MelindaMadison

(I can see why a lady would *cricket* you in that case..and it's different than the OP's discussion/situation) If you approach someone and they do not want to see you i.e.: "busy" or "not working" when clearly is available to others....and you tried to get thru using a different number (Big Question is....WHY would you do that? text someone from two different numbers? to cloak yourself? hide hobby identity? / reputation? ..... then it just comes across as stalkerish/creepy AF. Seroiusly, gotta call you out on that one. and most companions will veer Far Far away from that behavior. I think it was a way of the lady telling you to take your business elsewhere..

This has less to do with Venmo or paying in advance or deposits than it does that it sounds like you didn't even pick a legit provider (or a very stupid one at that). The way you described all that went down sounds pretty shady. Payment apps are popular among traveling ladies, longer date appts to take deposits so that our time is not abused...(especially NOW with new legislation and lack of advertising venues) ...BUT...it takes a good amount of professionalism and discretion to pull it off and make a gent comfortable with it. What you described sounded more like a "scam" or a girl starting this who neither knows how to screen nor handle appts professionally. You'll see more and more payment apps and methods in the future (Paypal is NOT provider friendly btw) amongst professionals and as the millennial crowd grows up (it's super common with my under 35 friends) but it will also yield ignorants and con artists. Sounds like you need to choose your providers better...

Pretty much this... at $65 a month for just an ad title...and with a lot of the "u avail?" knuckleheads that have plagued providers more than ever recently...... we often have to figure out what is best for our advertising $. For some of us that have ft careers or only moonlit part time...we poke our heads out to spend ad$ only occasionally (but may focus on other ad venues like established twitter profiles and our regulars..) Every lady is different and TOB is a good resource but only a small drop in the bucket nationwide of resources that ladies (even local ladies) use now. (although that bucket is much smaller than recent years...) . Play nicely all! Mel

(never mentioning any names of specific hotels) ..but instead "areas"...I personally waffle between Sugar House and Downtown SLC... but then i tend to do private in calls.....but those are the two areas that are exceptional. I stay away from south SLC...simply due to traffic at rush hour and it's a touch far from what i like to do personally (Temple, Tabernacle, dining etc)

East Bay visitor here.

Todoesprivado, it sounds like if you wish to view this in a session, the more appropriate thing would not be to ask a lady to purchase it...but bring it along as a gift! how fun!

Received the Same here. I will happily assist someone I Know in that case...but a total stranger to me from the internet..... Too risky.

Same here. The amount of f*&^ery and frustration goes down immensely with email only. You get less inquiries but mainly more sincere inquiries that took the time to read your ad/site (although less so in recent years) At first i didn't have a phone link due to having a career/school (who has time to carry 2 phones and pick up with private life all the time AND try to be discreet? I don't.) And, in the past, phone girls were almost always main LE targets in busts as it was easy to pick up and dial.......then texting came on rampant and the "u avail?" craziness started. I've experimented every once in a while with the hopes that a gent would listen to my voicemail for further directions..(and feel comfort in my presentation and sugar voice) .but last experiment had 150 or so one-two word texts and zero bookings...so I dropped it and went back to the tried and true method of send me an intro and screening info in your 1st email method... I want to look back at this venture in my life loving my male company and not feeling frustrated or jaded from bad experiences... I don't know how some of you ladies who do texts and direct calls do it.... Hugs to you. xoxo Mel

ladies, please be wary....the days of banners not being seen as pandering/promoting other ladies in this age of "war on trafficking" may be over. Taking things underground with private referrals may be a lot less risky if one of you get in trouble and to avoid unnecessary attention.

I am in love with the Sandias, Rt 66 and the area.... wanted to shout out Hello in introduction as my travels take me there in the spring (I don't "tour" per se as my "real life career" has me traveling and i occasionally like to connect with a friend or two) Particularly looking for mtn biking in Santa Fe and an exceptional restaurant and coffee shop and a good camping spot.

Those who had pain in advance for sponsor ads ...and kept them updated before they expired (you could buy a month or a week).. are the ones with longer verbiage. If a provider let her ad expire where she needed to "renew" it- it gets bounced to the new system. Pretty soon...all will be just the numbers.

Rioja in Larimer Square. (many other choices in the Square also) Check out what is in Union Station (also multi choices) and patio at Root Down. Acorn in RiNo. for exceptional small plates and cocktails.

