Exposingjohns

[Guest Dawson]

Exposingjohns.com - Has anyone been caught with this scam ? Just need information if they really do remove their post when you pay the fee.

[EuropeanMonger]

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[juanduh]

Might as well beat him to the punch "hobby phone"

[Guest pejo]

Pejo all clear. Don't worry, we can all breathe easy now.

[gr8owl]

Might as well beat him to the punch "hobby phone"

Best advice ever. And hobby e-mail. And be somewhat careful what sites you visit. Should go without saying, but just in case ..... I would STRONGLY recommend NOT visiting the site mentioned unless you are sure your ip address is screened and virus and firewall are up to snuff. Some here I am sure are safe, most ..... just don't go there ok? And facebook, etc. using same numbers and e-mails. Really????!!!???? No, don't.

Interestingly, the site (and others) have generated other sites that claim to remove your name and data from sites like the one mentioned. Personally, I would not give a cent to any of them - nor indirectly trap anyone by posting links - sorry. Sorry for anyone caught up in these scams, but again - protect your id and save yourself a lot of trouble.

[mtnman2000]

I could see the sites sharing info. You pay to remove it from one place, but it populates on another suddenly and you never really get ahead.

[diver00]

There's another one escortcallers.com. They'll text you a message saying your on there list of escort callers, that's why I don't use a personal phone to call.

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I got this one too, last week. The screenshot wasn't a real screenshot, so, I'm not sure where they pull their info. Mine showed a screenshot of a cell screen that said "Sprint" and a message that I did write to an escort that I'm sure is legit. The number is actually a Google Voice number that doesn't even trace to Sprint in a simple web search.

It's a scam site, they won't remove your info and if they do, they'll put it back next week and threaten you again.

My guess is that they are somehow associated with either Google, Pinger, or one of the other freetext services, and they are able to intercept texts to certain numbers that are crossreferenced on backpage and other adult classifieds. Nobody knows who the hell pinger or txt2day or any of these companies are or what they do with that info, you have no rights to privacy over texts sent there.

I would guess this is happening largely because escorts are relying on those free text services for their incall setups (which is why you'll see "text only" in an ad... those numbers don't accept calls). I know the girl that I texted was on BP and wrote "text only"... Idk about the rest of you.

[Guest Shauna_Styles]

Those sites are such a scam. I have two very good clients who's names ended up on a similar site. The site demanded $10,000 to remove his name. How awful!

[jj254]

a cheap hobby phone helps, until everyone wants to text all day. mine's a $10 burner and i have to tap the number x times to get a letter. takes forever. but at least i'm so anonymous even my references don't know me, so i've got that going for me...

[The Oxymoron]

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My guess is that they are somehow associated with either Google, Pinger, or one of the other freetext services, and they are able to intercept texts to certain numbers that are crossreferenced on backpage and other adult classifieds.

I'm pretty sure these blackmail sites get client information by posting bait ads on BP, etc. I don't think texts are intercepted or cross references in any way, since there would be no need to go to those lengths.

They either post an ad as a "hot NEW 20 yr old" or they spoof a well known provider, by stealing her photos and ad text. So you think you are contacting a legitimate provider, but in actuality are contacting a spoofer looking to blackmail you.

Having a hobby phone and hobby email is imperative. Protect your real life information, and I really suggest sticking with sites that with charge for advertising, because the instance of spoofers/scammers will be much lower if they have to cough up more than a couple dollars.

[Guest Dawson]

What did you do ?

I am specifically looking for someone to give me advice on whether to pay or not.

[juanduh]

take a poll

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I'm pretty sure these blackmail sites get client information by posting bait ads on BP, etc. I don't think texts are intercepted or cross references in any way, since there would be no need to go to those lengths.

They either post an ad as a "hot NEW 20 yr old" or they spoof a well known provider, by stealing her photos and ad text. So you think you are contacting a legitimate provider, but in actuality are contacting a spoofer looking to blackmail you.

At first I thought that was true, but I don't think so anymore. The provider I texted was using the same number as she had before and as she does now. The number in the ad was not different, and it was a night when she was legitimately posting and answering. She did receive the message that I sent, and someone else did also apparently. I'll give you details in a PM if you'd like to use your resources to investigate it. I think there has to be more to it than that.

[-REDACTED-]

Definitely do not pay. The bully will always ask for more lunch money.

[-REDACTED-]

Here is my advice:

Point 1. We do not know who these people are, how they procure this information, or what their intent is. We know they are looking for money, and can assume they probably are not looking to spend large amounts of time or effort in their pursuit.

Point 2. Their level of "proof" is a forged screenshot of a phone containing a line or two of a message purportedly sent to an escort, which is a low standard.

