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2 hours ago, MrBigShot said:

I always assumed "No AA" was a ruse anyway. I'll really be worried when I see ads that are more specific, i.e., " No short, fat, balding Irishmen with tiny dicks". That'll eliminate guys like me from the hobby altogether. I may have to take up tennis when I see that ad show up.

How do you figure it's a ruse? Or who do you think they're trying to deceive? 

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37 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

How do you figure it's a ruse? Or who do you think they're trying to deceive? 

It's just my observation and not meant as a conspiracy theory. My main point wasn't meant to decipher word meaning, rather to poke fun at myself with a humorous "what if..." scenario, i.e. "...no short, fat, ... Irishmen, etc."

Obviously, I'm the only one who finds it humorous.

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23 minutes ago, MrBigShot said:

It's just my observation and not meant as a conspiracy theory. My main point wasn't meant to decipher word meaning, rather to poke fun at myself with a humorous "what if..." scenario, i.e. "...no short, fat, ... Irishmen, etc."

Obviously, I'm the only one who finds it humorous.

LOL! I get it now. Thanks for the clarification. The tone of this board and thread in particular can have a certain seriousness so I wasn't sure. 

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13 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

People who are racist are taught to hate. There is only one race, Daytona. I would like to point out that the man who sprained my ankle few years ago was a white man and not black man. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFad4-z8dfw

I fixed it for you. :D

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13 minutes ago, boink36 said:

I fixed it for you. :D

Your killing me big hugs!! :P

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I hardly post on this forum anymore for various reasons, I've adopted a more voyeuristic standpoint. But I feel like i do have something to contribute and share on this topic. I recently had the opportunity to speak with a provider who often posted "No AA" in her ads. She is an Ebony provider by the way.

She explained to me why "No AA" in the ads. To quote her correctly "It's not for the reasons that you think" She said that it had nothing to do with safety or racism. It's purely about money.

1.) Backpage and craigslist is now almost dominated by "Criminal Ripoff Crews" out to make money. They are very dangerous people. Have you noticed how most of the local talent have vanished from backpage?

2.) She advised me to never pay for an hour or multiple hours, you will never get the time you pay for. The visit is purposely set up for quick in and out. Quick money, lousy service or sometimes no service at all.  It does'nt matter how much time you pay for, they are instructed to rush you in and out in 30 minutes or preferably less. Pimps banging on the door. Pretending to be hotel security or undercover cops. That's the problem with African Americans, they pay for an hour, they expect an hour. She said that "they like to take their time" and get very upset when they feel like they are not getting their money's worth. Many times they would make a scene, attracting unwanted attention from legitimate hotel guests. Some have actually tipped off the hotel front desk or LE as an act of revenge. Some have actually gotten violent. They found out that trying to ripoff brothers ain't no joke. She said white boys are different, because they are easy.  When they get ripped off, they just leave and don't make a scene. They don't want any trouble and are often too afraid that their wives, or families might find out. They're easy targets she said. Some ads will say No AA under 40. That just means that some crews feel older AA men wont make a scene after getting ripped off either and just leave quietly. Because like she said "who are they going to tell?"

So there I hope that helps.

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

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2 hours ago, amahumanbean said:

I hardly post on this forum anymore for various reasons, I've adopted a more voyeuristic standpoint. But I feel like i do have something to contribute and share on this topic. I recently had the opportunity to speak with a provider who often posted "No AA" in her ads. She is an Ebony provider by the way.

She explained to me why "No AA" in the ads. To quote her correctly "It's not for the reasons that you think" She said that it had nothing to do with safety or racism. It's purely about money.

1.) Backpage and craigslist is now almost dominated by "Criminal Ripoff Crews" out to make money. They are very dangerous people. Have you noticed how most of the local talent have vanished from backpage?

