Savoir Faire

Is it Cheating or not......

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On 10/1/2022 at 1:37 PM, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

Creating, to me, has to do with the heart. A well-known Companion (personal friend) always returns to her husband and her home as well as her children and other obligations. She is SW’re and has a great head on her shoulders! I highly doubt that she would dream of showing up unannounced to a clients or man’s home just for fun?! She talks in detail about everything to me. Naaa it’s not her! Very beautiful lady in her late 30’s! I am only sharing because this describes what a married SW’re looks like to me in a very honorable fashion. What she does is provides a service to men. Her husband is fine with it too.  She has that sort of deep understanding connection with her husband that many would dream about and @JessicaJonesing described in detail about.  

What you are describing to me is something different, possibly? Is the talk of her husband supposed to entice you? Is it an ego boost to have a married woman flirt or make advances toward you or are you reppelled by the idea? Questions only can answer! As for acting on those advancements goes? That’s up to you and that of your judgment. Are you friends with the hubby? If so I would warn her that you will indeed blow her out of the water if she comes around again, Especially unannounced, and if it is upsetting?! 
 

Why are men so caught up on such topics? Is it a secret Taboo? Is it something that blows their ego because the woman is taken? Or is it the challenge of trying to capture the untouchable heart?! Are you not just paying for the Fantasy? 
 

The O.P. wishes ... 

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2 hours ago, Imyrhklbry said:

The O.P. wishes ... 

So very true!

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On 10/1/2022 at 10:40 PM, Caressa Duval said:

@Savoir Faire Are you married? Do you have a life long partner? Answer the question, as many of us have asked before!

It may seem otherwise but, I am not stalking your posts! It's just that you consistently say the smartest ;) things and, worst yet, this in particular is how most of you sand castle princesses (and white knights) process the issue that is...

WHAT BUSINESS OF YOURS IS OUR MARITAL STATUS!?

NEWS FLASH! Nationwide, nearly half of people aged 15 and over are married meaning, nearly half, and I've seen estimates up to 90%, of YOUR CLIENTELE IShttps://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/03/07/marriage-us-states-highest-percentage-married-people/39043233/.

Is it longing? Jealousy? Regret? ANSWER THE QUESTION!

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2 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

It may seem otherwise but, I am not stalking your posts!

No.  What you are doing, or attempting to do, is outright harassment.  Not sure why no one has balls enough to call you on it or why the mods even allow you to remain.  But for clarity you are a fucking worthless piece of shit who is not nearly as clever as you think.  Half your posts are unintelligible.  And btw if someone is going to START a thread asking about what cheating is, asking if he is married would seem a 100% valid question.  Go crawl back under your fucking rock.

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On 1/8/2023 at 3:10 PM, gr8owl said:

No.  What you are doing, or attempting to do, is outright harassment.  Not sure why no one has balls enough to call you on it or why the mods even allow you to remain.  But for clarity you are a fucking worthless piece of shit who is not nearly as clever as you think.  Half your posts are unintelligible.  And btw if someone is going to START a thread asking about what cheating is, asking if he is married would seem a 100% valid question.  Go crawl back under your fucking rock.

You know I know you think me clever, right? LOL! Thanks for the compliment!

Responding to public comments, it's not harassment you see from this side of the keyboard but, since you're going to play hall monitor, take a look at this: https://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95545, Sherlock.

With no mention of it in this thread, I get the fact your damsel asked about other times that was asked went over your head, so you can pretend the idea a married hobbyist isn't some sort of gotcha in an adult forum of all places, since it's only dumb as dumber gets thanks to 100% suckers like you.

FOH

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On 1/8/2023 at 4:06 PM, Hobby Hobbit said:

Allow me to #fixitforya, oh clever one.

With no mention of it in this thread, I get the fact your damsel asked about other times that was asked of him meant, it's not just this thread went over your head. So you can pretend the idea a married hobbyist hasn't become some sort of gotcha game in an adult forum of all places, since it's only dumb as dumber gets thanks to 100% suckers like you.

FOH

 

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On 10/1/2022 at 2:36 PM, gr8owl said:

No, she is not cheating, but she is trying to.