Point 3. They are attempting to involve you in a transaction that you will want them to keep secret, that they may or may not decide to keep secret. Consider that especially; right now, all they can say is "This guy supposedly sent this text". If one were to make them a payment, tomorrow they could show people proof that you paid to keep your name off of a john website. We cannot assume that people that run websites such as this can be trusted to keep your financial transaction a secret.

Point 4. If they want easy money, and you pay once, they can assume you might pay again. They are looking for targets, and to pay will put a target on you. You have money, and you seem to actually care about their little scam, so now, how can they get more money from you?

Point 5. People post anything on the internet, and people know that. Someone mentions it to you, you act shocked or whatever. I mean, people don't grant this junk legitimacy, beyond wanting to gauge your reaction to it. It looks like a fake scam website, even to other people. Or, don't act shocked. Be like, I know, they want money from me, they're extorting me, I won't pay it. People just want an answer, if they even ask the question.

Point 6. People enjoy believing in what brings them enjoyment. If someone sees this and questions it, and you give a confident reply of how you know it's online and you can't do anything since you won't pay extortionists and the cops don't seem to care at all, they'll happily believe you. They are happier believing that, then believing in a website that already looks suspicious. Just don't seem all guilty if someone mentions it.

Conclusion: If you don't pay it, they probably won't go any further than listing you on some website nobody has heard of. If you do pay it, you could get yourself into their next phase, if they have one, of trying to get more money out of people who A. paid it already B. don't want to report their transactions to anyone and C. have shown they have something to lose if they don't pay. You will make yourself their source for under the table money. Don't pay them. At worst, figure out some valid seeming reason why you need a new phone number (if you need to justify it to someone in your life) or, failing that, switch carriers "for this phone because it's only on that carrier" and get a new number that way. In six months nobody will remember your number was what it is.

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To answer your question of what I did... I sent them a text that said "whoopdee doo who cares?" days ago and have yet to hear anything further. I'm in a position where I really don't care about their little scam, they won't hurt me, so I'm willing to toy with them and see what they do. I certainly won't pay them.

[N6_in_the_village]

;378394']I got this one too, last week. The screenshot wasn't a real screenshot, so, I'm not sure where they pull their info. Mine showed a screenshot of a cell screen that said "Sprint" and a message that I did write to an escort that I'm sure is legit. The number is actually a Google Voice number that doesn't even trace to Sprint in a simple web search.

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I would guess this is happening largely because escorts are relying on those free text services for their incall setups (which is why you'll see "text only" in an ad... those numbers don't accept calls). I know the girl that I texted was on BP and wrote "text only"... Idk about the rest of you.

It's good to see (in your other posts) that you have no intention of paying those creeps. But the main reason I'm writing is that I followed up on your comment that the ad was on BP, and included the words "text only". I did a Google search for ["text only" site:http://denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts] and found some interesting info:

Most of the recent ads in BP Denver Escorts, that include the words "text only", are for this one phone number, 720-296-6639, that is associated with the Fallen Angels agency. Here are two reviews of girls that use this number. The more recent review doesn't mention the Fallen Angels agency name:

http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=5668

http://www.tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=6279

If 720-296-6639 is really an agency phone number, then at least one other person (than the advertised girl) must be seeing the texts to this number, right?

I also noticed something else slightly odd (maybe not that odd, depending on how Google Voice phone numbers are assigned). Fallen Angels uses some other numbers which have a similar pattern, 720-XXX-6639, in their BP ads:

see this ad with number 720-269-6639:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZpfOig3n5r8J:denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/im-a-angel-alana-text-only-720-269-6639-some-trades-ok-30/16188947+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

and this ad with number 720-265-6639:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:46BglLAhbp4J:denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/a-gentleman-deserves-the-very-best-text-only-720-265-6639-ask-for-elizabeth-21/16189441+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[N6_in_the_village]

I'm pretty sure these blackmail sites get client information by posting bait ads on BP, etc. I don't think texts are intercepted or cross references in any way, since there would be no need to go to those lengths.

Another simple way that a blackmail site could receive a text, is that the original recipient forwards the text to the blackmail site. Further, this may be more likely for texts to an agency number (as opposed to a truly independent escort), where more than one person has access to the received text messages.

[A-rod]

Never pay. Even if it is a real phone number, it is so easy to fake the whole thing there is no way it can be used as any sort of proof. If it were to ever come up somehow, simply state it's an extortion scam. You had received a text a while back from some unknown number demanding money to remove the false info and after contacting PD and finding out it was an overseas site they could do nothing about you dropped it because it's meaningless and even if you got a new number it could happen again...