad encounters out of a ton of good encounters. One of the bad ones was when I went to see this little cute hot lesbian. Her girlfriend got spooked and she called in her GOONS. One was a 5'3 guy with a .45 and the second guy was 6'4 with a lead pipe. There was only one way out and both were standing in that entrance/exit. To speed up the story or make it short, I was escorted out and the little cutie called me the next day to apologize/make good with me. I accepted and I returned that next day. We became good friends and I saw her for the next 2 years. The encounter could have been very UGLY but it actually turned out to be GOOD.............................

 

Yikes. Now that a bad experience!  I'm glad it worked out and you were able to make lemonade out of those lemons. But if I ever had a guy pull a gun, or any weapon, on me while at an appointment, I don't ever think I'd go near that location, or that YL again.

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I very Intrested in knowing how you danced a rounded such a problem as that of a man with a lead pipe and another dude with a gun?  Very scary to think about! I have never encountered a firearm or any other sort of weapon. I feel very fortunate! At least not knowingly have I! 

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Just now, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

I very Intrested in knowing how you danced a rounded such a problem as that of a man with a lead pipe and another dude with a gun?  Very scary to think about! I have never encountered a firearm or any other sort of weapon. I feel very fortunate! At least not knowingly have I! 

 

15 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

I have only had a couple bad encounters out of a ton of good encounters. One of the bad ones was when I went to see this little cute hot lesbian. Her girlfriend got spooked and she called in her GOONS. One was a 5'3 guy with a .45 and the second guy was 6'4 with a lead pipe. There was only one way out and both were standing in that entrance/exit. To speed up the story or make it short, I was escorted out and the little cutie called me the next day to apologize/make good with me. I accepted and I returned that next day. We became good friends and I saw her for the next 2 years. The encounter could have been very UGLY but it actually turned out to be GOOD.............................

 

 

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things happened when I was desperate for money and didn't screen properly. I also made a mistake of not putting my donation up in a drawer. I was in doggy position and all of sudden he was gone out the door with the money! what a loser. not to mention the guys who pull off the condom during doggy. out of all my years of working I haven't had instances like that very often. I also HATE when guys would come see me when they were drug users. SUCH a turn off. I thought this guy was gonna do a line of coke in the bathroom so I was like okay whatever go ahead, turns out he took a hit of meth and I was SO MAD AND TURNED OFF. I didn't even want to finish the appointment but I did it just for the money. 

my BEST appointments were with this guy who was a regular, he bought me gifts and treated me like more than an object. he eventually broke it off with me because he was going to try to leave the hobby to be in a relationship. we had a good provider / client relationship though. this magician also came to see me several times and he would spend like 800 bucks on me for an hour appointment. [ I was never one of those girls who were 1000 an hour ] so I felt like a million bucks when he would spoil me like that!

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I've been very blessed, although that's with a lot of risk mitigation and RESEARCH.  I've had a couple of appointments which were 'no show' once I got to the area, but otherwise, have been lucky.  There were a couple of women with whom I didn't 'click', but that's not a bad session - just a less than stellar one (on my side).  Most, however, have been really outstanding.

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16 hours ago, Mustang87 said:

Yikes. Now that a bad experience!  I'm glad it worked out and you were able to make lemonade out of those lemons. But if I ever had a guy pull a gun, or any weapon, on me while at an appointment, I don't ever think I'd go near that location, or that YL again.

M87 I am glad it worked out for me as well. I was new to the hobby world. The girlfriend and the cute lesbian both apologized because they didn't mean for the situation to get out of hand. I miss her ass cheeks, along with a lesbian submissive vibe.....................missing on my little friend now a days.......... The 5'3 guy didn't pull a gun on me, he just let me know that he had one tucked away is all. The big guy, well he wasn't trying to hide it yet in all honesty, they were just letting me know there was two ways to end this situation, THE EASY WAY or THE HARD WAY................... As far as going back, well most would not have returned but The Savior is not most, therefore I returned and it turned out to be an awesome 2 years................... I have met a ton of women that get bad reviews/no shows, you name it, yet I get along with them just fine.........................

