Posted April 21, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 1:20 PM, Mustang87 said: I heard through the TOB grapevine that a certain young lady was coming to town, https://theotherboard.com/users/115812, I'd seen her traveling partner,https://theotherboard.com/users/131618 a number of times in the past and wanted to see the two together. A week ago today I reached out to Winter Kay via the email address on the site she has been using for years. She responded quickly and we scheduled an appointment for the 3 of us for this morning. She mentioned to me, as it says on her site, that she offers a discount if you pay ahead of time. "With me traveling and blocking off that amount of time just for you , I am sure you understand this requirement." Because of her great reputation, and because I had seen her partner in the past, I went ahead and prepaid. She thanked me for making the payment, we finalized the appointment and we went ahead chatting via that email until Friday. Yesterday I emailed to confirm the appointment, I got a message back many hours later that they were traveling and were dealing with a lot of craziness due to winter storms. I've not heard anything since and the appointment time has come and gone. She has my email and my cell number. Her website says she is currently in Colorado Springs, heading to Denver later this week. I've been holding out hope that maybe they did get delayed and she will reach out to me with a perfectly plausible explanation, but that is starting to seen awfully unlikely. Just found out that both of their hobby numbers have been disconnectd. I'm also open to the possibility that someone has hacked her email and that Winter has no knowledge of this, but I've reached out to both via TOB today and have not gotten a response from either. If anyone is considering booking with these two, I suggest you proceed with caution, because I'm pretty sure I just got scammed. My suggestion is also to corroborate the narrative that you were provided when she did respond, which was, "while traveling they had run into delays due to winter storms". If she is a provider with positive reviews and/or an established reputation on the site, managing to continue a open thread of conversation. Maintaining, good rapport within the community. I, am from Southern California, so when moving to Colorado a few years ago I had learne that there are late winter storms around the end of the winter solstice beginning of spring. Hopefully, she and her travel partner return in good health and cheer and you are able to reschedule with a better means of communication in the future. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Calisurfgirl said: My suggestion is also to corroborate the narrative that you were provided when she did respond, which was, "while traveling they had run into delays due to winter storms". If she is a provider with positive reviews and/or an established reputation on the site, managing to continue a open thread of conversation. Maintaining, good rapport within the community. I, am from Southern California, so when moving to Colorado a few years ago I had learne that there are late winter storms around the end of the winter solstice beginning of spring. Hopefully, she and her travel partner return in good health and cheer and you are able to reschedule with a better means of communication in the future. Yes, but that's not what happened. Means of communication was not the problem. I did corroborate the narrative... I did not make this post lightly. I confirmed that it was a scam and that I had been had. At least one other member of this community fell for it, and probably others, both locally and around the country. They had been working a number of other cities. I tracked them for a while, and reached out to the sites they had been posting on. I've not seen anything from them in a while. But, like I mentioned, I don't know if it was these two ladies doing it or not, but it was someone who had access to their email and their web site. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Mustang87 said: Yes, but that's not what happened. Means of communication was not the problem. I did corroborate the narrative... I did not make this post lightly. I confirmed that it was a scam and that I had been had. At least one other member of this community fell for it, and probably others, both locally and around the country. They had been working a number of other cities. I tracked them for a while, and reached out to the sites they had been posting on. I've not seen anything from them in a while. But, like I mentioned, I don't know if it was these two ladies doing it or not, but it was someone who had access to their email and their web site. Again I'm very sorry this happened to you Mustang. Is it okay to ask what your gut tells you about what happened? Do you think it was the actual girls, or do you think it was a spoofing situation? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Mustang87 said: ...I don't know if it was these two ladies doing it or not, but it was someone who had access to their email and their web site. 15 hours ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Again I'm very sorry this happened to you Mustang. Is it okay to ask what your gut tells you about what happened? Do you think it was the actual girls, or do you think it was a spoofing situation? Oh, for Pete's Gate, not a nun in sight. He "thinks", and it appears, he was scammed! Surely pinged for the review, she hasn't been around to defend herself so, she either went over the Earth's edge, which we sure hope not but, with an active profile and current tour schedule that places her back here in a week, we can get a discount for prepaying!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Hobby Hobbit said: Oh, for Pete's Gate, not a nun in sight. He "thinks", and it appears, he was scammed! Surely pinged for the review, she hasn't been around to defend herself so, she either went over the Earth's edge, which we sure hope not but, with an active profile and current tour schedule that places her back here in a week, we can get a discount for prepaying!! The client's white knight is back!!! 😂😂😂 Now I personally don't mind a white knight, but for all the fussing when there's a white knight for providers, I think it's hilarious when you do it for the clients. I'm sure they are grateful for you. Quoting and asking @Mustang87 what his thoughts are about the scam, either spoofing or the actual ladies I know he's capable of responding if he chooses to. Or you can for him. Lol. If he doesn't, that's cool too. I rarely check reviews or listings, and don't follow everyone's story. Just curious on his thoughts. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/21/2022 at 3:47 PM, Hunter VanDyke said: Again I'm very sorry this happened to you Mustang. Is it okay to ask what your gut tells you about what happened? Do you think it was the actual girls, or do you think it was a spoofing situation? Sorry it took so long to respond to your question. Obviously I don't know for sure what really was/is going on, but I do have a gut feeling. There's no way at least one of these two ladies aren't involved in this long-term scam. It's either them doing it or they've given a lot of information, both contact info and personal info, to someone else. There was a comment in one of the emails from Winter that seemed to reference a conversation I had with Kat the first time I saw her. Like whoever I was emailing with had access to notes about me. I got a lot of offline feedback from ladies in our hobby and one told me that she had heard, just ancedotally of course, of ladies who are leaving the business running a scam like this against old clients who would trust her. Don't know if that is true at all, but it does feel that that is what happened here. I guess my advise before sending money to a lady, is not to just varify that she is legit, but also to confirm that it is actually her you are talking to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Mustang87 said: Sorry it took so long to respond to your question. Obviously I don't know for sure what really was/is going on, but I do have a gut feeling. There's no way at least one of these two ladies aren't involved in this long-term scam. It's either them doing it or they've given a lot of information, both contact info and personal info, to someone else. There was a comment in one of the emails from Winter that seemed to reference a conversation I had with Kat the first time I saw her. Like whoever I was emailing with had access to notes about me. I got a lot of offline feedback from ladies in our hobby and one told me that she had heard, just ancedotally of course, of ladies who are leaving the business running a scam like this against old clients who would trust her. Don't know if that is true at all, but it does feel that that is what happened here. I guess my advise before sending money to a lady, is not to just varify that she is legit, but also to confirm that it is actually her you are talking to. It's unfortunate and really sad, the thought of taking advantage of people, stealing from people. Especially truly wonderful people like yourself. That's good advice to verify. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and letting clients know to take extra precautions, and not to fall into the same scam. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 7:39 AM, Hobby Hobbit said: Oh, for Pete's Gate, not a nun in sight. He "thinks", and it appears, he was scammed! Surely pinged for the review, she hasn't been around to defend herself so, she either went over the Earth's edge, which we sure hope not but, with an active profile and current tour schedule that places her back here in a week, we can get a discount for prepaying!! It's true that they are still running the scam and working it hard. Rates have increased so I'm guessing they are making out pretty well. Not sure what can be done to put a stop to something like this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 1:20 PM, Mustang87 said: She mentioned to me, as it says on her site, that she offers a discount if you pay ahead of time. "With me traveling and blocking off that amount of time just for you , I am sure you understand this requirement." I've never paid a deposit or in advance in my life Your Spidey sense should have tingled 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2022 What made this one tough is the fact that Winter Kay, while not local, was a frequent visitor with a truckload of very positive reviews, making a deposit request seem safer. She either went rogue on us or had her site hacked. I notice we haven't seen or heard from her for quite a while. If she was hacked you would think she would be scrambling to repair the damage to her brand/reputation... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 27, 2022 4 hours ago, sb1212 said: What made this one tough is the fact that Winter Kay, while not local, was a frequent visitor with a truckload of very positive reviews, making a deposit request seem safer. She either went rogue on us or had her site hacked. I notice we haven't seen or heard from her for quite a while. If she was hacked you would think she would be scrambling to repair the damage to her brand/reputation... A lot of providers when they retire they don't look back, so unless someone knows her IRL, and knows her RL contact info, and talked to her, she wouldn't necessarily know what's going on. I do know phone numbers can be spoofed because several local providers were targeted a couple years ago. I was totally surprised to learn what someone can do with your number. The spoofer was texting from the providers phone number. They had access to their contacts too. It was all really bizarre and meant to cause chaos, not to steal, but it was fucked up none the less. So it can happen. I don't know about the email thing or website thing, so I can't speak to what's really going on. It's a horrible situation regardless, and I'm glad the community is looking out for each by staying informed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) On 1/18/2022 at 1:20 PM, Mustang87 said: I heard through the TOB grapevine that a certain young lady was coming to town, https://theotherboard.com/users/115812, I'd seen her traveling partner,https://theotherboard.com/users/131618 a number of times in the past and wanted to see the two together. A week ago today I reached out to Winter Kay via the email address on the site she has been using for years. She responded quickly and we scheduled an appointment for the 3 of us for this morning. She mentioned to me, as it says on her site, that she offers a discount if you pay ahead of time. "With me traveling and blocking off that amount of time just for you , I am sure you understand this requirement." Because of her great reputation, and because I had seen her partner in the past, I went ahead and prepaid. She thanked me for making the payment, we finalized the appointment and we went ahead chatting via that email until Friday. Yesterday I emailed to confirm the appointment, I got a message back many hours later that they were traveling and were dealing with a lot of craziness due to winter storms. I've not heard anything since and the appointment time has come and gone. She has my email and my cell number. Her website says she is currently in Colorado Springs, heading to Denver later this week. I've been holding out hope that maybe they did get delayed and she will reach out to me with a perfectly plausible explanation, but that is starting to seen awfully unlikely. Just found out that both of their hobby numbers have been disconnectd. I'm also open to the possibility that someone has hacked her email and that Winter has no knowledge of this, but I've reached out to both via TOB today and have not gotten a response from either. If anyone is considering booking with these two, I suggest you proceed with caution, because I'm pretty sure I just got scammed. She just pulled the same scam on me today!! "Great reviews & reputation" , sold on the prepay threesome pitch. Showed up at scheduled place & time .... NOTHING!! Tried reaching out to no avail! ALL BEWARE OF WINTER KAY AND WHOEVER SHE'S TRAVELING WITH!! 🤬🤬 Not sure if she's been hacked or just had a major change in attitude? But guess what Winter ... Karma's a bitch! Also froze the method of payment and am getting my funds reimbursed! Edited April 28, 2022 by Imyrhklbry 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 10:15 PM, Hunter VanDyke said: It's unfortunate and really sad, the thought of taking advantage of people, stealing from people. Especially truly wonderful people like yourself. That's good advice to verify. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and letting clients know to take extra precautions, and not to fall into the same scam. I just posted almost scenario as Mustang87! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Imyrhklbry said: I just posted almost scenario as Mustang87! Same ladies? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Same ladies? Appeared to be ! On 1/18/2022 at 1:20 PM, Mustang87 said: I heard through the TOB grapevine that a certain young lady was coming to town, https://theotherboard.com/users/115812, I'd seen her traveling partner,https://theotherboard.com/users/131618 a number of times in the past and wanted to see the two together. A week ago today I reached out to Winter Kay via the email address on the site she has been using for years. She responded quickly and we scheduled an appointment for the 3 of us for this morning. She mentioned to me, as it says on her site, that she offers a discount if you pay ahead of time. "With me traveling and blocking off that amount of time just for you , I am sure you understand this requirement." Because of her great reputation, and because I had seen her partner in the past, I went ahead and prepaid. She thanked me for making the payment, we finalized the appointment and we went ahead chatting via that email until Friday. Yesterday I emailed to confirm the appointment, I got a message back many hours later that they were traveling and were dealing with a lot of craziness due to winter storms. I've not heard anything since and the appointment time has come and gone. She has my email and my cell number. Her website says she is currently in Colorado Springs, heading to Denver later this week. I've been holding out hope that maybe they did get delayed and she will reach out to me with a perfectly plausible explanation, but that is starting to seen awfully unlikely. Just found out that both of their hobby numbers have been disconnectd. I'm also open to the possibility that someone has hacked her email and that Winter has no knowledge of this, but I've reached out to both via TOB today and have not gotten a response from either. If anyone is considering booking with these two, I suggest you proceed with caution, because I'm pretty sure I just got scammed. She just pulled the same scam on me today!! "Great reviews & reputation" , sold on the prepay threescore pitch. Showed up at scheduled place & time .... NOTHING!! Tried reaching out to no avail! ALL BEWARE OF WINTER KAY AND WHOEVER SHE'S TRAVELING WITH!! 🤬🤬 Not sure if she's been hacked or just had a major change in attitude? But guess what Winter ... Karma's a bitch! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Same ladies? Also if you go to her website .. says she's here in Denver currently... so if NOT her, then someone who has access to her information! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 I don't see an ad for her here on TOB. Is that normal if she's in town and working? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Hunter VanDyke said: I don't see an ad for her here on TOB. Is that normal if she's in town and working? She has her other website WinterKay.escortbook.com . Looks legitimate? Shows city tours and all ... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 3:54 PM, Mustang87 said: It was slick I tell you. Part of me can't believe I fell for it, but when I reread the conversation, I know exactly why I fell for it. When I heard Kay was coming to the Springs I looked up her site to get more info, the same site I've looked at many times over the years. The site had her coming to the Springs early this week and then Denver. Kat's site has a similar, updated calendar. I wrote to her at the email address on the site. She wrote back fairly quickly and the conversation flowed very naturally. She even mentioned a few things Kat told her to say to me. I never questioned any of it. When the idea of paying ahead of time came up to get the discounted rate, I never blinked. That's when I decided to bood the double. She didn't push it, just mentioned the option. No attempt to upsell. Then after I paid, the conversation went on for 3 more days. Joking, flirting, really had me looking forward to it. Even when I couldn't get a confirmation the night before, I still expected to wake up and see a message with directions on where to meet. Right up until the time of the appointment I held out hope. Was probably a pretty pitiful site, sitting there refreshing email and looking at the phone every 30 seconds. Then, and only then did I do the research I should have done earlier and it became pretty obvious what had happened. Oh well, live and learn I guess. I fell for the same EXACT SCAM!! Fortunately I've already frozen the prepaid method and contacted original way I purchased prepaid method and one way or another I'm getting my deposit refunded! I believed all their bullshit too ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Imyrhklbry said: She has her other website WinterKay.escortbook.com . Looks legitimate? Shows city tours and all ... Yeah I used to use escortbook for my website, but I still had to advertise here, and elsewhere. She doesn't have an ad up here on TOB. Which I thought was odd, but maybe that's not odd to those who've seen her. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Hunter VanDyke said: Yeah I used to use escortbook for my website, but I still had to advertise here, and elsewhere. She doesn't have an ad up here on TOB. Which I thought was odd, but maybe that's not odd to those who've seen her. I've noticed several reputable providers have vanished from TOB ( for personal reasons), and turned up on other sites or just gone utr. Luckily I've kept in touch with a few of my ATF'S and still see a few of them, who are no longer on TOB ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Imyrhklbry said: I've noticed several reputable providers have vanished from TOB ( for personal reasons), and turned up on other sites or just gone utr. Luckily I've kept in touch with a few of my ATF'S and still see a few of them, who are no longer on TOB ... I'm sorry you got scammed too babe. I do hope you're able to get your money back. I hate seeing so many people getting ripped off lately. We should always be taking all the precautions, but taking extra precautions right now, both clients and providers seems wise. I hope more people check the boards for these alerts. Especially before giving a deposit, or giving the benefit of the doubt to a client. CYA. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: I'm sorry you got scammed too babe. I do hope you're able to get your money back. I hate seeing so many people getting ripped off lately. We should always be taking all the precautions, but taking extra precautions right now, both clients and providers seems wise. I hope more people check the boards for these alerts. Especially before giving a deposit, or giving the benefit of the doubt to a client. CYA. Only dealing with face to face , cash up front! You're absolutely correct ! Lots of legitimate ladies who are than happy to keep everything honest & reputable! Actually found one a few hours later in very close proximity and am seeing her again tomorrow! 🥰👅🥰 13 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Yeah I used to use escortbook for my website, but I still had to advertise here, and elsewhere. She doesn't have an ad up here on TOB. Which I thought was odd, but maybe that's not odd to those who've seen her. I've noticed several reputable providers have vanished from TOB ( for personal reasons), and turned up on other sites or just gone utr. Luckily I've kept in touch with a few of my ATF'S and still see a few of them, who are no longer on TOB ... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: I don't see an ad for her here on TOB. Is that normal if she's in town and working? Looking at stats page's Kat Vega---> https://theotherboard.com/forum/index.php?/profile/31707-kat-vega/ Last visited January 29, 2021. winter kay ---> https://theotherboard.com/forum/index.php?/profile/16460-winter-kay/ Last visited September 24, 2021 Kat was active on the LVFever website then TOB. Been waiting for a response from either of them. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 It might be a good idea to request a quick tob pm for verification from the ladies who travel here that are verified members here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Imyrhklbry said: Only dealing with face to face , cash up Yes we all should do whatever we need to do to feel comfortable meeting each other. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 28, 2022 I hired a YL for a massage once, and she didn't believe it was me, so she asked me to PM her from this site. Lol Smart! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kaduk said: Looking at stats page's Kat Vega---> https://theotherboard.com/forum/index.php?/profile/31707-kat-vega/ Last visited January 29, 2021. winter kay ---> https://theotherboard.com/forum/index.php?/profile/16460-winter-kay/ Last visited September 24, 2021 Kat was active on the LVFever website then TOB. Been waiting for a response from either of them. Don't mean anything... a lot of ladies have left TOB for one reason or another. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: I hired a YL for a massage once, and she didn't believe it was me, so she asked me to PM her from this site. Lol Smart! The first time I got that request was from a provider that randomly DM’d me here asking for a response. I was confused so replied. Turns out someone tried to use my handle to setup and she was verifying the legitimacy by go directly through TOB. I honestly never thought how easy it would be to pretend to be someone else until that very moment. So uh…how was the massage? Did you write a review? 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said: The first time I got that request was from a provider that randomly DM’d me here asking for a response. I was confused so replied. Turns out someone tried to use my handle to setup and she was verifying the legitimacy by go directly through TOB. I honestly never thought how easy it would be to pretend to be someone else until that very moment. So uh…how was the massage? Did you write a review? 😉 Yes! We have to use all our tools! This industry can be nuts. She was great. Deep tissue massage. No happy ending, but she let me get naked! 🤣 She wasn't into girls, but what I really needed was someone to get rid of the knots and she came recommended. Edited April 29, 2022 by Hunter VanDyke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
