Posted February 18, 2013 I don't know if you've noticed or not but there have been a deluge of new Providers to Colorado. As a behaviorist I started to wonder why. After talking to a number of highly experience long time Providers in the Denver area I finally found out why. It seems that Colorado boys are nice guys and easy to rip off. I read and heard numerous hobbyist talk about being ripped off and taking one for the team. That's all fine and well but we work hard for our money and even harder to keep it away from wives and girlfriends. So here's a little advice. Use reputable website (P411, Escortphotos.net, Escortboards.net, etc) While p411 may cost you approx. $10.00 monthly, its worth every cent. The great thing about P411 is that it will tell you exactly what the Providers will and will not do. Takes all of the guess work out of wondering if she likes DATY or will do UTF, you'll know before you get there. I've only had one bad experience with someone who kept putting me off (there a thread running on her as we speak, it appears that I wasn't the only one). While I've had at least 5 bad experiences using backpage. Their are some very reputable Providers on backpage (a number of Providers on backpage also use P411), however before I would contact one, use TOB or other Provider review websites to see if they have reviews. My motto is if they don't have reviews I don't call them. Additionally if you have been ripped off let the other hobbyist know. At any rate let's stop be Mr Nice Guy, making money is hard don't throw it away. You thoughts 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 Thanks for the PSA/analysis. Good advice. Can't be too careful. Support reputable, known providers on familar, safe venues! Work even harder to keep $ away from wives and GFs - LOL, ya, for sure. If you're going to partake in a risky hobby, be conservative about it! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 So did the 5 bad BP girls you saw have reviews? I've met some amazing ladies and never needed p411 to do it. I'm not adverse to getting advice, but i rarely accept advice from someone i've never heard of before. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 It is not about Colorado boys being nice or an easy target. Colorado Jons are known for being cheap, with that said just because a lady reviews states she does this and that does not mean with everyone, YMMV. Does it mean she is a rip off no it means she was not feeling you for whatever reason Because this business breeds all sort of people you will from time to time run into someone who will try you on for size. P411 EB, EP is a small pond and the fishers get tried of catching the same old trout. So either you stay with the same ole same ole or you get out of the game. But what fun is that you might as well stay with the old ball and chain. Variety is the name of the Game. lilithia 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 Ditto for me. If you treat the women like you should they will treat you right. Variety is the spice of life. "trout" cracked me up. I will remember that comment from now on. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 It is not about Colorado boys being nice or an easy target. Colorado Jons are known for being cheap If this were as big a problem with Colorado boys as you say.....wouldn't that drive away new providers rather than attract them? P411 EB, EP is a small pond and the fishers get tried of catching the same old trout. There are over 250 providers listed in Colo on P411. Sometimes close to 50 more in Nebr next door. I'm in my mid 50s. Assuming I see Two new providers a month, It would take me 'till I'm nearly 70 to "catch all the trout." Since I also have favs that treat me very well....my sampling rate is going to be much lower than 25 a year. I'll call you back when I'm 80 and let you know if I'm bored with P411 yet. I don't know if you've noticed or not but there have been a deluge of new Providers to Colorado. As a behaviorist I started to wonder why. After talking to a number of highly experience long time Providers in the Denver area I finally found out why. It seems that Colorado boys are nice guys and easy to rip off. I read and heard numerous hobbyist talk about being ripped off Yeah, you really have to watch yourself. On numerous occasions I've entered a room with hundreds of dollars in my pocket. The ladies do all these things to distract me, and after I've left the money is always gone. It's shameful. There oughtta be a law. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 I don't know if you've noticed or not but there have been a deluge of new Providers to Colorado. As a behaviorist I started to wonder why. After talking to a number of highly experience long time Providers in the Denver area I finally found out why. It seems that Colorado boys are nice guys and easy to rip off. I read and heard numerous hobbyist talk about being ripped off and taking one for the team. That's all fine and well but we work hard for our money and even harder to keep it away from wives and girlfriends. So here's a little advice. Use reputable website (P411, Escortphotos.net, Escortboards.net, etc) While p411 may cost you approx. $10.00 monthly, its worth every cent. The great thing about P411 is that it will tell you exactly what the Providers will and will not do. Takes all of the guess work out of wondering if she likes DATY or will do UTF, you'll know before you get there. I've only had one bad experience with someone who kept putting me off (there a thread running on her as we speak, it appears that I wasn't the only one). While I've had at least 5 bad experiences using backpage. Their are some very reputable Providers on backpage (a number of Providers on backpage also use P411), however before I would contact one, use TOB or other Provider review websites to see if they have reviews. My motto is if they don't have reviews I don't call them. Additionally if you have been ripped off let the other hobbyist know. At any rate let's stop be Mr Nice Guy, making money is hard don't throw it away. You thoughts If this was how it was done we wouldn't have any reviews to begin with. this is not like the chicken and the egg, the ASP came before the ASP reviews. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 ...if you have been ripped off let the other hobbyist know. At any rate let's stop be Mr Nice Guy, making money is hard don't throw it away. Well, totally agree with this. However... P411 EB, EP is a small pond [...] Variety is the name of the Game. There's a bit of the rub. Not many folks know of the review sites. And when they do, they don't use it. Eg. Saw a review today, where if the reviewer had run the phone number over the discussion board, would have turned up several threads about it being a rip-off. And if sticking to the "tried and true", it does get old, for both parties (ie. provider starts acting like one's ex-wife and pulls the ASP equivalent of "I have a headache"; we need reviews for those as well, fyi). I've met some amazing ladies and never needed p411 to do it. Ditto. Per the 411 threads on the board, bad reviews on the board, and some of the OP theory, lots of guys dumb guys out there that don't think: think that the Playboy-like model is really in Denver doing a $100 special. And lazy: those that know of this board, have been told about things like TinEye, Google Image search, searching on a phone number, yet, keep being lazy and stupid and getting reeled in. My guess, it just isn't Denver that has this issue re: BP scammers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 I don't know if you've noticed or not but there have been a deluge of new Providers to Colorado. As a behaviorist I started to wonder why. After talking to a number of highly experience long time Providers in the Denver area I finally found out why. It seems that Colorado boys are nice guys and easy to rip off. I read and heard numerous hobbyist talk about being ripped off and taking one for the team. That's all fine and well but we work hard for our money and even harder to keep it away from wives and girlfriends. So here's a little advice. Use reputable website (P411, Escortphotos.net, Escortboards.net, etc) While p411 may cost you approx. $10.00 monthly, its worth every cent. The great thing about P411 is that it will tell you exactly what the Providers will and will not do. Takes all of the guess work out of wondering if she likes DATY or will do UTF, you'll know before you get there. I've only had one bad experience with someone who kept putting me off (there a thread running on her as we speak, it appears that I wasn't the only one). While I've had at least 5 bad experiences using backpage. Their are some very reputable Providers on backpage (a number of Providers on backpage also use P411), however before I would contact one, use TOB or other Provider review websites to see if they have reviews. My motto is if they don't have reviews I don't call them. Additionally if you have been ripped off let the other hobbyist know. At any rate let's stop be Mr Nice Guy, making money is hard don't throw it away. You thoughts OK, I can't take it any more. For those that espouse this theory and suggest that we all rigidly follow it, I must ask - what if everyone only saw reviewed ladies? Answer: In a few years due to retirement, moving on, age, etc. the "acceptable" pool will be down to a handful of middle age ladies with serious delusions of entitlement. No new providers would ever get a chance and things would get mega boring in a hurry. For newbies, good advice. But learn the tools repeatedly stated and available here for detecting scams and rip-offs, etc. and learn how to temporarily put the little head in park when making selections. You will be fine and the pool of talent will grow and remain healthy. End of rant. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 Gentlemen, don't feel like the lone ranger here. This goes more then one way. We are constantly getting the bullshit too. I cannot tell you how many times my advertised rate has been short 20- 40 bucks. Or how many times these "nice" guys try to slip in without a condom. Or try backdoor, which is not something I place high in my priority list. Or my phone rings at 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the A.M. And my adds all clearly what time to not be calling. Face it, the facts of life now include-scammers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 19, 2013 It is not about Colorado boys being nice or an easy target. Colorado Jons are known for being savvy shoppers There, I fixed it for ya. with that said just because a lady reviews states she does this and that does not mean with everyone, YMMV. Does it mean she is a rip off no it means she was not feeling you for whatever reason I guess, I'm not feelin' it either, so I left my Dead Presidents at home. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 21, 2013 Gentlemen, don't feel like the lone ranger here. This goes more then one way. We are constantly getting the bullshit too. I cannot tell you how many times my advertised rate has been short 20- 40 bucks. Or how many times these "nice" guys try to slip in without a condom. Or try backdoor, which is not something I place high in my priority list. Or my phone rings at 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the A.M. And my adds all clearly what time to not be calling. Face it, the facts of life now include-scammers. A-fucking-men! You take the good with the bad in this industry. It's a risk we all take, on both sides of the fence. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
