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Perusing the TOB candy shop, Hobbit followed a delectable treat from one of many stellar reviews to their profile to their website to their "Screening and Validation" link. Deflated to see it included a picture ID (redacted address ok!), and/or LinkedIn profile with 150+ connections, no less, and/or other ways to "only ensure their security and ours", make it off the to-do list, in the local news, whatever, Hobbit was reminded of a face recognition service him came across sometime ago named http://wwwPimeyes.com.

Like http://www.Tineye.com but, able to match the face to a name, to an address, to who knows what else, IMHO, it's much, much worserer 🙃. Curious how accurate it might be, their Home page makes it easy enough to simply upload a pic and find out for yourself. I mean, it even has a "Don't worry, it won't be stored", assurance! What could possibly go wrong?

With no way in hell they'd get his Hobbit thought, if not him, who? If not now, when? Picking a random photo with about a dozen faces in it of folk Hobbit don't know off of social media, the service "recognized" four and required Hobbit pick one. THEN, the TOR browser him uses popped a cross-script warning that included the source website embedded in random, five-page long security scripting with four radio button options: block this request, block all requests, allow this request, allow all requests. At this point Hobbit closed it down.

Of course, with our mugs being recorded everywhere from the mall to the airport, plate recognition software in traffic (LE) cams...face recognition i.e., mass surveillance is nothing new. Which begs the question, especially for those of us in relationships and/or reputations and/or licenses to protect, lose, whatever...really?

Be safe out there, gents!

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On 10/26/2023 at 8:13 AM, Hobby Hobbit said:

Perusing the TOB candy shop, Hobbit followed a delectable treat from one of many stellar reviews to their profile to their website to their "Screening and Validation" link. Deflated to see it included a picture ID (redacted address ok!), and/or LinkedIn profile with 150+ connections, no less, and/or other ways to "only ensure their security and ours", make it off the to-do list, in the local news, whatever, Hobbit was reminded of a face recognition service him came across sometime ago named http://wwwPimeyes.com.

Like http://www.Tineye.com but, able to match the face to a name, to an address, to who knows what else, IMHO, it's much, much worserer 🙃. Curious how accurate it might be, their Home page makes it easy enough to simply upload a pic and find out for yourself. I mean, it even has a "Don't worry, it won't be stored", assurance! What could possibly go wrong?

With no way in hell they'd get his Hobbit thought, if not him, who? If not now, when? Picking a random photo with about a dozen faces in it of folk Hobbit don't know off of social media, the service "recognized" four and required Hobbit pick one. THEN, the TOR browser him uses popped a cross-script warning that included the source website embedded in random, five-page long security scripting with four radio button options: block this request, block all requests, allow this request, allow all requests. At this point Hobbit closed it down.

Of course, with our mugs being recorded everywhere from the mall to the airport, plate recognition software in traffic (LE) cams...face recognition i.e., mass surveillance is nothing new. Which begs the question, especially for those of us in relationships and/or reputations and/or licenses to protect, lose, whatever...really?

Be safe out there, gents!

OK, I take the bait that no else will......

What are you trying to say here? What is your POINT?

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I think the point is the OP is warning against sending a photo ID to a ASP when screening.  Because there is facial recognition software out there that can be used to obtain all of your information.  I personally never had a provider ask for ID, but I have had a couple ask for me to send a picture of myself.  I was not comfortable with that so I ended up not booking with them.

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1 hour ago, TML93 said:

I think the point is the OP is warning against sending a photo ID to a ASP when screening.  Because there is facial recognition software out there that can be used to obtain all of your information.  I personally never had a provider ask for ID, but I have had a couple ask for me to send a picture of myself.  I was not comfortable with that so I ended up not booking with them.

Thanks for lending human intelligence hope, @TML93. But wait there's more!

P411, and such, which I won't do because digital trail are one thing but, and this is not to minimize its dangers in any way, providers spreading the hobby's risks with photo ID is like requiring customers pay my litigious business' insurance premiums, or a firefighter hands me the axe with, "YOU make sure the kitty's safe!", or the cop slipping you their badge like, "here, go catch your damned self!." Not just that but, social media, employment, and other, RW verification! Fucking nuts! Pun intended. Like their birth records will match the url://fb.DebbieDDallas.us when John wakes up minus an organ. And, look! It's Mr. Dallas, wearing the organ!

Unlike you and me, there's so much thirst in the world, someone (surely reading this) recently suggested sending a redacted photo ID in the forum, so the ladies feel safe. FOH!

@sparkey600 The POINT is sometimes it's John who loses the craps game.

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1 hour ago, TML93 said:

I think the point is the OP is warning against sending a photo ID to a ASP when screening.  Because there is facial recognition software out there that can be used to obtain all of your information.  I personally never had a provider ask for ID, but I have had a couple ask for me to send a picture of myself.  I was not comfortable with that so I ended up not booking with them.

I forgot to point out another point - Pimeyes.com's system detected the pic's source, when it was uploaded from my PC.

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14 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Thanks for lending human intelligence hope, @TML93. But wait there's more!

P411, and such, which I won't do because digital trail are one thing but, and this is not to minimize its dangers in any way, providers spreading the hobby's risks with photo ID is like requiring customers pay my litigious business' insurance premiums, or a firefighter hands me the axe with, "YOU make sure the kitty's safe!", or the cop slipping you their badge like, "here, go catch your damned self!." Not just that but, social media, employment, and other, RW verification! Fucking nuts! Pun intended. Like their birth records will match the url://fb.DebbieDDallas.us when John wakes up minus an organ. And, look! It's Mr. Dallas, wearing the organ!

Unlike you and me, there's so much thirst in the world, someone (surely reading this) recently suggested sending a redacted photo ID in the forum, so the ladies feel safe. FOH!

@sparkey600 The POINT is sometimes it's John who loses the craps game.

I've read this twice and am still trying to figure our what the hell you are trying to say?

What are you trying to say?

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6 hours ago, sparkey600 said:

I've read this twice and am still trying to figure our what the hell you are trying to say?

What are you trying to say?

Damn, dude! Third time's a charm so read it again. Or go find a damsel in distress. IDFK what to tell you.

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He and his multiple personalities talk in circles and make absolutely no sense!

