Client P411 Profile: Best Use of that Space?

[Boardmember]

Happy New Year, everyone. Sadly, one of my favorite providers is no longer available, so I'm likely finding myself back in the pool & hoping to connect with someone new -- unless I retire...

For me, that means reaching out to  a new provider via P411. Like many folks, I'm gratified when the provider has the time, inclination and is able to read my profile, but that doesn't actually seem to happen often. When it does, I take it as a very good sign.

My question for providers (and clients, too) is: what information do you find most useful in a profile's "Client Bio" section and do you read the narrative section of that? For what it is worth, I have actually spent a lot of time on mine -- yeah, yeah, I know -- but now wonder if it is ever read? Three tabs over and scroll all the way down that page. Who has time for that....? 

But, if you do read it, what is most helpful to have in that section? If not, why not?

Also, if a train leaves Cincinnati at 4:00 p.m. traveling 180 mph and a truck leaves Cleveland....

[Bit Banger]

Like you I spent a fair amount of time crafting my Client Profile. With all the talk of screening, I'm dismayed at the few number of providers who bother to even check it. (Yes, clients know when you ladies view our profile.) Those who do read my profile find some tips for turning the ordinary session into something special (which is what I look for in a lady's profile, reviews & board persona).

So I echo Boardmember's request. Help us improve this valuable tool. 

[Bora Bora]

Yes! input about this from the ladies would be very much appreciated.

[Audrey Astor]

My response may come off as "goody two shoes", but here it is:

I look for clothing preference---If the preferred choice is an cocktail dress, I don't want to answer the door nude. If the client states that he prefers black garter and stockings, and I have it, why not oblige? 

If the client's profile states that he has not drank alcohol in 10 years, it would be rather embarrassing for me, and uncomfortable to him for me to offer wine.

If he states, that he is not into DFK, it would be a little uncomfortable to have him stop me while sticking my tongue down his throat. 

If he likes a certain role play, that I am comfy  with, let's do it!

I also like the new area on the appointment request, that asks how you would prefer communication. Big help!

I am sorry that you have run across situations where your profile was not read or interpreted correctly. We get that on our side too, unfortunately. I think the bottom line is that most of us want to give you a memorable experience that you have been looking forward to enjoying. Although you should not have to, you might just include a note in your request indicating that certain "things" on your profile are important to you. I'm sure you are already looking at ladies that enjoy the same activities/demeanor as you. Good luck!

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Boardmember said:

Happy New Year, everyone. Sadly, one of my favorite providers is no longer available, so I'm likely finding myself back in the pool & hoping to connect with someone new -- unless I retire...

For me, that means reaching out to  a new provider via P411. Like many folks, I'm gratified when the provider has the time, inclination and is able to read my profile, but that doesn't actually seem to happen often. When it does, I take it as a very good sign.

My question for providers (and clients, too) is: what information do you find most useful in a profile's "Client Bio" section and do you read the narrative section of that? For what it is worth, I have actually spent a lot of time on mine -- yeah, yeah, I know -- but now wonder if it is ever read? Three tabs over and scroll all the way down that page. Who has time for that....? 

But, if you do read it, what is most helpful to have in that section? If not, why not?

Also, if a train leaves Cincinnati at 4:00 p.m. traveling 180 mph and a truck leaves Cleveland....

Girls like that are only for the moment. They are not interested in being your ATF. They are ok with seeing many men. Every hour on the hour. As they won't have a bunch of return clients. Since you boys can see weather or not the provider reads your profile. Very simple answer here. If you see she doesn't read it, as she should. Cancel on her. Don't bother telling her why. No need to create an unnecessary argument. Simply return the favor with the same kind of niceness she gave you. None! Simply move on to the next escort who takes the time and does read it.

The one who reads it. Is the one who pays attention to your desires and needs and wants. She is is the one deserving of your kindness and money. Hydrate with lust with those who actually read your BIO and want to get to know you and enjoy being your ATF. 

Edited January 2, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[Bora Bora]

In addition to the OP question and now that P411 removed the list of activities, do you think it's good to put in your Bio the list of activities you enjoy?

Something like:  "I my personal life I enjoy xxx and xxx. No comments needed but I hope you consider this in your decision".

 

 

[Bora Bora]

24 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

The one who reads it. Is the one who pays attention to your desires and needs and wants. She is is the one deserving of your kindness and money. Hydrate with lust with those who actually read your BIO and want to get to know you and enjoy being your ATF. 