2.) She advised me to never pay for an hour or multiple hours, you will never get the time you pay for. The visit is purposely set up for quick in and out. Quick money, lousy service or sometimes no service at all.  It does'nt matter how much time you pay for, they are instructed to rush you in and out in 30 minutes or preferably less. Pimps banging on the door. Pretending to be hotel security or undercover cops. That's the problem with African Americans, they pay for an hour, they expect an hour. She said that "they like to take their time" and get very upset when they feel like they are not getting their money's worth. Many times they would make a scene, attracting unwanted attention from legitimate hotel guests. Some have actually tipped off the hotel front desk or LE as an act of revenge. Some have actually gotten violent. They found out that trying to ripoff brothers ain't no joke. She said white boys are different, because they are easy.  When they get ripped off, they just leave and don't make a scene. They don't want any trouble and are often too afraid that their wives, or families might find out. They're easy targets she said. Some ads will say No AA under 40. That just means that some crews feel older AA men wont make a scene after getting ripped off either and just leave quietly. Because like she said "who are they going to tell?"

So there I hope that helps.

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

Well that's quite an interesting theory. 

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4 minutes ago, lakerboy24 said:

Well that's quite an interesting theory. 

Definitely food for thought.  

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4 hours ago, amahumanbean said:

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

Jeez, this theory is so full of holes it should be the "swiss cheese" theory. There are plenty of well reviewed providers who use that phrase in ads. I'd say that proves the theory totally invalid. 

In case anybody cares, I don't see ladies who state "no AA" in their ads. It just rubs me the wrong way.

 

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5 hours ago, amahumanbean said:

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

I'm sure your story accurately reflects the opinion of an escort. Beyond that, it's ho-hum.   It's a nice story, but not and explanation.  

 

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That's exactly why I don't post here. Too many ex-spirts

Hey guys, how I got it? that's how I'm stating it.

You could be in denial all you want. I'm just trying to shed some light.

I got it from an insider.

FYI- Notice I said "almost dominated". I'm can't speak in absolutes. Therefore, quite possibly they aren't all like that. But quite a few.

Buyer Beware.

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18 hours ago, amahumanbean said:

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

Is the moral of your story actually that if providers see AA clients they will get ripped off? And the only way to prevent them from being ripped off is to specify in their ads they won't see AA clients?

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22 minutes ago, MrBigShot said:

Is the moral of your story actually that if providers see AA clients they will get ripped off? And the only way to prevent them from being ripped off is to specify in their ads they won't see AA clients?

??? That's not what I'm saying at all. Actually on the contrary. What I'm saying is The rip off crews look for easy targets. It seems like they have found that white guys and guys over a certain age are less likely to make a scene when they unknowingly pay for rushed, lousy service or at times no service at all. However, the African American guys are more likely to make trouble or drama when they feel like they are not getting their money's worth. Hence "No AA" ads. Simple. It's a    hustle. Seems like African Americans just want more "bang" for their buck. No pun intended. Rip off crews are there solely to make as much money as quickly as possible.  Customer service is not even a consideration. That's why it's always best to stick with reviewed ladies.

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19 hours ago, amahumanbean said:

I hardly post on this forum anymore for various reasons, I've adopted a more voyeuristic standpoint. But I feel like i do have something to contribute and share on this topic. I recently had the opportunity to speak with a provider who often posted "No AA" in her ads. She is an Ebony provider by the way.

She explained to me why "No AA" in the ads. To quote her correctly "It's not for the reasons that you think" She said that it had nothing to do with safety or racism. It's purely about money.

1.) Backpage and craigslist is now almost dominated by "Criminal Ripoff Crews" out to make money. They are very dangerous people. Have you noticed how most of the local talent have vanished from backpage?

2.) She advised me to never pay for an hour or multiple hours, you will never get the time you pay for. The visit is purposely set up for quick in and out. Quick money, lousy service or sometimes no service at all.  It does'nt matter how much time you pay for, they are instructed to rush you in and out in 30 minutes or preferably less. Pimps banging on the door. Pretending to be hotel security or undercover cops. That's the problem with African Americans, they pay for an hour, they expect an hour. She said that "they like to take their time" and get very upset when they feel like they are not getting their money's worth. Many times they would make a scene, attracting unwanted attention from legitimate hotel guests. Some have actually tipped off the hotel front desk or LE as an act of revenge. Some have actually gotten violent. They found out that trying to ripoff brothers ain't no joke. She said white boys are different, because they are easy.  When they get ripped off, they just leave and don't make a scene. They don't want any trouble and are often too afraid that their wives, or families might find out. They're easy targets she said. Some ads will say No AA under 40. That just means that some crews feel older AA men wont make a scene after getting ripped off either and just leave quietly. Because like she said "who are they going to tell?"

