So how often does it happen...

[FCexplorer]

...that someone who's in the body rub / FBSM business crosses over and goes all the way? I would think it must happen at least sometimes, no? The woman finds the guy attractive, gets really turned on while doing her thing...and just goes for it. No? Having never sought out a FBSM, was just wondering about the frequency of that happening, from those with a lot of experience in that realm.

[slim jim]

I would say for extra $$$ a FBSM lady would do an upgrade. but I doubt it would be free.

[Guest pejo]

FBSM/body rub girls always have clear boundaries, although they may not always lay them all out for you up front. And don't waste your time thinking "maybe she will be so turned on by me that she will change her rules, and make an exception just for me." That's a male fantasy that never really lines up with reality. If she offers you more, it is simply because there is more on her menu than she may have disclosed in her ad, or in her initial conversation with you.

I have had one experience with a girl who advertised in the legit section of BP. She started clothed, then not clothed, then gave me a BBBJ, and was willing to do FS. But none of that was because I was so irresistible she lost all her senses. They were simply add-ons she offers to some people.

[pitbull]

This happens a lot IN YOUR BRAIN, and in videos designed to turn you on. As for reality, I suspect it happens VERY RARELY. They are FBSM, and do not want to go "all the way" for many different reasons.

The idea that she would be so overwhelmed by your charm and your irresistible schvonstooka is highly unlikely. In 90% of AMPs nowadays, they do not even offer the happy ending.

[N6_in_the_village]

FBSM/body rub girls always have clear boundaries, although they may not always lay them all out for you up front. And don't waste your time thinking "maybe she will be so turned on by me that she will change her rules, and make an exception just for me." That's a male fantasy that never really lines up with reality. If she offers you more, it is simply because there is more on her menu than she may have disclosed in her ad, or in her initial conversation with you.

I have had one experience with a girl who advertised in the legit section of BP. She started clothed, then not clothed, then gave me a BBBJ, and was willing to do FS. But none of that was because I was so irresistible she lost all her senses. They were simply add-ons she offers to some people.

+1, good and accurate post.

(unless the client is ME, of course, then she will be so turned on that she will change her rules and make an exception) (lolol)

[irisheyes]

All the more reason for me not to see them. I'm an all in take it or leave it kind of guy with no time to beat around the bush (no pun intended)

[Guest]

It happens occasionally. I've seen a couple of girls who advertise in body rub section on BP and not in the escort section that went all the way. Both with no additional cost. One of them told me that she wanted to make sure I returned. I think for these girls, it's their way to be selective with who they offer such services to. If they advertises in the escort section, then the customers would expect it. I've had similar experiences with girls who advertise under therapeutic and random services sections in BP and CL as either CMTs or massage therapist. They didn't go all the way but way past the line of it being a therapeutic service. Again, their way of being selective and they wanted to have fun/got horny or so I've been told.

[Guest Shauna_Styles]

Its happened for me a couple times. What can I say? The chemistry was off the charts and I made it clear that it wasn't an upsell, just two consenting adults who wanted to screw each others brains out.

Its not something that happens often but it has.

[synoches]

I've found it to be possible. Only one time did a provider with "boundaries" decide to cross them with me in the heat of the moment, though, so I can't imagine it happens all too often (but I don't really do FBSM very often). In this case, it was a massage provider I had seen a couple of times before and who offered a "switch" (so I could rub her). I managed to work a very sensual rub into going all the way. Keep in mind that there's hardly a guarantee that being able to give the rub means you'll get this. I fully expected to have my wandering hand corrected or the session ended as I got the lower regions more involved. Luckily, in this case, there was never any resistance. No extra charges either.

In one other case, over the course of conversation with a provider, she got really interested in the topic of my having seen various full-service providers. Lots of questions about it. About a week or so later, I saw her advertising increasingly sexier options as part of her menu until she finally made the full switch. I never did see her for that service though but I wondered if I missed an "upsell" that I could have suggested.

[Guest]

Sounds to me as tough as taking a stripper home. Ill stick with those that are fairly clear in what they offer and keep my expectations to that.

[Guest]

I have had a few occasions where FBSM turned into FS. But go in expecting ONLY FBSM if that is where she advertises. Some providers advertise in the Body Rub section because they think LE will not look there for FS providers. Something else to do is cross reference Body Rub ads with Escort ads. Some advertise in both. There was one I contacted and she asked which ad I am responding to. I had seen another FBSM provider 3 times. The first 2 occasions was FBSM. Next time it was FS.

