[Have you ever dated?]

13 hours ago, TheRightStuff said:

You know how married women hyphenate their maiden name with their husband's surname so as to maintain their identity (they do have a point) ... well, I knew an insufferable feminist whose name was Deborah Smith.

She married a guy named Christopher Smith!

Guess what her new, official, hyphenated name was on her drivers license and passport?

(Deborah Smith-Smith!)

How about that one!

That was funny...................

 

[Screening…..]

14 hours ago, TheRightStuff said:

I'm not privy to anybody's financial situation!

I just point out to newbies the precepts of successful mongering.

There is a way (a modus operandi) to not get bait & switched; not get scammed; not get hustled; not get robbed; avoid hood rats; not get pimped-rolled; not encounter LE; not place yourself in a precarious situation! 

There is a way to thrive in the hobby lifestyle!

What's wrong with pointing fellow mongers in the right direction so that they may up their game; flatten their learning curve; and productively spend their time and $$$ on providers with GFE skill sets and GFE playbooks?

Why would anybody object to that?

(But, I get the distinct impression that there is a segment of the hobby community that would prefer that vulnerable, easily-led and manipulated newbies remain in the dark about such things!)

"He who speaks the truth will stand before closed doors."

Okay, I am reading over and over where you state you want to help the newbies and I love that idea because I am here to help not just the newbies but everyone (providers/clients/newbies/haters LOL/lurkers/MODS/ADMIN.......................). LOL @ my damn self because I spilled my glass of ginger ale all over my carpet JEESH.......... Lets pretend I am a newbie. Enlighten me on how to not get bait n switched, not get scammed, hustled, robbed, pimp rolled and not encounter LE? I got bait n switched 5 times in the last 6 months. Four times I stayed because those girls were fine but the other one was definitely not my cup of tea. I am all eyes/ears, whats your full proof secret? 

[Alia Abaza's Return]

25 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

I’m with you on this. I’ve never commented on those two but at the time it was happening and threads and post surrounding it on several boards it just seemed too farfetched to think two providers that ran closely together somehow had all of their accounts “hacked” and that said hackers scammed previously seen clients out of their money. Phones and phone numbers, email addresses, passwords to forums, full account info needed for p411 login, review sites, and additional ad sites?? 

Common sense cannot be bought..............................

[Regular Story]

On 5/1/2024 at 0:44 PM, KatyaSoleil said:

Oh wow, definitely an interesting and uncomfortable position for both you and her boyfriend to be in. Time management is a thing and also... I'm curious why he was there so close to the time you'd be there too. If it were me, I would prefer he would just be close by not actually at the hotel right before my appointments were arriving. Strange. Glad to hear you started to work it out and it was more comfortable for all. Communication and discretion is so important to me, in my personal and professional life... I wouldn't want to mix the two so closely. 

The reasons that I think he would still be around by the time that I got there is because they both were time challenged, she was pretty new and he was a good old fashion jealous boyfriend. I mean, can you imagine him looking at the guy who's going upstairs to be with his woman and you have to sit and wait until he is done. You want to talk about mental issues. Me I would never put my girl in that situation where she has to go out and make money to take care of me. In all honesty, there is a ton of providers that have boyfriends that they basically take care of and are always close by. As far as working it out, its a no brainer for me because my goal is to make it COMFORTABLE for all that are involved. No offense but LIFE IS GOOD when a provider/client are comfortable around one another. I agree with you not wanting to mix your personal/professional life, thats why I am single LOL. If I am in a relationship, there is no need for me to hobby but since I am single, I can go to work, enjoy life and slip on over to the darkside. 

[Have you ever dated?]

On 5/1/2024 at 7:05 PM, oldertruckguy-9225 said:

I know a male acquaintance by the name of Jordan married to a lovely lady named Jordan. He goes by Jordy and she like to called J

Classic Jordan and Jordan story right there. I wonder what their kids names are? 

[Have you ever dated?]

On 5/1/2024 at 3:04 PM, Kaduk said:

I had a friend named Leslie who date a girl name Leslie…

 

Awww thats a cute one. I knew a guy that owned a candy store in my neighborhood who's name was Leslie also. Damn he had the best candy ever in his store. 

[Have you ever dated?]

