Posted July 18, 2012 I'm an infrequent hobbyist frankly - I've seen maybe six or eight ladies over about 2 years - mostly I'm attracted to the younger ones - the soft, smooth younger skin, the perky breasts (NO offense intended for the shall we say more experienced ladies here - I'm sure you are GREAT - but at this moment its the younger ladies that get me excited - can't help it...) anyway moving on from that.... Point is I usually have a good time - but not great. Its like I'm forcing it - not to mention I hate the cover - but thats another story maybe - and I leave thinking it was a lot to spend (usually $250 - $300) for the pleasure I got. I wonder - is it because there was no "hunt and chase go for the 'kill'" like picking girls up at a bar or something? Not enough time to build attraction? this builds the case for repeats - however part of why I like the hobby (or idea of the hobby) is I need variety. Could be the wrong girls? - I realize. I know this where the more experienced ladies will want to chime in and say that's why they are better - they can create the mood better...maybe true - I conceed. But physial attraction is physical attraction the way I see it... I'm torn about the hobby, too. I like the discretion - number one by far. But I like the hunt/kill of getting with non-pros- however its a lot of effort to get there - and less discreet. I also like how when I do get with non-pros - its b/c they are truly attracted to me - they want me - and I can feel that. I don't know what I'm asking or if I'm asking anything.... Maybe I'm curious if others have the same experiences/thoughts...? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2012 I'm an infrequent hobbyist frankly - I've seen maybe six or eight ladies over about 2 years - mostly I'm attracted to the younger ones - the soft, smooth younger skin, the perky breasts (NO offense intended for the shall we say more experienced ladies here - I'm sure you are GREAT - but at this moment its the younger ladies that get me excited - can't help it...) anyway moving on from that.... Point is I usually have a good time - but not great. Its like I'm forcing it - not to mention I hate the cover - but thats another story maybe - and I leave thinking it was a lot to spend (usually $250 - $300) for the pleasure I got. I wonder - is it because there was no "hunt and chase go for the 'kill'" like picking girls up at a bar or something? Not enough time to build attraction? this builds the case for repeats - however part of why I like the hobby (or idea of the hobby) is I need variety. Could be the wrong girls? - I realize. I know this where the more experienced ladies will want to chime in and say that's why they are better - they can create the mood better...maybe true - I conceed. But physial attraction is physical attraction the way I see it... I'm torn about the hobby, too. I like the discretion - number one by far. But I like the hunt/kill of getting with non-pros- however its a lot of effort to get there - and less discreet. I also like how when I do get with non-pros - its b/c they are truly attracted to me - they want me - and I can feel that. I don't know what I'm asking or if I'm asking anything.... Maybe I'm curious if others have the same experiences/thoughts...? Same here in this hobby, especially when I lay the donation down. http://youtu.be/JEEWE7gcPw0 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2012 Usually I've found that if I'm questioning if I should do something, the answer is usually that I should not. It sounds like (and I could be wrong) you are constantly regretting it after the initial high wears off. True, maybe you have not found the right provider/s or maybe it's that you are looking for something you can't find in this hobby. Only you can really decide if you want to continue hobbying, in the end none of our answers should be a deciding factor, as we really don't know shit all about what goes on in your head lol 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2012 Why not do both? Yes, time may be the issue, but picking one over the other leaves a need unfulfilled... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 18, 2012 What does younger mean to you .? 16-19, 19-23,23-27,27-30. Younger does not mean inexperienced, its just means that most younger ladies (MOST) are not tuned in to a mans needs or thier own for the most part. I can't tell from your post but I take it your no spring chicken yourself. So what you pay for is the younger smoother perky breast then for the GFE expereince. So pay up or go home. Lilithia 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 I agree with SophiaRose. If you are doubting yourself you may need to rethink what you are doing. As with anything in life there is an upside and downside to anything you do. For me the experience with a great lady outweighs the perceived negatives. Your reaction my be to the choice of your lady. Personality, experience and attitude are way more important to me to create a good time than youthful looks. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 You didn't outright say it, but you hinted that "indiscretion" would be a problem. Here's my advice, IF you're married, and want to stay married. DO NOT chase non-pros. You're really chasing a trip to divorce court. If you're not married, do whatever seems right to you! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 Sounds like you are looking for romance, bud. The hobby is for those of us who have romance or love (or don't need it), but need to fulfill our sexual appetite. I think providers are the most honest women in the world. They undertand what we are looking for, no connections, and have a similar sexual appetite plus can make a living doing it. You want more than sex, and so the hobby is not for you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 Sounds like you are looking for romance, bud. The hobby is for those of us who have romance or love (or don't need it), but need to fulfill our sexual appetite. I think providers are the most honest women in the world. They undertand what we are looking for, no connections, and have a similar sexual appetite plus can make a living doing it. You want more than sex, and so the hobby is not for you. i have to respectfully disagree with you here. first, no blanket statement applies to what any of us are looking for in the hobby - the reasons are as numerous as there are hobbyists themselves. i think you're giving too much credence to 3g here but in reality i know plenty of guys who are more in it for the gfe. nothing wrong with romance, be it with a provider here or someone you pick up at the bar. plenty of us want the connection - otherwise there would be no reason to coin the term 'atf' also i don't believe as a general rule that providers are necessarily the most honest women in the world - some are, some aren't - again a blanket statement that simply isn't true. i think the reason skimon has that vaguely empty feeling may be because, let's face it, plowing through as many of the youngest asp's you can here eventually leads to diminishing returns. what's the point of bemoaning the lack of the 'hunt' and the 'chase' if what you catch doesn't fulfill all those subtle and subliminal needs that sex provides. otherwise it is just a meat market. if i were you, i'd step back, shake myself, and reassess what it is you really do want from the totality of the experience. if you're clear on that, i'm sure you can find some gals here who can provide that for you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 Romance now there's a word that is used loosely. There is no romance paying an escort or a booty call at 2am in the morning. There is no romance in random sex partners, young or old Its like a going to the cranvial , you wait 15 min to get on the ride the the ride comes you reach the sky and in 2.2 seconds its over . The thrill is gone until the next ride. Thats the name of the game. lilithia 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 You didn't outright say it, but you hinted that "indiscretion" would be a problem. Here's my advice, IF you're married, and want to stay married. DO NOT chase non-pros. You're really chasing a trip to divorce court. If you're not married, do whatever seems right to you! be there, done that learn from the wise Pfunk chasing is fun, chasing and getting shot down isnt of course but with ASPs, to quote pretty woman, they "are a sure thing". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 I'm an infrequent hobbyist frankly - I've seen maybe six or eight ladies over about 2 years - mostly I'm attracted to the younger ones - the soft, smooth younger skin, the perky breasts (NO offense intended for the shall we say more experienced ladies here - I'm sure you are GREAT - but at this moment its the younger ladies that get me excited - can't help it...) anyway moving on from that.... Point is I usually have a good time - but not great. Its like I'm forcing it - not to mention I hate the cover - but thats another story maybe - and I leave thinking it was a lot to spend (usually $250 - $300) for the pleasure I got. I wonder - is it because there was no "hunt and chase go for the 'kill'" like picking girls up at a bar or something? Not enough time to build attraction? this builds the case for repeats - however part of why I like the hobby (or idea of the hobby) is I need variety. Could be the wrong girls? - I realize. I know this where the more experienced ladies will want to chime in and say that's why they are better - they can create the mood better...maybe true - I conceed. But physial attraction is physical attraction the way I see it... I'm torn about the hobby, too. I like the discretion - number one by far. But I like the hunt/kill of getting with non-pros- however its a lot of effort to get there - and less discreet. I also like how when I do get with non-pros - its b/c they are truly attracted to me - they want me - and I can feel that. I don't know what I'm asking or if I'm asking anything.... Maybe I'm curious if others have the same experiences/thoughts...? shot in the dark here but.... You like youger ladies & like the thrill of the chase? As I've gotten older my chances of going home with the non-pro demographic you descibed are pretty slim. Having said that are you really grieving your lack of "thrill of the chase" or the chance of success? You substitute this with a sure thing but what you went to the sure thing for is not what you were really looking for. Another way to put it is you think you are looking to get laid but maybe you are really looking for the conquest of meeting & then seducing a young hottie. Sure you bust your nut but then immediately feel disappointed because this was only part of what you were after? What if you made arrangements to meet a young agreeable provider at a public place & proceed to "seduce her" into a session. In the right circumstances maybe you could remove the cash exchage as well, prepaying or paypal? Do everything you can to take the "sure thing" part away & add some of the "thrill of the hunt" as you put it. Course this was just me having an idea & running with it, I could be (and probably am) way off base. If you figure it out though let us know... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 19, 2012 i have to respectfully disagree with you here. first, no blanket statement applies to what any of us are looking for in the hobby - the reasons are as numerous as there are hobbyists themselves. i think you're giving too much credence to 3g here but in reality i know plenty of guys who are more in it for the gfe. nothing wrong with romance, be it with a provider here or someone you pick up at the bar. plenty of us want the connection - otherwise there would be no reason to coin the term 'atf' also i don't believe as a general rule that providers are necessarily the most honest women in the world - some are, some aren't - again a blanket statement that simply isn't true. i think the reason skimon has that vaguely empty feeling may be because, let's face it, plowing through as many of the youngest asp's you can here eventually leads to diminishing returns. what's the point of bemoaning the lack of the 'hunt' and the 'chase' if what you catch doesn't fulfill all those subtle and subliminal needs that sex provides. otherwise it is just a meat market. if i were you, i'd step back, shake myself, and reassess what it is you really do want from the totality of the experience. if you're clear on that, i'm sure you can find some gals here who can provide that for you. Great advice! ...and I'd recommend multi-hour if you haven't tried that already. Some people need more time to make it feel....real. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 20, 2012 The hobby is what it is ... full of highs and lows, risks and inconsistencies. Frustration can set in if and when you look for something deeper than it can provide. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 20, 2012 I can appreciate what the OP is saying here. I'm not sure that I feel exactly the same but I can certainly appreciate it. My perspective isn't so much the hunt/kill....but the connection. Somewhere in the back of your mind (actually, mine ), it's nice to feel that a connection was made, maybe even a feeling that you are liked or even wanted. A "spark" is nice, if you will...but there's rarely time, (nor is the hobby neccessarily the place for that). I will say, that when you experience something more than just the business end of it all, it takes things to a new level. Like the feeling of a first kiss, a little magic, a spark that makes you feel something great, some excitement away from the same old, same old. Some of my best memories are of a provider who invited me back, (many times a week sometimes), just to hang out, drink a few beers, watch Friends re-runs, etc. She couldn't get over the fact that I didn't have to come over just to get in the sack. Of course, oftentimes it would still lead to that......and I would still leave a donation, although she said I didn't need to. I just never wanted her to feel that I was taking advantage of the situation. Bottom line, It was a compliment to me to feel wanted by a younger and very attractive girl. It made me feel alive, something good inside.....like "the sleeper had awaken" . I still enjoy getting an email from a provider who wants to see me again, even when it is just business. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 20, 2012 i have to respectfully disagree with you here. first, no blanket statement applies to what any of us are looking for in the hobby - the reasons are as numerous as there are hobbyists themselves. i think you're giving too much credence to 3g here but in reality i know plenty of guys who are more in it for the gfe. nothing wrong with romance, be it with a provider here or someone you pick up at the bar. plenty of us want the connection - otherwise there would be no reason to coin the term 'atf' also i don't believe as a general rule that providers are necessarily the most honest women in the world - some are, some aren't - again a blanket statement that simply isn't true. i think the reason skimon has that vaguely empty feeling may be because, let's face it, plowing through as many of the youngest asp's you can here eventually leads to diminishing returns. what's the point of bemoaning the lack of the 'hunt' and the 'chase' if what you catch doesn't fulfill all those subtle and subliminal needs that sex provides. otherwise it is just a meat market. if i were you, i'd step back, shake myself, and reassess what it is you really do want from the totality of the experience. if you're clear on that, i'm sure you can find some gals here who can provide that for you. Don't disagree with you but let me clarify: ROMANCE a. A love affair. b. Ardent emotional attachment or involvement between people; love: They kept the romance alive in their marriage for 35 years. c. A strong, sometimes short-lived attachment, fascination, or enthusiasm for something: a romance with the sea. I was thinking of a or b, but I quess the hobby would include c. I can see how one might fall in love with a provider, I know I have been emotionally attached to one or two (my atf's). But if the poster has an empty feeling after seeing providers, burned out or not, then something is missing that the hobby is not providing him. From his post I surmised it's the "chase." I can't see how there is any chase in the hobby. But that is part of romance (attachment, fascination, or enthusiasm). On the honesty, I only meant with regards to sex, not all the other stuff that goes on like money, friendship, etc. Just my two cents. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