[inkspot]

I have had it happen only once. She advertised as FBSM. I learned that you were invited back for additional services only if she liked you during the first appointment.

[engineer]

I believe many fbsm girls will cross the line, and they use the first meeting to determine that. I do not believe its typically cuz a guy is "so hot" that they couldn't resist. I suspect extra $, comfort level with you, and seeing if you're a creep or not ARE reasons.

[MAG]

I believe many fbsm girls will cross the line, and they use the first meeting to determine that. I do not believe its typically cuz a guy is "so hot" that they couldn't resist. I suspect extra $, comfort level with you, and seeing if you're a creep or not ARE reasons.

this ^^^

[inkspot]

I believe many fbsm girls will cross the line, and they use the first meeting to determine that. I do not believe its typically cuz a guy is "so hot" that they couldn't resist. I suspect extra $, comfort level with you, and seeing if you're a creep or not ARE reasons.

She found out I had a 10 pounder. Word gets around.

[ideomar]

Thanks for this interesting topic. I believe that the OP is talking about the girls who advertise strictly under body rubs, not the ones who advertise under both categories ( escorts and body rubs at the same time). Usually the body rubs girls have some clear boundaries may not offer extra services such as FS. However I believe it can be also YYMV. Usually during the sessions, when I become familiar with the girl we can talk about anything. They all told me they don't offer FS to anyone no matter what. Some have let me play hard with them until they reached climax( using only my fingers and mouth). In my perspective ( I can be wrong), there is at least one guy who has been lucky enough to get FS. Either because they think the guy is attractive or enough trustworthy (or generous with present and tips) to deserve a special treatment. In addition, the guy must keep his mouth shut if he wants to receive this treatment time to time. For example an agreement not to divulge this when he writes a review. This is just my opinion.

[nudiej]

you start doing massage and getting some ok cash monies...

you start offering a fbsm and start getting some good monies...

you start...

just saying - money has a way of motivating people...

happened to me a number of times once the trust is there...

[Guest pejo]

She found out I had a 10 pounder. Word gets around.

Wait. She weighed your dick, and then spread the news?

[Guest]

I've had it happen ... I'd call it rare, though, and strictly a personal chemistry thing and never any type of request I'd "push" with a provider.

[contrails]

Of course then you have the provider that advertises both and when you inquire about the fbsm she goes ballistic on you Via email.

[pitbull]

Wait. She weighed your dick, and then spread the news?

It must be difficult for Ink to lose weight with a brick in his pants.

[sparkey600]

schvonstooka?

AKA Young Frankenstein?

I've had the FS happen once.

No extra cash involved.

[pitbull]

schvonstooka?

AKA Young Frankenstein?

I've had the FS happen once.

No extra cash involved.

schvonstooka may well have its origins in Young Frankenstein, but I heard it from Ralph on the radio back in the old days of KROQ. He was describing Tommy Lee's giant schvonstooka, aka the human tripod.

[nairobi09]

If you are choosing FBSM providers based on whether you want FS from them, IMHO, this is a mistake. But liking thinking about it when you are getting FBSM is something else. Of course it is a fine line.

I had one FBSM provider hint strongly that with repeat visits the range of service would grow (he, he).

But the few times I have tried to move things further it has not 'worked.' Maybe it was my technique.

I also have noticed that at least one former advertised provider or FBSM is now working as an escort.

So the line can be very fine indeed.

[Guest]

*waving hand wildly* I HAVE A QUESTION!!

Was having a lovely chat with a younger fellow (mid 20's) who was telling me about a Tantric Massage that "went all the way". He had never done one before but went in openminded for anything. Sex was actually the last thing he was expecting because he was really seeking a massage. He said he was surprised on how intense his orgasm was considering she didn't exactly look as good in person as she did in her photos.

So, to circle back to my question: Does Tantric Massage end in sex (or release of some sort) or did she take advantage of an opportunity? LOL

He said it was less than $200 for the hour session.

[fork]

So, to circle back to my question: Does Tantric Massage end in sex (or release of some sort) or did she take advantage of an opportunity? .

I'm not sure the general answer, but here's my limited experience.

I've only done the "tantric massage" thing with one provider, and it was a sensual massage that ended with a handjob. Next two sessions, it ended with a BJ. I was going to see if we could make some more progress towards home plate, but then she disappeared.