Unless this is when you nutted in 30 seconds and all from hand on shoulder.  Then yes, she did.

Why does it matter?  If you see providers, maybe just ask her.

My policy has always been the more the merrier. However, it’s different for men, than it is for women.   Women fuck with their hearts. Men fuck with their dicks.

I realize the long time ago, and in this business, just because you see your provider does not mean you don’t love the shit out of your wife.   Most men just need variety. It’s a messed up thing called testosterone.  However, I’m also the type of woman that as long as you don’t lie about it I don’t care what you’re doing as long as you don’t knock her up.  Or give me something, I can’t get rid of. Everything is good on my end.  The truth may hurt, but a lie destroys everything.

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40 minutes ago, Elle Blake said:

Why does it matter?  If you see providers, maybe just ask her.

My policy has always been the more the merrier. However, it’s different for men, than it is for women.   Women fuck with their hearts. Men fuck with their dicks.

I realize the long time ago, and in this business, just because you see your provider does not mean you don’t love the shit out of your wife.   Most men just need variety. It’s a messed up thing called testosterone.  However, I’m also the type of woman that as long as you don’t lie about it I don’t care what you’re doing as long as you don’t knock her up.  Or give me something, I can’t get rid of. Everything is good on my end.  The truth may hurt, but a lie destroys everything.

Damn. That's wifey material right there! You know I had to give you my one Favorite, right? :wub:

Allow me to infuse the biological imperative for both, men and women. https://www.healthyway.com/content/are-women-really-more-jealous-than-men/

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3 hours ago, Elle Blake said:

Why does it matter?  

Only because it was the subject of the thread and the question the OP asked.  So I answered.  You would have to ask OP why it matters to him.

Fascinating how you seem to believe it is different for men and women and how poor guys with testosterone addled brains can't help but cheat which is of course total nonsense.  As to the rest, i agree if the SO is aware and has agreed to one's exploits it is not cheating. Or anyone else's business.  If hiding it and lying, of course it is cheating.  Still their business not mine.

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9 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Only because it was the subject of the thread and the question the OP asked.  So I answered.  You would have to ask OP why it matters to him.

Fascinating how you seem to believe it is different for men and women and how poor guys with testosterone addled brains can't help but cheat which is of course total nonsense.  As to the rest, i agree if the SO is aware and has agreed to one's exploits it is not cheating. Or anyone else's business.  If hiding it and lying, of course it is cheating.  Still their business not mine.

Addled a fantastic word, you're total nonsense and, suffering from a severe lack of cojones and testosterone, are a disgrace to manhood. Now, about that rock...https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201108/putting-the-t-in-infidelity

 

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On 10/1/2022 at 1:37 AM, Savoir Faire said:

If a married woman is aware that this particular male is single but openly stops by his house, flirts and always brings up her and the husband's sexual history? Now there has not been any sexual contact, maybe just the occasional touching of the shoulder or a small hug just to throw that out there. In your opinion, is the married woman cheating or not? 

UPDATE...................HOT OFF THE PRESS................. The woman in question could no longer deny her sexual desires/appetite any longer and 2023 she has managed to go ALL OF THE WAY. Yes, she CHEATED and she mentioned that it was something she just had to do. Over 2 years of masturbating, she could not go another day ............................. 2023 is starting off to be a GREAT YEAR..................

 

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18 minutes ago, Savoir Faire said:

UPDATE...................HOT OFF THE PRESS................. The woman in question could no longer deny her sexual desires/appetite any longer and 2023 she has managed to go ALL OF THE WAY. Yes, she CHEATED and she mentioned that it was something she just had to do. Over 2 years of masturbating, she could not go another day ............................. 2023 is starting off to be a GREAT YEAR..................

 

Lol. Unlike someone we know :rolleyes: you must be one hella specimen of mandom. If I were a chick, I'd fuck you just for the cum stain.

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1 hour ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

 you must be one hella specimen of mandom. If I were a chick, I'd fuck you just for the cum stain.

So glad you found each other, should be a wonderful love story.  

BTW fixed this for you:

I got 99 mental problems, but a brain ain't one - HH

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28 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

So glad you found each other, should be a wonderful love story.  

