A Questions for the Guy's

[Jez UaBriain]

Meh. We'll see. I don't get out much. I guarantee if you took a poll of the providers here, the consensus would be "Who's that guy?" It's not like I'm sharing this stuff with a lot of people. And I trust the ones I do.

I look at screening merely as a way to make us both comfortable enough to see each other. And generally a provider reference take care of that.I don't care who you work for, nor do I care if I don't know your real name....

......If I should happen to ask you about your job, then that is because you are

dryer then a popcorn fart personality wise, and I am trying to find you in the-re somewhere. ..............

............I like to hear a man's voice before I see him. Hoe-dar is the best for screening. I follow my gut instinct first, foremost AND always. And so far, I have not ever steered myself wrongly where clients are concrtned.

[frankenthaler91]

Me.

I'm that guy. And all I did was post something the lady didn't like.

Listen to Boink.

He knows.

I'm not "that guy". But I know of someone that is. I suggest anyone that doesn't think this is a threat to look at the NBL. Any name that is listed there, type it into a search engine. Then you will see who has been royally screwed.

[Guest]

Me.

I'm that guy. And all I did was post something the lady didn't like.

Listen to Boink.

He knows.

Well. Hum. I certainly don't pretend to know everything. Thanks for the food for thought.

I don't know. I guess these are all the reasons I don't get out much. This kind of stress relief can be too stressful. My experience in life has generally been, if you're cool with people, they're cool with you. But I know it doesn't always work that way. And I certainly have plenty to lose if someone wanted to screw me. Maybe I've just been lucky so far. Maybe I'd be wise not to stick my neck out at all.

[sparkey600]

As far a screening, I think whatever makes the lady relaxed is ok with me.

I for one have very little to hide. Most men, however have SO's that would have a problem with them playing in the hobby, and I understand that 100%.

So in MHU, I guess it becomes a balance of what makes the provider comfy enough to meet someone they really do not know and the potental customer becoming a regular.

Kind of a twisted catch 22.

[sparkey600]

Very well put pretty lady.

[Needndiscreet]

I have not been around for a while, so hello to all. This question has come up before.

If a gentleman does his research, then he has all the information he needs to feel comfortable with his selection. She needs to feel equally comfortable.

If we are to share the ultimate in intimacy, then the client should fulfill her request, within reason. I have always used my real name. I have found a level of trust makes things a lot more fun.

I don't have P411 any more, but it is the way to go. I would like to get back into the game, so I guess I will need to start over.

[Vic Kosslovich]

I'm probably in a minority, but I don't mind screening. A buddy of mine was just getting started in the hobby and asked me about screening. It made me sit down and think (in more detail) about how and why the girls screen. The more thought I put into it the more I realized how important it is for the ladies. I'm not about to give you my SSN, and I use P411 to ease the process.

Vic

[MikeInCOSprings]

I value my privacy and anonymity, and understand that providers do the same. I won't give my name or work info out, nor would I expect a provider to share their personal info with me. There are way too many providers that will don't require such details for me to take that risk with the few that do. When requested, I share references and/or share my past reviews, and I usually only visit girls that either have some reviews or some other way of me getting a certain level of comfort.

FWIW, probably the biggest reason why I won't share my info is the fear of somebody holding on to it, getting busted or blackmailed, and then giving my info out. I have no way of knowing whether they properly dispose of my info, so it's just not worth it to give it out.

All of this being said, I can understand why many providers do want it. But given the many providers that don't require it, I simply make the choice to give my business to the latter.

[Guest]

I know my response is a bit late, I apologize but I think ladies should always look at your profile as well as your reviews to see if this guy is someone they would like to see. It gives me an idea if our personalities will match up thus I no what my guy likes dislikes before he gets here.. As far as your blacklisting goes I know that there are some providers who would post something outta spite so I weigh that like this the guy has how many ok's and only one black list hit then he is probably fine.

Boink has it right, but I'm a little more cautious since being burned. If this is not good enough, I apologize for taking up the ladies time and move on.

Question back to the lovely Yesenia: When contacted thru P411, why don't the ladies avail themselves of the wealth of info I've posted about myself? About half of the ladies I contact this way just see my 25+ ok listing and say yes without ever checking my profile. A quarter say yes after looking at my profile. Interestingly, the remaing quarter not only examine my profile, but screen deeply enough to find my blacklisting. Half of those contact me for an explanation, and agree to see me upon getting it. The other half just never respond again.