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9 hours ago, sunshinelovely said:

things happened when I was desperate for money and didn't screen properly. I also made a mistake of not putting my donation up in a drawer. I was in doggy position and all of sudden he was gone out the door with the money! what a loser. not to mention the guys who pull off the condom during doggy. out of all my years of working I haven't had instances like that very often. I also HATE when guys would come see me when they were drug users. SUCH a turn off. I thought this guy was gonna do a line of coke in the bathroom so I was like okay whatever go ahead, turns out he took a hit of meth and I was SO MAD AND TURNED OFF. I didn't even want to finish the appointment but I did it just for the money. 

my BEST appointments were with this guy who was a regular, he bought me gifts and treated me like more than an object. he eventually broke it off with me because he was going to try to leave the hobby to be in a relationship. we had a good provider / client relationship though. this magician also came to see me several times and he would spend like 800 bucks on me for an hour appointment. [ I was never one of those girls who were 1000 an hour ] so I felt like a million bucks when he would spoil me like that!

Welcome back Harlem Nights, I was just asking about your whereabouts in a post LOL. You seem to have had some pretty bad encounters, yet you seemed to have handled your misfortune well. Why are you referring to the good client as a magician? Was he a real magician? Shit, you did very well with your hour sessions with that guy, no wonder he's your best encounter LOL. I am glad that your BEST encounter overshadows your WORST. You go girl...................

 

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9 hours ago, Phil-anderer said:

I've been very blessed, although that's with a lot of risk mitigation and RESEARCH.  I've had a couple of appointments which were 'no show' once I got to the area, but otherwise, have been lucky.  There were a couple of women with whom I didn't 'click', but that's not a bad session - just a less than stellar one (on my side).  Most, however, have been really outstanding.

Dr Phil I would have to agree that you are blessed/fortunate where all you have encountered is a NO SHOW. I too have been blessed and I certainly am not complaining. I am glad your BEST overshadows your WORST. 

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13 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

Welcome back Harlem Nights, I was just asking about your whereabouts in a post LOL. You seem to have had some pretty bad encounters, yet you seemed to have handled your misfortune well. Why are you referring to the good client as a magician? Was he a real magician? Shit, you did very well with your hour sessions with that guy, no wonder he's your best encounter LOL. I am glad that your BEST encounter overshadows your WORST. You go girl...................

really? wow I feel special! he was a real magician. that was his career. out of all the years I worked I feel like I was pretty blessed not to get into any really bad sticky situations. things could of been way worse. I probably have some more good / bad encounters but my memory is not the best tbh. guys would come see me and asked if I remembered them and I'm like nope.. do you know how many appointments I've had through out the years? because I lost count! 

things happened when I was desperate for money and didn't screen properly. I also made a mistake of not putting my donation up in a drawer. I was in doggy position and all of sudden he was gone out the door with the money! what a lose. not to mention the guys who pull off the condom during doggy. out of all my years of working I haven't had instances like that very often. I also HATE when guys would come see me when they were drug users. SUCH a turn off. I thought this guy was gonna to a line of coke in the bathroom so I was like okay whatever go ahead, turns out he took a hit of meth and I was SO MAD AND TURNED OFF. I didn't even want to finish the appointment but I did it just for the money. 

my BEST appointments were with this guy who was a regular, he bought me gifts and treated me like more than an object. he eventually broke it off with me because he was going to try to leave the hobby to be in a relationship. we had a good provider / client relationship though. this magician also came to see me several times and he would spend like 800 bucks on me for an hour appointment. [ I was never one of those girls who were 1000 an hour ] so I felt like a million bucks when he would spoil me like that!

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28 minutes ago, sunshinelovely said:

  really? wow I feel special! he was a real magician. that was his career. out of all the years I worked I feel like I was pretty blessed not to get into any really bad sticky situations. things could of been way worse. I probably have some more good / bad encounters but my memory is not the best tbh. guys would come see me and asked if I remembered them and I'm like nope.. do you know how many appointments I've had through out the years? because I lost count! 

A real magician huh? You just gave me a good idea for a woman magician "role play" encounter LOL. You and me both agree when it comes to not really getting into any bad situations/encounters, thankfully BLESSED. Now when it comes to me remembering providers, I have seen a lot and I pretty much remember the majority. Sometimes it takes me a little bit to actually remember when/where I saw them though. I remember one day I was up at Pappadeauxs and I was talking to a friend of mine. Next thing I know this fine girl walks past me, ass just a swinging/switching and me and my friend were like DAYUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......... I remember saying, to myself, oh shit, I know who she is but for some reason when I saw her she was a lot taller............Remembers she kept them heels on the entire session ......................