Well said, Nikki!!

[Kaduk]

4 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Like you I spent a fair amount of time crafting my Client Profile. With all the talk of screening, I'm dismayed at the few number of providers who bother to even check it. (Yes, clients know when you ladies view our profile.) Those who do read my profile find some tips for turning the ordinary session into something special (which is what I look for in a lady's profile, reviews & board persona).

So I echo Boardmember's request. Help us improve the value of my tool. 

 

3 hours ago, Bora Bora said:

Yes! ladies input about mt tool would be very much appreciated.

Here I fixed for you guys....

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

. Since you boys can see weather or not the provider reads your profile. Very simple answer here. If you see she doesn't read it, as she should. Cancel on her. Don't bother telling her why. No need to create an unnecessary argument. Simply return the favor with the same kind of niceness she gave you. None! Simply move on to the next escort who takes the time and does read it.

Nikki, I understand what you are getting at here, and agree with the sentiment,  but disagree with the execution.  While it is true most ladies don't take the time to read profiles, I have had some read it just an hour or two before my appointment.

Having been busy myself, I understand the occasional need for last minute meeting prep.  And if I can help it, I would never cancel within a few hours of a meet. So, I go through with the date.  And even if she doesn't read my profile and bring the rubber chicken, I usually have a pretty good time.

3 hours ago, Audrey Astor said:

 

If he states, that he is not into DFK, 

 

Ok.  That's just crazy talk.   

I know that you are one of the ladies here that is fanatical about paying attention to details.  But us guys have been harping on this for years, to no avail.  It does not seem to effect the business of the ladies who don't bother, so why do you?

Is P411 not big enough to effect the market at all? Where's the carrot?  Where's the stick?

[Bit Banger]

31 minutes ago, Laplace said:

...

Is P411 not big enough to effect the market at all? Where's the carrot?  Where's the stick?

I suppose the stick is a variant of Nikki's strategy. If I haven't received the P411 email indicating that she's accessed my profile before she responds to my appointment request, then I should say, "Never mind. If you haven't read my profile, how do you know we're compatible?"  But that would discard hours of research on my part and likely get me branded as a fussy client. 😡

But hey, if they can't bother to read the text portion of the Appointment Request for special instructions, why should they bother reading about a client's likes & dislikes? (Yes, I've had this happen. The note had scheduling & contact details. Almost disrupted the date & did change it from Very Good to Average/do not repeat.). If he sent the request, he must have the $s. He has X# of OKs (included in the request).  It's all good! Right? 

The carrot?

- The option to improve the session rating a notch or two

- The chance to convert an initial session into a regular client or ATF  

- The opportunity to discover that you're incompatible prior to the session, with the ability to call the whole thing off before establishing the appointment

P411 may not be able to influence the majority of the general market, but it does address over 90% of my hobby choices. One of the deciding factors for yesterday's companion was that she had P411; the other choice didn't. (No, she didn't check my profile either.)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Laplace said:

Nikki, I understand what you are getting at here, and agree with the sentiment,  but disagree with the execution.  While it is true most ladies don't take the time to read profiles, I have had some read it just an hour or two before my appointment.

Having been busy myself, I understand the occasional need for last minute meeting prep.  And if I can help it, I would never cancel within a few hours of a meet. So, I go through with the date.  And even if she doesn't read my profile and bring the rubber chicken, I usually have a pretty good time.

But your not the escort providing the service, no need to make an excuse for laziness. That is just one of the differences between certain providers. Perhaps a provider reading a gentlemen's profile/bio is not as important to you. But, it is important to other men. Those men typically enjoy the finer things in life. Know what the difference feels like.  This is the difference between 5 to10 in service.

- How can a provider expect to be his ATF if she does not even pay attention to smallest and simple details, "like reading his BIO"?

 

Edited January 2, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[jj254-1]

Van Halen used to put a rider in their contracts stating they were to have a bowl full of MnMs in their dressing room with all of the brown ones removed. Crazy, right? But it was in the middle o the contract. They used it to tell if the venue read the damn thing and could meet the technical needs of their stage show. Should try that in the profile section...

[Guest]

Here is a perspective for info to help improve your profiles.....Fill them out(for you guys who haven't). There are so many guys who do not fill out their bio info. I always look at the different tabs for the basic info on facial hair etc, but when you scroll down, most guys leave this blank. I do not think you need to write your memoirs here, but your likes and dislikes are helpful. A lot of guys complain or ask about how to ask about services, well here ya go. IF you have a P411 check to make sure you have filled out the info on there. Like Bit and a few others, they took time to "craft" their profiles. You guys pay for this so use it.