I've never failed to get an ok from a lady I've seen, including the little lady who put me on the list. It would seem that some ladies screening process is producing false negatives.

[sparkey600]

I tend to do a lot of homework.

That said, I really don't worry too much about the verification process.

If it makes the provider comfy, then it's all good.

However, that does not mean I'm going to give you the names of the kids or my SS

# either. There is a balance, and figuring that out comes with experience.

I never give out more than I am comfortable with doing.

[Guest]

Here is my question, you guys don't want to give personal info because of certain ladies and their indiscretions

I honestly can not blame the guys. This is why I am teaching all the newbies, who do provide information, that come and see me to never give out there information ever again. Its not worth the risk.

so why are ladies supposed to rely on other ladies for references? If you don't trust them why should we?

After being burned, set up and outed on many differently levels, by local providers, I will never be fooled into giving out my personal information.

Nor will I be fooled into becoming another providers friend either. As she may turn on you in split second for no legit reason. Shit hits the fan. By doing so, your giving them the opportunity to destroy and ruin your entire life if something goes wrong.

Good question. There must be some ladies you trust. Surely you would accept references from them?

I'm just guessing, but having a good peer-to-peer relationships with other members of your provider community would seem to be very important. If you poisoned that relationship in any way, I can see where it would make using references much more difficult and dangerous. Ultimately, everyone must do what they need to feel safe.

There are providers who have given Law Enforcement references. Girls have gotten busted. Probably not a good idea to except references.

[Servius]

Never give out personal info to someone you do not know, and you do not know them based on their posts, email, texts, websites, or someone's reviews (often enough just personal Valentines and kiss-ass, endorphin-driven assessments ).

Providers: never see someone without personal references, preferably more than one experience with him. Work info etc. sounds safer than it is: it can be bogus. LE is on to that, and frankly, it says nothing about another's safety or integrity. And the concept of mutually-assured destruction is overrated when it comes to safety.

So what is a newbie to do? Take a risk. Do the most research you can. Best, get a hobbyist you know to refer you to someone to develop a reference. That is all you can do. Unfortunately, there are always providers who will take people without adequate references. But no provider should. Ever.

What Boink said. Period.

[gimmyg]

My take on this - From what I've experienced lately is that the providers I have visited don't respond to queries from the provider I plan to visit. I'm unable to see other providers because of this. The only option left at this point is to go back to providers I have seen. (newbie friendly ones)

I have been to 3 of them till date and whenever I request an appointment with them they are ready. Not sure why they don't provide their ok to others. This makes me think about getting a p411 account.

Also, I would want the provider to spend some time in public with the client. I dislike knocking on a unknown door, you never know what lies behind that door. Spending a few minutes in the lobby of the hotel or a public place would prove safe for both. But again that's just me.

[crazyb]

I think I might be a bit more selective than some guys, I have seen many topnotch girls and if they are not trustworthy enough for any new girl and she wants moreI move on. I think there has to be a reasonable amount of trust on both sides.

I do not see any girl that does not have a reputation as for being reliable and legit. I dont want dealings with LE any more than tge next person. I think some people forget this is supposed to be fun, if someone is not comfortable with my references then she should just say so.

[Guest]

From what I've experienced lately is that the providers I have visited don't respond to queries from the provider I plan to visit. I'm unable to see other providers because of this. The only option left at this point is to go back to providers I have seen.

I am very sorry you have had this experience.

Hookers sometimes like to play games. And its called "Cock blocking", this is unacceptable behavior. What will happen if they find out your seeing other girls? As a hobbyist myself, I would kick that escort to the curb. I would never spend another dime on her. You should write a review and mention, "she doesn't give references". Hopefully you did not give out your state ID to the wrong provider.

Cut and dry, we are paid to go away, we have no business in telling johns who your going to keep seeing and who your not going to see.

*The best way to give a reference is by email and cc the client.

*The client could even email both providers too, and ask for a reference.

*If a provider refuses to give a reference, then they should publish it on there advertisements.

[gimmyg]

*The best way to give a reference is by email and cc the client.

*The client could even email both providers too, and ask for a reference.

*If a provider refuses to give a reference, then they should publish it on there advertisements.

I like the email idea. Thanks!