Posted March 21, 2015 agree outing is not acceptable. Go ahead ..... just say "last word!!" so you can have it. OK - last word. (If you agree with me, I wonder why you argue so much. Oh well.) Only one hooker, and another hooker's boyfriend (yup, it's relevant) have said or implied that outing is an OK response to a NCNS. Imagine the outrage if any of us guys said the same in reverse. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 OK - last word. (If you agree with me, I wonder why you argue so much. Oh well.) Only one hooker, and another hooker's boyfriend (yup, it's relevant) have said or implied that outing is an OK response to a NCNS. Imagine the outrage if any of us guys said the same in reverse. He agreed with the fact that public outing isn't cool, he didn't agree with anything else you said. How can you be all so knowledgeable and still lack such basic comprehension skills? All you ever do is argue and accuse. I sincerely doubt the OP was so malicious that she considered a warning post and outing post. Since your so freaking smart what sort of information did you think went on a black list? Would you consider every guy ever put on a black list or naughty list to be outed? Once again read the OPs post. It wasn't just a NC/NS it was a very much an on purpose waste of her time. Dude got the location and then admitted to her that he had never even actually left home. If that's the kind of guy you want to defend well then to borrow your phrase that says a lot about you. :rolleyes::rolleyes: 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 not sure she's real. is Madison Monroe an agency or is she stealing someone's name. I've seen that name used in Phoenix. Calls into question her honesty as when another lady move to Denver and took an all too close variation of very well know provider who liked Camels. Madison and Monroe are two very common names in the escorting biz but you can search her number and find her ads and a recent reviews from a respected reviewer. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 He agreed with the fact that public outing isn't cool, he didn't agree with anything else you said. How can you be all so knowledgeable and still lack such basic comprehension skills? All you ever do is argue and accuse. I sincerely doubt the OP was so malicious that she considered a warning post and outing post. Since your so freaking smart what sort of information did you think went on a black list? Would you consider every guy ever put on a black list or naughty list to be outed? Once again read the OPs post. It wasn't just a NC/NS it was a very much an on purpose waste of her time. Dude got the location and then admitted to her that he had never even actually left home. If that's the kind of guy you want to defend well then to borrow your phrase that says a lot about you. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Make that TWO hookers implying that it's OK to out a client. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) He agreed with the fact that public outing isn't cool, he didn't agree with anything else you said. How can you be all so knowledgeable and still lack such basic comprehension skills? All you ever do is argue and accuse. I sincerely doubt the OP was so malicious that she considered a warning post and outing post. Since your so freaking smart what sort of information did you think went on a black list? Would you consider every guy ever put on a black list or naughty list to be outed? Once again read the OPs post. It wasn't just a NC/NS it was a very much an on purpose waste of her time. Dude got the location and then admitted to her that he had never even actually left home. If that's the kind of guy you want to defend well then to borrow your phrase that says a lot about you. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Can you please point out to me who has anywhere in this thread defended the guys actions. If however we all can't agree that outing anyone's personal info is wrong in any kind of situation then we do have a problem here. It really is just that simple and all these side bar arguments are detracting from what should be the main point. ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... Edited March 21, 2015 by Crazy Horse addition 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 Well since she outed one of us, now it's time to out her 720 609-0092 Madison Monroe. Bitch. Just kidding. Wow I was just about to crown av8r winner. But Ms kitten is cumming in from behind with some Hail Mary posts from the next dimension. I better let this one sit a bit. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 He agreed with the fact that public outing isn't cool, he didn't agree with anything else you said. How can you be all so knowledgeable and still lack such basic comprehension skills? All you ever do is argue and accuse. I sincerely doubt the OP was so malicious that she considered a warning post and outing post. Since your so freaking smart what sort of information did you think went on a black list? Would you consider every guy ever put on a black list or naughty list to be outed? Once again read the OPs post. It wasn't just a NC/NS it was a very much an on purpose waste of her time. Dude got the location and then admitted to her that he had never even actually left home. If that's the kind of guy you want to defend well then to borrow your phrase that says a lot about you. :rolleyes::rolleyes: By the way, you appear to be lacking comprehension skills yourself. Show us ONE PERSON in this thread who has defended the guy? On the contrary, many of us have called him a douchebag. If you don't understand the point of the strong response to the OP, then you aren't bothering to stop being bitter long enough to consider our point. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 Well since she outed one of us, now it's time to out her 720 609-0092 Madison Monroe. Bitch. Just kidding. Wow I was just about to crown av8r winner. But Ms kitten is cumming in from behind with some Hail Mary posts from the next dimension. I better let this one sit a bit. Hey wait a minute...I'm not even in the running??? ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Hey wait a minute...I'm not even in the running??? ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... You're doing great don't doubt yourself. It's just that av8r is great bull shitter. If he doesn't agree with you or visa versa he will belittle you is all. Edited March 22, 2015 by macho Need explaining 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 You're doing great don't doubt yourself. It's just that av8r is great bull shitter Awww - I'm flattered <eyes flutter> 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 Time for closing arguments x2 ! Speak now or forever hold your piece. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 All I can say is that while I have absolutely no idea what exactly happened in this case, that is at least 50% (maybe more) of the complaints I get like this, the appointment wasn't even confirmed by the client (and therefore was never booked). The provider often THINKS the appointment is booked, and the client thinks his contact with the provider was just an inquiry..... Now as I said, I don't know the specifics of this situation. However, the client admitted he never even left his house so I'm betting it was a case of provider confusion/assumption about the appointment actually being confirmed, resulting in the desire to exact revenge. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 Can you please point out to me who has anywhere in this thread defended the guys actions. If however we all can't agree that outing anyone's personal info is wrong in any kind of situation then we do have a problem here. It really is just that simple and all these side bar arguments are detracting from what should be the main point. ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... When you tell a provider she's wrong for doing something she thought was the right and was the right just the wrong venue you overlook the behavior that led the provider to post in the first place. The issue is now how credible is the OP and why should we believe her and pick apart every little thing we can. We just all had a very similar discussion. I said it then and I will say it again now, ladies have very little recourse. I am pretty certain the OP thought she was doing the right thing. She seems new and not totally aware of the "TOB Way Of Doing Things" Not everyone has equal knowledge, there is so much to learn and so little time in which your allowed to learn before the angry mob comes after you with their pitchforks. I already agreed that "outing" is a bad thing. I don't consider this to really be an outing with malicious intent. This sounded like someone with good intent but poor execution. There was more abhorrence for her "outing" someone than there was for some creep who is time wasting and address collecting. There is no way to convey to you guys just how creepy that is, how scared you feel in that moment because you realize you have no idea who you are dealing with. At what point does a gent's behavior become punishable, so to speak? At what point does it make sense that if guys don't want to be outed or be on a blacklist they should not act like assholes? There is no one main point here. This post does nothing but highlight many of the current problems that we have. With ladies having very little recourse and screening becoming an issue, it's not surprising that something like this happened. The path to verification sites is not well lit and with anonymity becoming increasingly common it's harder to weed out the jerks and the number of incidents are on the rise. The why it happened is just as important as the incident itself. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 My judgemt is in the favor of proscution av8r and CH. Because in all reality she broke the rules and kuduk figured it out in 2.9 milliseconds. Kudos. Av8r points are on point most of the time. Unfortunately he makes a lot a Points and they are not always perfect so I deducted according. But CH is spot on 1000% on it thus the are winners and whiners. Now ms kitten and gr8owl did good too as they are master debaters of the other board. They been doing it a long time. But don't let me get in the way of you feel. See you guys make good points. Just the fact of the matter is the debate was a simple one and figured out by kuduk quickly. Sentencing: Um every one is quilts of either pimping prostturing or soliciting. So everyone spank your own hand. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 So everyone spank your own hand. I'd rather spank something else, LOL 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 All I can say is that while I have absolutely no idea what exactly happened in this case, that is at least 50% (maybe more) of the complaints I get like this, the appointment wasn't even confirmed by the client (and therefore was never booked). The provider often THINKS the appointment is booked, and the client thinks his contact with the provider was just an inquiry..... Now as I said, I don't know the specifics of this situation. However, the client admitted he never even left his house so I'm betting it was a case of provider confusion/assumption about the appointment actually being confirmed, resulting in the desire to exact revenge. Oh snapp new evidence presents for us by a new witness , Mistrial!!! CH and av8r are not the fathers. OVERTIME!!!!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 Aren't there sections of the TOB site that are password-protected, provider-only and/or member-only "blacklist" sites better suited to sharing this sort of announcement? Seriously now...with all the discussions on this board about how bad it is looked upon to out someone by posting personal info for both clients and providers. Then to have this happen. It just makes your head spin sometimes. ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 My judgemt is in the favor of proscution av8r and CH. Because in all reality she broke the rules and kuduk figured it out in 2.9 milliseconds. Kudos. Av8r points are on point most of the time. Unfortunately he makes a lot a Points and they are not always perfect so I deducted according. But CH is spot on 1000% on it thus the are winners and whiners. Now ms kitten and gr8owl did good too as they are master debaters of the other board. They been doing it a long time. But don't let me get in the way of you feel. See you guys make good points. Just the fact of the matter is the debate was a simple one and figured out by kuduk quickly. Sentencing: Um every one is quilts of either pimping prostturing or soliciting. So everyone spank your own hand. Was it just one drink you had after dinner??? ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 Was it just one drink you had after dinner??? ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... Ahhahahahah nope it's like number 10. It's going to be a long night and great debate I'm going to cover all of it play by play. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 When you tell a provider she's wrong for doing something she thought was the right and was the right just the wrong venue you overlook the behavior that led the provider to post in the first place. The issue is now how credible is the OP and why should we believe her and pick apart every little thing we can. We just all had a very similar discussion. I said it then and I will say it again now, ladies have very little recourse. I am pretty certain the OP thought she was doing the right thing. She seems new and not totally aware of the "TOB Way Of Doing Things" Not everyone has equal knowledge, there is so much to learn and so little time in which your allowed to learn before the angry mob comes after you with their pitchforks. I already agreed that "outing" is a bad thing. I don't consider this to really be an outing with malicious intent. This sounded like someone with good intent but poor execution. There was more abhorrence for her "outing" someone than there was for some creep who is time wasting and address collecting. There is no way to convey to you guys just how creepy that is, how scared you feel in that moment because you realize you have no idea who you are dealing with. At what point does a gent's behavior become punishable, so to speak? At what point does it make sense that if guys don't want to be outed or be on a blacklist they should not act like assholes? There is no one main point here. This post does nothing but highlight many of the current problems that we have. With ladies having very little recourse and screening becoming an issue, it's not surprising that something like this happened. The path to verification sites is not well lit and with anonymity becoming increasingly common it's harder to weed out the jerks and the number of incidents are on the rise. The why it happened is just as important as the incident itself. What's the old saying...The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The ends seldom justify the means. Although new to Denver she's been a provider for 4.5 years. I doubt that the rules in California where she's from are all that much different than the "TOB way of doing things". All that info is in the 1st of her 4 total posts. Just like the guy who seldom or never writes reviews until he feels the need for retribution she used the board to vent her anger at a particular individual. Which wouldn't have been that bad as providers do it here all the time but you NEVER, NEVER, NEVER EVER out someone's personal info. I'll be taking this debate in a different direction with a new thread so no one needs to respond again here; unless of course you want to. ...Happy Hobbying... ...Crazy Horse... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 I have seen only four providers TOTAL (not counting FBSM which is my preference). The fifth FS provider I merely contacted and she told me what day she would be in town. I never responded to her. Lo and behold I get an e-mail from her saying, "Where were you! I was waiting, etc." I never booked or confirmed an appointment. Thus, it is entirely possible that the OP never really had an appointment. We don't know the real story without any cross examination. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 DID YOU EVEN READ THE ONE SENTENCE THAT SHE WROTE????? He booked, she disclosed a location and he never showed. Does that sound like a nice guy? i second Luce Kytten is something wrong with a dude booking and asking for the location of ASP and not showing up.... what a chomp 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 I try to understand, yet I am failing I am not sure what happened, but the truth is somewhere in the middle, yet, no matter what, even if what this "lady" is saying is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, what she did is despicable. There are other avenues to warn providers, period... I don't want to hear excuses from her, or for her. If you know about TOB, you know about other sites. I had it with all these females who think their shit don't stink, just because they do what they do, and giving all of us a bad reputation . Simply put: If you are an ASP, and are doing your job right, there's no reason to get on here trying to start shit, trying to throw others (both sexes) under the bus, just because "oh my god, I'm so good and care so much"... Pleassseeeee... You should be busy!!! And even a NCNS should not make such a big impact on your finances, becauseif tthat's the case, you obviously are in the wrong line of work. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 I try to understand, yet I am failing I am not sure what happened, but the truth is somewhere in the middle, yet, no matter what, even if what this "lady" is saying is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, what she did is despicable. There are other avenues to warn providers, period... I don't want to hear excuses from her, or for her. If you know about TOB, you know about other sites. I had it with all these females who think their shit don't stink, just because they do what they do, and giving all of us a bad reputation . Simply put: If you are an ASP, and are doing your job right, there's no reason to get on here trying to start shit, trying to throw others (both sexes) under the bus, just because "oh my god, I'm so good and care so much"... Pleassseeeee... You should be busy!!! And even a NCNS should not make such a big impact on your finances, becauseif tthat's the case, you obviously are in the wrong line of work. This is refreshing, thank you. Too bad your attitude is so rare. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22, 2015 I try to understand, yet I am failing I am not sure what happened, but the truth is somewhere in the middle, yet, no matter what, even if what this "lady" is saying is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, what she did is despicable. There are other avenues to warn providers, period... I don't want to hear excuses from her, or for her. If you know about TOB, you know about other sites. I had it with all these females who think their shit don't stink, just because they do what they do, and giving all of us a bad reputation . Simply put: If you are an ASP, and are doing your job right, there's no reason to get on here trying to start shit, trying to throw others (both sexes) under the bus, just because "oh my god, I'm so good and care so much"... Pleassseeeee... You should be busy!!! And even a NCNS should not make such a big impact on your finances, becauseif tthat's the case, you obviously are in the wrong line of work. So true... even if this is 100% accurate of what happened, this is not the avenue. What a mess... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 23, 2015 wow, lots of good stuff in the thread 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