So there I hope that helps.

Moral of the story? When now when you see "NO AA" ads, don't get upset. That's code for "You about to get ripped off" stay clear no matter what race you are.

Being as I try to be a relatively reasonable and non confrontational poster, I will try to be as diplomatic as possible in my basic description of this hypothesis. I think it is complete and utter preposterous bullshit. Providers are people first, women second, providers somewhere later. As people, and women, they have likes and dislikes same as clients. If an ebony provider, a BBW provider, a 50+ year old provider, a transgender provider happen to have less business than some other provider, should clients not seeing them be chastised and labeled, racists, homophobes, age and weight biased? How DARE they have a preference. Now, the red highlighted part of the OP's post makes some sense and related to what SEVERAL providers have told ME. Many AA men, particulary under 30, and especially if cruising here, have sky high sex drives. Many of them are well endowed and very athletic.....including often college athletes and sometimes Nuggets, Bronco's and Rockies. Hard, fast, athletic, multi-shot, for every second of an hour...or two...or more may SOUND like a dream appointment to guys with an ego based view....."Oh..she should love that".  Some ladies might, most DON'T. Again...this is a business. Sessions like that are exhausting, hard work. Of course, all that is on top of other possible reasons and preferences. Now, it would be very uncomfortable, awkward, business touchy\risky for ladies to post what I just did on here.....expecially knowing they would then be interrogated to elaborate and argue every point and possible exception......told to not just post no ""AA" but see screened guys through  P411 and references via Pm and...yada yada blah blah blab blab." Well I don't have those issues so I'm posting it. What it is NOT is "no AA" is a rip-off crew, OR a racist. If you think it is, then my advice to you......even my DEMAND of you, is that you pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and call the provider of your LEAST FAVORITE age, race, look, weight, service options, dress, and book them now. After all, what a PERSON wants and prefers has no place here....its all about whats "fair". 

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6 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

Being as I try to be a relatively reasonable and non confrontational poster, I will try to be as diplomatic as possible in my basic description of this hypothesis. I think it is complete and utter preposterous bullshit. Providers are people first, women second, providers somewhere later. As people, and women, they have likes and dislikes same as clients. If an ebony provider, a BBW provider, a 50+ year old provider, a transgender provider happen to have less business than some other provider, should clients not seeing them be chastised and labeled, racists, homophobes, age and weight biased? How DARE they have a preference. Now, the red highlighted part of the OP's post makes some sense and related to what SEVERAL providers have told ME. Many AA men, particulary under 30, and especially if cruising here, have sky high sex drives. Many of them are well endowed and very athletic.....including often college athletes and sometimes Nuggets, Bronco's and Rockies. Hard, fast, athletic, multi-shot, for every second of an hour...or two...or more may SOUND like a dream appointment to guys with an ego based view....."Oh..she should love that".  Some ladies might, most DON'T. Again...this is a business. Sessions like that are exhausting, hard work. Of course, all that is on top of other possible reasons and preferences. Now, it would be very uncomfortable, awkward, business touchy\risky for ladies to post what I just did on here.....expecially knowing they would then be interrogated to elaborate and argue every point and possible exception......told to not just post no ""AA" but see screened guys through  P411 and references via Pm and...yada yada blah blah blab blab." Well I don't have those issues so I'm posting it. What it is NOT is "no AA" is a rip-off crew, OR a racist. If you think it is, then my advice to you......even my DEMAND of you, is that you pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and call the provider of your LEAST FAVORITE age, race, look, weight, service options, dress, and book them now. After all, what a PERSON wants and prefers has no place here....its all about whats "fair". 

Translation...Non-AA clients are flabby, have low sex drive, aren't well endowed and don't make providers work too hard to earn their money goal for the day.