BTW fixed this for you:

I got 99 mental problems, but a brain ain't one - HH

There's hope for you yet!

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I have had this happen to me with four different women, between the ages of 27 and 46. In my experience, they were aligning sex with me and their husbands so they could get pregnant. I don’t think anything ‘came’ about from that, but if a woman brings up the sex life in their marriage, they are up to something. The ok’ knock her up and let the husband deal with it. 

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On 1/10/2023 at 11:28 AM, gr8owl said:

Only because it was the subject of the thread and the question the OP asked.  So I answered.  You would have to ask OP why it matters to him.

Fascinating how you seem to believe it is different for men and women and how poor guys with testosterone addled brains can't help but cheat which is of course total nonsense.  As to the rest, i agree if the SO is aware and has agreed to one's exploits it is not cheating. Or anyone else's business.  If hiding it and lying, of course it is cheating.  Still their business not mine.

I didn’t mean to personally “your response”.  

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18 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Lol. Unlike someone we know :rolleyes: you must be one hella specimen of mandom. If I were a chick, I'd fuck you just for the cum stain.

Negative Happy Feet, its a ton of FINE married women in my neighborhood and its just a matter of time when they are going to cross this NICE GUY'S PATH that ALWAYS LISTENS to them..........

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13 hours ago, Savoir Faire said:

Negative Happy Feet, its a ton of FINE married women in my neighborhood and its just a matter of time when they are going to cross this NICE GUY'S PATH that ALWAYS LISTENS to them..........

Simply because one can't go from pussy whisperer to not me, I ain't buying it, Monsieur Faire.

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14 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said:

Simply because one can't go from pussy whisperer to not me, I ain't buying it, Monsieur Faire.

LOL @ Monsieur Faire............................ Okay Happy Feet, you got me..........................I am STRAIGHT BUSTED with my hands held up high in the air...................

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I don't cheat on partners.

I invite them.

Eyes wide open. Ditto for my partner. Have the respect for me to give me option, and the courtesy to let me know where you are and with whom.

Bringing up her husband's sexual history? Non-consensual, and abusive. Where's the trust? Where's the integrity of keeping the confidences of the person that trusts you most in this world? Which is about them, not the cheater. Emotional promiscuity? Wholly abusive.

As is your knowing participation @Savoir Faire.

I encourage married men who're frustrated in low/lack-of-sex relations to see escorts -- the point is to not get attached and go home to be a better husband. Yes, it's a form of abuse, but in the face of withdrawn intimacy by one partner w/o consent of the other (relationships start hot'n'heavy, husbands don't agree to ending sexual relations) it's a conscious choice for a harm-reduction way of managing a bad situation and enabling you to stay with the partner you love.

 

@Savoir Faire is married, and cheating with a married woman is abusively disrespectful to each of your partners. Dominate "alpha" men inspire their partners into the lifestyle, negotiate a respectful "don't ask, don't tell" detente, or take the "harm reduction" path above and ACTUALLY and PERMANENTLY keep their mouths shut.

ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENTS, you do what you need to get through the day. Just saying, if you're going to be a cheater, own up to it and admit it your part in it.

 

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3 hours ago, JessicaJonesing said:

I don't cheat on partners.

I invite them.

Eyes wide open. Ditto for my partner. Have the respect for me to give me option, and the courtesy to let me know where you are and with whom.

Bringing up her husband's sexual history? Non-consensual, and abusive. Where's the trust? Where's the integrity of keeping the confidences of the person that trusts you most in this world? Which is about them, not the cheater. Emotional promiscuity? Wholly abusive.

As is your knowing participation @Savoir Faire.

I encourage married men who're frustrated in low/lack-of-sex relations to see escorts -- the point is to not get attached and go home to be a better husband. Yes, it's a form of abuse, but in the face of withdrawn intimacy by one partner w/o consent of the other (relationships start hot'n'heavy, husbands don't agree to ending sexual relations) it's a conscious choice for a harm-reduction way of managing a bad situation and enabling you to stay with the partner you love.

