Posted July 9, 2014 Okay I understand everyone wanting to be safe but I just read a young lady is requiring that you forward her a copy of your ID as part of her screening process. I guess each to their own and if that works for her, and you, then so be it but no one gets a copy of my driver's license. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 9, 2014 Here's a solution: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fillevoss.fake.driver.license.generator&hl=en See what she does with that! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 9, 2014 I saw that too but have never been asked for a copy of my ID. Don't think I would give it either. Not sure how that would help in screening anyway. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 9, 2014 I saw that too but have never been asked for a copy of my ID. Don't think I would give it either. Not sure how that would help in screening anyway. I don't fully understand myself but I would think it would be nice to have a real name and be able to identify someone if they did something fucked up to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 9, 2014 One my clients sent a provider here in Denver a copy of his Colorado Drivers License. He got outed, after he pist her off. He is a regular poster right here on TOB. While I will not mention his name, its up to him to say what she did to him. I do belive in screening, safty is #1 for us girls. But as Iv said in the past, it only takes 1 hooker to fuck it up for the rest of us. Once again, stop taking risks, and get p411 account. Then no hooker has your shit! problem solved. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 I agree. I would not send anyone a copy of my drivers license, prior to meeting. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 Did she want to make sure you were over 18. Asking for trouble. Next time have her send you hers first for your safety. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 If enough people laugh at her and hang up, she'll get the message. Or, ask for her ID. No one is worth me taking that kind of risk. There's an element of anonymity here for a reason. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 show her my ID on meeting, yes. Sending it beforehand or after.. not going to happen. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 show her my ID on meeting, yes. Sending it beforehand or after.. not going to happen. I agree with you and pfunk! I had someone ask to see my id upon meeting (it was my first agency experience) - but sending ahead of time? I would look elsewhere and just pass! I know people want to be safe - but.....there are other ways! If it gets too complicated - not worth the hassle! Have fun and be safe! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 The only time I was ever asked to show my ID was when I took advantage of a birthday discount of a (sadly) now-closed agency. It was easy...thumb over the pertinent information, the lady verified my birthday, and it was off to the races. I see no other cause for showing an ID. As others have said...just move on. Plenty of other choices. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 10, 2014 Who gives birthday discount, mines in 2 weeks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2014 This was a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2014 Back on topic, my ATF knows my real name and I know hers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2014 One my clients sent a provider here in Denver a copy of his Colorado Drivers License. He got outed, after he pist her off. He is a regular poster right here on TOB. While I will not mention his name, its up to him to say what she did to him. I do belive in screening, safty is #1 for us girls. But as Iv said in the past, it only takes 1 hooker to fuck it up for the rest of us. Once again, stop taking risks, and get p411 account. Then no hooker has your shit! problem solved. Is supposed to give LE the perpetrators info from P411? I can see it now "frank-05-f-6543 was the guy who tried to strangle me" officer. Oh and here is his email frankie@yahoo.com and here's his phone (a burner), 303-555-5555. Let me know how well this works if anything ever happens. Or better yet, you get ripped off and Frankie just changes all that info and starts all over again with new hookers seeing how provider buzz is no longer. We now have very little in reporting venues. If you have any solutions for these issues I would love to hear them. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2014 Is supposed to give LE the perpetrators info from P411? I can see it now "frank-05-f-6543 was the guy who tried to strangle me" officer. Oh and here is his email frankie@yahoo.com and here's his phone (a burner), 303-555-5555. Let me know how well this works if anything ever happens. Or better yet, you get ripped off and Frankie just changes all that info and starts all over again with new hookers seeing how provider buzz is no longer. If guy wants to hurt us girls, he can and will. Its doesnt matter if what form of screening was used. We now have very little in reporting venues. There are several blacklisting reporting venues. For the safety of the lady's I wont mention them. I do believe every one on both sides deserves the right for privacy. Both providers and clients. If you have any solutions for these issues I would love to hear them. To be honest, I dont have any solutions for these issues. I have thought about this. But there are many good guys, and guys who have no intentions on harming us girls. But there is those who ruinue it for the gentlemen who are completely harmless and just want to have good time. Same for us girls. It is very sad. But in this industry, providers & clients are playing russian rullet no matter what. Most ladys just try to there best and screen the best way they know how to. This is choice each of us make. Most ladys make the best of it. Try to becareful. I belive the guys to do as well. I just see this as a two way street, not just one sided for providers. I feel this is my common sence, but hey even I am not perfect! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2014 Is supposed to give LE the perpetrators info from P411? I can see it now "frank-05-f-6543 was the guy who tried to strangle me" officer. Oh and here is his email frankie@yahoo.com and here's his phone (a burner), 303-555-5555. Let me know how well this works if anything ever happens. Or better yet, you get ripped off and Frankie just changes all that info and starts all over again with new hookers seeing how provider buzz is no longer. We now have very little in reporting venues. If you have any solutions for these issues I would love to hear them. Well I went to see Suzy Creamschmear for a quick massage; my back's been bothering me a lot lately. But when I got there she demanded another $100 before she would start. When I said "No!", out jumps this dude demanding my wallet. I got this cut on the ribs when I was slow reaching for it. "Just a little incentive." He says. The 'but I have to know who they are' line works both ways & is dangerous for both guys & gals. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 If guy wants to hurt us girls, he can and will. Its doesnt matter if what form of screening was used. At the very least you have something to tell the cops and he can pay for his crime, that is my entire point, and it is a deterrent for some. They know we have their info and may choose not to try to hurt us. I dp realize that it might not stop a guy whose sole intent is to hurt hookers, but at the very least the hooker has a fighting chance to put him away. There are several blacklisting reporting venues. For the safety of the lady's I wont mention them. I do believe every one on both sides deserves the right for privacy. Both providers and clients. If the National Blacklist is one of them , it is the most abused there is To be honest, I dont have any solutions for these issues. I have thought about this. But there are many good guys, and guys who have no intentions on harming us girls. But there is those who ruinue it for the gentlemen who are completely harmless and just want to have good time. Same for us girls. It is very sad. But in this industry, providers & clients are playing russian rullet no matter what. Most ladys just try to there best and screen the best way they know how to. This is choice each of us make. Most ladys make the best of it. Try to becareful. I belive the guys to do as well. I just see this as a two way street, not just one sided for providers. I feel this is my common sence, but hey even I am not perfect! Then why do you make it a point to tell guys NOT to give out personal info? You might not need it but many do and you are doing those ladies a great disservice. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 Then why do you make it a point to tell guys NOT to give out personal info? You might not need it but many do and you are doing those ladies a great disservice. I do encourage screening. Every provider has the right to screen guys however she feels best to do so. I do engourage guys to get p411, rather than giving out there drivers license to an escort. Now by me telling guys to get a p411 account allows a 3rd party to do the screening. I feel p411 is the best way do business in my opinion. There many forms of screening without asking a guy for his licencse, therefore I dont see how I am doing ladies a great disservice unless she only only wants his State ID. And its my personal preference the guys get p411 Client ID's! I see this as it is a two way street. The ladies have a right to be safe and by all means screen the guys they way they choose to. The guys have the right to proceed with whatever screening they feel is appropriate for them. If either party doesnt like it.... too fucking bad....NEXT! There many guys willing to see all of girls and there is pently of fish to around for both providers and clients. AGAIN... BY ME TELLING GUYS TO GET A P411.... IS A SAFE FORM OF SCREENING 99.9% OF TIME SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL AND EFFECTIVE SCREENING. Now, if lady wants to ask a guy for his Drivers Licencse thats her choice! My other reasons for encouraging this kind of screening: #1: I am a victim of being outed and harassed. #2: I have expercied the consequences of being outed and btw more than once. #3: I have clients who have been recently outed and suffered consequences. So if you sit back and think for minute.... I do encourage screening by using p411. This makes it easier for the girls and the guys. Is there a reason why you disagree with me encouraging screening through p411 rather than getting there drivers licences? Now flip note... by us providers choosing to being a escort we are playing russian roulette. There is NEVER a guarantee that if the guy gives you his license that is the guy who shows up at YOUR door! I personally have experienced this one recently... He used someone else's ID to see me..... NOTHING IS 100% EVER. SIDE NOTE: I DO REQUIRE SCREENING MYSELF. IF I CHOOSE NOT SCREEN SOMEONE... THEN THAT IS ON ME. NOT ANYONE ELSE. TO EACH THERE OWN. ITS THATS SIMPLE IN MY EYES. You have your op, and I have mine. Mine is now based on #1, #2, #3 being outed has changed my op. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 Gentlemen, I encourage all of you to get p411 if you do not already have one. Nikki Holiday 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 I do encourage screening. Every provider has the right to screen guys however she feels best to do so. I do engourage guys to get p411, rather than giving out there drivers license to an escort. Now by me telling guys to get a p411 account allows a 3rd party to do the screening. I feel p411 is the best way do business in my opinion. There many forms of screening without asking a guy for his licencse, therefore I dont see how I am doing ladies a great disservice unless she only only wants his State ID. And its my personal preference the guys get p411 Client ID's! I see this as it is a two way street. The ladies have a right to be safe and by all means screen the guys they way they choose to. The guys have the right to proceed with whatever screening they feel is appropriate for them. If either party doesnt like it.... too fucking bad....NEXT! There many guys willing to see all of girls and there is pently of fish to around for both providers and clients. AGAIN... BY ME TELLING GUYS TO GET A P411.... IS A SAFE FORM OF SCREENING 99.9% OF TIME SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL AND EFFECTIVE SCREENING. Now, if lady wants to ask a guy for his Drivers Licencse thats her choice! My other reasons for encouraging this kind of screening: #1: I am a victim of being outed and harassed. #2: I have expercied the consequences of being outed and btw more than once. #3: I have clients who have been recently outed and suffered consequences. So if you sit back and think for minute.... I do encourage screening by using p411. This makes it easier for the girls and the guys. Is there a reason why you disagree with me encouraging screening through p411 rather than getting there drivers licences? Now flip note... by us providers choosing to being a escort we are playing russian roulette. There is NEVER a guarantee that if the guy gives you his license that is the guy who shows up at YOUR door! I personally have experienced this one recently... He used someone else's ID to see me..... NOTHING IS 100% EVER. SIDE NOTE: I DO REQUIRE SCREENING MYSELF. IF I CHOOSE NOT SCREEN SOMEONE... THEN THAT IS ON ME. NOT ANYONE ELSE. TO EACH THERE OWN. ITS THATS SIMPLE IN MY EYES. You have your op, and I have mine. Mine is now based on #1, #2, #3 being outed has changed my op. I do NOT discourage a screening site such as P411 and I do NOT personally ask for a drivers license. My point was you telling all the guys NEVER to give out personal info. You don't require it, others do. It would be like me telling ALL hookers to get personal info. What other hookers do is none of my business and I don't feel the need to tell them what they should and should not ask for nor will I tell ALL johns what they should and should not provide. I can read normal sized font so there was really no need to "shout" it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 I do NOT discourage a screening site such as P411 and I do NOT personally ask for a drivers license. My point was you telling all the guys NEVER to give out personal info. You don't require it, others do. It would be like me telling ALL hookers to get personal info. What other hookers do is none of my business and I don't feel the need to tell them what they should and should not ask for nor will I tell ALL johns what they should and should not provide. I can read normal sized font so there was really no need to "shout" it. Untwist your panties. She has the right to her opinion, and to voice it. You also have a right to your opinion, and you seem to have no hesitation in voicing it. Nikki has never been secretive about why she advises people to keep their private information private. If you disagree with her, ignore her and continue screening the way you see fit. She's not doing a disservice to hookers -- she's given very wise information and personal experience on this topic, and many of us appreciate her point of view. It doesn't affect you in any way. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 12, 2014 At least we know nikki's advice comes from a real hooker. Not sure where your's come from only that you claim to be a hooker. I trust a real hookers office over a maybe one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 13, 2014 It would be like me telling ALL hookers to get personal info. What other hookers do is none of my business and I don't feel the need to tell them what they should and should not ask for nor will I tell ALL johns what they should and should not provide. I can read normal sized font so there was really no need to "shout" it. Apprently you cant read. I have listed my reasons why I no longer engourage guys to give out there State Id'. It's no secret. Reason for being in bold letters. lol Here's the thing worksmartnothard, it's not my fault, nor is it my responsibility to teach other providers how to screen outside of state id. If other providers are unable to screen outside of asking for drivers license that is on them. All they have to do is get on any of the boards and ask for help. Someome one will help them. After being outed, I have learned “Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner.” - Lao Tzu .... You see, I dont care anymore.... esp when others dont care about me. I see as to bad, part of being hooker, I go about my day. Next...lol Don't you wish you cared a little less about what other people think? See many of us don't take a stance on things, (like I have) because we're scared of the criticism and the consequences we'll get in reaction. Apperently I am not scared of of the consequences becuase Iv already suffered them. There nothing else they can do me that hasnt already been done to me. So oh well! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