23 hours ago, sparkey600 said:

I've read this twice and am still trying to figure our what the hell you are trying to say?

What are you trying to say?

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8 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

He and his multiple personalities talk in circles and make absolutely no sense!

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Predicting a retirement party really soon, we've noticed that a lot with you. In the meantime, got Gingko Biloba? https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3889903/

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Many fun activities come with a risk. Our job and yours is to calculate how much risk we are willing to take/not take. I’ve NEVER had trouble with bad clients or LE. I’m cautious where I play and am not high volume. I ideally know “who” is coming through the door, either because they have excellent, trustworthy references, or they gave me enough information to feel comfortable. This is how I mitigate mine/your risks. I have no reason to be reckless with your information. Some ladies don’t do references. Some only accept references. I guess, see someone who doesn’t screen (yikes!🙀), but provides references, so you can get one, find someone you trust to give what information you are comfortable providing, or stay lonely. I don’t know…..

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4 hours ago, Audrey Astor said:

Many fun activities come with a risk. Our job and yours is to calculate how much risk we are willing to take/not take. I’ve NEVER had trouble with bad clients or LE. I’m cautious where I play and am not high volume. I ideally know “who” is coming through the door, either because they have excellent, trustworthy references, or they gave me enough information to feel comfortable. This is how I mitigate mine/your risks. I have no reason to be reckless with your information. Some ladies don’t do references. Some only accept references. I guess, see someone who doesn’t screen (yikes!🙀), but provides references, so you can get one, find someone you trust to give what information you are comfortable providing, or stay lonely. I don’t know…..

Highly speculative since we've never met 😭  as I said before, you are a lady. And, no sand castle princess in here side railing discussions with childishness, you just breeze up in here, provide meaningful input, and out. The essence of woman.

This said, this post isn't to suggest what providers should or should not do in their business practice. Instead, it's to let the hobbyists who, thinking with their teeny-tiny heads and a pocketful or two of Benjamins may not know, they are a redacted ID away from the risk few activities carry, a knock at their door by Officer Vice Friendly. Do you recall that temptress Akira, the tantra practitioner busted for alleged prostitution in the Springs not too long ago? Well, guess what they did with the little black book they found! YUP! HATE it when that happens! So, and even though some of your associates are indeed, very reckless, and some vindictive, it isn't about any individual's recklessness but the layers and layers of risk there are in THIS fun activity which, unlike slot car racing, can be found illegal. Also, some of the most fun can be had from ladies that don't or hardly screen, at all. I plead the fifth. And, unlike some in our midst, the alternative for me never includes loneliness so don't get it twisted.

P.S. - I have a few references if you're interested. 😋

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A few observations relative to the OP and the original post and ensuing posts.

So I take it you are suggesting also that the ladies never ever post ads with any portion of their face showing so as not to fall victim to this nefarious facial recognition software also, or is it just guys that should avoid sharing facial details? Perhaps OP could clarify his position on this.

References are only as good as the one giving them and may reflect one visit and one visit only.  Violent psychos have been known to have references, including right here in River City.  Ladies have been known to be afraid NOT to give references to the truly dangerous psychos.  Something about self preservation.

Because of the frequency and severity of escorts being assaulted, beaten, robbed, stalked and sometimes killed the state legislature approved the safe reporting law so that escorts can report these felony crimes committed by the all too common bad actors.  BUT the only way that works is if the lady has REAL identification.  Reporting a bad actor with only his TOB handle (or any other site that does NOT verify male members with real ID info) will go nowhere and is not actionable by LE.  For some mysterious reason there is no safe reporting law for johns - perhaps because the dangers are not remotely similar?

If you fear a wife finding out you are cheating on her and the resulting drama, perhaps you should not be cheating on her.  Just a thought.  Reputation - what afraid to admit you see escorts? Perhaps you shouldn't do things you are ashamed of.  Lose a license?  What kind?  Yes, I am quite aware one COULD lose a professional license (seriously doubt OP has one) for any felony conviction,  but seeing an escort is not a felony.

In the interest of more productive threads and better participation could OP PLEASE refrain from attempting to be witty and glib because he is neither and it just makes reading his posts EXTREMELY difficult to decipher. 

If a lady does not care about her safety (rigorous screening etc. ) she sure as hell does not care about mine.  Major red flag.

Constantly trying to pick shit with a handful of ladies you do not like so as to be able to insult and belittle them is really getting old.  Find another hobby for your limited talents.

As stated dozens of times here - some by me, many by others - everyone needs to establish their own level of risk/reward based upon their own circumstances, what they may stand to lose, etc.  If the other party has needs in that regard that do not mesh with yours, simply move on without whining.  

Trying to brow beat ladies into not availing themselves of available simple screening methods that are both effective in avoiding dangerous assholes but also in reporting them if the screening fails to identify or discourage them is simply despicable.  If you are not comfortable giving a lady your real name, why not?  Did you not bother to research her and know what you are likely getting into?  If not why inflict her with your laziness and poor decisions?

OP uses TOR and presumably frequents dark web (main reason for TOR) but does not know how to block his IP address and information from an app site???  Hilarious.

Yes, I am a grey knight and OP is color blind and thinks it is white, yawn, spare me the nonsense and just don't.

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Thank you so much for helping us understand what he was writing about @Audrey Astor and @gr8owl. You need not talk in charter please. I think that is where we all where getting confused. And no nothing to do personal but please if you or @skinnydud have issues with me? Please contact me privately. My email is listed. As well as other contact information. I am more then reasonable. I just get upset when there is too much negative talk and the talk is about inflicting violence.  that is it for me and my personal complaint. . As for showing my face? My family as well as most of my friends are fine with what I do in life. One even laughs and calls me badass blind Kali! Go figure on that?! I am relaxed and easy going. 

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Dark web? What are you trying to purchase? Now that’s creepy.

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Talk about manifesto, that's a lot but, it took a lot of brain power you don't have to write it so, here goes nothing...

On 10/30/2023 at 9:46 PM, gr8owl said:

A few observations relative to the OP and the original post and ensuing posts.