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Also find it interesting that there are no Non AA professional athletes in Colorado on the Broncos, Rockies, Nuggets and Avalanche. And that the attributes of Non-AA professional athletes are different than of AA professional athletes as far as endowment, sex drive, muscular definition, etc

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18 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

Being as I try to be a relatively reasonable and non confrontational poster, I will try to be as diplomatic as possible in my basic description of this hypothesis. I think it is complete and utter preposterous bullshit. Providers are people first, women second, providers somewhere later. As people, and women, they have likes and dislikes same as clients. If an ebony provider, a BBW provider, a 50+ year old provider, a transgender provider happen to have less business than some other provider, should clients not seeing them be chastised and labeled, racists, homophobes, age and weight biased? How DARE they have a preference. Now, the red highlighted part of the OP's post makes some sense and related to what SEVERAL providers have told ME. Many AA men, particulary under 30, and especially if cruising here, have sky high sex drives. Many of them are well endowed and very athletic.....including often college athletes and sometimes Nuggets, Bronco's and Rockies. Hard, fast, athletic, multi-shot, for every second of an hour...or two...or more may SOUND like a dream appointment to guys with an ego based view....."Oh..she should love that".  Some ladies might, most DON'T. Again...this is a business. Sessions like that are exhausting, hard work. Of course, all that is on top of other possible reasons and preferences. Now, it would be very uncomfortable, awkward, business touchy\risky for ladies to post what I just did on here.....expecially knowing they would then be interrogated to elaborate and argue every point and possible exception......told to not just post no ""AA" but see screened guys through  P411 and references via Pm and...yada yada blah blah blab blab." Well I don't have those issues so I'm posting it. What it is NOT is "no AA" is a rip-off crew, OR a racist. If you think it is, then my advice to you......even my DEMAND of you, is that you pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and call the provider of your LEAST FAVORITE age, race, look, weight, service options, dress, and book them now. After all, what a PERSON wants and prefers has no place here....its all about whats "fair". 

I think the post by ahumanbean is being scrutinized and torn down for no reason. He was simply stating what 1 provider told him was the reason why she post "No AA" I think those reason are her own and I'll be willing to bet every provider who posts those restrictions will have some slightly different reasons. 

I know this much, whatever the reasons are her own and I really don't give a damn. It is her body and it doesn't come down to fairness as far as I'm concerned. It is what ever she feels comfortable with, end of story!!! For those who think is is racist blah blah blah should come down off of their soapbox and worry about yourself and not how who they choose to share time with.

 

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44 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

Being as I try to be a relatively reasonable and non confrontational poster, I will try to be as diplomatic as possible in my basic description of this hypothesis. I think it is complete and utter preposterous bullshit. Providers are people first, women second, providers somewhere later. As people, and women, they have likes and dislikes same as clients. If an ebony provider, a BBW provider, a 50+ year old provider, a transgender provider happen to have less business than some other provider, should clients not seeing them be chastised and labeled, racists, homophobes, age and weight biased? How DARE they have a preference. Now, the red highlighted part of the OP's post makes some sense and related to what SEVERAL providers have told ME. Many AA men, particulary under 30, and especially if cruising here, have sky high sex drives. Many of them are well endowed and very athletic.....including often college athletes and sometimes Nuggets, Bronco's and Rockies. Hard, fast, athletic, multi-shot, for every second of an hour...or two...or more may SOUND like a dream appointment to guys with an ego based view....."Oh..she should love that".  Some ladies might, most DON'T. Again...this is a business. Sessions like that are exhausting, hard work. Of course, all that is on top of other possible reasons and preferences. Now, it would be very uncomfortable, awkward, business touchy\risky for ladies to post what I just did on here.....expecially knowing they would then be interrogated to elaborate and argue every point and possible exception......told to not just post no ""AA" but see screened guys through  P411 and references via Pm and...yada yada blah blah blab blab." Well I don't have those issues so I'm posting it. What it is NOT is "no AA" is a rip-off crew, OR a racist. If you think it is, then my advice to you......even my DEMAND of you, is that you pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and call the provider of your LEAST FAVORITE age, race, look, weight, service options, dress, and book them now. After all, what a PERSON wants and prefers has no place here....its all about whats "fair". 

Like I said in my original comment. I am merely repeating what was told to me.

Once again " Most No AA ads, has nothing to do with safety or racism"

It's money hustle. It has to do with making quick cash, as quietly as possible.

Why is everyone so stuck on the racism Bull? It's a mind fuck.