 

@Savoir Faire is married, and cheating with a married woman is abusively disrespectful to each of your partners. Dominate "alpha" men inspire their partners into the lifestyle, negotiate a respectful "don't ask, don't tell" detente, or take the "harm reduction" path above and ACTUALLY and PERMANENTLY keep their mouths shut.

ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENTS, you do what you need to get through the day. Just saying, if you're going to be a cheater, own up to it and admit it your part in it.

 

Thanks for your input..........................

 

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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have only had her ONCE, if she CUMS by my house again, I will definitely share the experience. The thought of being HUNTED by a married WOMAN in my HOOD is so freaking HOT to me.....................

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On 1/26/2023 at 10:59 PM, Savoir Faire said:

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have only had her ONCE, if she CUMS by my house again, I will definitely share the experience. The thought of being HUNTED by a married WOMAN in my HOOD is so freaking HOT to me.....................

I totally agree, married or single. I like it when a woman is a little aggressive. 

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14 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

I totally agree, married or single. I like it when a woman is a little aggressive. 

Mr Majors I must admit, a woman that HUNTS me is going to bring out the SAVAGE in me as well. 

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On 1/26/2023 at 6:21 PM, JessicaJonesing said:

I don't cheat on partners.

I invite them.

Eyes wide open. Ditto for my partner. Have the respect for me to give me option, and the courtesy to let me know where you are and with whom.

Bringing up her husband's sexual history? Non-consensual, and abusive. Where's the trust? Where's the integrity of keeping the confidences of the person that trusts you most in this world? Which is about them, not the cheater. Emotional promiscuity? Wholly abusive.

As is your knowing participation @Savoir Faire.

I encourage married men who're frustrated in low/lack-of-sex relations to see escorts -- the point is to not get attached and go home to be a better husband. Yes, it's a form of abuse, but in the face of withdrawn intimacy by one partner w/o consent of the other (relationships start hot'n'heavy, husbands don't agree to ending sexual relations) it's a conscious choice for a harm-reduction way of managing a bad situation and enabling you to stay with the partner you love.

 

@Savoir Faire is married, and cheating with a married woman is abusively disrespectful to each of your partners. Dominate "alpha" men inspire their partners into the lifestyle, negotiate a respectful "don't ask, don't tell" detente, or take the "harm reduction" path above and ACTUALLY and PERMANENTLY keep their mouths shut.

ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENTS, you do what you need to get through the day. Just saying, if you're going to be a cheater, own up to it and admit it your part in it.

 

I am with you Jessica if a guy is frustrated see an escort every once in a while that way you don’t get attached. My mother-in-law was having an affair with her neighbor and when he wanted to cool things Dow after a year she went over and told the wife everything. She thought he would move in with her. It didn’t work. She did this a few times. She is not a very nice lady. I personally don’t think a little flirting isn’t cheating as long as it isn’t acted upon. 

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On 1/27/2023 at 1:21 AM, JessicaJonesing said:

I don't cheat on partners.

I invite them.

Eyes wide open. Ditto for my partner. Have the respect for me to give me option, and the courtesy to let me know where you are and with whom.

Bringing up her husband's sexual history? Non-consensual, and abusive. Where's the trust? Where's the integrity of keeping the confidences of the person that trusts you most in this world? Which is about them, not the cheater. Emotional promiscuity? Wholly abusive.

As is your knowing participation @Savoir Faire.

I encourage married men who're frustrated in low/lack-of-sex relations to see escorts -- the point is to not get attached and go home to be a better husband. Yes, it's a form of abuse, but in the face of withdrawn intimacy by one partner w/o consent of the other (relationships start hot'n'heavy, husbands don't agree to ending sexual relations) it's a conscious choice for a harm-reduction way of managing a bad situation and enabling you to stay with the partner you love.

 

@Savoir Faire is married, and cheating with a married woman is abusively disrespectful to each of your partners. Dominate "alpha" men inspire their partners into the lifestyle, negotiate a respectful "don't ask, don't tell" detente, or take the "harm reduction" path above and ACTUALLY and PERMANENTLY keep their mouths shut.

ABSOLUTELY NO JUDGEMENTS, you do what you need to get through the day. Just saying, if you're going to be a cheater, own up to it and admit it your part in it.

 

I like how you think and express yourself.

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