So I take it you are suggesting also that the ladies never ever post ads with any portion of their face showing so as not to fall victim to this nefarious facial recognition software also, or is it just guys that should avoid sharing facial details? Perhaps OP could clarify his position on this. Happily. Duhhh...what a stupid thought this is. if they are to attract and keep a clientele, providers are well-advised to show their face, body...everything we like to see, and not see, and from the right angle so as to show what THEY have in store, or not. Seems you don't know, the former is called advertising, the latter false. In this context, guys solicit, peruse ads for what they like, and have no reason to advertise anything, but their Benjamins. I mean, do you send your picture to the Safeway cashier? Don't answer that. Since we're on the subject, why is it so many providers hide their face and other body parts? Could it be they don't want to be known for what they do?

References are only as good as the one giving them and may reflect one visit and one visit only.  Violent psychos have been known to have references, including right here in River City.  Ladies have been known to be afraid NOT to give references to the truly dangerous psychos.  Something about self preservation. Yaaawn. And? Is it all hobbyists you lack the intellect to understand are psychos, or is that just me? Sure you'll choose the latter because you're so smart, the only thing you know about me is how witty, glib, inspired, insert passive-aggressive insult here I'm not.

Because of the frequency and severity of escorts being assaulted, beaten, robbed, stalked and sometimes killed the state legislature approved the safe reporting law so that escorts can report these felony crimes committed by the all too common bad actors.  BUT the only way that works is if the lady has REAL identification.  Reporting a bad actor with only his TOB handle (or any other site that does NOT verify male members with real ID info) will go nowhere and is not actionable by LE.  Again, not to diminish the dangers within but, was it Fishin Dude that liked to suggest slot car racing as an alternative? There's always fast food! For some mysterious reason there is no safe reporting law for johns - perhaps because the dangers are not remotely similar? Or maybe because dead johns (men) are even less important than dead providers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men True story. A provider whose ass reeked of pure shit pulled a machete out when her would be client asked for his money back. Who's he going to tell? Happens all the time, if you're looking. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pimp+robs+john&ia=web

If you fear a wife finding out you are cheating on her and the resulting drama, perhaps you should not be cheating on her. Just a thought. Reputation - what afraid to admit you see escorts? Perhaps you shouldn't do things you are ashamed of.  I'd bet you're triple vaxxed and boosted, for grandma of course! Oh, how we love virtue signaling, don't we? Blow it out your ass. With estimates ranging anywhere from 50% - 90%, the truth is most if not the majority of hobbyists are in committed relationships. Call it self-preservation, the fear of hurting someone they love, whatever. That they are scared to death of being discovered is why police use tactics that include printing successful stings in the newspaper, to deter criminal activity. Of course, that leaves the very small percentage of hobbyists with nothing to lose, perhaps because of existentialism, or that they have no other way of experiencing the scent of a woman, were it not for their hard earned cash. These are simps, and you've proven to be, every bit of that. Lose a license?  What kind?  Yes, I am quite aware one COULD lose a professional license (seriously doubt OP has one) for any felony conviction,  but seeing an escort is not a felony. Is this where you receive proof of licensing or just get over yourself?

In the interest of more productive threads and better participation could OP PLEASE refrain from attempting to be witty and glib because he is neither and it just makes reading his posts EXTREMELY difficult to decipher. Instead of taking so much time to share such adulation how about scroll or block? No one, least of all the Hobbit, gives a shit what you "think", but I do like to take time to dance circles around your infinite wisdom, old wise one.

If a lady does not care about her safety (rigorous screening etc. ) she sure as hell does not care about mine. Major red flag. Yaaawn. And? No one but the ladies, and you, said any of this.

Constantly trying to pick shit with a handful of ladies you do not like so as to be able to insult and belittle them is really getting old.  Find another hobby for your limited talents. There's that scroll or block again! And don't start none, won't be none.

As stated dozens of times here - some by me, many by others - everyone needs to establish their own level of risk/reward based upon their own circumstances, what they may stand to lose, etc.  If the other party has needs in that regard that do not mesh with yours, simply move on without whining. 

Trying to brow beat ladies into not availing themselves of available simple screening methods that are both effective in avoiding dangerous assholes but also in reporting them if the screening fails to identify or discourage them is simply despicable.  So, the WHITE knight because WTF is a grey knight, doesn't like what is essentially a PSA for the gents and, due to their superior wit, misinterprets it as another, "ladies should run their business this way" post which it's not, and? Such poor reading comprehension, is it dyslexia? If you are not comfortable giving a lady your real name, why not? So I admit not being able to imagine that being a thing, but I know some of you are OK with that, and that I'm not the only one who won't. Did you not bother to research her and know what you are likely getting into?  If not why inflict her with your laziness and poor decisions? Yaaaawn!

OP uses TOR and presumably frequents dark web (main reason for TOR) but does not know how to block his IP address and information from an app site???  Hilarious - is exactly right. Read my post again, and notice it isn't about blocking my IP address, blocking information from any app site - none of that, but that sending one's picture to a provider is inherently risky and with the advent of technology, is increasingly so. That's it. A fact. And that you pretend I'm a psycho anomaly doesn't make it less factual. Read it again and notice, if you can, that I never mentioned an IP! BTW, do you know what that stands for without looking it up? The only mention that comes remotely close is that the TOR browser detected the pic's source address, a completely different component of internet technology. If you spent as much time minding your business as you do understanding mine or how the world works why, the world know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop!

Yes, I am a grey knight and OP is color blind and thinks it is white ?, yawn, spare me the nonsense and just don't. Never heard of grey knights in the hobby world but, you made me look, and it makes sense now. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grayknight.asp

Bye Felicia!

 

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On 10/31/2023 at 6:03 AM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

Dark web? What are you trying to purchase? Now that’s creepy.

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Don't quit your day job!

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2 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Talk about manifesto, that's a lot but, it took a lot of brain power you don't have to write it so, here goes nothing...

 

A few observations relative to the OP and the original post and ensuing posts.