She clearly said "It's not what everybody thinks" And you know what? I believe her.

Get off the limited racist thinking for a bit.

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22 minutes ago, H2Opieluver said:

I think the post by ahumanbean is being scrutinized and torn down for no reason. He was simply stating what 1 provider told him was the reason why she post "No AA" I think those reason are her own and I'll be willing to bet every provider who posts those restrictions will have some slightly different reasons...

Agree with this statement, AHB was a messenger, not who said the message.  Make no mistake, some ladies do post No AA simply b/c they are racist even in liberal Colorado.  Some post because it's a preference, they are managed and many other reasons.  Good.  If I had a nickel for every No AA lady that has reached out to me and said they'd see me (but not my brethren) or I've seen, I'd be a hundredaire by now! 

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7 minutes ago, amahumanbean said:

Like I said in my original comment. I am merely repeating what was told to me.

Once again " Most No AA ads, has nothing to do with safety or racism"

It's money hustle. It has to do with making quick cash, as quietly as possible.

Why is everyone so stuck on the racism Bull? It's a mind fuck.

She clearly said "It's not what everybody thinks" And you know what? I believe her.

Get off the limited racist thinking for a bit.

First of all, I said the hypothesis was bullshit...not YOU ...not the lady you spoke with. Indeed, you would have a hard time pointing out insults in my post leveled at you....unless you arbitrarily take a chunk out and decided to "translate it" into meaning something else. As for the "racist thinking" that I red outlined....let's try to remember the TOPIC of this thread. Getting off the concept of race in a thread about ladies posting "no AA" would be quite a trick!  However, I will say, it reads to me like YOU do not feel attacked by my post, although others seem "attacked on your behalf."

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4 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

First of all, I said the hypothesis was bullshit...not YOU ...not the lady you spoke with. Indeed, you would have a hard time pointing out insults in my post leveled at you....unless you arbitrarily take a chunk out and decided to "translate it" into meaning something else. As for the "racist thinking" that I red outlined....let's try to remember the TOPIC of this thread. Getting off the concept of race in a thread about ladies posting "no AA" would be quite a trick!  However, I will say, it reads to me like YOU do not feel attacked by my post, although others seem "attacked on your behalf."

Oh, I see. I simply took you out of context.

 

1 hour ago, Admiral C said:

Many AA men, particulary under 30, and especially if cruising here, have sky high sex drives. Many of them are well endowed and very athletic.....including often college athletes and sometimes Nuggets, Bronco's and Rockies. Hard, fast, athletic, multi-shot, for every second of an hour...or two...or more may SOUND like a dream appointment to guys with an ego based view

 

1 hour ago, MrBigShot said:

Translation...Non-AA clients are flabby, have low sex drive, aren't well endowed and don't make providers work too hard to earn their money goal for the day.

 

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59 minutes ago, MrBigShot said:

Translation...Non-AA clients are flabby, have low sex drive, aren't well endowed and don't make providers work too hard to earn their money goal for the day.

You sir are generally an intelligent and non confrontational poster as well. Certainly you are too intelligent to "translate" what someone said to a newmeaning which clearly YOU KNOW is the old "strawman argument". There won't be much point in anyone discussing anything on these boards if everyone decides to argue and post "translations" of what people said as something else.  To save bandwidth, I will also address your other post. I did not mention non AA athletes because the topic of this thread is ladies who post "No AA"....it is NOT ladies who post "No Athletes". Now, lest you fell that you have insulted me, don't.  Just like amahumanbean, I relayed what three PROVIDERS told me, so your "translation" is what you think is in the minds of Providers...not me. However, your reaction DOES validate what I said about ladies shying away from such conversations to avoid interrogations and the demand for justifications. Let me now add to the list, to also avoid "translations".

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2 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

You sir are generally an intelligent and non confrontational poster as well. Certainly you are too intelligent to "translate" what someone said to a newmeaning which clearly YOU KNOW is the old "strawman argument". There won't be much point in anyone discussing anything on these boards if everyone decides to argue and post "translations" of what people said as something else.  To save bandwidth, I will also address your other post. I did not mention non AA athletes because the topic of this thread is ladies who post "No AA"....it is NOT ladies who post "No Athletes". Now, lest you fell that you have insulted me, don't.  Just like amahumanbean, I relayed what three PROVIDERS told me, so your "translation" is what you think is in the minds of Providers...not me. However, your reaction DOES validate what I said about ladies shying away from such conversations to avoid interrogations and the demand for justifications. Let me now add to the list, to also avoid "translations".

