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411 on Topanga on Denver BP

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She has BP and other escort ads from other cities this year.

She has a website under the name Sapphirelove.

She has one positive review on TER under the name Sapphire.

She has one positive review on TOB under the name Sapphire. Furthermore, the TOB guy that reviewed her has two other reviews, the most recent being a provider who posts here frequently.

Phone numbers:

(617) 581-3939

(978) 216-5088

I would be inclined to pull the trigger on this one.

Not seeing the flags that AV8R says he sees, but then, he's been at this longer than I. If he is willing, this might be a good "teaching moment."

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She has BP and other escort ads from other cities this year.

She has a website under the name Sapphirelove.

She has one positive review on TER under the name Sapphire.

She has one positive review on TOB under the name Sapphire. Furthermore, the TOB guy that reviewed her has two other reviews, the most recent being a provider who posts here frequently.

Phone numbers:

(617) 581-3939

(978) 216-5088

I would be inclined to pull the trigger on this one.

Not seeing the flags that AV8R says he sees, but then, he's been at this longer than I. If he is willing, this might be a good "teaching moment."

I'll admit to some bias. I don't like when I see the following phrases in an ad:

- I love generous older men (but she doesn't post rates)

- "high class", "upscale" (see recent thread on that)

- 100% me, 100% independent (who is she trying to convince)

Yes, I see she has a review. I don't think that her reviewer has a great deal of credibility yet, only three reviews in 3 days, nothing before or since. If the reviewer is questionable, so is the review.

She also doesn't use the name sapphire in her ad, even though she (supposedly) has been seen by at least one John in denver under that name. That raises suspicion.

Nope, I'd take a pass, but the OP is free to do as he chooses. I could be wrong.

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I'll admit to some bias. I don't like when I see the following phrases in an ad:

- I love generous older men (but she doesn't post rates)

- "high class", "upscale" (see recent thread on that)

- 100% me, 100% independent (who is she trying to convince)

Yes, I see she has a review. I don't think that her reviewer has a great deal of credibility yet, onlythree reviews in 3 days, nothing before or since. If the reviewer is questionable, so is the review.

She also doesn't use the name sapphire in her ad, even though she (supposedly) has been seen by at least one John in denver under that name. That raises suspicion.

Nope, I'd take a pass, but the OP is free to do as he chooses. I could be wrong.

Ah. See, my brain just saw the two different years. Good catch.

Let me paint a paranoid picture. TPTB bust a couple of BP ladies. They take their phones. They post a review on one. A bad review, because that gives "credibility." They post a few good reviews on their bait. They also post good reviews of popular, busy ladies that they've never seen because, lets face it, the ladies don't know the review names of everyone they see and they're not going to complain about another fantastic review.

Now, a reviewer might have enough credibilty to slip by a newb like me. The girl in the ad is hot, she's got good reviews, and I'm horny. Next thing you know, I'm in cuffs.

This is a typical strategy. One that works. I agree with passing on this one.

Again, good catch.

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Thank you gentlemen, I will take your advise.

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Shit, I was already texting her when I read av8r's 2nd post.

Thanks, buddy, I owe you one. ;)

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Ah. See, my brain just saw the two different years. Good catch.

Let me paint a paranoid picture. TPTB bust a couple of BP ladies. They take their phones. They post a review on one. A bad review, because that gives "credibility." They post a few good reviews on their bait. They also post good reviews of popular, busy ladies that they've never seen because, lets face it, the ladies don't know the review names of everyone they see and they're not going to complain about another fantastic review.

Now, a reviewer might have enough credibilty to slip by a newb like me. The girl in the ad is hot, she's got good reviews, and I'm horny. Next thing you know, I'm in cuffs.

This is a typical strategy. One that works. I agree with passing on this one.

Again, good catch.

"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me!"

Yeah, I would pass on this one as well, but not over review issue, etc. but because there are at least two other names, other phone numbers - all out of state, and the usual traveling troupe issues. But the intricate scenario you paint being "typical"??? Why, when a simple ad with stolen pics, placed on BP, rent a cheap hotel room and wait for the johns to come - like shooting fish in a barrel. Back away from the paranoia fruit .... slowly ..... slowly.

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"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me!"

Yeah, I would pass on this one as well, but not over review issue, etc. but because there are at least two other names, other phone numbers - all out of state, and the usual traveling troupe issues. But the intricate scenario you paint being "typical"??? Why, when a simple ad with stolen pics, placed on BP, rent a cheap hotel room and wait for the johns to come - like shooting fish in a barrel. Back away from the paranoia fruit .... slowly ..... slowly.

Actually, my conclusion was that the pics are probably not stolen. The phone number in her BP ad lines up with the phone number on her website, as do the pictures.

For me, it's the different name and the lack of (credible) reviews. And, the BP ad uses the same hyperbole and juvenile adornments that can be seen in some of the scam ads.

And, if she were a TRUE traveling provider, I think we'd have seen her pop up on this site.

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Actually, my conclusion was that the pics are probably not stolen. The phone number in her BP ad lines up with the phone number on her website, as do the pictures.

For me, it's the different name and the lack of (credible) reviews. And, the BP ad uses the same hyperbole and juvenile adornments that can be seen in some of the scam ads.

And, if she were a TRUE traveling provider, I think we'd have seen her pop up on this site.

I did not say the pics in the ad in question were stolen. I was saying that it would be simple enough for LE to use stolen pics for a sting much more simply than all the 3 stage review, elaborate scheme Laplace described. Perhaps I was not clear.

What precisely do you mean by "TRUE traveling provider?" What I mean by traveling troupe or traveling pimp troupe is ads obviously by same agent, aka pimp, through more than one state, with more than one phone number, more than one lady, SOMETIMES stolen pics or at least pics of the most attractive one in the stable used for others in the group. This lady, her photos and phone show up in at least two states, as do at least three phone numbers, four names (three attached to same pictures). Soooo, yes a traveling pimp show in my opinion. Sometimes they are not out and out ripoffs, just crappy service. In contrast, there are several absolutely legit and wonderful ladies that do travel - but all the multiple names, phones, etc. don't apply. Hell, some are even actually independent. Got nothing against those what-so-ever. Don't know if that is what you mean by "TRUE traveling provider" or not.

But in conclusion, lets just agree (!!!) it would not be recommended by either us that the OP go see this one.

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Allow me to shed my foreskin on the issue. :)

I haven't posted anything on here for a while, but I saw this post and I figured I'd shed some experienced light.

She's real and she's a lotta fun.

I saw her when she was Sapphire and I saw her as Topanga...both real and both times a great service.

No pimps, just a girl trying to pay some bills.

She's talkative and actually enjoyable and yes they are her real pics.

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Still really nervous about pulling the trigger on her! So there's a really recent review on her on TOB by someone that's done other reviews over the years for other providers and Chuck idk if its from you or not but I sent you a pm. Also there's a review on Topanga on eccie by a pretty reputable reviewer. From you more experienced fellas, would you go and see her? Normally I would, but really nervous about all this LE talk lately.

Review 1:

http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=7011

Review 2:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?p=1056711855

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I feel your hesitation, but given the reviews and no "red" flags, I would feel OK about contacting her and seeing where it takes me. If your gut instincts go off, back away, otherwise I might proceed with the normal due caution. This just might be one of those proverbial diamonds in the rough.

Either way, do report back, please.

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Well, she changed her name for "old boyfriend" issues. Nice girl, traveling, but didn't know Topanga is a canyon in Los Angeles. See my review when it pops up. Treat her well and you'll enjoy getting to know her. PM me if you need to.

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