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Once I went to an off-site meeting with a co-worker and one of the two people we met was a provider existing in her "regular" work life. We conducted the meeting professionally and all went well -- which included two more meetings. Fast forward a couple of weeks after the project was completed & I booked an appointment which included many laughs about our "mutually assured discretion." We met semi-regularly until she retired from the "hobby," then we fell out of contact. (And never had another engagement with her firm, either.)

You probably know this, but a note about anti-body testing & results...

[Disclaimer: I’ve been off the board for quite a while — Except for occasional peek ins — so please delete this if it is too direct or redundant. But I did search, unsuccessfully, looking for the topic.] Based on the number of reviews and listings I’m seeing, I assumed the hobby is at some level of activity. I saw another thread where someone posted that they were going to make an appointment and take their chances. Is this sort of the state of things? Roll the dice? (For both sides.) Are providers doing any sort of basic health screenings — temperature and symptom check? (Is this reciprocal?) I know this is going to seem crazy, but are folks possibly wearing masks? Maybe keeping a window open and a fan or air purifier or both going? (I am aware of the effects all that could have on an encounter.) I’m really curious. And if answers or discussions have taken place, please point me to them. Thx.

friends without benefits....then, not really friends, then you aren't left with much.

I don't know if it is still there, but Candio's website gave the the Grooming 101 info back in the day that I didn't know I needed!

What's the saying about the brain being the body's largest sex organ? It is something you can make "bigger" through the ways Average1 suggests, right? You can have a bigger, better brain by being thoughtful when interacting (I would argue this is true for provider to client as much as client to provider.) That -- and being clean -- is the the sure route to a "good review."

Since the discussion has veered into one of the board's "Everlasting Gobstoppers" of topics (screening,) I'd like to ask for some input. I've been pretty inactive for the past two years-ish for various reasons. In that interim, I accidentally let my P411 account expire. As many know, they're not currently renewing or accepting new users due to all the recent laws enacted. Bummer. Also, over the past couple of years, all of the small number of the folks I visited regularly have retired. (Yes, this makes me very sad.) They were well-reviewed, well-known and respected ladies. So on the occasions when I did wander away from the Circle,* their references seemed to be well-received. Lastly, the cell number I used went away. So, six years after launching into this adventure, I'm almost back to newbie status. (If i could reverse my chronological age like that, it'd be an awesome trade-off....) Has using ToB become more of a tool lately with the changes and P411's reduced availability? It seems to have always been a way for some people to make connections and conduct screening of a sort. If so, how do most folks use it nowadays? (Sounds like provider-to-provider references aren't what they used to be.) I'm reluctant to provide any personally identifiable information and don't connect with providers who chose that method. (which is totally their prerogative.)This recent window of opportunity to reconnect with the Hobby might be shortlived, but if not, I'd like get a feel for the latest screening landscape and how ToB relates. * remember the "Circle of Trust" from Meet the Fokkers? ....esoteric reference.

Sorry to hear that, Jez. I've really slowed down seeing ladies for that reason -- the likelihood of a last-minute cancellation. It has become increasingly difficult to get away from work. One can only have so many dentists or doctors visits a year, eh? Those seem to be the only sacrosanct appoints. Everything else has to be secondary to whatever dumpster fire rolls my way. On the flip side, when I was more active, I can't remember how often I would get a text an hour or less from a provider before an appointment cancelling it. All I can do is be patient, empathize and move along. No one ever fully knows what is going on in someone else's life.

I ran into a provider via my job once. It was initially a little distracting, but we were both professional and all went well. The next time I saw her, we laughed a bit and noted the importance of MAD... Mutually Assured Discretion. I still book appointments on occasion, but we haven't cross paths in real life again. Another, who has now retired out of state, keeps in touch via text, another became sort of a coffee friend we had a strong mutual non-hobby interest the fueled the conversations, but we fallen out of contact, and another has been a friend for years with periodic lunches and the rare appointment. People are people are people.