So I take it you are suggesting also that the ladies never ever post ads with any portion of their face showing so as not to fall victim to this nefarious facial recognition software also, or is it just guys that should avoid sharing facial details? Perhaps OP could clarify his position on this. Happily. Duhhh...what a stupid thought this is. if they are to attract and keep a clientele, providers are well-advised to show their face, body...everything we like to see, and not see, and from the right angle so as to show what THEY have in store, or not. Seems you don't know, the former is called advertising, the latter false. In this context, guys solicit, peruse ads for what they like, and have no reason to advertise anything, but their Benjamins. I mean, do you send your picture to the Safeway cashier? Don't answer that. Since we're on the subject, why is it so many providers hide their face and other body parts? Could it be they don't want to be known for what they do? So a lady protecting her real life identity is a stupid thought in your opinion but vital for a john to the point of expecting ladies not to screen.  Thanks for  confirming what a shallow jackass you are.

References are only as good as the one giving them and may reflect one visit and one visit only.  Violent psychos have been known to have references, including right here in River City.  Ladies have been known to be afraid NOT to give references to the truly dangerous psychos.  Something about self preservation. Yaaawn. And? Is it all hobbyists you lack the intellect to understand are psychos, or is that just me? Sure you'll choose the latter because you're so smart, the only thing you know about me is how witty, glib, inspired, insert passive-aggressive insult here I'm not. No, dumb ass, unlike you I am smart enough to know the majority of johns are NOT psychos and in fact many are great guys and mentally stable.  Foreign concept to you obviously.  What a sad little world you live in. But if you truly think all are psychos - thanks for confirming YOU are. Should the great prevalence of psychos not suggest a much greater need to screen real world info?

Because of the frequency and severity of escorts being assaulted, beaten, robbed, stalked and sometimes killed the state legislature approved the safe reporting law so that escorts can report these felony crimes committed by the all too common bad actors.  BUT the only way that works is if the lady has REAL identification.  Reporting a bad actor with only his TOB handle (or any other site that does NOT verify male members with real ID info) will go nowhere and is not actionable by LE.  Again, not to diminish the dangers within but, was it Fishin Dude that liked to suggest slot car racing as an alternative? There's always fast food! For some mysterious reason there is no safe reporting law for johns - perhaps because the dangers are not remotely similar? Or maybe because dead johns (men) are even less important than dead providers? Or perhaps because the reverse RARELY happens as opposed to the threat to ladies happening often.  I can imagine your fear of being attacked by a 5'-2" 110 lb lady.  The horror!! Who would think such an internet tough guy would be so afraid of little ladies? By your logic invoking a well liked now gone dude you should take up stamp collecting as your hobby.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men True story. A provider whose ass reeked of pure shit pulled a machete out when her would be client asked for his money back. Who's he going to tell? Happens all the time, if you're looking. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pimp+robs+john&ia=web

If you fear a wife finding out you are cheating on her and the resulting drama, perhaps you should not be cheating on her. Just a thought. Reputation - what afraid to admit you see escorts? Perhaps you shouldn't do things you are ashamed of.  I'd bet you're triple vaxxed and boosted, for grandma of course! Oh, how we love virtue signaling, don't we? Blow it out your ass. With estimates ranging anywhere from 50% - 90%, the truth is most if not the majority of hobbyists are in committed relationships. Call it self-preservation, the fear of hurting someone they love, whatever. That they are scared to death of being discovered is why police use tactics that include printing successful stings in the newspaper, to deter criminal activity. Of course, that leaves the very small percentage of hobbyists with nothing to lose, perhaps because of existentialism, or that they have no other way of experiencing the scent of a woman, were it not for their hard earned cash. These are simps, and you've proven to be, every bit of that.  Simple observation - if something presents great risk to you, why do it?  And cheaters ALWAYS have another option - it is called divorce.  Or be honest and inform spouse what you are doing and why - like many here have.  Cheating is NOT a necessity of life.  Simple facts, no virtue signalingLose a license?  What kind?  Yes, I am quite aware one COULD lose a professional license (seriously doubt OP has one) for any felony conviction,  but seeing an escort is not a felony. Is this where you receive proof of licensing or just get over yourself? You brought it up dumb ass.  Simply asking WHAT kind of license you have that you could possibly lose over frequenting an escort and getting caught. BTW trying to attack someone through vax status and his long dead grandma is pretty low even for the Habit.  But since you brought it up - I agree for you - please by all means do NOT get vaccinated against anything - I support your decision whole heartedly, you shouldn't.

In the interest of more productive threads and better participation could OP PLEASE refrain from attempting to be witty and glib because he is neither and it just makes reading his posts EXTREMELY difficult to decipher. Instead of taking so much time to share such adulation how about scroll or block? No one, least of all the Hobbit, gives a shit what you "think", but I do like to take time to dance circles around your infinite wisdom, old wise one. Not the first one, in this thread alone, to note that your rants are extremely tedious to translate simply because you THINK you are demonstrating your brilliance and writing acumen.  

If a lady does not care about her safety (rigorous screening etc. ) she sure as hell does not care about mine. Major red flag. Yaaawn. And? No one but the ladies, and you, said any of this. So dispute it with logic or facts, dumb ass.  Reality - Many guys know this just as I do.

 

Constantly trying to pick shit with a handful of ladies you do not like so as to be able to insult and belittle them is really getting old.  Find another hobby for your limited talents. There's that scroll or block again! And don't start none, won't be none. Put asinine stuff out there in public and it will get challenged in public for the benefit of those reading that know very little and are just starting who MIGHT be naive enough to actually think you have a clue of what you are talking about.

As stated dozens of times here - some by me, many by others - everyone needs to establish their own level of risk/reward based upon their own circumstances, what they may stand to lose, etc.  If the other party has needs in that regard that do not mesh with yours, simply move on without whining. 

Trying to brow beat ladies into not availing themselves of available simple screening methods that are both effective in avoiding dangerous assholes but also in reporting them if the screening fails to identify or discourage them is simply despicable.  So, the WHITE knight because WTF is a grey knight, doesn't like what is essentially a PSA for the gents and, due to their superior wit, misinterprets it as another, "ladies should run their business this way" post which it's not, and? Such poor reading comprehension, is it dyslexia? If you are not comfortable giving a lady your real name, why not? So I admit not being able to imagine that being a thing, but I know some of you are OK with that, and that I'm not the only one who won't. Did you not bother to research her and know what you are likely getting into?  If not why inflict her with your laziness and poor decisions? Yaaaawn!  For the viewers who have not been subjected to Hobby Habit's impressive stupidity, "yawn" translates to "damn I wish I could think of an answer but can't and ran out of saved memes"  Again, dumb ass, it is not me who has a comprehension issue - except with regard to your vacuous rants. So as a PSA, why should ladies not protect themselves from the same nefarious danger you brought up?  Answer because that flies in the face of the real intent - to try to brow beat the ladies into not screening with real world information because poor little Habit only cares about himself.  Go forth and enjoy the hell out of seeing ladies that don't screen and will see any random dumb ass like you and hope for the best.  Bet it turns out great!

OP uses TOR and presumably frequents dark web (main reason for TOR) but does not know how to block his IP address and information from an app site???  Hilarious - is exactly right. Read my post again, and notice it isn't about blocking my IP address, blocking information from any app site - none of that, but that sending one's picture to a provider is inherently risky and with the advent of technology, is increasingly so. That's it. A fact. And that you pretend I'm a psycho anomaly doesn't make it less factual. Read it again and notice, if you can, that I never mentioned an IP! BTW, do you know what that stands for without looking it up? The only mention that comes remotely close is that the TOR browser detected the pic's source address, a completely different component of internet technology. If you spent as much time minding your business as you do understanding mine or how the world works why, the world know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! Blah, blah translation - "I got caught so I must lash out hard to pretend the Owl is the dumb ass in the conversation"  Nice try.  Questioning my computer literacy - another absolutely hilarious one oh great dumb ass.

Yes, I am a grey knight and OP is color blind and thinks it is white ?, yawn, spare me the nonsense and just don't. Never heard of grey knights in the hobby world but, you made me look, and it makes sense now. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grayknight.asp Nope, simply pre-empting your usual asinine response to being challenged on some inane post. Gotta say this is a new record for pathetically irrelevant response.

Bye Felicia! Do not get my hopes up, saying bye to you would be so sweet, no sorrow involved.

In conclusion, ladies, please do adequate screening to protect yourselves and it was quite the long battle by many to get the safe reporting law passed, you should avail yourself of the recourse and protection it provides and that requires real world info.  Whether Habit likes it or not.  Said law is still posted at the top of Colorado section btw.

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Some people choose not to or enjoy the question of why we need to screen. Let me just say that it is not to publicly humiliate you or contact your wife or job. It is for the lady's safety only. Good people can change and also they can look safe on the outside and end up being Ted Bundy in disguise. This is something to think about seriously, even if the guy is smaller. Us ladies are at risk with what we do! 

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3 hours ago, gr8owl said:

A few observations relative to the OP and the original post and ensuing posts.

So I take it you are suggesting also that the ladies never ever post ads with any portion of their face showing so as not to fall victim to this nefarious facial recognition software also, or is it just guys that should avoid sharing facial details? Perhaps OP could clarify his position on this. Happily. Duhhh...what a stupid thought this is. if they are to attract and keep a clientele, providers are well-advised to show their face, body...everything we like to see, and not see, and from the right angle so as to show what THEY have in store, or not. Seems you don't know, the former is called advertising, the latter false. In this context, guys solicit, peruse ads for what they like, and have no reason to advertise anything, but their Benjamins. I mean, do you send your picture to the Safeway cashier? Don't answer that. Since we're on the subject, why is it so many providers hide their face and other body parts? Could it be they don't want to be known for what they do? So a lady protecting her real life identity is a stupid thought in your opinion but vital for a john to the point of expecting ladies not to screen.  Thanks for  confirming what a shallow jackass you are.

References are only as good as the one giving them and may reflect one visit and one visit only.  Violent psychos have been known to have references, including right here in River City.  Ladies have been known to be afraid NOT to give references to the truly dangerous psychos.  Something about self preservation. Yaaawn. And? Is it all hobbyists you lack the intellect to understand are psychos, or is that just me? Sure you'll choose the latter because you're so smart, the only thing you know about me is how witty, glib, inspired, insert passive-aggressive insult here I'm not. No, dumb ass, unlike you I am smart enough to know the majority of johns are NOT psychos and in fact many are great guys and mentally stable.  Foreign concept to you obviously.  What a sad little world you live in. But if you truly think all are psychos - thanks for confirming YOU are. Should the great prevalence of psychos not suggest a much greater need to screen real world info?

Because of the frequency and severity of escorts being assaulted, beaten, robbed, stalked and sometimes killed the state legislature approved the safe reporting law so that escorts can report these felony crimes committed by the all too common bad actors.  BUT the only way that works is if the lady has REAL identification.  Reporting a bad actor with only his TOB handle (or any other site that does NOT verify male members with real ID info) will go nowhere and is not actionable by LE.  Again, not to diminish the dangers within but, was it Fishin Dude that liked to suggest slot car racing as an alternative? There's always fast food! For some mysterious reason there is no safe reporting law for johns - perhaps because the dangers are not remotely similar? Or maybe because dead johns (men) are even less important than dead providers? Or perhaps because the reverse RARELY happens as opposed to the threat to ladies happening often.  I can imagine your fear of being attacked by a 5'-2" 110 lb lady.  The horror!! Who would think such an internet tough guy would be so afraid of little ladies? By your logic invoking a well liked now gone dude you should take up stamp collecting as your hobby.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men True story. A provider whose ass reeked of pure shit pulled a machete out when her would be client asked for his money back. Who's he going to tell? Happens all the time, if you're looking. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pimp+robs+john&ia=web

If you fear a wife finding out you are cheating on her and the resulting drama, perhaps you should not be cheating on her. Just a thought. Reputation - what afraid to admit you see escorts? Perhaps you shouldn't do things you are ashamed of.  I'd bet you're triple vaxxed and boosted, for grandma of course! Oh, how we love virtue signaling, don't we? Blow it out your ass. With estimates ranging anywhere from 50% - 90%, the truth is most if not the majority of hobbyists are in committed relationships. Call it self-preservation, the fear of hurting someone they love, whatever. That they are scared to death of being discovered is why police use tactics that include printing successful stings in the newspaper, to deter criminal activity. Of course, that leaves the very small percentage of hobbyists with nothing to lose, perhaps because of existentialism, or that they have no other way of experiencing the scent of a woman, were it not for their hard earned cash. These are simps, and you've proven to be, every bit of that.  Simple observation - if something presents great risk to you, why do it?  And cheaters ALWAYS have another option - it is called divorce.  Or be honest and inform spouse what you are doing and why - like many here have.  Cheating is NOT a necessity of life.  Simple facts, no virtue signalingLose a license?  What kind?  Yes, I am quite aware one COULD lose a professional license (seriously doubt OP has one) for any felony conviction,  but seeing an escort is not a felony. Is this where you receive proof of licensing or just get over yourself? You brought it up dumb ass.  Simply asking WHAT kind of license you have that you could possibly lose over frequenting an escort and getting caught. BTW trying to attack someone through vax status and his long dead grandma is pretty low even for the Habit.  But since you brought it up - I agree for you - please by all means do NOT get vaccinated against anything - I support your decision whole heartedly, you shouldn't.

