Probably ripped off for a large amt...

[Guest]

Well, I took an out call to Fort Collins last night, an all nigher for 1500. Long story short, I left 3 hrs ago and am now sitting in front of a bank where he had put me off for another 30 min due to some damned meeting. I've got his phone number, his name, and the outcall took place at his home...what is my recourse if he doesn't pay up today other than posting an alert? By all indications he SHOULD pay me, right? Forgive my apparent naivete, but this is the first time in 12 years that I've been left expecting to have to go after my $. Help a stupid sister out here...

[crazyb]

I am sorry this has happened to you. It's a shame that some people on both sides of this hobby are looking to rip off people. This hobby is supposed to be fun.

I am surprised any provider would stay with out being paid up front.

Good luck to you

[MAG]

Well, I took an out call to Fort Collins last night, an all nigher for 1500. Long story short, I left 3 hrs ago and am now sitting in front of a bank where he had put me off for another 30 min due to some damned meeting. I've got his phone number, his name, and the outcall took place at his home...what is my recourse if he doesn't pay up today other than posting an alert? By all indications he SHOULD pay me, right? Forgive my obvious naivete, but this is the first time in 12 years that I've been left expecting to have to go after my $. Help a stupid sister out here...

Fixed it for you.

Next time, get paid in advance.

[gr8owl]

first - I am sorry you got taken advantage of ...... but 12 years in you allow that to happen? confused. You are p411 - if he is too, lodge a complaint there. Oh, and by all indications, if he did not pay you before you left, it aint happening. If there is no other side of the story (always seems to be) this is why blacklists were invented.

[Guest]

This really sucks ass. Im sorry this happen to you. This is why many touring escorts and high end escorts require a deposit. Plus you collect the money upon arrival. I did this once to myself, I seen a guy whom I seen before he shorted me. Never again. But I blame me... because I should have been a bloody bitch a counted the cheese upfront lol. So it was my fault. But he should have known better.. So I just won't ever see him again. Its really simple.

[lakerboy24]

That guy has some really bad karma coming his way smh that's a shame

[Guest]

That guy has some really bad karma coming his way smh that's a shame

update! found another report on him, he seems to be making a habit of this nonsense. Ladies, please [snip] spread the word and do not let him bully you...its his only way he can communicate or gain control. Seriously, Fuck This Guy, let's try not to let him book anyone else!

Edited March 11, 2015 by Kaduk
keep the comments to a general in scope discussion.....

[Guest pejo]

That really sucks. It sounds like you made a small mistake, in the name of trusting someone, and got burned pretty badly for it. I don't know how the ASPs' black list system works, but it seems like he belongs on the list.

One question, have you considered asking him to pay something for the cancellation. I can't see him paying $1500. But maybe something (like $500)? Just a thought.

[Bit Banger]

...

One question, have you considered asking him to pay something for the cancellation. I can't see him paying $1500. But maybe something (like $500)? Just a thought.

You might want to read the OP again. The session took place.

To the OP:

Sorry this happened to you. As several have said, perhaps business should have taken place before the fun times.

[Guest]

If it was me and I knew where he lived, I would camp out until he gets home or send some muscle over to shake him a bit.

[MAG]

If it was me and I knew where he lived, I would camp out until he gets home or send some muscle over to shake him a bit.

And people wonder why johns (even the ones who are honest & pay) won't give out personal information.

[Bit Banger]

If it was me and I knew where he lived, I would camp out until he gets home or send some muscle over to shake him a bit.

And people wonder why johns (even the ones who are honest & pay) won't give out personal information.

IMHO the reasons clients don't like to give out too much information are the same reasons ASPs don't like to give out that same information.

dezainah's post is just one example; one that cuts both ways.

[Guest pejo]

You might want to read the OP again. The session took place.

My bad. That really really sucks.

[BrettArch]

i can just hear your voice, saying " I should have been a bloody bitch" lol

This really sucks ass. Im sorry this happen to you. This is why many touring escorts and high end escorts require a deposit. Plus you collect the money upon arrival. I did this once to myself, I seen a guy whom I seen before he shorted me. Never again. But I blame me... because I should have been a bloody bitch a counted the cheese upfront lol. So it was my fault. But he should have known better.. So I just won't ever see him again. Its really simple.