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I would worry that your expectations might not be met just due to the build up. Totally second Banger's comment. Maybe book an extra session (or a longer one -- extra would be my choice) with a current ATF.

Happy New Year, everyone. Sadly, one of my favorite providers is no longer available, so I'm likely finding myself back in the pool & hoping to connect with someone new -- unless I retire... For me, that means reaching out to a new provider via P411. Like many folks, I'm gratified when the provider has the time, inclination and is able to read my profile, but that doesn't actually seem to happen often. When it does, I take it as a very good sign. My question for providers (and clients, too) is: what information do you find most useful in a profile's "Client Bio" section and do you read the narrative section of that? For what it is worth, I have actually spent a lot of time on mine -- yeah, yeah, I know -- but now wonder if it is ever read? Three tabs over and scroll all the way down that page. Who has time for that....? But, if you do read it, what is most helpful to have in that section? If not, why not? Also, if a train leaves Cincinnati at 4:00 p.m. traveling 180 mph and a truck leaves Cleveland....

To slightly extend (& hopefully not drift) this topic vs starting a new thread, may I ask: what is contained in an "Okay" as seen by the provider viewing it? Is it simply what the we (the client) sees? Which isn't much. Name of provider, date of okay and that's about it, yes? Is there a provider-only comment section? And...while I'm at it, heck drift on! ...Is it appropriate to request an Okay after only one visit with a provider? I always feel like I should ask folks after I've see them more than once. (Which is a Catch-22, because I sort of stick with the same one or two folks for as long as possible, if we get along well. Then, they become unavailable (move/retire/join convent...) and I find I have old Okays. #OverThinkingThings Thanks for your responses.

5'8, 130-140. just right.

This might be a bit off-topic, but not sure and I didn't want to start a new thread on reviews. But, maybe in terms of truth in a review this 1-10 scale isn't helpful. In a field where everything appears to be subjective and everyone's mileage may vary, how does what I feel someone's appearance rate help the next client (Not slagging the admins, because I don't really have a better idea.) For example, I couldn't rate anyone as a 10 in looks or service. Since that's -- to me -- perfect. Yes? But, there are plenty of 10s' in the system. I recently posted a review and gave the provider a 9 in each category which felt high, but I really like her and she is very pretty, very professional (in a good way, not cold etc.) But I expect that someone else who has different preferences may not make the same judgement. For example, I saw a review of a favorite provider and he listed her looks at 5, which baffles me and I expect may not have made her feel very good (unless the client was a total jerk and she brushed it off.) Okay...so not sure this was helpful at all, but at least it made me feel better. Posting self-rated at 10!

Riffing of Ms. Justina's post about the once a week "make the happiest couples..."

Asked and received a very reasonable response. All good, as far as I can tell. Thanks to all who replied with very interesting thoughts and suggestions. Happy Thanksgiving.

To a provider: "You wouldn't happened to have previously been <insert former provider name..." I know ladies change names for various reasons some benign and those are usually accompanied by "FKA" or such. Other times the same lady's name will vary from their ad to their P411 account to a web page. But, I do know of a couple of providers who had issues with clients and went UTR in terms of ads and posting and such. (A couple who kept in contact with me, even went so far as to delete there P411 accounts.) So, is it just a complete no-no to ask? I'm not looking to upset anyone and I would expect a simple, "Sorry no" would be a adequate response true or not. And if you do want to be a different persona (which is cool, I suppose) it might be helpful if there are enough similarities with the old one that goobs like me are asking about a connection to then move farther away from old practices?

Exactly. I have avoided shaving because of what Abigail mentions here (this is the second time I've seen this given as a reason & first time from Ember) Anyway, due to #deadbedroom, I don't think there is much chance of it being noticed if I did or even painted like a candy cane... In terms of "freshness," after washing well all down there (right Ms. Justina!?) I hit it with a little mint shampoo since it is hairy in that neighborhood, yes? (And, no, I don't have mint shampoo just for the Boys. I like how it works and feels on the big head.) After that on days when I have an appointment scheduled, I'll go "commando" with pants that have a loose weave. It may be completely bogus, but I think the extra air flow helps mitigate any staleness plus it makes me feel like the king of the beasts! Okay, so, I apparently do get a bit ocd on my preparation...