I just find the lingual gymnastics fascinating in your posts to this topic

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2 minutes ago, MrBigShot said:

I just find the lingual gymnastics fascinating in your posts to this topic

It is good that you do....and I mean that sincerely and not the least sarcastically. People jump to conclusions and post to amahumanbean.....missing as one poster said, that he is "just the messenger." You missed that "messenger" concept in my post. In MY original post to "humanbean", I specifically went out of my way to mention that ladies are frequently unwilling to post on controversial subjects because they have concerns that I don't have. I posted that because of the reactions, over reactions, jumped to conclusions, and translations were likely to occur. The ladies know that would also happen to them and thus often shy away from many topics. I think that is too bad. However, I also think it is OUR FAULT ( we guy posters). So I will accept your term of "lingual gymnastics". Maybe they would not be needed in a scenario where every word was not examined, judged and re-interpreted.

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10 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

You sir are generally an intelligent and non confrontational poster as well. Certainly you are too intelligent to "translate" what someone said to a newmeaning which clearly YOU KNOW is the old "strawman argument". There won't be much point in anyone discussing anything on these boards if everyone decides to argue and post "translations" of what people said as something else.  To save bandwidth, I will also address your other post. I did not mention non AA athletes because the topic of this thread is ladies who post "No AA"....it is NOT ladies who post "No Athletes". Now, lest you fell that you have insulted me, don't.  Just like amahumanbean, I relayed what three PROVIDERS told me, so your "translation" is what you think is in the minds of Providers...not me. However, your reaction DOES validate what I said about ladies shying away from such conversations to avoid interrogations and the demand for justifications. Let me now add to the list, to also avoid "translations".

Besides finding your responses both fascinating and condescending at the same time, It appears I'm alone in my challenges to your arguments. However, I would like to quell any fears or potential fears any provider may have if they should feel compelled to substantiate your arguments. If an individual provider were to share her reasons, whatever they may be, for "No AA's" in her ads, I wouldn't attempt to argue or dispute with her or them. After all, it's their business and any provider can choose to see or not to see a client or group of clients as they see fit for their business.

I'm only playing "Devil's Advocate" with your comments because you claim to be just passing on information from the source. I have no idea what a provider's reasons could be for "No AA's" and am fascinated by some of your responses. That's all.  

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3 minutes ago, MrBigShot said:

Besides finding your responses both fascinating and condescending at the same time, It appears I'm alone in my challenges to your arguments. However, I would like to quell any fears or potential fears any provider may have if they should feel compelled to substantiate your arguments. If an individual provider were to share her reasons, whatever they may be, for "No AA's" in her ads, I wouldn't attempt to argue or dispute with her or them. After all, it's their business and any provider can choose to see or not to see a client or group of clients as they see fit for their business.

I'm only playing "Devil's Advocate" with your comments because you claim to be just passing on information from the source. I have no idea what a provider's reasons could be for "No AA's" and am fascinated by some of your responses. That's all.  

By the way...love the "Devil's Advocate" reference to my earlier post. We are actually mostly in agreement here, it just does not show. You see, when you translated my post to a new meaning.....that meaning was then TRANSFERRED to the providers who actually passed on those comments. I can see by this post, that you rightly do not want the ladies to think you believe that they see non AA clients in the way you translated....you did not say that. Neither did I. Putting words in my mouth is as distasteful to me as anyone else...and will generally get a condescending attitude in response. I am in fact, not really making any arguments, aside from that consistent position throughout this thread that the providers can see whoever they wish, for any reasons they wish...or not. This you also agree with.

