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Always go with your gut. Rule one. That said, if she's been well established and is still well established, posting ads, and receiving new reviews, they were probably false flags. Re-book with the understanding you'll bring a healthy tip in the form of a cancellation fee along with you. Nobody's fault if that was the case. It's just reasonable to keep your rep in the green.

I know it must have looked like a 'sure thing' all the way up to the knock on the door, but with that kind of distance involved, snow or not, think a plan B is almost mandatory. Even a plan C and D. Think we can all relate, as it happens more than we'd like.

I think any experienced hobbyist knows how to read between the lines of a review. Read enough and see enough that you become savvy in the art of reading and writing them. There's no road map on this stuff, anyway, just perceived experiences. After all, one man's 'flakiness' just might be another man's 'sharp as a tack'. Getting nasty on review details only makes the writer look petty and soon his reviews will be skipped over. I'd keep the negatives limited to rip offs, up-selling, fake pics, etc., discoveries that can hurt the reputation of the community as a whole if allowed to continue without comment. JMO.

I have to cringe when someone start talking about asking menu specifics up front. If they're that set on certain items, I can only suggest setting up a mutually verified and confidential dialogue with the prospective provider before doing so. But understand that even with promised specifics and the most pointed reviews, the YMMV factor is always in play. Until the actual meet, there's always a roll the dice involved to some extent.

There's definitely a difference. UTF is fellatio sans preservatif while BBBJ is unprotected oral. But for all the newbies, no. there's no difference. UTF is just a lesser used term.

Oldertruckguy is, of course, correct in his definition. I'd only submit that the word is a euphemism often employed to file off the rough edges when referring to the more physical aspects of the hobby. I've used it a lot in reviews and believe most of us could agree that 'being intimate' sounds better than, omitting the four letter terms, 'getting sticky'. And yes, if nothing else, this blog proves I also have a dictionary. LOL

YoungGun, you should probably check your backside in the mirror cause I think your youth is showing. Unless this is a four-digit provider you're talking about, way too much expectation on your part. If you were going to ding her on a review it could only be for seeing clients during that time of month when she shouldn't. But before you do, might be a good idea to say good-bye to her, cause she'll undoubtedly block your number when it comes out.

With in-calls you just have to roll with it (JMO). Many moons ago I booked with a younger young girl just joining the community. Could tell she wasn't quite with the program by the venue, but got that old sinking feeling when she announced we had to go out to buy some protection. Then had to front for it. Went with it, hell, I was there, and looking at her all the blood had left the big head, so we did the little rod trip thing. In the end it was one off the bucket list. Never know. Part of the charm that is the hobby. I do have an in-call kit I've developed over the years for hotels, but nothing that could link you with the hobby. More of an 'i'm here for legitimate reasons' kit. Hobbying 201. Guys that have been around for a while have probably figured out the same 'disguise'.

Way back in the day, AMPs were one of my primary points of horizontal refreshment. The pics were always fake and you'd be rolling the dice, but have to say some of the girls were absolutely breathtaking and the experience hit all the bases. Unfortunately, over the years the qualify diminished and eventual so did my interest. The LE attention has taken its toll. but must still be frustrating for them. They'd stamp one out and another would pop up with the same girls down the street. But for today's hobbyist, I just don't think the risk is worth it. Even if you just go it to get the massage, you're bound to be jumped on sooner or later when you leave. Go to Massage Envy or whatever.

Question : How can a NCNS be subjective ? She is either at the date or she isn't. Only take a minute to text or to call to cancel. Leaving someone hanging like that is just a horrible business practice. The ladies do not like NCNS and so do the men. Answer: The activity (NCNS) isn't subjective, but the time frame can be, depending on the reviewer's perception. Is there a definition of a NCNS in the reviewer's handbook? What are the time parameters involved? Two examples from my own experiences: I once drove all the way to Ft Collins, only to experience a string of unanswered messages on the final approach. Learned later that evening the provider's kin had shown up at her private in-call unannounced just before our meet. She couldn't show, couldn't call. Technically, a NCNS for the appointment and a long wasted drive. But, I rescheduled and the ultimate review was glowing. On the other hand, I had one on the same deal call me back the day after saying her cell phone had fallen in the toilet. I suspected double booking and opted not to reschedule, reviewing it a NCNS, but included her excuse to let anyone else interested make up their own mind. While not arguing that not showing and never calling back is the textbook definition of NCNS, no two reviewers seem to define or review the term the same exact way. Including me. JMO.

Just a thought, maybe the 'no, maybe, yes' answer on the review page should be re-qualified from 'recommend' to something like 'would I see this provider again'. We all agree that reviews are subjective to the wants, needs, expectations, and perceptions of any particular reviewer. Even seemingly black and white terms like 'rip-off' and NCNS can be subjective as to how the reviewer perceives them and can vary widely. Anyone who does their homework on the review site, over time, gets to know what reviewers match their tastes. In short, reviewers should just relate their experience and let the reader decide for themselves, keeping in mind at all times that YMMV and one reviewers NCNS or rip-off might not be yours or another reviewer's. In a way, 'recommend' seems a bit more judgmental and final. It puts a stigma on the provider, maybe deserved, maybe not and can bring swift retribution on the reviewer, maybe deserved, maybe not. Saying something more like 'Hey, thanks but think I'll move on' is more relative to the experience, hopefully with the reasons delineated in the actual body of the review. Just musing over points brought up by fmr_racerCOS.