 

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Never had a really bad experience. I've had 3 or 4 less than great though. The best was with a non-pro out of work school teacher. Found her on Craigslist. I was interested because she was 6' tall. I probably wouldn't have called, but she had a review on TOB by a known reviewer. He said she wasn't particularly attractive but when she was having sex she became the most beautiful woman in the world.  I said the same thing in my review. She didn't know much about the business or any of the acronyms, but wow!

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On 2/11/2023 at 2:24 PM, Bigguy said:

Never had a really bad experience. I've had 3 or 4 less than great though. The best was with a non-pro out of work school teacher. Found her on Craigslist. I was interested because she was 6' tall. I probably wouldn't have called, but she had a review on TOB by a known reviewer. He said she wasn't particularly attractive but when she was having sex she became the most beautiful woman in the world.  I said the same thing in my review. She didn't know much about the business or any of the acronyms, but wow!

Biggie it appears you caught a VANILLA AMAZON from what you are describing. This reminds me of a girl that I saw who was brand new to the business but she was HOT/PRETTY/FINE and the type who would almost cum from kissing on the neck/belly button/inner thighs.......................... She was so sensual and when she would cum JEESH, it was one of the most beautiful pleasures that one could get...............................Smacks myself, snap out of it Savior LOL, what the ???? is wrong with you.................................LOL @ me.................. Thanks for the memory Biggie....................

 

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On 1/31/2023 at 6:08 PM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

I very Intrested in knowing how you danced a rounded such a problem as that of a man with a lead pipe and another dude with a gun?  Very scary to think about! I have never encountered a firearm or any other sort of weapon. I feel very fortunate! At least not knowingly have I! 

It might be because us ladies know how to screen perspective clients and do our best to stay out of harms way! Very few ladies need to worry about  thinking with the little head!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I am  Sorry, @Savoir Faire, I don’t mean to bust your chops! I find your stories very humorous, and also interesting. You know fantasy play is very fun and feeds the ego well!  However, honestly I know for a fact if I was ever confronted by someone  be it 1 or 2  with such objects, lead pipe, and a gun?   Also, by people whom where not invited to the private encounter? Chances are I would not be seeing that companion again. Let alone answer a fallow up phone call from that particular person’s lover who hired personal bodyguards to attack I think, that it was awfully brave of you to contact that Companion again after all that wild get up! 
You are truly a blessed badass dude! 🏆
 

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Well, I had another one. It predated this thread and I debated even bringing it up, but hopefully my stupidity can keep others from making my mistake. Late last year I was comminicating with a lady I've seen a number of times in the past about a booking. Her schedule changed and I was not able to book. We both agreed that we'd find a time in the near future when schedules allowed. Shortly after that she sent me a series of emails referring to our "friendship" and saying we were "friends." She also mentioned that she "missed" me a couple of times and hoped to see me again.  When I saw she was available close to my area again I reached out to her to schedule, but that is when I made the big mistake. I proposed a late-morning booking and then asked if I could take her out to lunch after. When the thought to do so crossed my mind I knew it was a mistake. As I typed the words I knew it was a mistake and as I hit send I knew it was a mistake. But, of course, I did it anyway. I didn't have to wait long for the hammer to drop. The response came in minutes. The first couple of lines in her response were to confirm the booking. The next line started with the words "just to be clear" in confirmation of just what an idiot I was. I was free to book as much time as I wanted, but all time would be on the clock. Now, of course I know that is how this works, but I was dumb enough to ask anyways, so I deserved what I got. My intent was not to "book" her for lunch but it take her out to lunch as a "friend."  As I read it bacame very clear to me that I was her "friend" when I showed up with a wad of hundreds. And I was "missed" when I wasn't there with that handful of Hundreds. But, of course, this is a business and I've been doing this long enough to know better.  I did go ahead and confirm the booking and went to the appointment. I felt very embarrassed the whole time I was with her, but I didn't want to me the guy who cancels or to be seen as a time-waster.  I also apoligized to her in person for putting her in that position. I don't blame her for anything as I was the one to misunderstand and overstep. But ladies, if anyone is interested in advise from me, I recommend staying away from the F word, unless that is the relationship you intend to pursus. 

