Posted March 2, 2015 So i am def a newbie and looking at TOB reviews and EscortBoards.net, BP seems to have most of the variety I can hope for in COS.... Saying that I plan on TOFTT. What should I avoid if I can't find a review and photo's seem legit? One other thing is I am looking for Outcall only at my personal residence. Any advice is helpful thanks!! Also it seems there is no proper way to figure out services before the meet, anything that you guys look for in the ad to hint at what you are looking for? Personally I am looking for Full w/ bJ and good amount of kissing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 So i am def a newbie and looking at TOB reviews and EscortBoards.net, BP seems to have most of the variety I can hope for in COS.... Saying that I plan on TOFTT. What should I avoid if I can't find a review and photo's seem legit? One other thing is I am looking for Outcall only at my personal residence. Any advice is helpful thanks!! Also it seems there is no proper way to figure out services before the meet, anything that you guys look for in the ad to hint at what you are looking for? Personally I am looking for Full w/ bJ and good amount of kissing. You want to bring an unknown entity to your home? Oh my. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 That does sound bad... figured risk was equal for both parties although 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 That does sound bad... figured risk was equal for both parties although So you're going to know where she lives too? if she gets upset (goes batshit crazy) about something she can come visit you anytime she feels like it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 There are a lot of recent reviews on TOB in the Springs. If this is a first time for you a strongly recommend going with someone in one of those reviews. If you are going to call someone off BP, with no reviews for your first session, you should not invite her to your home. You are really asking for trouble. We all had to take the leap and get our feet wet once, but you are really tempting fate to do it the way you are talking about. When I first started to hobby I hadn't found this board yet. I took some risks that I would not have taken had I found this board soon. I was lucks and nothing really bad happened, but I wish I had access to the wisdom of some on this board. You're lucky you found this board early. Take advantage of it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 So i am def a newbie and looking at TOB reviews and EscortBoards.net, BP seems to have most of the variety I can hope for in COS.... Saying that I plan on TOFTT. What should I avoid if I can't find a review and photo's seem legit? One other thing is I am looking for Outcall only at my personal residence. Any advice is helpful thanks!! Also it seems there is no proper way to figure out services before the meet, anything that you guys look for in the ad to hint at what you are looking for? Personally I am looking for Full w/ bJ and good amount of kissing. As others have said, do NOT do outcall. Even with a well reviewed provider. That being said, I don't think there is any such thing as "photos seem legit". Sure, some ads have photos that obviously look stolen from a professional porn site or whatever, but photos can be stolen from other BP ads. This means that even a legit-looking photo could be anything but. Don't ask for correlation between subtle ad hints and offered services. There's too much room for error, and besides: that seems like a question LE would ask, and with less than 5 posts, we just don't know for sure about you. Good luck. And remember, don't give too much info, and DON'T do outcalls unless you have nothing to lose. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Quite frankly, you don't need to TOFTT at all to get what you asked for in your original post. There is a very lovely, busty lady in the springs with an ad on EB right this minute. She has outstanding reviews, too. She's about as safe and trustworthy as you are going to find. Just saying. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 great points. Thanks for the advice... which is why i asked. I guess I only looked at it as the provider is risking themselves by walking into a house she doesn't know. Never was to worried about myself really. Of course I could get robbed but I never thought about even if everything goes fine right now what about tomorrow or so on... Could case my place easily. And even tho i have tried the asian massage places this would be my first time taking this route. BTW still learning all the acronyms and still don't know what LE means lol 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Wait i get it local Enforcement? