Posted October 13, 2012 You have a kind heart. I would support something like this, but I would want it to be administrated by someone who is tough-minded but fair. I would not want to be an enabler for someone's addiction.....or pimp. Years ago I worked for a Health One hospital and they had a great program for their employees it was called the Hope Fund. If an employee found themselves in a hard spot they could plead their case to the Hope Fund and get help. I have often wondered if we could make something like that work in the escorting world. A working girl charity of sorts, guys and girls could donate money, goods, specialty services anything really. There are a lot of good people out there, those who recognize that it can be tough for providers to do things like rent apartments, and that some providers struggle to pay bills, that really they just sometimes need a little help. As for the original question, I can't really speak to the etiquette it will vary depending on the relationships you have with clients. I don't really think its inappropriate to ask. We don't get help if we don't ask for it right? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Etiquette is a code of behavior that delineates expectations for social behavior according to contemporary conventional norms within a society. IMO - it is unprofessional for a provider to ask a client for a reference in real life, such as renting an apartment, etc. +1. I would never ask for this sort of favor of my clients. I'm in this business to be independant after 3 immediate terrible desasters in my life, Loosing everthing I owned(including 2 fantastic jobs) in Katrina except 2 changes of clothes, and a bad motorcycle accident with a drunk driver(the night before the hurricane), which left me very injured. I came here to Denver with NOTHING. and came out if it on my own and better than ever with lots of blessings. I now work 2 jobs again, and Ill be damned if I'm personally going to ask anyone for favors....maybe thats my Cuban coming out. Now, on the other hand, if one of my great guys offers to do something out of the goodness of his heart, on his own, and his own suggestion, If and when he sees that I MIGHT need something, that might be different. But IMO, and in my own situation, I wouldn't find it appropriate to ask anything more that being treated with respect, and being paid correctly for my time. I also know there are plenty of helpless providers out there who don't know how to manage their business...not directing this to the OP at all but I've seen it for years now with others, but it is what it is. And Jennifer, you are smart, educated, and resourceful, not a newbie... I'm kinda suprised you would ask this. I expect you could get a good refrence all on your own. Still IMO, BAD ettiquette for any provider. Hope this helps! OH, and I guess I should add....I know some men love helpless girls, but I'd rather not be one myself ,and I know you feel the same way. Edited October 13, 2012 by Velvet Valentine add. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 13, 2012 The title of my discussion was rhetorical. I'm disappointed but not really surprised that apparently, what I intended for good has devolved into something bad. Why the "gossip gang" or the greek chorus here is being so mean to me goes to show that ... mean people suck, but don't necessarily swallow. Anyone who has a personal beef with me, please contact me personally, and let's resolve it. I have no interest in drama, I'm here to crowdsouce the community. Look, I can't be the only one who has wondered what the gals do when they need an employment reference! This is not rocket science! Their clients are their employers. My question is an honest one. Why shoot the messenger here? I myself have no need of references. I live with my SO, and when and if we move, we have his references and mine. Thisi s the only statement I will ever make with regards to him, as we are very private and not into drama. Like when creepy swingers hit on us, we appreciate the invitation but we have to go now, LOL. I would not myself ask a client for any kind of reference. Clients are not infallible. When in need of a service, call a professional. To the young ladies in need of references for prospective landlords, etc. just Google "fake landlord references" and inquire. I myself am happy to advise, please pm me for details. I'm not here much but I do check in from time to time. I like to help, and the haters here can do or say whatever. If you are a provider in need of help, I will help you. P.S. Is it just me, or are uptight females kind of a turnoff? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 13, 2012 LOL the greek chorus likely does not enjoy linguistic nuances. Judgemental females are woodkillers. LMAO, aren't "conventional norms within society and etiquette" what we're trying to escape here? Call me unprofessional. Mea culpa, I admit to being hot and wet. You should loosen up some IMO. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 13, 2012 Why do you girls think that every problem can be solved by you spreading your legs? Because it can LOL ... No j/k sorry would never ask a client to get involved in my personal life in such a way as it would be asking for issues. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 Why do you girls think that every problem can be solved by you spreading your legs? Because it can WORD. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 ive had clients write letters of reference for work, volunteer gigs & for grad school (alumni). "thank you" to all of you who are able to and generous enough to put in a good word! we appreciate it! note: these letters were always a suggestion from my friends. i have never solicited assistance. if you put out great energy and love, you get it back. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 Once upon a time, there was a vibrant woman named Flegan Rae. Flegan had bad credit and a giant canine of a banished breed in the Kingdom of Menver. Flegan was turned down a time or two for Menver rentals because other people had smaller dogs and better credit. Flegan did not let this get her down! Instead, she found a lovely place for rent in a foreclosed castle. While at first intimidated by this castle of great majesty and superb architecture, she quickly learned that it was owned by bankers. Sensing opportunity, Flegan turned someone's liability into her good fortune by being in the right place at the right time. And she lived happily ever after. Without the assistance of a Prince. Any stories to share? Pleasant anecdotes of extremely grateful gals showing their appreciation? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 is being so mean to me goes to show that ... mean people suck P.S. Is it just me, or are uptight females kind of a turnoff? Jennifer, who is being mean? You start a thread asking about etiquette regarding a specific scenario. While there is no one "correct" answer, many responded by giving their opinions. You say people didn't read the question. Again, we are giving our opinions on the answer to the question. Just because people don't give you the exact answer you want to hear doesn't make them "mean". Don't take it so personal as I don't believe anyone is trying to be mean to you. Hugs, Wendy 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 To the young ladies in need of references for prospective landlords, etc. just Google "fake landlord references" and inquire. I myself am happy to advise, please pm me for details. I'm not here much but I do check in from time to time. I like to help, and the haters here can do or say whatever. If you are a provider in need of help, I will help you. Trust me. You're not "helping" by recommending semi-illegal services that provide at the very least highly unethical services. As someone who has spent the better part of his life reading/providing references, I can tell you this: It's easy to separate the genuine ones from the bullshit ones. Simply call the provided phone number to go into details: "So, Suzy worked with you on this project? Could you give me some details on the nature of her involvement?" Do you really think landlords are stupid enough to fall for this crap? And, as I said before, you'll also need a fresh credit report and a verifiable source of income. If you can't rent an apartment under your own steam, go on CL and find yourself some kind of roommate situation. Not that hard. Then again, wasn't there a guy on here who posted something about being a landlord with a "hooker-friendly" apartment? I'm sure he'll be happy to "help out". Your snatch will be writing the rent cheque, so no paperwork involved. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 14, 2012 Just because people don't give you the exact answer you want to hear doesn't make them "mean". Don't take it so personal as I don't believe anyone is trying to be mean to you. i think you 2 ladies should duke it out......or have naked oiled cat fight. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, you read that right. Here's my question: When in need of a reference for some real life purpose, such as renting an apartment, etc., I'm sure at least some providers have encountered difficulties. Favorite clients are helpful by nature, and I imagine many have kindly provided references for some favorite ladies from time to time. What's the etiquette on this, and how common is this practice? Any stories to share? Pleasant anecdotes of extremely grateful gals showing their appreciation? Common with regulars. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