I'm older, so maybe it's easier for me to say this, but don't believe in social media at all. Sad that's coming to this. Think if I were a provider, I'd conduct everything through a network like 411 with no personal information on my ad. When one has recourse, as one would have through such a venue, one could expect more professional discourse. Might limit exposure for business, but would definitely limit exposure to abuse.

If one insists on frequenting AMP's, one has to think a bit like an M.I. agent and think way ahead of the visit, as well as have a good exit strategy. In the end, it's just not worth it, unless one gets off as much on the prospects of LE attention as they do the AMP experience. Through the years, all the attention has degraded the overall quality of girls and nearly eradicated that niche of the bizz, anyway. Too bad, really. If you eliminate the trafficking aspect and decriminalize the industry as a whole, it could be a completely safe and wholly therapeutic outlet for male (and female) 'tension'.

There's a wide range of possibilities here, so you have to take a step back and consider some. First, you admit you're new here and that sometimes raises red flags for providers, especially outside the 411 network. I'd admit that two in one day is unusual, but first I'd search for newbie friendly providers for a while and work up a good resume in the community. Providers have a wide and varied array of verifying guys and often book a session before checking into them. Then, they find something they don't like and rather than fence with texts and excuses, they just drop you like a bad habit. Others double book and then pick and choose. Not knowing who you were trying to book with, no one can say anything to the reputation of them, so you'll have to decide on your own what the possibilities are. If they were fringe providers, two in a day is still unusual, but it can happen. Think we among the community have all had our share of NCNS experiences, but established guys seeing established providers, especially through a trusted network, have fewer that those who don't. Reviewing is another means of curtailing these experiences. If a provider can surmise a NCNS review will follow a NCNS session, they might be less likely to drop you. I always give some time before writing one, just in case something went terribly sideways and she couldn't get back to me. Happy hunting.

Inkspot is on target concerning the AMP ads that proliferate during the day. And if you do your homework on the out-call Asian ads that seem to dominate BP during the wee hours, you'll find that they are mostly 3G with a limited menus. Pics on all these ads are rarely, if ever, legit as it just seems to be the accepted norm for them. Used to partake of such box-of-chocolates AMP's and occasional BP listings back in the day, and there were some gems to be found, rare as they were. But after a while one succumbs to the safe and sure bets on 411. Have to ad kudos to Cowboy on prurient, even if was misspelled. Don't think Kitten's knowledge of it's correct spelling would classify her as a sesquipedalian, though, which Yorick also misspelled, but kudos for even knowing the word. Had to look it all up out of curiosity cuz had no knowledge of either. Live and learn, just like hanging out in BP.

Replying only to the original question, it's Hobbying 101; you never request true ID of a provider, tit for tat or not. Granted, her asking for yours in the form of driver's license is somewhat inane, unless she's checking to make sure you're over 18. Short of making a copy, what can be garnered in the brief glance at an ID? Outside of P411, date check, and other trusted avenues of verification, I can only see it as testing your willingness to expose personal information. Bottom line, if you're reasonably sure the provider is legit, there shouldn't be any problem showing ID. Don't blame her for cutting things off at your counter-demand. Understand it might have been a knee-jerk reaction on your part. Kind of amusing, but if you understand hobbying, your retort was almost like telling her to forget it. Any serious hobbyist would know where that was going. Move on. Lesson learned.

Started out with the back pages of Westword and through a provider discovered TOB, which seemed to be just getting started at the time. Used it primarily for posts and research until P411 came along. Now both sites are used in tandem. Utilize Eccie when there's a link, especially for snapshot reviews, but never figured out how to fully navigate their site (Neanderthal Nerd) . TER is favored when traveling in territories not strongly represented by 411. Craigslist (no longer) and Backpage (almost no longer) overall are mine fields and jokes for any serious hobbyist (IMO), but have found gems through deep research. Used SoWet during my AMP days, but drifted away about the same time the site did. For posting reviews, TOB is favored. TER is too difficult to meet their standards and, as mentioned, and can't navigate Eccie. TOB's format is more user friendly. For research, like Eccie because it's short and to the point, but TOB is still 'go-to' site. Trick is to find reviewers who share your taste and keep their 'experiences' brief. Bottom line is, hobbying is like that box of chocolates the Gumpster always talked about. Part of the exhilaration, actually.

LOL. Not your caffeine intake as it relates to sex. Just your overstimulated thinking that spawned the question. Thought provoking, though it is. I once caught a glimpse of a elderly gentleman waiting in a AMP room and thought to myself, "Good for him. Hope I still can when I'm that age.' Word is, things get spunky if those assisted living homes, men and women alike.

Seriously Javajunkie, you need to rethink your caffeine intake. For us guys, the answer is easy, no matter what your age: Whenever you're UP for it.

This is the advantage the board holds over other mediums of posting (backpage, eros, etc.): A review system attached right to the site. If you're comfortable enough to post here, you should go ahead with an honest, accurate review. You TOFTT. It happens.

Team DTC, reasons of proximity and parking, if those are your only two options. Otherwise, Alexa is spot on.

If you sensed something coming back from her that seemed 'off' from most of her reviews, then you were probably experiencing a 'YMMV' issue and it can be reviewed as such. You can usually get a sense if she just didn't take to you or if she was just having an off day. Review it like it happened, but if you plan to go back, be very tactful how you put it. Speaking from experience.