NOW THEN, if you have done this and a provider hasn't taken the time to read it, well then that is on her. I agree with Nikki on this one with the exception of canceling. you could always let her know you would appreciate her reading it. Or hell make sure you mention that you would like her to read your entire bio when you send your appointment request. The quality ladies are going to take the time to read this. I know when I actually see one filled out, I feel like it gives me a sense of who I will be seeing. It also helps to see if we will not get along. So if a guy mentions that he loves a certain activity that I do not provide, I can let him know. Hey Joe I saw in your profile you said that you like the provider to stand on her head while chewing gum, but I do not offer that. If you would like to find another provider, I will understand. COMMUNICATION is key.

[Bora Bora]

On 1/4/2016 at 8:56 AM, Melissa Sterling said:

...I do not think you need to write your memoirs here, but your likes and dislikes are helpful. A lot of guys complain or ask about how to ask about services, well here ya go.

...I know when I actually see one filled out, I feel like it gives me a sense of who I will be seeing. It also helps to see if we will not get along. So if a guy mentions that he loves a certain activity that I do not provide, I can let him know. Hey Joe I saw in your profile you said that you like the provider to stand on her head while chewing gum, but I do not offer that. If you would like to find another provider, I will understand. COMMUNICATION is key.

Great! Thanks Melissa!

[amcbl1]

On 1/2/2016 at 9:15 AM, Audrey Astor said:

My response may come off as "goody two shoes", but here it is:

I look for clothing preference---If the preferred choice is an cocktail dress, I don't want to answer the door nude. If the client states that he prefers black garter and stockings, and I have it, why not oblige? 

If the client's profile states that he has not drank alcohol in 10 years, it would be rather embarrassing for me, and uncomfortable to him for me to offer wine.

If he states, that he is not into DFK, it would be a little uncomfortable to have him stop me while sticking my tongue down his throat. 

If he likes a certain role play, that I am comfy  with, let's do it!

I also like the new area on the appointment request, that asks how you would prefer communication. Big help!

I am sorry that you have run across situations where your profile was not read or interpreted correctly. We get that on our side too, unfortunately. I think the bottom line is that most of us want to give you a memorable experience that you have been looking forward to enjoying. Although you should not have to, you might just include a note in your request indicating that certain "things" on your profile are important to you. I'm sure you are already looking at ladies that enjoy the same activities/demeanor as you. Good luck!

 

On 1/4/2016 at 8:56 AM, Melissa Sterling said:

Here is a perspective for info to help improve your profiles.....Fill them out(for you guys who haven't). There are so many guys who do not fill out their bio info. I always look at the different tabs for the basic info on facial hair etc, but when you scroll down, most guys leave this blank. I do not think you need to write your memoirs here, but your likes and dislikes are helpful. A lot of guys complain or ask about how to ask about services, well here ya go. IF you have a P411 check to make sure you have filled out the info on there. Like Bit and a few others, they took time to "craft" their profiles. You guys pay for this so use it.

NOW THEN, if you have done this and a provider hasn't taken the time to read it, well then that is on her. I agree with Nikki on this one with the exception of canceling. you could always let her know you would appreciate her reading it. Or hell make sure you mention that you would like her to read your entire bio when you send your appointment request. The quality ladies are going to take the time to read this. I know when I actually see one filled out, I feel like it gives me a sense of who I will be seeing. It also helps to see if we will not get along. So if a guy mentions that he loves a certain activity that I do not provide, I can let him know. Hey Joe I saw in your profile you said that you like the provider to stand on her head while chewing gum, but I do not offer that. If you would like to find another provider, I will understand. COMMUNICATION is key.

I've found that most p411 providers track my profile to verify the okays rather than read the entire profile.  My particular profile doesn't include everything I'm interested in but offers just a general overall view of what pleases me.

On 1/2/2016 at 10:32 AM, Bora Bora said:

In addition to the OP question and now that P411 removed the list of activities, do you think it's good to put in your Bio the list of activities you enjoy?

Something like:  "I my personal life I enjoy xxx and xxx. No comments needed but I hope you consider this in your decision".

 

 

I don't get too explicit as far as my adult fantasies go. That's why I read reviews on this and other boards to see if the provider will cater to those fantasies.