Posted June 2, 2013 Got to stir the pot some more... Ok, despite what society thinks of me for participating in this activity I really enjoy it. I can't wait till my next rendezvous, and in between I enjoy trolling through the boards making a list and checking it twice. I've seen a thread where one man called men who participate in this activity as mysoginists. Personally, I have no hatred of women, with maybe the exception of my ex. I think women are great and though I am not in a rush, I cannot wait till I meet a special lady and become monogamous with her. But I feel that this whole thing is warping my thinking. In my line of work I see a lot of ladies, professionally. And at times Im like damn, bet she would make bank as a provider. Or damn is that so & so I saw on Escort boards??? So my question, to the men, do you feel that what you are doing is warping your impression of women? I know personally, I don't like that part of me. I do not want to become so jaded that I begin classifying all women as objects and not people. To the women, I have no real question. Weigh in what you want. Honestly, I think it takes a lot of courage and strength to do what you do. Again, let the JLC bashing begun in 1, 2, 3... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 As a "semi-hobbyist" (FBSM only), I was so naive before I started this and failed to realize that there were a legion of women willing to rub my body and bring me to orgasm. It kind of freaked me out. I was glad, but just mystified. That said, I also realize that the majority of women would run screaming in disgust at the very thought. So any "warping" of my perspective toward women has managed to be kept in check so far. Instead of warping, I realize that there are needs out there, and where there are needs there will always be those willing to fill those needs as a business opportunity. Bottom line, no warping. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) So you don't respect women anymore, shame on you! and another thing Stop trying to butter up all these escorts. Im sure it takes heaps of courage and strength. More like lots of lube and stamina. Unless there are some fire fighting escorts out there then I'm wrong Edited June 2, 2013 by macho Flabbergasted 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 So my question, to the men, do you feel that what you are doing is warping your impression of women? Why is banging hookers "warping"? Hookers are women, right? So, you're getting a slightly different sample of women. Or do you think that screwing Sally the working girl is dramatically different than banging Sally the secretary? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 That said, I also realize that the majority of women would run screaming in disgust at the very thought. Millions of women around the world would be delighted to take your money and provide sexual services in return. I completely don't get this idea that exchanging sex for money is this special and rare act. It's not. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 2Big "Or do you think that screwing Sally the working girl is dramatically different than banging Sally the secretary?" Could be the illegality of the factor. 'Banging' Sally the secretary is by all means enjoyable, but when you add the taboo factor it does add a bit of risk and thrill to an already exhilarating treat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 Banging Sally the secretary is going to get you an appointment with HR, followed by the boot and a lawsuit. Next thing you know, Sally's discussing your case on Oprah. I think I prefer the stripper. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 okay, i'll take the bait. i think guys do this for a variety of reasons unique to each individual. if they don't respect women to start off with (and you know who you are) then participating in this hobby becomes just a manifestation of that mindset, be she a secretary or a hooker. if, on the other hand, they revere women as wonderful creatures and their desires extend beyond just the physical act of getting off in itself, then that attitude also will be reflected in a session or a hot sex 'civilian' encounter. now, granted, you're more likely to become jaded over time by participating in the hobby because typically these types of encounters are primarily physical and not emotional - hence the warp. the meaninglessness and emptiness comes from a sad realization of that reality. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 Banging Sally the secretary is going to get you an appointment with HR, followed by the boot and a lawsuit. Next thing you know, Sally's discussing your case on Oprah. I think I prefer the stripper. Where are THUMBS when you need them. Very +1 on this one, 2Big. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 2, 2013 ... now, granted, you're more likely to become jaded over time by participating in the hobby because typically these types of encounters are primarily physical and not emotional - hence the warp. the meaninglessness and emptiness comes from a sad realization of that reality. I would have to agree with this statement. When I was married I visited escorts to avoid the possibility of an emotional entanglement which would threaten my primary relationship. We (the ASP & I) were both reminded of our boundaries by the transactional nature of the encounter. The essential goal was physical release. Over time and repeated engagements some YL have become friends, stretching those boundaries. Our friendship, like that with a co-worker, does not imperil that primary relationship. But escorts, with their more liberal attitudes and tolerance for fetishes, have jaded my views of sex. Civilian sex will just seem so - vanilla. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3, 2013 okay, i'll take the bait. i think guys do this for a variety of reasons unique to each individual. if they don't respect women to start off with (and you know who you are) then participating in this hobby becomes just a manifestation of that mindset, be she a secretary or a hooker. if, on the other hand, they revere women as wonderful creatures and their desires extend beyond just the physical act of getting off in itself, then that attitude also will be reflected in a session or a hot sex 'civilian' encounter. now, granted, you're more likely to become jaded over time by participating in the hobby because typically these types of encounters are primarily physical and not emotional - hence the warp. the meaninglessness and emptiness comes from a sad realization of that reality. I think you hit the nail on the head with the "meaningless and emptiness" comment. And "warped/jaded" is two sides of the same coin. When a woman moans "I love you" as she is coming hard, well, that will never happen with an ASP. At least I don't think it will. Hell, I don't even know if this is on topic. Forgive. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3, 2013 No, I don't feel that this is warping my impression of women. I'm jaded but that has more to do with my relationship and not this hobby. Don't get me wrong women are great but I don't think I'll ever do anything long term again. I don't understand how they think and I doubt I'll ever find a lady that can deal with my quirks long term. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3, 2013 hey Pit, i suspect with all that blood rushing from your auditory canal, you mis-heard her saying "I love IT" - altho i admit i've slipped a time or two myself 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3, 2013 Sally's discussing your case on Oprah. ...and the size of your dick with the others in the office. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2013 Hi... this macho. I just wanted to sorry for being cynical about the whole strength and courage. It's true. Some of these girls have more strength and courge then me. anyways Im not trying to glorify these girls. Im just saying im wrong. And most of these girls aren't members of this board. Just didn't want to take anything away from those people. Im just saying 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 6, 2013 Seeing the lovely ladies of this board over time has multiple effects. When new to the hobby, I was on cloud 9. After getting burned once or twice, I met a series of ladies that truly were fantastic. The sex was great. Getting to know some of the ladies even better (when I met a fantastic lady, I would visit multiple times. I got to know her, she got to know me. I've even met some of their kids away from sessions. Knowing the ladies even made the sex better). Over time, I became somewhat jaded. I loved the sessions, but trying to arrange time, hook up, screening, two call systems, hobby phone, etc just wore on me. These things are absolutely necessary for the ladies, but a big pain. I ended up seeing just one or two who I could call directly, knew where they lived, and avoid the rest. The hobby never affected my view of women. I love them. I respect them. Although I have been burned in two marriages, I'm a sucker for women. I believe the ASPs provide very vital services and deserve whatever the market will bear. I know they had a very positive effect on me when I needed the touch of a women. Now that I am free, I'll still see the ladies on occasion. However, I would much prefer a live in girlfriend. Someone who cares, who is around longer than a session. But in the meantime, the ladies of the board will keep me happy. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 6, 2013 Vital service? That seems to a little extreme. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 10, 2013 Is this series of "deep" questions for a thesis of some sort? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 11, 2013 I have had a history of great respect for women in this industry. Its not the sex so much as it is the intimacy. My atf recently decided that she is retiring and I so wish her well. But finding a replacement for her has been a real pain in the ass. Hard to replace the kind of openness and familiarity (not to mention the act itself) she brought to the table. By nature I am selfish and self-centered but I try to work on that whenever I can. That being said, I am kinda like a lost dog, sniffing around and pawing on a number of doors....looking for the chemistry that makes this "hobby" worthwhile 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