[Guest]

i sympathize with your situation. lord knows its happened to the best of us. i would say there is a good chance you wont see a dime from this person, so i'd chalk it up to experience and always make sure you get the donation upfront. you don't have to be a broad about it, but i have found out (the hard way) if you don't get the donation squared away initially, there is going to be problems at the end. tact and a playful attitude really are the ways to get around this situation so ultimately you don't get burned.

[gr8owl]

Upon further review from my first response, I guess I will be the lone ranger and call bullshit. You claim to have done this for 12 years yet you agree to stay overnight with presumably a new client without getting the money up front and yet this is the first time this has ever happened to you. Bullshit. What is the rest of the story and/or other side.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Kaduk

[macho]

Gees if I was you I would sue him for libel.

[boink36]

Your link does not work.

Upon further review from my first response, I guess I will be the lone ranger and call bullshit. You claim to have done this for 12 years yet you agree to stay overnight with presumably a new client without getting the money up front and yet this is the first time this has ever happened to you. Bullshit. What is the rest of the story and/or other side.

The reviews for her go all the way back to the start of this year and this was definitely a newbie mistake.

[Guest]

Guess I don't really care how long she's done it or if she made a mistake. I think she gets that at this point. Guy is still a first class dick and owes her money.

[gr8owl]

Guess I don't really care how long she's done it or if she made a mistake. I think she gets that at this point. Guy is still a first class dick and owes her money.

If that is what happened, yes he is and does. My point is that the story does NOT make sense from the git go. 12 years experience, that naive, and never before burned. Sorry, either misstated or there is MUCH more to story. But feel free to buy it if you choose. Like I said .... maybe I am the only one that sees it that way. Wouldn't be the first time I was full of shit.

[MAG]

Seriously, Fuck This Guy

I gather you already did.

I agree with gr8owl, we're only getting one side of the story. 12 years and you supposedly fell for what you supposedly fell for. Not buying it.

It may be time for another "bat shit crazy hooker" thread.

[Guest]

I'm just saying if someone stole $1,500 from me, I'd do everything I can to get it back. What an idiot for stiffing her after having an outcall at his own place. Does he honestly think he can get away with it without any consequences? Anonimity in this industry is for everyone's safety.

[Lucy Kitten]

If that is what happened, yes he is and does. My point is that the story does NOT make sense from the git go. 12 years experience, that naive, and never before burned. Sorry, either misstated or there is MUCH more to story. But feel free to buy it if you choose. Like I said .... maybe I am the only one that sees it that way. Wouldn't be the first time I was full of shit.

I gather you already did.

I agree with gr8owl, we're only getting one side of the story. 12 years and you supposedly fell for what you supposedly fell for. Not buying it.

It may be time for another "bat shit crazy hooker" thread.

Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all. It's so very easy to believe when a client has horror stories about BSC providers but when it goes the other way and a lady has issues she must be bat shit crazy and not telling the whole story??

I know my opinion only counts for half since I am one of those wimmen y'all dislike so much but read on anyways. The number of asshole clients waaayyy outnumbers the bat shit crazy providers. There are men who short the donation or try not to leave one at all. We women have little recourse, the anonymity that you hide behind leaves us little option for recourse when something bad actually happens.

No one asked whether or not you actually believed it, and the OP certainly didn't ask whether or not her story sounded legit. She asked for advice.

Any man who is brazen enough to rip off a provider in his own home probably deserves a metaphorical maybe even literal swift kick in the nuts.

[MAG]

.......swift kick in the nuts.

Gee, I wonder where we might have gotten the impression that there are bat-shit crazy hookers?

[Guest pejo]

If that is what happened, yes he is and does. My point is that the story does NOT make sense from the git go. 12 years experience, that naive, and never before burned. Sorry, either misstated or there is MUCH more to story. But feel free to buy it if you choose. Like I said .... maybe I am the only one that sees it that way. Wouldn't be the first time I was full of shit.

I gather you already did.

I agree with gr8owl, we're only getting one side of the story. 12 years and you supposedly fell for what you supposedly fell for. Not buying it.

It may be time for another "bat shit crazy hooker" thread.

I take OP at her word. Maybe this was her first overnight and she hadn't had much of an issue collecting in the past. People make mistakes (like she did) and the hobby world has some assholes in it (like him).