Pitbull's home experiences and mine are nearly identical. Although, I'm envious of his quarterly encounters! Before I discovered this adventure, for various reasons, it had been nine years of basically abstinence in my marriage. It has been a couple of years since I entering this realm and we've been intimate once. So the streak was broken, but nothing since. You may commence rolling your eyes, but she's very attractive and has kept quite fit. So, it is hugely frustrating. I was likely to blame for her turning away many years ago, but over the past five or six years, I've worked very hard to repair the relationship. While we talk about this issue regularly, things don't change. It can be very, very combustible to bring up, so i let it go most of the time. (I don't think she's seeing someone else, but if so -- not sure I have any ground to stand on to condemn that.) Anyway, I started thinking about finding a FWB, but really did not like the possible downside of that. And I didn't need any emotional connection, just wanted to get laid now and then! Fortunately, most of my single female friends to whom I am attracted are too smart to tangle with a married guy -- even if they were attracted to me. Spent about ten minutes on Ashley Madison before realizing it was a scam (didn't get caught in the data breach, I checked.) Then, I read about this in a blog of a former provider and was shocked -- in a good way. I always thought there were only either $5,000 a night ladies or those who were, unfortunately, on East Colfax and such. Fast-foward a couple of months, discovered TOB, Escort Boards (aka) and I decide to take the plunge with a provider close to my age in Boulder. After far, far too much James Bond and paranoia -- on my part, she was very patient -- we met. It was kind of a blur, consider how long it had been and how nervous I was, but it went okay. Never went back to her. (AB, send a PM if you want the reason for your research.) I kept going, because I really like making a physical connection again with a woman (what a shock! ;-) and thought I might find someone who I could connect better with than my first. Fortunately, I did. The next two providers I saw were amazing and exactly who I had hoped to see in this. Sadly, they moved on but, I fell into a bit of a financial windfall & went a little crazy and visited around a lot for a few months. After many misses and a few hits, I mostly connect with one ATF and occasionally seek others when her schedule and mine don't match. (Fortunately, we can usually meet because she's amazing.) What interaction do I like best? I'm just a lame as can be imagined that I hope the provider enjoys my company and has a pleasant experience. Honestly, and I know I'm delusional, it is best when it kind of resembles a super hot, FWB situation. She's had a nice hour, I've had a nice hour, we respect each other and leave happy. Actually, for a few of the folks I've visited with, I think that's been the case. For the majority of providers I've seen (remember the crazy windfall time), I'm sure it was pretty transactional. Pleasant, sure, but I'm quite sure our time did not register as any great shake.

Retirement is the bane of my adventuring, but also the nature of the business. My favorite provider to visit is awesome, but I worry she'll suddenly retire/disappear. (This has happened at least three times with ladies I very much enjoyed visiting over the years....I don't think it was me causing it.) But, the process of meeting new folks -- I ventured 'out' recently -- seems to becoming quite tedious with some folks. Either that or I've just gotten less tolerant of flakey behaviour around pre-appointment communication. I truly appreciate those who are efficient and clear in that regard.

Weekdays in the early afternoon always. Wish I had more flexibility, but I don't.

Generally, I feel the opposite. They tend to be a big turn off. BUT, four my favourite providers (mix of active and retired ladies) have very prominent -- and very well-done -- tattoos. So, they must not be that much of a turn off. Gosh, there must be something different about providers vs. civilian women....whatever could it be?

I've never actually booked a 30-minute session, though it has crossed my mind often. I think, even if MSOG is more of a goal than an expectation, it could seem rushed. But, like I said:I don't know if that is true. It might be worth researching...