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 So you're going to know where she lives too? if she gets upset (goes batshit crazy) about something she can come visit you anytime she feels like it. Hmmm, I guess I'm doing something wrong since I keep getting asked for OC and I haven't gone batshit crazy on anyone. Wait i get it local Enforcement? Yes 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 So i am def a newbie and looking at TOB reviews and EscortBoards.net, BP seems to have most of the variety I can hope for in COS.... I can't believe no one suggested p411 yet. There are many very fine ladies to be found there. BP has way too many land mines to just jump into until you get a feel for the lay of the land. Once you know exactly what you are doing there are a few VERY legit ladies that only advertise there. But a newbie diving in headlong, better set aside some money for attorney fees! Saying that I plan on TOFTT. What should I avoid if I can't find a review and photo's seem legit? One other thing is I am looking for Outcall only at my personal residence. Any advice is helpful thanks!! Personal opinion is that outcall to your residence should only be considered with ladies you have already seen and have good reason to believe you can trust. Many, many things can go wrong with BP unknowns including robbery, outing, black mail. If that TOFTT babe off BP is trolling for victims you will take one alright - straight up the ass and the "team" will not help or care. Also it seems there is no proper way to figure out services before the meet, anything that you guys look for in the ad to hint at what you are looking for? Personally I am looking for Full w/ bJ and good amount of kissing. If reviews make you feel comfy, they should give some idea of services. If a lady has 10 reviews and every last one says TF you should not expect UTF. But reviews and activities listed in ads, etc. are NOT a guarantee of service for YOU .... just an indication of what may be possible if you are clean, polite, etc. and make her feel comfortable with you. No one but you knows what you stand to lose if outed or arrested and therefore no one but you can identify the level of risk you are willing to take. There is no such thing as zero risk in this endeavor. Lastly, (or firstly really) check the FAQ section of the board for very detailed suggestions for newbies and learn how to do your own research. Good luck and have fun. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 great points. Thanks for the advice... which is why i asked. I guess I only looked at it as the provider is risking themselves by walking into a house she doesn't know. Never was to worried about myself really. Of course I could get robbed but I never thought about even if everything goes fine right now what about tomorrow or so on... Could case my place easily. And even tho i have tried the asian massage places this would be my first time taking this route. BTW still learning all the acronyms and still don't know what LE means lol Take the advice of the others who have responded already. Do not invite any provider to your home that you don't already know and trust (and, even then, I personally wouldn't do it). Do not give any provider your personal phone number or email address (or name of your employer, Facebook page, etc.). Get a hobby phone and a hobby email. Like, right now.BP is FULL FULL FULL of frauds (I can speak from much direct experience here). If you are going to full-on TOFTT with an unknown BP provider, at least do it in the most anonymous way possible.P411 works for a lot of people (not me, but others here like it). Sounds like it would work for you. And will save you a lot of trouble, in the long run. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 As others have said, do NOT do outcall. Even with a well reviewed provider Gee, I have a solid review history and have never gone batshit crazy or harassed anyone. not all providers are vindictive. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 BP is FULL FULL FULL of frauds (I can speak from much direct experience here). If you are going to full-on TOFTT with an unknown BP provider, at least do it in the most anonymous way possible. I've never TOFTT from BP but my observation is that they guys who do it are willing to take on more risk. I figure it's a personality thing - wading through trash to find treasure, thrill of the hunt, higher tolerance for disappointment and failure. I'd say you've got balls of brass to do that as a newbie. If it's outcall only and your little head absolutely cannot let you think straight, you should pay for a room. Of course, that can create other issues with privacy but those can be managed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Also it seems there is no proper way to figure out services before the meet, anything that you guys look for in the ad to hint at what you are looking for? Personally I am looking for Full w/ bJ and good amount of kissing. Absolutely no way to know for sure. That's why it's called TOFTT :rolleyes: You git what you git and you don't throw a fit (familiar phrase to parents) Oh and especially kissing - along with UTF, kissing is one of those services that is often limited or not available from my POV on BP 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Just an update I was already looking and attempting to make appts. at the time I posted this and I think the only thing I did right was use a burner phone. Luckily my TOFTT went well. I will continue to be worried in the back of my mind since I did use my personal residence, I only hope my luck holds out. I won't TOFTT again at my spot but I can see doing again at incall... Saying that, Im not saying it will be a regular thing for me but I can see trying if I feel everything seems ok. I plan on sticking with the verified for a while but I'd be kidding myself if i say never again (never again TOFTT at my house is a solid statement however). Then again if the person I do plan on contacting next time turns out to be exactly what i am looking for I will also be less inclined to test the waters. All of your advice as been priceless and should help me stay safe as I hobby. Thanks again. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Wait i get it local Enforcement? Law 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 Who said they were? Have I ever heard of a well reviewed provider going bat shit crazy on someone? Yes, absolutely. It has happened in THIS board. I never said all providers are vindictive. If that's what you take from this thread, you're not reading it properly. The advice to the OP to be careful about outcalls is very good advice. I'll admit, I used to have outcalls, and have never had a problem. But I HAVE witnessed well regarded ASP's losing their shit, and that was enough for me never to do another outcall. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 The point is just because you "heard" of someone having a bad experience doesn't mean he shouldn't do an outcall. You could have made a recommendation, but you lumped all providers together by saying you "heard" it happened to someone else. This just proves that one bad apple spoils the bunch. The fact that you never had a problem, proves that not everyone is crazy. I know, I know, you didn't say that, but you did in fact infer it. Don't get me wrong, there are VERY few ladies I would even recommend in this town, but some of us are pretty damn solid. How about for a change you have something positive to say about the ladies. you must have been fucked over really hard to be so jaded. Then again, I never see any reviews by you, so where do you get your expertise from? Oh yeah you HEARD it. I really wish you guys would write this crap in the reviews. If it is such a problem why not do something about it. I heard this, I heard that does nothing except hurt the hobby. Drama GEEZ! I miss the old days. If girls were that bad, everyone knew about it and poof, they disappeared. Nobody called them because they earned a bad reputation. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 3, 2015 For the record, I didn't HEAR about it - I saw it happen, right here on this board. Just because my reviews are under a different handle (I'm not explaining that one again, look up that discussion from my posting history if you want to know so badly), doesn't mean my experience is any less valuable than yours. I've seen it all - twice - and I've seen enough to know never to do another outcall, no matter who she is. Lastly, I didn't lump anyone together - that was your interpretation. Yes, there are many upstanding and conscientious ASP's, but you play enough roulette, you're going to eventually regret it. That's the point I was trying to convey. You don't have to like it, but it's still true. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 4, 2015 So i am def a newbie....BP seems to have most of the variety....Saying that I plan on TOFTT. Why in the world would you wish to TOFTT?? But if you must, you're certainly proceeding along the correct lines. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14, 2015 I have been a hobbyist in COS for 15 years and always to outcalls to my home in a residential neighborhood. I have never never had any problems. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 19, 2015 Well, thank you for doing TOFTT for our town. Cheers! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 19, 2015 As others have said, do NOT do outcall. Even with a well reviewed provider. Good luck. And remember, don't give too much info, and DON'T do outcalls unless you have nothing to lose. av8r I took your comments the same way as M.S. did. You as well as a few others on this board seem to be down right sour towards the hobby. The day that I am is the day I stop for sure. No need in sticking around to spread misery. To the OP use these board as a guideline ONLY pick up a few tools filter the horseshit and enjoy. I personally have had ladies come to my home and never had anything happen we parted ways happy. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) I live in COS. Personally, I only do incalls, and I only go with providers who I've read reviews on, mostly ones with multiple reviews. I have enough experience here to know that MANY of the providers in this area are not so great. there are some real good providers here. MOST predominantly advertise on BP. You have to google search every phone number and research takes a while sometimes. You find some troubling things sometimes doing google searches and following review trends.... I don't do outcall because of crazies and their pimps/boyfriends. I have memberships in basically all of the major review sites, some providers you figure out are legit by the consistency of their ads over long periods of time. Many of the poor providers are continually changing their numbers out, because they probably burn a lot of clients or have bad reviews. Use Tineye, it will show the frauds quickly in most cases. Be very aware that CSPD and other agencies frequently post ads using "limited time" "last night in town"... etc. pressure tactics. Also be sure when running google searches to follow the trails. Some providers work a circuit and are actually good finds, you can go to their other ad cities and look on TER or Eccie.net and many times find out if they are legit. I generally only