In the interest of more productive threads and better participation could OP PLEASE refrain from attempting to be witty and glib because he is neither and it just makes reading his posts EXTREMELY difficult to decipher. Instead of taking so much time to share such adulation how about scroll or block? No one, least of all the Hobbit, gives a shit what you "think", but I do like to take time to dance circles around your infinite wisdom, old wise one. Not the first one, in this thread alone, to note that your rants are extremely tedious to translate simply because you THINK you are demonstrating your brilliance and writing acumen.  

If a lady does not care about her safety (rigorous screening etc. ) she sure as hell does not care about mine. Major red flag. Yaaawn. And? No one but the ladies, and you, said any of this. So dispute it with logic or facts, dumb ass.  Reality - Many guys know this just as I do.

 

Constantly trying to pick shit with a handful of ladies you do not like so as to be able to insult and belittle them is really getting old.  Find another hobby for your limited talents. There's that scroll or block again! And don't start none, won't be none. Put asinine stuff out there in public and it will get challenged in public for the benefit of those reading that know very little and are just starting who MIGHT be naive enough to actually think you have a clue of what you are talking about.

As stated dozens of times here - some by me, many by others - everyone needs to establish their own level of risk/reward based upon their own circumstances, what they may stand to lose, etc.  If the other party has needs in that regard that do not mesh with yours, simply move on without whining. 

Trying to brow beat ladies into not availing themselves of available simple screening methods that are both effective in avoiding dangerous assholes but also in reporting them if the screening fails to identify or discourage them is simply despicable.  So, the WHITE knight because WTF is a grey knight, doesn't like what is essentially a PSA for the gents and, due to their superior wit, misinterprets it as another, "ladies should run their business this way" post which it's not, and? Such poor reading comprehension, is it dyslexia? If you are not comfortable giving a lady your real name, why not? So I admit not being able to imagine that being a thing, but I know some of you are OK with that, and that I'm not the only one who won't. Did you not bother to research her and know what you are likely getting into?  If not why inflict her with your laziness and poor decisions? Yaaaawn!  For the viewers who have not been subjected to Hobby Habit's impressive stupidity, "yawn" translates to "damn I wish I could think of an answer but can't and ran out of saved memes"  Again, dumb ass, it is not me who has a comprehension issue - except with regard to your vacuous rants. So as a PSA, why should ladies not protect themselves from the same nefarious danger you brought up?  Answer because that flies in the face of the real intent - to try to brow beat the ladies into not screening with real world information because poor little Habit only cares about himself.  Go forth and enjoy the hell out of seeing ladies that don't screen and will see any random dumb ass like you and hope for the best.  Bet it turns out great!

OP uses TOR and presumably frequents dark web (main reason for TOR) but does not know how to block his IP address and information from an app site???  Hilarious - is exactly right. Read my post again, and notice it isn't about blocking my IP address, blocking information from any app site - none of that, but that sending one's picture to a provider is inherently risky and with the advent of technology, is increasingly so. That's it. A fact. And that you pretend I'm a psycho anomaly doesn't make it less factual. Read it again and notice, if you can, that I never mentioned an IP! BTW, do you know what that stands for without looking it up? The only mention that comes remotely close is that the TOR browser detected the pic's source address, a completely different component of internet technology. If you spent as much time minding your business as you do understanding mine or how the world works why, the world know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! Blah, blah translation - "I got caught so I must lash out hard to pretend the Owl is the dumb ass in the conversation"  Nice try.  Questioning my computer literacy - another absolutely hilarious one oh great dumb ass.

Yes, I am a grey knight and OP is color blind and thinks it is white ?, yawn, spare me the nonsense and just don't. Never heard of grey knights in the hobby world but, you made me look, and it makes sense now. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grayknight.asp Nope, simply pre-empting your usual asinine response to being challenged on some inane post. Gotta say this is a new record for pathetically irrelevant response.

Bye Felicia! Do not get my hopes up, saying bye to you would be so sweet, no sorrow involved.

In conclusion, ladies, please do adequate screening to protect yourselves and it was quite the long battle by many to get the safe reporting law passed, you should avail yourself of the recourse and protection it provides and that requires real world info.  Whether Habit likes it or not.  Said law is still posted at the top of Colorado section btw.

That one person and one alone got the post's premise without prompting or the need for further explaining as in, right away, tells all there is to know. As for you, panties always in a bunch about little old me, spinning everything I say in the worst way possible, worse than the real ladies I supposedly despise so much, it is you who needs a new "Habbit" but then, who else would you possibly bribe I mean, convince to suffer the mangina? As for my carefully curated gif cache? Really I just search for what comes to mind.

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17 hours ago, gr8owl said:

A few observations relative to the OP and the original post and ensuing posts.

So I take it you are suggesting also that the ladies never ever post ads with any portion of their face showing so as not to fall victim to this nefarious facial recognition software also, or is it just guys that should avoid sharing facial details? Perhaps OP could clarify his position on this. Happily. Duhhh...what a stupid thought this is. if they are to attract and keep a clientele, providers are well-advised to show their face, body...everything we like to see, and not see, and from the right angle so as to show what THEY have in store, or not. Seems you don't know, the former is called advertising, the latter false. In this context, guys solicit, peruse ads for what they like, and have no reason to advertise anything, but their Benjamins. I mean, do you send your picture to the Safeway cashier? Don't answer that. Since we're on the subject, why is it so many providers hide their face and other body parts? Could it be they don't want to be known for what they do? So a lady protecting her real life identity is a stupid thought in your opinion but vital for a john to the point of expecting ladies not to screen.  Thanks for  confirming what a shallow jackass you are.