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6 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

By the way...love the "Devil's Advocate" reference to my earlier post. We are actually mostly in agreement here, it just does not show. You see, when you translated my post to a new meaning.....that meaning was then TRANSFERRED to the providers who actually passed on those comments. I can see by this post, that you rightly do not want the ladies to think you believe that they see non AA clients in the way you translated....you did not say that. Neither did I. Putting words in my mouth is as distasteful to me as anyone else...and will generally get a condescending attitude in response. I am in fact, not really making any arguments, aside from that consistent position throughout this thread that the providers can see whoever they wish, for any reasons they wish...or not. This you also agree with.

So we're in agreement with provider's reasons for not seeing AA men under 30 because  MANY have sky high sex drives, are well endowed, highly athletic and may possibly be college athletes or professional athletes and sessions with these super-sexed, athletic Men are exhausting and hard work.

So would it be fair to ask then since the professional teams of Colorado have more than one race associated with their rosters that should there also be a caveat for NON AA athletes from these teams since the implication is the NON AA professional and college athletes don't have the same concerns for providers as the AA athletes do? If not, then why even mention the fact that "many are college and or professional athletes from the Broncos, Rockies, Nuggets, etc" at all? I'm questioning why the sex drives, level of fitness and endowment are only factors for the AA athletes and not the Non AA's.

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1 hour ago, MrBigShot said:

So we're in agreement with provider's reasons for not seeing AA men under 30 because  MANY have sky high sex drives, are well endowed, highly athletic and may possibly be college athletes or professional athletes and sessions with these super-sexed, athletic Men are exhausting and hard work.

So would it be fair to ask then since the professional teams of Colorado have more than one race associated with their rosters that should there also be a caveat for NON AA athletes from these teams since the implication is the NON AA professional and college athletes don't have the same concerns for providers as the AA athletes do? If not, then why even mention the fact that "many are college and or professional athletes from the Broncos, Rockies, Nuggets, etc" at all? I'm questioning why the sex drives, level of fitness and endowment are only factors for the AA athletes and not the Non AA's.

Hold your horses there...not sure we are in agreement on THAT. What 3 providers told me does not go for all, and having never been in a session with a guy of any race in any profession, I personally can't say one way or the other.  As for the other races on sports teams, two points. First, a reminder that this post IS associated with providers and AA clients. Second, simple fact is, AA athletes represent a substantial majority of the players on those teams. The exception to that is of course the Avs.......who were left out of the conversation for that reason. If the women I talked with had commented on non AA athletes, I would have passed that along as well, but they did not. I won't speculate on that subject. I will speculate that caveats of any kind need to be as brief as possible to avoid a legalistic, technical quagmire. The flood gates open as soon as an ad goes up that says..."No ( whatevers)..except for xxxx or unless they......xxxxx".  One light example that MAAAYBE a lady or two would dare substantiate. I know for a fact when any lady posts  "no men under the age of 30"  ( or 40 or whatever)...she WILL get guys who say....."Hey...I know the ad says 30...but I am 28 and that's close enough, right?"  Caveats...the more brief, the better. Hence.....the unexplained..."No AA"

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4 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

Hold your horses there...not sure we are in agreement on THAT. What 3 providers told me does not go for all, and having never been in a session with a guy of any race in any profession, I personally can't say one way or the other.  As for the other races on sports teams, two points. First, a reminder that this post IS associated with providers and AA clients. Second, simple fact is, AA athletes represent a substantial majority of the players on those teams. The exception to that is of course the Avs.......who were left out of the conversation for that reason. If the women I talked with had commented on non AA athletes, I would have passed that along as well, but they did not. I won't speculate on that subject. I will speculate that caveats of any kind need to be as brief as possible to avoid a legalistic, technical quagmire. The flood gates open as soon as an ad goes up that says..."No ( whatevers)..except for xxxx or unless they......xxxxx".  One light example that MAAAYBE a lady or two would dare substantiate. I know for a fact when any lady posts  "no men under the age of 30"  ( or 40 or whatever)...she WILL get guys who say....."Hey...I know the ad says 30...but I am 28 and that's close enough, right?"  Caveats...the more brief, the better. Hence.....the unexplained..."No AA"

I was simply conceding your point as conveyed to you from your source and was paraphrasing from your earlier post to AHB. Where the "agreement" comes in was with the provider(s) reasoning as told to you. Of course I didn't mean to imply you had first hand evidence of these reasons, neither do I.

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