On 5/1/2024 at 10:21 AM, TML93 said:

I had a girlfriend named Dawn, her dad's name is Don.  He told me he wanted a boy so he could name him Don jr, but when he had a girl he still named her after himself but used the girl spelling.  Then he had another daughter and no son.  (I can't remember what Dawn's sisters name was)

I didn't date but I had a huge crush on a girl named Andy. (With a y not an I)

I also got beat up once by a boy named Sue.  He really had anger issues.

Exactly what I would have thought my girl's Dad would have did LOL. I was 19 at the time, common sense told me to leave this one alone and he and I never had any problems after that. That Sue reminds me of her Dad LOL.................

[Alia Abaza's Return]

12 hours ago, Mustang87 said:

 

For what it's worth, this does not meet the same profile with Kat Vega and Winter Kay. They pulled their scam here in early '22.  If you look at their profiles (both of which are still active on TOB BTW) neither had logged in here for months prior to that. I know, should have been a red flag.  The fact that Alia has logged in, posted ads, and commented on a thread deviate from the other's MO. In the prior scam they were reaching out to guys they had soon before, through know email address, and offering a big discount if you would prebook and prepay. This to offset their travel expenses. If you went to their site at the time, it confirmed their travel schedule and also mentioned the discount for prepaying. Someone (I agree, probably not them) had access to their email and website. (How that person got the access is an open question) If Alia, or someone else, is running this same scam, it's those she's seen before who are at risk. I guess some one could take the time to reach out to them and ask if they've been contacted. I never saw Alia. She did NCNS my once, but I know she was having health problems at the time, so I let it go.

Of, course, not all scams run the same way, and it's possible that SD is correct and this scammer is working a different MO. I certainly hope not, but I guess we'll find out.

I personally do not believe EITHER profile was hacked/taken over by scammers. 

[Screening…..]

12 hours ago, TheRightStuff said:

The Backpage refugees have nothing to lose!

The habitues of the shallow end of the hobby pool ... have nothing to lose!

I don't knock POOR PEOPLE..................Definitely not my style and to be straight honest, I ROCK N ROLL with people from the bottom to the top.................. I have seen awesome providers ranging from less than stellar sites all the way up to high end sites. Its not good to knock/penalize providers/people because of their financial situation.....................

[Lingerie or Topless Massage no Ending, is there a market for it?]

On 4/16/2024 at 10:30 AM, Sensational Sammy said:

Hi all, 

I haven't been in practice for awhile,  but I've been wondering about something. Would there be a market for lingerie or topless massage without the happy ending? I'd be open to the fella taking care of himself at the end,  but I would want to avoid doing it myself. 

Everyone's opinions are much welcomed! Thank you!

I remember when I first started my venture into the HOBBY and I didn't know JACK SHIT LOL. Found myself contacting this woman for a massage and it went a little something like this. When I arrived, she explained her rules and I excepted. The problem was, she was extremely beautiful and it drove me nuts that I wanted her sexually 3 times as much after the massage. So I never went back because that was torture LOL, so until this day, I pay those types of providers no mind....................I would have to decline on your offer and I am positive you will find someone interested in what you are offering. Slides you a note and the note says if you change your mind LOL, send The Savior a pm................

 

[Alia Abaza's Return]

34 minutes ago, whatagame said:

Board tutorial -

1. When you see the user's forum post, click on their name.
2. That takes you to their page with all their posts; click on Profile (upper right).
3. Above the top picture in their Profile, click on My Listings.
   1. AA posted availability on April 27, 2024.

Thanks for the info Game. She posted under DTC and I rarely pay attention to postings under the DTC location. I am still curious why he thinks she and the others got scammed. She has ways she can be contacted, so why is he acting like the 411 boys LOL Oh jeesh, I just spilled a glass of milk all over the floor laughing at my damn self.............Its going to be one of them days ...................

 

[Have you ever dated?]

This question is for males or females. Have you ever dated a girl with a guy's name or dated a guy with a girl's name? I will go first because I dated a girl who's real name was Keith. She was a very pretty girl but for the life of me, I could not figure out WHY WAS HER NAME KEITH? I thought she was playing a trick on me. So I asked her and she looked me in the eye and said that her Father was so sure she was going to be a boy that he wasn't going to change it. I met her Dad when I was like 19 years old and he said to me, I am going to tell you this once and don't ask me again. I named her Keith because I wanted a boy and was sure we were going to have a boy. I said okay, thanks for answering my question. I never asked either of them again. TRUE STORY...............