References are only as good as the one giving them and may reflect one visit and one visit only.  Violent psychos have been known to have references, including right here in River City.  Ladies have been known to be afraid NOT to give references to the truly dangerous psychos.  Something about self preservation. Yaaawn. And? Is it all hobbyists you lack the intellect to understand are psychos, or is that just me? Sure you'll choose the latter because you're so smart, the only thing you know about me is how witty, glib, inspired, insert passive-aggressive insult here I'm not. No, dumb ass, unlike you I am smart enough to know the majority of johns are NOT psychos and in fact many are great guys and mentally stable.  Foreign concept to you obviously.  What a sad little world you live in. But if you truly think all are psychos - thanks for confirming YOU are. Should the great prevalence of psychos not suggest a much greater need to screen real world info?

Because of the frequency and severity of escorts being assaulted, beaten, robbed, stalked and sometimes killed the state legislature approved the safe reporting law so that escorts can report these felony crimes committed by the all too common bad actors.  BUT the only way that works is if the lady has REAL identification.  Reporting a bad actor with only his TOB handle (or any other site that does NOT verify male members with real ID info) will go nowhere and is not actionable by LE.  Again, not to diminish the dangers within but, was it Fishin Dude that liked to suggest slot car racing as an alternative? There's always fast food! For some mysterious reason there is no safe reporting law for johns - perhaps because the dangers are not remotely similar? Or maybe because dead johns (men) are even less important than dead providers? Or perhaps because the reverse RARELY happens as opposed to the threat to ladies happening often.  I can imagine your fear of being attacked by a 5'-2" 110 lb lady.  The horror!! Who would think such an internet tough guy would be so afraid of little ladies? By your logic invoking a well liked now gone dude you should take up stamp collecting as your hobby.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men True story. A provider whose ass reeked of pure shit pulled a machete out when her would be client asked for his money back. Who's he going to tell? Happens all the time, if you're looking. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pimp+robs+john&ia=web

If you fear a wife finding out you are cheating on her and the resulting drama, perhaps you should not be cheating on her. Just a thought. Reputation - what afraid to admit you see escorts? Perhaps you shouldn't do things you are ashamed of.  I'd bet you're triple vaxxed and boosted, for grandma of course! Oh, how we love virtue signaling, don't we? Blow it out your ass. With estimates ranging anywhere from 50% - 90%, the truth is most if not the majority of hobbyists are in committed relationships. Call it self-preservation, the fear of hurting someone they love, whatever. That they are scared to death of being discovered is why police use tactics that include printing successful stings in the newspaper, to deter criminal activity. Of course, that leaves the very small percentage of hobbyists with nothing to lose, perhaps because of existentialism, or that they have no other way of experiencing the scent of a woman, were it not for their hard earned cash. These are simps, and you've proven to be, every bit of that.  Simple observation - if something presents great risk to you, why do it?  And cheaters ALWAYS have another option - it is called divorce.  Or be honest and inform spouse what you are doing and why - like many here have.  Cheating is NOT a necessity of life.  Simple facts, no virtue signalingLose a license?  What kind?  Yes, I am quite aware one COULD lose a professional license (seriously doubt OP has one) for any felony conviction,  but seeing an escort is not a felony. Is this where you receive proof of licensing or just get over yourself? You brought it up dumb ass.  Simply asking WHAT kind of license you have that you could possibly lose over frequenting an escort and getting caught. BTW trying to attack someone through vax status and his long dead grandma is pretty low even for the Habit.  But since you brought it up - I agree for you - please by all means do NOT get vaccinated against anything - I support your decision whole heartedly, you shouldn't.

In the interest of more productive threads and better participation could OP PLEASE refrain from attempting to be witty and glib because he is neither and it just makes reading his posts EXTREMELY difficult to decipher. Instead of taking so much time to share such adulation how about scroll or block? No one, least of all the Hobbit, gives a shit what you "think", but I do like to take time to dance circles around your infinite wisdom, old wise one. Not the first one, in this thread alone, to note that your rants are extremely tedious to translate simply because you THINK you are demonstrating your brilliance and writing acumen.  

If a lady does not care about her safety (rigorous screening etc. ) she sure as hell does not care about mine. Major red flag. Yaaawn. And? No one but the ladies, and you, said any of this. So dispute it with logic or facts, dumb ass.  Reality - Many guys know this just as I do.

 

Constantly trying to pick shit with a handful of ladies you do not like so as to be able to insult and belittle them is really getting old.  Find another hobby for your limited talents. There's that scroll or block again! And don't start none, won't be none. Put asinine stuff out there in public and it will get challenged in public for the benefit of those reading that know very little and are just starting who MIGHT be naive enough to actually think you have a clue of what you are talking about.

As stated dozens of times here - some by me, many by others - everyone needs to establish their own level of risk/reward based upon their own circumstances, what they may stand to lose, etc.  If the other party has needs in that regard that do not mesh with yours, simply move on without whining. 

Trying to brow beat ladies into not availing themselves of available simple screening methods that are both effective in avoiding dangerous assholes but also in reporting them if the screening fails to identify or discourage them is simply despicable.  So, the WHITE knight because WTF is a grey knight, doesn't like what is essentially a PSA for the gents and, due to their superior wit, misinterprets it as another, "ladies should run their business this way" post which it's not, and? Such poor reading comprehension, is it dyslexia? If you are not comfortable giving a lady your real name, why not? So I admit not being able to imagine that being a thing, but I know some of you are OK with that, and that I'm not the only one who won't. Did you not bother to research her and know what you are likely getting into?  If not why inflict her with your laziness and poor decisions? Yaaaawn!  For the viewers who have not been subjected to Hobby Habit's impressive stupidity, "yawn" translates to "damn I wish I could think of an answer but can't and ran out of saved memes"  Again, dumb ass, it is not me who has a comprehension issue - except with regard to your vacuous rants. So as a PSA, why should ladies not protect themselves from the same nefarious danger you brought up?  Answer because that flies in the face of the real intent - to try to brow beat the ladies into not screening with real world information because poor little Habit only cares about himself.  Go forth and enjoy the hell out of seeing ladies that don't screen and will see any random dumb ass like you and hope for the best.  Bet it turns out great!