check out providers who use local area codes to Denver or COS, but I will not risk non-reviewed ones. There are fantastic providers available through P411. I have had very good luck with well reviewed providers on TOB. Common sense prevails, when doing incall go in with ONLY your agreed upon donation. Maybe a small tip or a buffer for upselling, I personally will walk out on an upsell though. Don't take any jewelry in there. Robberies are a real threat. I don't ever take my wallet or any personal identifier in with me. I NEVER, EVER use my real name unless it has been worked out prior or you KNOW that the provider is good (i.e. many consistent and good reviews). Also, it doesn't hurt to ask other clients on boards like this one. Just be aware that one man's beautiful is another man's bridge troll that eats unsuspecting children as they walk across their bridge. I hope my $.02 helps. Good journeys. One last thing, Attitude is everything. The BEST experiences with providers you will have are those with providers that have good attitudes. I talk to them on the phone, if they sound doped up, uncaring, or otherwise disconnected, you'll probably have a bad time. Personable, sweet, and bubbly are normally the best time. For me attitude is EVERYTHING i seek in a good provider experience. Edited April 3, 2015 by InterestedinCOS forgot something, lol 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 3, 2015 I live in COS. Personally, I only do incalls, and I only go with providers who I've read reviews on, mostly ones with multiple reviews. I have enough experience here to know that MANY of the providers in this area are not so great. there are some real good providers here. MOST predominantly advertise on BP. You have to google search every phone number and research takes a while sometimes. You find some troubling things sometimes doing google searches and following review trends.... I don't do outcall because of crazies and their pimps/boyfriends. I have memberships in basically all of the major review sites, some providers you figure out are legit by the consistency of their ads over long periods of time. Many of the poor providers are continually changing their numbers out, because they probably burn a lot of clients or have bad reviews. Use Tineye, it will show the frauds quickly in most cases. Be very aware that CSPD and other agencies frequently post ads using "limited time" "last night in town"... etc. pressure tactics. Also be sure when running google searches to follow the trails. Some providers work a circuit and are actually good finds, you can go to their other ad cities and look on TER or Eccie.net and many times find out if they are legit. I generally only check out providers who use local area codes to Denver or COS, but I will not risk non-reviewed ones. There are fantastic providers available through P411. I have had very good luck with well reviewed providers on TOB. Common sense prevails, when doing incall go in with ONLY your agreed upon donation. Maybe a small tip or a buffer for upselling, I personally will walk out on an upsell though. Don't take any jewelry in there. Robberies are a real threat. I don't ever take my wallet or any personal identifier in with me. I NEVER, EVER use my real name unless it has been worked out prior or you KNOW that the provider is good (i.e. many consistent and good reviews). Also, it doesn't hurt to ask other clients on boards like this one. Just be aware that one man's beautiful is another man's bridge troll that eats unsuspecting children as they walk across their bridge. I hope my $.02 helps. Good journeys. One last thing, Attitude is everything. The BEST experiences with providers you will have are those with providers that have good attitudes. I talk to them on the phone, if they sound doped up, uncaring, or otherwise disconnected, you'll probably have a bad time. Personable, sweet, and bubbly are normally the best time. For me attitude is EVERYTHING i seek in a good provider experience. ^^^^^^^^^^ This. All great advice. Well said. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 7, 2015 First time back in a while... still no issue on my outcall. But again probably won't risk again. Lots of great advice thank you all!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Hmmm, I guess I'm doing something wrong since I keep getting asked for OC and I haven't gone batshit crazy on anyone. ^this^ Gee, I have a solid review history and have never gone batshit crazy or harassed anyone. not all providers are vindictive. ^and this^ quoting Melissa,,,,formatting is not working when I first started, I received many requests for oc from first timers. I had and have no reviews. I only post on bp. no issues. I guess the only consistent practice that I can point to is that we both had a phone conversation to get to know each other a little better. most of my clients have SO's so they are risking a lot to see me and the experiences that we have together are that much more valuable. I know outcalls and giving personal information are highly discouraged here but I just wanted to weigh in from someone else with personal experience of having no problems. I once thought I was one of the lucky ones but lots of us have clients who can claim no problems. definitely do what's right for you. Edited April 8, 2015 by lola format 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