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Sounds like you acted in good faith based on her word choice, and handled the scenario well..  I have have one companion who refers to me as "friend". That characterization makes for some very pleasant intimate  sessions, but I am sure that it would not be sustained beyond her front door.  

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15 hours ago, Mustang87 said:

Well, I had another one. It predated this thread and I debated even bringing it up, but hopefully my stupidity can keep others from making my mistake. Late last year I was comminicating with a lady I've seen a number of times in the past about a booking. Her schedule changed and I was not able to book. We both agreed that we'd find a time in the near future when schedules allowed. Shortly after that she sent me a series of emails referring to our "friendship" and saying we were "friends." She also mentioned that she "missed" me a couple of times and hoped to see me again.  When I saw she was available close to my area again I reached out to her to schedule, but that is when I made the big mistake. I proposed a late-morning booking and then asked if I could take her out to lunch after. When the thought to do so crossed my mind I knew it was a mistake. As I typed the words I knew it was a mistake and as I hit send I knew it was a mistake. But, of course, I did it anyway. I didn't have to wait long for the hammer to drop. The response came in minutes. The first couple of lines in her response were to confirm the booking. The next line started with the words "just to be clear" in confirmation of just what an idiot I was. I was free to book as much time as I wanted, but all time would be on the clock. Now, of course I know that is how this works, but I was dumb enough to ask anyways, so I deserved what I got. My intent was not to "book" her for lunch but it take her out to lunch as a "friend."  As I read it bacame very clear to me that I was her "friend" when I showed up with a wad of hundreds. And I was "missed" when I wasn't there with that handful of Hundreds. But, of course, this is a business and I've been doing this long enough to know better.  I did go ahead and confirm the booking and went to the appointment. I felt very embarrassed the whole time I was with her, but I didn't want to me the guy who cancels or to be seen as a time-waster.  I also apoligized to her in person for putting her in that position. I don't blame her for anything as I was the one to misunderstand and overstep. But ladies, if anyone is interested in advise from me, I recommend staying away from the F word, unless that is the relationship you intend to pursus. 

M87, You did make a mistake by not telling her upfront what you wanted, if you had told her, she would have either declined or rebutted with what she was willing to partake in and then my friend, you would have found out if she was a friend or just a business exchange. When you keep it real, whatever type of relationship either wants will come out and its a lot easier when both know what the other party WANTS. You aren't going to be able to please EVERYBODY no matter how great of a guy you may be. She kept it real with you by saying "Just to be clear" but I am not here to beat you down further, I KEEPS IT REAL....................If I were you, I would ask for a conversation over the phone or a session and tell her how you are feeling, trust me, you will get the answer you are looking for I promise you.............................She is either your friend or she isn't............Thanks for your input................

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17 hours ago, sb1212 said:

Sounds like you acted in good faith based on her word choice, and handled the scenario well..  I have have one companion who refers to me as "friend". That characterization makes for some very pleasant intimate  sessions, but I am sure that it would not be sustained beyond her front door.  

Yeah, what do they say, fuck around and find out. :D:D  I was embarrased but no one knew about it except she and I, and she is not a TOB lady so she'll never see this thread and I didn't post a review so there is no record. No real harm done here as I did have a pretty good appointment, so all that ends well....

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4 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

M87, You did make a mistake by not telling her upfront what you wanted, if you had told her, she would have either declined or rebutted with what she was willing to partake in and then my friend, you would have found out if she was a friend or just a business exchange. When you keep it real, whatever type of relationship either wants will come out and its a lot easier when both know what the other party WANTS. You aren't going to be able to please EVERYBODY no matter how great of a guy you may be. She kept it real with you by saying "Just to be clear" but I am not here to beat you down further, I KEEPS IT REAL....................If I were you, I would ask for a conversation over the phone or a session and tell her how you are feeling, trust me, you will get the answer you are looking for I promise you.............................She is either your friend or she isn't............Thanks for your input................

No question I should have handled things differently but no real harm done. Plus I was looking to add to the dialog on here in general, and instead of dredging up a thread from 2012 I thought I'd tell a little story and provide some content on a current thread instead.;)

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