 

[Alia Abaza's Return]

7 hours ago, skinnydud said:

After almost 2 years of not being part of tob ... how many of you girls and boyz think Alia Abaza's return is fishy and it could be someone who stumbled on her credential just like what happened with Kat Vega and her friend when they scammed a few guys in every city they used to tour. 

if anyone got to see her and can confirm please share so we can close this thread!

I hope its really Alia and not someone else!

I have not seen her post an ad but I have seen her comment. I see providers vanish and come back often, what are you really getting at? 

 

[Alia Abaza's Return]

4 hours ago, Audrey Astor said:

That was awful how that went down. So many great guys got hosed over. These scammers and thieves will stop at nothing.  And right now there are clearly other female profiles on TOB, that are being used by more than one lady. I think we’re all on our own in doing good research and keeping each other safe by back channeling. 

I felt bad for the guys as well. I even offered to help one of the guys by paying what he had lost but he said that he was okay. 

[Alia Abaza's Return]

7 hours ago, skinnydud said:

Correction: I do not believe it was Kat Vega and her friend that were scamming but someone who had their credentials and managed to access accounts and post.

Do you have anything to back up why you feel it was a scammer and not her? 

[Mile High]

Yes she was............................I hope she is doing well also. Hopefully, she will find herself a way to return....................

 

[Screening…..]

On 4/29/2024 at 2:00 PM, TheRightStuff said:

There Ya Go!

The ones who "have something to lose" ... will most certainly be on their best behavior!

(If providers could only identify them beforehand!)

If they were only omniscient!

What you say is true: (to paraphrase ) no matter how street-smart you think you are ... if you play this game long enough sooner or later a low card is gunna come out of the deck!

(If you step into the batter's box enough times ... sooner or later you're gunna be greeted by chin music!)

It goes with the territory!

But, there can be no doubt: Having a street-smart screening process; checking references; catering to respectable gents; cultivating regulars; and operating out of high-end hotels; ... goes a looong way of tipping the scales in a provider's favor!

Conversely: Lacking street-smarts in the screening process; not requiring references; catering to Backpage refugees; not having a fully-booked schedule of regulars; and operating out of dumpy motels ... tips the scales in favor of misadventure (or worse)!

Successful Providing 101:

(There can be no doubt that the most-salient factor contributing to the security, safety, longevity and $uccess of a provider is: WHAT CALIBER of CLIENT(S) DO YOU ALLOW to STEP into YOUR ROOM!) 

SUCCESSFUL PROVIDING 101!

 

LOL, its pretty easy to identify men that have nothing to lose..................................

[Mile High]

I miss Maddy. I haven't heard or saw her post in such a long time. She definitely was a PLUS to the HOBBY COMMUNITY......................She broke my CHERRY, she was the reason I got into HOBBYing................... 

[Screening…..]

25 minutes ago, TheRightStuff said:

Fair point!

And, sorry to hear about your misadventure!

You deserved a better fate!

Don't mean to put you on the spot (and pry) but: In retrospect were there salient red flags that (if your street-smarts were sufficiently honed and your situational awareness on point) ... you should have picked up on, from the jump? 

I'm just sayin'.

Not being privy to the relevant particulars of this encounter:  Did you let your guard down?; was he sufficiently screened?; did he supply credible references?; was he a regular? (where this act of violence was an-out-of-the-blue,  black swan event)?

Don't mean to belabor the point and put you on the spot but: I wouldn't be surprised if the answer to the aforementioned questions ... is no!

Now, this is easy for me to say (I wasn't there): but, I like to think if I had been in your shoes (situational awareness and street-smarts would have kicked-in) ... and I would have spotted a salient "tell" and would never had allowed such a client to step into my room!

(If the truth be told: did you check all the boxes that a savvy, street-smart provider @ the top of her game, would have, during the screening process?; did you posses situational awareness and do everything possible to insure your safety?; ... but, just got an unlucky roll of the hobby dice!)

Or, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, are you now brutally honest and say to yourself: I got nobody to blame but myself ... I let my guard down ... my screening protocols are lacking ... I should have never allowed him to step into my room? 

I'm just sayin'.

 

 

ps

Like I said I don't mean to put you on the spot, and pry, and take you out of your comfort zone.

 

psii

Best of luck in your future providing endeavors! 

 

 

STREET SMARTS are definitely a plus to have but at the same time, I know a ton of male/females that are LOCKED UP who also have STREET SMARTS. The bottom line is if you are in the hobby long enough, I don't care who you are, you are going to encounter some less than stellar encounters/people/situations and no matter how much you think you are on top of your game, you are going to realize you didn't see that one coming.................................And further more, WHAT US MALES do not realize in these situations that these women face is something US MALES don't think or really have to worry about. My hat is off to women that are way shorter, way smaller and physically not as strong as 90 percent of the clients they encounter. I don't care what screening you use, you can't always predict whats going on in another person's mind when certain situations occur in a room between two individuals. My advice/screening tool to add is to stick with the men that have something to lose versus the ones that don't have anything to lose.  

 

[Session]

6 hours ago, Todoesprivado said:

Oh wow. Same thing happened to me a few days ago 😶

Clarify, what exactly happened to you? LOL, now if its the same couple, I am going to laugh my ass off...............

 

[Interest Rates]

On 4/26/2024 at 3:05 PM, mustang said:

Pay your credit card bill every month and interest has no impact.

Pay it off or the balance every month yes and interest has no impact what so ever.................Its a lot harder than most people think, thats why so many are big time debt....................I had a friend ask me if he should take out a second loan and I said, HECKS NO LOL because I knew how sneaky his wife was but apparently he didn't know his own wife. So he takes one out anyways to pay off a couple high interest credit cards that she had maxed out. To make a long story short, he paid off both credit cards and within 6 months, she maxed out another card at 20K. He asks me for some more advice and I said I think you can handle it all on your own............People that ask me for advice only to do the opposite make me laugh...............

 

[Interest Rates]

On 4/20/2024 at 3:23 PM, wglide2003 said:

Miss a credit card payment and get totally shocked at their rate. 20%

Oh my goodness, miss a payment and your credit rating might take a nice dip as well. Credit cards can be good and bad for your financial well being. 

[Interest Rates]

On 4/20/2024 at 4:04 PM, atadlong said:

Interest rates are unlikely to fall to 5% and below for a few years. Purchasing a home in high season (April -Sept) you will pay the premium, Nov - Dec is the time to buy the paradox is low inventory at that time.  I waited forever for rates to fall below 10% when they did I purchased a home. 

I have 4 mortgages, 2.85%, 5%, 6% and 8%,  mortgage’s are tax deductible, credit card and car loans interest are not.

My rules, don't buy real estate unless you plan to keep it at least 7 years.

Pay off your credit cards every month.

Date the mortgage - Marry the house.

When rates fall home prices go up. Car prices are currently falling, ( tax time is usually a good time to car shop )

I am not a financial advisor, however I do have a 4 year business degree.

I admire most people and their skill sets, and I can assure you that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, however these things have worked for me - LONG TERM.

Oh jeesh, speaking of credit cards UGHHHHH. Paying them off monthly is EXCELLENT LOL. You want to see your credit score drop 10 - 50 points LOL, miss a few payments and max it out. I am not the sharpest either but a lot of the things that you currently do, I do as well and from the looks of it, we are in OKAY shape.......... 

[Interest Rates]

On 4/20/2024 at 2:07 PM, BoulderB said:

2.5% rates may never come again.  Fall in love with the house, date the mortgage.

LOL @ fall in love with the house and date the mortgage. Now if I could find a woman that would pay my mortgage, I would fall in love with her and date her EXCLUSIVELY ...................................... Boulder thanks, I think you have answered my question..............

[Interest Rates]

On 4/24/2024 at 1:38 PM, BigBaldBlk said:

I know they recently bumped to 7% but if anyone keeps waiting for interest rates to drop below 5%, the equity you could accumulate NOW will more than offset the higher rate.  I purchased my first home in 2000 and the interest rates were at 9%.  They were double-digits a few years prior.

Side note, if you can get solar panels, that too will add value now and future.

Triple I agree, the equity that I have made will offset whatever, especially if I go for a smaller home, so I am stuck for the moment and I have to SLOW MY ROLL for the time being................Jeesh, you got me over here about to lose it just thinking about a double digit interest rate...............