She's not naming names here, so why make up the story? Seems like she is just looking for some advice / commiseration.

[Bit Banger]

Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all. It's so very easy to believe when a client has horror stories about BSC providers but when it goes the other way and a lady has issues she must be bat shit crazy and not telling the whole story??

When horror stories show up here, I ALWAYS look for the other side of the story. But we seldom get both sides, sad to say.

In this particular case, there are a few inconsistencies which raise some doubt, but not enough to call her version an outright lie.

... The number of asshole clients waaayyy outnumbers the bat shit crazy providers. ...

Of this I have no doubt. If for not other reason than there are more clients than providers. I will say that as my screening criteria/methods have matured, I have improved the quality of my experiences and tend to not encounter as many rip-offs & BSC individuals. In the pre-Internet days of pooning, it was (at best) a 50/50 crap shoot. Phone sex was more cost effective with guaranteed results.

... Any man who is brazen enough to rip off a provider in his own home probably deserves a metaphorical maybe even literal swift kick in the nuts.

As told, the guy is scum. Black listing? A few phone calls to remind him of his debt. It's bad form to rip-off folks, be they providers or clients.

But also as told, the provider needs to work on her business practices, especially for first time clients. This is one of the inconsistencies - a 12 year veteran making a rookie mistake.

[Bit Banger]

... She's not naming names here, so why make up the story? Seems like she is just looking for some advice / commiseration.

On ^^this^^ I agree.

And I think she has gotten both. Some advice (good & bad) both for the current situation & the future. And some sympathy for her plight.

[Guest]

Somehow this doesn't surprise me at all. It's so very easy to believe when a client has horror stories about BSC providers but when it goes the other way and a lady has issues she must be bat shit crazy and not telling the whole story??

I know my opinion only counts for half since I am one of those wimmen y'all dislike so much but read on anyways. The number of asshole clients waaayyy outnumbers the bat shit crazy providers. There are men who short the donation or try not to leave one at all. We women have little recourse, the anonymity that you hide behind leaves us little option for recourse when something bad actually happens.

No one asked whether or not you actually believed it, and the OP certainly didn't ask whether or not her story sounded legit. She asked for advice.

Any man who is brazen enough to rip off a provider in his own home probably deserves a metaphorical maybe even literal swift kick in the nuts.[?SIZE]

Gee, I wonder where we might have gotten the impression that there are bat-shit crazy hookers?

Well, there's bat-shit crazy and then there's righteous indignation. I tend to lean towards righteous indignation regarding Luce's response in this case.

And, while we don't have both sides of the story, if it is true, then I would support the right of righteously indignant providers to line up around the block for a turn at kicking this guy in the nuts.

Just as BSC providers make it difficult for providers to screen safely, guys like this make it tougher for me to safely get laid.

[MAG]

Well, there's bat-shit crazy and then there's righteous indignation. I tend to lean towards righteous indignation regarding Luce's response in this case.

And, while we don't have both sides of the story, if it is true, then I would support the right of righteously indignant providers to line up around the block for a turn at kicking this guy in the nuts.

Just as BSC providers make it difficult for providers to screen safely, guys like this make it tougher for me to safely get laid.

There have been two hookers on this thread who have advocated physical violence as an appropriate response to this situation. Regardless of whether the story is true as told by the OP, that's bat shit crazy.

[Kyla Young]

Unfortunately this is a "client" and I use that term very loosely who has done things of this sort to multiple providers. He is listed on the blacklist sites. The only providers who follow thru on the appts without getting the money are girls that are either new or don't screen by checking the boards. He has several MO's and I'm sure many other providers recognized by her post who this was. A lot of us were just out the drive and time to and from ft Collins and didn't do the appt due to no payment up front or whatever reason.

I'm so sorry this happened but the best thing I can tell you is now you know. Screen screen screen. Join the blacklist sites, google guys numbers to see if they are listed on bad boy sites you aren't a member of. We can't weed them all out but do the best you can. Spread the word, add to the reports and then move on.

There really isn't any recourse you can do. He will get his eventually. He will mess with the wrong provider who has a nasty pimp backing her up but until then new girls and established providers are subject to him and others like him.

Be safe!