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http://coloradosprings.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-mature-blonde-arriving-friday-28th-2-9pm-37/12533427

"Please email your sign on (p411) so I can verify you" Can i send my credit card number and bank accounts too? :eek:

plus stolen pics, no phone, and .... oh hell it has it all! LE or garden variety scammer? Can anyone produce a better one? :rolleyes:

You can always tell when i'm bored, huh?

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http://coloradosprings.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-mature-blonde-arriving-friday-28th-2-9pm-37/12533427

"Please email your sign on (p411) so I can verify you" Can i send my credit card number and bank accounts too? :eek:

plus stolen pics, no phone, and .... oh hell it has it all! LE or garden variety scammer? Can anyone produce a better one? :rolleyes:

You can always tell when i'm bored, huh?

oh...

I think I'll just stay home & watch the Video instead...

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Actually, I think she didn't state it right...I think she meant your P411 I.D...I could be wrong...

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BE SMART GUYS! If you are interested in her find out who she is on P411 and send an appointment request. DO NOT EVER send your P411 Id in an e-mail!

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I agree that her ad is worded very poorly. However I believe she may be legit based on other ads linked to that poster ID and some research I did on that individual in the past.

DISCLAIMER: I have not seen or contacted her, do not know her and as I'm a relative newb in this community and in the hobby in general, my opinion counts for very little.

Just sayin' that while on the surface it may look very much like a scam or worse, it may just be a case of a poorly presented ad from a UTR, very cautious lady. FWIW.

Q

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I agree that her ad is worded very poorly. However I believe she may be legit based on other ads linked to that poster ID and some research I did on that individual in the past.

DISCLAIMER: I have not seen or contacted her, do not know her and as I'm a relative newb in this community and in the hobby in general, my opinion counts for very little.

Just sayin' that while on the surface it may look very much like a scam or worse, it may just be a case of a poorly presented ad from a UTR, very cautious lady. FWIW.

Q

What do you think about her borrowed photo's... ?

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Wouldn't be the first legit provider to use photos that aren't her.

Using photos of someone else, IMHO, automatically makes a girl non-legit. It's dishonest, and almost always, theft of photos. :cool:

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http://coloradosprings.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-mature-blonde-arriving-friday-28th-2-9pm-37/12533427

"Please email your sign on (p411) so I can verify you" Can i send my credit card number and bank accounts too? :eek:

plus stolen pics, no phone, and .... oh hell it has it all! LE or garden variety scammer? Can anyone produce a better one? :rolleyes:

You can always tell when i'm bored, huh?

I agree this "request for information" looks pretty bad. Here is some additional information about this provider.

Courtney Blake posted a previous ad on CS Backpage in which she gave an e-mail address courtneyblake4you@gmail.com and phone number 719-330-4907. Minor detail: she listed her age as 37 in previous ad and 35 in latest ad.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tJUm4S0BRi4J:coloradosprings.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/verified-provider-wednesday-22nd-over-35-only-37/12077426+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Courtney Blake is a "verified provider" on ECCIE with a showcase and 15 reviews over three and a half years.

http://www.eccie.net/providers.php?do=view&id=5523

http://www.eccie.net/member.php?u=5523&tab=eccie_reviews&pp=10

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What disturbed me was the claim of being p411 but I could not find any trace of her there, and especially requesting you blindly send her your p411 profile info via e-mail rather than thru p411 - something warned against by p411 REPEATEDLY. Then the large number of stolen photos - including most if not all on her Eccie showcase profile. maybe someone who is a member there can clarify what constitutes "verified" at Eccie - clearly not that the photos are real. :) Further checking indicates that she is also "Swedish Courtney, aka Debbie Dial" with three old reviews here. Maybe she is legit and if so I extend my apologies to her, but I am still not ok with the fake photos and asking guys to send p411 id etc. direct rather than thru p411. Melissa's advice above was short and right on. The ad set off alarms especially in view of some recent posts.

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My Eccie Super-Friends decoder ring doesn't have a lot to say about the meaning of "Eccie verified provider". I found the following:

ECCIE Worldwide Verified Providers and Agencies* may take advantage of numerous advertising possibilities within our Ad Posting forums.

*There is no charge for Verified Provider status or Verified Agency status, however this is subject to staff verification and approval.

http://www.eccie.net/ecciesubscriptions.php?do=advertising

So "Eccie verified provider" seems to mean that the "staff" has decided the provider is worthy to place free ads (such as Provider Showcase) or buy cost ads (such as banners).

It's interesting that you found "Swedish Courtney" is the same as Courtney Blake. Courtney Blake (Eccie) has reviews dating back to January 2010. "Swedish Courtney" on TOBreviews has reviews from February, May, and July 2008. Also, "Swedish Courtney" was described (in 2008) as "early to mid 30s, slender" or "early to mid 30s, medium build", or "late 30s to early 40s, medium build" - the usual confusion found in review descriptions.

http://tobreviews.com/index.cfm?show_all_reviews=yes&asp=1650

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I don't disagree that the ad is extremely sketch. The other ad that shows up linked to the one linked in the op's post is the same sentiment but worded better (eg request for site handle, references, etc). As to her being on p411, her profile seems to go active/inactive quite a bit as if she's limiting her exposure to only when she is available. She also claims to be Debbie Dial (pornstar). As I mentioned I have not personally spoken to her but have exchanged PM's with a member here who has.

I certainly do not dispute Melissa's advice and advocate the same myself. As to her photos, I have been called to the carpet before for suggesting a lady may be a scammer on the basis of photos alone. There are at least three ladies in COS I can think of who members here have seen who use photos not of themselves, one using pics of a very well known pornstar.

I only meant to suggest that perhaps the lady might warrant some further research before being relegated to the scrap heap of scammers. I've seen much research done for a random 411 request on a BP girl for a member. In fairness to the lady I only thought she deserved at least as much effort.

Q

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Wouldn't be the first legit provider to use photos that aren't her.

Agree with pfunk -- there's no such thing as a legit provider who borrows photos.

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What disturbed me was ... especially requesting you blindly send her your p411 profile info via e-mail rather than thru p411 - something warned against by p411 REPEATEDLY.

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Yup - that is the main concern IMHO

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