Posted June 3, 2016 First P411 has me as a member for 9mo. 22 days. It took me a week to get approved as I didn’t really have the full screening credentials P411 wanted to approve me. Few emails back and forth, and what a valuable resource it is. I had 1st signed onto TER. Didn’t discover TOB until November 2015. So figure I’m a seasoned veteran of 10 months. I had way too much time on my hands after giving up everything I own, moving in with my aging mom in March 2015 to care of her, and having her pass away 5 days after I moved in. Was my childhood home so I continued to live there for 7 months, breathing drywall dust and flipping the asset. Got tired of porn on the computer and on cable TV. Still am to this day. Had no idea this society even existed. Had no idea where to start except keyword searches on Google. Craigslist being the trip source. Then key search on Craig’s until I tripped on BP. From there one of the esteemed ladies of TOB now but not then, had a link to her website, which taught me how to read ads and websites. Which I still respectfully do to this day. I find it helps in the screening processes. That site had a link to other ads, which after I became a member and learned how to manipulate the data, led me to P411. Obviously I was a newbie. I was having the floors refinished and decided to crash in a hotel for a couple of nights. Figured that was as good a time to start learning as there was. What I’ve learned is that being a newbie can be tough. I got lucky. After 2 TD’s, the third attempt resulted in a phone conversation that gave me the green light. She showed up at the hotel and literally blew me away. To this day, easily one of the finest I’ve met, and the tightest ass you’ll ever see. Saw her a couple of times, once at the house and led to my 1st P411 okay. I still see her occasionally and communicate with her. We uncovered together a fraud being perpetrated against her and was able to report it to those that need to know. Now I’m Basic plus 1…whoopee! My 2nd okay came from one of the ladies I most respect to this day. I respect that as she arrived, and after our phone conversations, she still sat me down, you’d have to understand my environment at the time, I was living out of plastic bins and homeless more or less, and interviewed me to make sure we were compatible. We decided we were, and she taught me how FUN this could be, until I tried to electrocute her, then things got wild…so fun and wild I learned…we had a BLAST! We still stay in touch, and I enjoy our conversations and her wisdom immensely. Now I’ve got 2 references, was never asked for them, but I’m Basic plus 2, from there it got easier on screening. Now I’m Basic plus a bunch and a few more references for sure. The Biggest thing I’ve learned along the way is RESPECT. No different than everyday life. Everyone deserves the same level of respect I was taught to give, unless you’re a True Troll or gonna thieve me, then there’s trouble. Recently there was a thread on TOB that I found quite offensive and disrespectful. It’s why I haven’t posted and I’ve stayed off the site again. We are all individuals, we have personalities, we have personal lives, and some things are NOBODY ELSE’S FREAKIN BUSINESS. I have many vices, one which is gambling. I have soooo much respect for one of my peers here that I self-imposed a lifelong ban on betting on the ponies, out of respect for her love of ponies and all animals. I’ve even quit teasing her about making her pet goose my Thanksgiving dinner. Respect for boundaries, whether physical or literary, by literary I mean ADS! HeyZues dudes, everyone knows you can read. They post their ads for our benefit and their safety. They can decline you faster than you can spit just cause you refuse to read. Sorry I’m an advocate of reading…anything. Bottom line is I’m having FUN, as long as it continues, I’ll continue. Once it ceases, I’ll bolt. One man’s perspective is all. Thanks for listening. My regular close…That’s my story and I’m stickin to it…What I believe in…PEACE! 20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 3, 2016 Why can't every guy be like this. Mods...turn this into a sticky 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4, 2016 Fascinating...Not sure how you afforded a lady and/or P411 while "living out of plastic bins and homeless more or less," but it just goes to show that we find money for things which we value. I'm tempted to derail into a screed against the welfare state, but I won't go there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4, 2016 2 hours ago, pitbull said: Fascinating...Not sure how you afforded a lady and/or P411 while "living out of plastic bins and homeless more or less," ... As I read the OP, this wasn't because he was penniless, but because he was in the midst of a remodel. Got the Tshirt. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Bit Banger said: As I read the OP, this wasn't because he was penniless, but because he was in the midst of a remodel. Got the Tshirt. 8 hours ago, pitbull said: Fascinating...Not sure how you afforded a lady and/or P411 while "living out of plastic bins and homeless more or less," but it just goes to show that we find money for things which we value. I'm tempted to derail into a screed against the welfare state, but I won't go there. Roger that. It was only about mom. She was simply waitin for me. I expected the long run. Didn't happen. I had no where to go after I moved in with her. I've never been penniless, cept when I was married LOL...but another thread all in it's own. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2016 14 hours ago, fishndude57 said: Roger that. It was only about mom. She was simply waitin for me. I expected the long run. Didn't happen. I had no where to go after I moved in with her. I've never been penniless, cept when I was married LOL...but another thread all in it's own. Good lord, sorry for the misunderstanding. Now I understand. And I'm glad you are not penniless, and were not penniless. On we go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 7:31 AM, Hot Violet said: when living out of plastic bins, and homeless, that's when you need us the most :-) That, or when we are making tons of money but not meeting any girls the normal ways! Still pretty interesting how different people find this and who tells about it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, ajot said: ... but not meeting any girls the normal ways! ... I'm curious as to what the normal ways to meet women are? Give me your top 5. Only 5 I can think of. 1. Work 2. Match making through family friends. 3. Bars..Really? 4. Wedding receptions. 5. Internet dating...see #3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, fishndude57 said: I'm curious as to what the normal ways to meet women are? Give me your top 5. Only 5 I can think of. 1. Work 2. Match making through family friends. 3. Bars..Really? 4. Wedding receptions. 5. Internet dating...see #3. #3 is dependent upon which type you go to and with what groups. And #5 has become a wide range of things besides just match.com. Expand on number 2 by expanding circles and by expanding hobbies (of a different type!) and groups you join in events and activities such as meetup. Hell, even going to stores of some same interests or shopping (though I haven't picked up any girls that way haha). I'd actually drop work below number #5 for most people - though I suppose if you work in huge stores like best buy or walmart or a grocery store it might be possible. Unless we're talking the smaller number of people out doing traveling sales or go to many conventions/conferences. So I'd rank 1. Friends/family connections, 2. Activities/hobbies, 3. Internet, 4 bars, 5 something work related maybe. And certainly those move around based on age groups and job/career. But meeting women at work is very different if you work at a grocery, a job construction site, or a law firm, etc. I don't think you can count hitting on the young secretary if you're a 60 yr old + partner as really meeting women! It certainly makes it easier to have a reason to meet them here though haha. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 17, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 7:31 AM, Hot Violet said: when living out of plastic bins, and homeless, that's when you need us the most :-) That is probably true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 19, 2016 Hi everyone - Just curious, being new to this hobby. But are there any risks/dangers to becoming a P411 member from a legal perspective? If god forbid, there was a sting. Could LE obtain all P411 info, correspondence, etc. and bust people? Thanks! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 19, 2016 Are you aware that P411 servers are offshore & therefore they are not subject to US law? What crime are you committing by being a member of P411? i can see where such disclosure could be embarrassing, but not criminal. You're not discussing illegal activities through their messaging system, are you? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites