Rising asset prices

[Bit Banger]

1 hour ago, frostyjack said:

.... It's not like we're going to band together and boycott hookers. 

That did happen in Austin a few years back.  The results were not pretty.  The first casualty was the friendly relationship between providers and clients on the local boards, breaking down into us vs. them conflicts.

DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN HERE!!!

[frostyjack]

6 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

That did happen in Austin a few years back.  The results were not pretty.  The first casualty was the friendly relationship between providers and clients on the local boards, breaking down into us vs. them conflicts.

DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN HERE!!!

Wow, really?! I mean, you would think that if its too expensive prices would eventually adjust naturally when clients stopped calling. It had to be a pretty toxic situation to take it to the point of getting organized.

[Kandi Apple]

7 hours ago, frostyjack said:

Wow, really?! I mean, you would think that if its too expensive prices would eventually adjust naturally when clients stopped calling. It had to be a pretty toxic situation to take it to the point of getting organized.

Rates are high to weed out the Weeds!

[Phil-anderer]

At some point we need to discuss the inflationary effects of rate threads themselves.

[Prayforrain]

The prices are high to make the guys think a little more rationally. A lot of ladies aren’t worth even the $100 qv, while others are easily worth more than the $1000+ for their time. Like any other purchase or product or service, you decide if it’s worth it, then do it or don’t. Or negotiate. Some ladies may be amenable to a lower rate, but that’s between you two. But I doubt that pissing and whining is going to cause any business woman on this board to suddenly think, “Wow, this guy is right! My prices are too high! I should ask for less and do more work!” But if there are any hot ladies who are passionate about doing this work for cheap, please private message my inbox immediately.

[Mandrewthe4th]

On 2/20/2021 at 10:32 AM, Prayforrain said:

 Like any other purchase or product or service, you decide if it’s worth it, then do it or don’t. Or negotiate. Some ladies may be amenable to a lower rate, but that’s between you two. But I doubt that pissing and whining is going to cause any business woman on this board to suddenly think, “Wow, this guy is right! My prices are too high! I should ask for less and do more work!” 

100% agree.  Goes both ways too, there's no way the "haggling" threads actually gets the lowballers to stop, well, lowballing.

As more and more people realize this is a business they will recognize that like all businesses, price negotiation is part of what you signed up for and hopefully we'll see these threads start to die off.  

Hell, my customers can't buy from our suppliers, and they know we get hit with a 7% increase every quarter.  Per the mentality of this board, every single one should take that increase and accept it.  But is that what happens?  Hell no - I get beat the fuck up on the pricing and then it ultimately comes down to who needs who more.  If I want their business, I'll hold the increase as low as possible for their pricing.  If they don't make it worth my while then either no discount or a TINY one.  Neither of us are bad for wanting to make sure we're being as financially responsible as possible, regardless of how annoying it is to get the question over and over and over again.

[Mandrewthe4th]

On 2/19/2021 at 11:18 PM, frostyjack said:

Wow, really?! I mean, you would think that if its too expensive prices would eventually adjust naturally when clients stopped calling. It had to be a pretty toxic situation to take it to the point of getting organized.

I think part of the problem is the market doesn't seem to adjust.  How many threads are there regarding hobbyists not wanting to pay listed rates?  

 

Edit:  tried to both replies in one comment but apparently I'm dumb

Edited February 22, 2021 by Mandrewthe4th
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[pfunk]

1 hour ago, Mandrewthe4th said:

I think part of the problem is the market doesn't seem to adjust.  How many threads are there regarding hobbyists not wanting to pay listed rates?  

I'd say you are correct.

Clients earn everything from $32,000 to $500,0000 yearly (or more).

For clients earning the larger amount, I'd imagine no escort is too expensive.

[Mandrewthe4th]

8 minutes ago, pfunk said:

I'd say you are correct.

Clients earn everything from $32,000 to $500,0000 yearly (or more).

For clients earning the larger amount, I'd imagine no escort is too expensive.

Agreed!  At a certain income level you can damn near get away with any expenditure you want.

I make nowhere near that 500k level.  I live in a condo (though I tell people it's an apartment), and manage my costs with a roommate.  This means that if I see a YL who I see charges $1000/hr then I can get away with meeting her if I feel the value would come back.  However, unless we're talking a Hollywood starlet then I'm probably not getting into that kind of rate.

With that in mind, I also feel like some of the threads we see are because people are unhappy to see anything below that $500k comp and have people try and negotiate to the $100k level.  I personally don't see that as "bad", given I get beat up on pricing daily.  What's crazy to me is that, unlike every other business, this is one where people don't expect or understand negotiation.

[BBT-8367]

1 hour ago, pfunk said:

I'd say you are correct.

Clients earn everything from $32,000 to $500,0000 yearly (or more).

For clients earning the larger amount, I'd imagine no escort is too expensive.

Some wealthy people do not go for the most expensive option

https://www.hotcars.com/billionaires-who-drive-cheap-cars/

And perhaps more relevant to this thread, let's not forget Hugh Grant (who was known for going with the low cost option).   While not a billionaire,  he probably  earned more than the larger amount that you cited at the time he was arrested more than 20 years ago.

[Mandrewthe4th]

58 minutes ago, BBT-8367 said:

Some wealthy people do not go for the most expensive option

https://www.hotcars.com/billionaires-who-drive-cheap-cars/

And perhaps more relevant to this thread, let's not forget Hugh Grant (who was known for going with the low cost option).   While not a billionaire,  he probably  earned more than the larger amount that you cited at the time he was arrested more than 20 years ago. 

Warren Buffet lives in the same house he bought in 1958, are you going to argue all billionaires live in homes they bought 60 years ago? Or can we recognize that some people are outliers and that the exception doesn't make the rule?

Just because *some* wealthy people don't splurge doesn't mean they don't have more discretionary income. Arguing anything other than that is not only silly, it's completely ignorant.

[BBT-8367]

2 hours ago, Mandrewthe4th said:

Warren Buffet lives in the same house he bought in 1958, are you going to argue all billionaires live in homes they bought 60 years ago? Or can we recognize that some people are outliers and that the exception doesn't make the rule?

Just because *some* wealthy people don't splurge doesn't mean they don't have more discretionary income. Arguing anything other than that is not only silly, it's completely ignorant.

I said "some" not "all" or even "most."  If anyone were to interpret "some" to mean "all" or "most," then that would be completely ignorant.  

You also implied that I was making some sort of argument and asked if I will be making an argument  regarding all billionaires.  My original post made no argument. I pointed to some facts regarding 21 billionaires with respect to some of their purchases.   The post demonstrated that some people do not go for the most  expensive option even if they have the means to do so.  That's true and factual.

You also stated

"Just because *some* wealthy people don't splurge doesn't mean they don't have more discretionary income."

Well, yes, wealthy people have more discretionary income.  That's the inherent nature of being wealthy. My post made no express or implied statement to the contrary.

P.S.  Warren Buffet had a 7.5 million dollar beach house, so he has lived with some luxury despite his reputation of being thrifty.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by BBT-8367
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[EricLindsey]

On 2/20/2021 at 6:41 AM, Kandi Apple said:

Rates are high to weed out the Weeds!

For clients earning the larger amount, that you cited at the time he was arrested. I'd imagine no escort is too expensive...