OP uses TOR and presumably frequents dark web (main reason for TOR) but does not know how to block his IP address and information from an app site???  Hilarious - is exactly right. Read my post again, and notice it isn't about blocking my IP address, blocking information from any app site - none of that, but that sending one's picture to a provider is inherently risky and with the advent of technology, is increasingly so. That's it. A fact. And that you pretend I'm a psycho anomaly doesn't make it less factual. Read it again and notice, if you can, that I never mentioned an IP! BTW, do you know what that stands for without looking it up? The only mention that comes remotely close is that the TOR browser detected the pic's source address, a completely different component of internet technology. If you spent as much time minding your business as you do understanding mine or how the world works why, the world know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! Blah, blah translation - "I got caught so I must lash out hard to pretend the Owl is the dumb ass in the conversation"  Nice try.  Questioning my computer literacy - another absolutely hilarious one oh great dumb ass.

Yes, I am a grey knight and OP is color blind and thinks it is white ?, yawn, spare me the nonsense and just don't. Never heard of grey knights in the hobby world but, you made me look, and it makes sense now. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grayknight.asp Nope, simply pre-empting your usual asinine response to being challenged on some inane post. Gotta say this is a new record for pathetically irrelevant response.

Bye Felicia! Do not get my hopes up, saying bye to you would be so sweet, no sorrow involved.

In conclusion, ladies, please do adequate screening to protect yourselves and it was quite the long battle by many to get the safe reporting law passed, you should avail yourself of the recourse and protection it provides and that requires real world info.  Whether Habit likes it or not.  Said law is still posted at the top of Colorado section btw.

Just one more thing. I know the pad was irritating your mangina but I had to question your computer literacy. Not sorry.

In conclusion, gents. Some men have woman where it counts. So let your sons grow up to cowboys.

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35 minutes ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Just one more thing. I know the pad was irritating your mangina but I had to question your computer literacy. Not sorry.

In conclusion, gents. Some men have woman where it counts. So let your sons grow up to cowboys.

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@gr8owl I got and concede to your point, which is to use the TOR browser is to "hide the IP". Now will you please go wash that thing!

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5 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Just one more thing. I know the pad was irritating your mangina but I had to question your computer literacy. Not sorry.

In conclusion, gents. Some men have woman where it counts. So let your sons grow up to cowboys.

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Spare yourself the trauma of dealing with normal people, stay home and do yourself.  We will all be happier that way.

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22 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

Some people choose not to or enjoy the question of why we need to screen. Let me just say that it is not to publicly humiliate you or contact your wife or job. It is for the lady's safety only. Good people can change and also they can look safe on the outside and end up being Ted Bundy in disguise. This is something to think about seriously, even if the guy is smaller. Us ladies are at risk with what we do! 

Each of us can only speak for ourselves. No exception, YOU cannot say what others will or won't do, especially when under pressure, in which case whoever is on a provider's phone is water under the bridge, or toast. End of story. Given the highly individualized nature of this hobby, generally lone wolves doing what lone wolves do, frankly it's disingenuous how many of you imagine yourselves to be THE Dick/Pussy Whisperer.

Meaning to share exactly what this post is about, mass surveillance, you do you. I personally don't care how many hobbyists make the cut of any provider, or don't, nor do I care if you or anyone else likes, or dislikes what I do and express, or don't.

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1 hour ago, gr8owl said:

Spare yourself the trauma of dealing with normal people, stay home and do yourself.  We will all be happier that way.

Something tells me few would know this better than you and your friend, Benjamin.

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And now! From the mind of NopsYcho! The following dramatization is a case in point based on real events.

Having just visited a friend, John is well on his way back to his RW when he becomes the target of a "traffic stop" during which he is interrogated...

Officer Vice Friendly: Where are you going? Where are you coming from? Who did you see? Why?

John Shitting Bricks: Oh, nothing. Just hanging with friends.

Officer Friendly: Tell the truth. Look, it's not you we're looking for, John. She's already working with us. Tell the truth.

John Shitting Bricks: That's nice. I'm just shaking hands and kissing babies.

Officer Friendly: OK, the truth this time.

John Shitting Bricks: Nothing wrong with kissing babies, is there Officer?

Officer Friendly: Of course not, John Shitting Bricks

John Shitting Bricks: Great! Can I go now?

Officer Friendly: Be careful out there.

Shaken to shivers, John Shitting Bricks makes it away, placing her on the PERMANENT DNC list. Months later, little-head wins the craps shoot, reaches out to the friend to say, you're "hot"! "Oh that? I know", she says, "But I moved. Want to hang out?" "Umm, how about no thanks?"

 

Alternate Ending

Busted for hobby proclivities and, oh...name something worse. She (or he) flips, plugs into the matrix. And...

Dear John,

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On 11/5/2023 at 1:15 AM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

Oh you got busted. Sorry to hear! 

No one "got busted". As usual, you miss the point.

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It’s a well known fact that Hobbit thinks he has more to lose than anybody and won’t do screening and thinks that anybody who does screen is stupid.

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4 hours ago, ilovewomen said:

It’s a well known fact that Hobbit thinks he has more to lose than anybody and won’t do screening and thinks that anybody who does screen is stupid.

There is no other way for me to try and explain this. We have all made the rounds with him  @Hobby Hobbit and he still doesn’t quite get it. I honestly think now it’s a choice not to get it. If I gather information from you (Screen) I am not gonna hurt you publicly with it or use it against you blackmail you or anything of that nature. it’s only for my safety as any other lady  who does this this line of work or something similar. My aesthetician sees men, but only if they come with a woman at least for the first time or until she  gets to know them better.  It is scary for women to be alone with a man especially if you don’t know much about them. 

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My aesthetician is touches genitals. She does waxing.  It is kind of scary not knowing if a man is going to turn on her and think it’s in a sexual experience when really, it’s just to wax the hair off of genitals. 
enough for me on this topic

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