Greetings! In the past my "real life" career has taken me to SLC and i've had the pleasure of wonderful company during what little free time I have had there (i do not "tour" per se but almost always have been there often in combination with a business trip- although always amenable to a Fly Me to You I miss the former AHB board and the friends i have made there and reaching out here to reconnect if any have gravitated here that i have missed...esp with my fall travels out that way. xoxo Mel

Western Slope unfortunately has a reputation behind the scenes and talk amongst the ladies for non-commitment and cancellations. There's a post like this every so often-but typically the guys approaching want the lady to take the risk of hours of travel out to be available IF and WHEN they feel the urge for them to connect for an appt. When one lives in an area that is not heavy with providers-it's often necessary to prebook/commit/deposit/be reliable and actually show up for your appt-gain the reputation as a gentleman AND the region (as being profitable for ladies to come out) before having any carte blanche with choosing on your own schedule. Western Slope has often been lots of promises yet lack of actually showing the $. (for all price point providers). I have had good luck with my longer regular dates/fly-in's and deposited appts but when i offer the shorter dates/non-deposited appts- i get flakes like some of the other ladies have run into.

Thanks Raoul,....but i'm more of a curvy, Crossfit, mtn biking type and fluffy off-season right now. I'll be back racing and competing come late spring/summer... a little bit of healthy jiggle, still working out like crazy but i think he may be looking for a leaner type.

BUT...that sounds like it was a Mutual agreement between both parties to go that direction in YOUR case. The OP seems to be contemplating booking with someone he knows ( a former gf of a friend of his) (probably NOT pre-agreed upon cooperation from all parties involved). However successful you may have been in bridging the gap between professional provider and turning them into personal friend or gf- there are many cases and stories of this type of relationship gone wrong which just brings forth a low of wrath, heartbreak and drama. Always best to avoid. To the OP: there are plenty of wonderful ladies out there that aren't tied into your personal life and friendships- and she may not be in a situation where she wants to service a buddy of her ex either. (or if she does-should be given the choice Before booking-although i suspect that may be awkward as hell for both of you)

This world is suppose to be drama-free (yes-in Utopia) AND DISCREET. There's no element of discretion in the action that you are contemplating taking. Seriously- can't even believe this is on the table. If roles were reversed...any truly professional lady would avoid the appointment to veer away from any issues that may develop from it. You don't mix real-life world with fantasy world- Period. That's just being professional- and Safe.

Exactly why i have always remained somewhat "Old School" in my discretionary practices. (There is no "Melinda Phone" nor "Melinda Phone Number" floating around out there.) In the past.. 1.Phone girls were most targeted by LE (easy for them to run down the list of numbers to run a same day/same nite sting) and 2. time wasters ("Oh Goodie! I can chat up an escort!") or 3am calls- or rejected/danger guys-changing hobby phones and trying to bypass the past and get in. 3. SO's can google a number on their hubby's or BF's phone and LINK identities/activites to an escort. 4. SO's FIND a "hobby phone" (and no, guys- they will not believe that it is a roadside emergency phone- there's been enough talk about "hobby phone's" out there for any woman to know what they are. 5. Guy's leaving "call me back" and not saying what time is discreet to do so and RISK of the provider calling back at the wrong time..or missing the opportunity to connect. Overall.... Phone's (although convenient to the "want it now" crowd HAVE more RISK than payoff. *** YES..it's important to me to speak to a new friend by phone prior to meeting them- but we arrange that privately after the introduction is made and they are committed to meet. LESS HEADACHE... but also...I go through GREAT Lengths to protect both myself and My Client's Discretion and leave NO CHANCE to error of a phone password being known by an SO or a Silly TEXT (OMG- don't get me started on the lack of discretion of THOSE) and a gent by accident not locking down his Shit. (or even the super rarity of an SO showing up in a blind jealous rage to an incall - people get hurt that way) Yes, call me Old School...but my life has been super peaceful in the drama department and all the years I've been playing- have eliminated the stalkers-never had a call or email from an SO -ever! (and emails are easier to passcode and hide for most) frustrations and risks that can tarnish the pleasure of this venture. That's what works for me.

probably not as creepy as an escort saving her client's pictures on her computer or printing out for good sakes...(from P411 or correspondance etc) to "Remember Good Times".... See? It's more of a discretion issue than anything else.....

"Facebook your Friends and Tweet Your Twat" is a phrase often used. Facebook is not so discreet - as it webs into real life for people...and not suggested for the Hobby. Twitter is NOT generally used for finding clients (the gentlemen who are the successful movers and shakers in industry..are not spending their time trolling Twitter)...but is used as an extra "Get to Know Me" tool for many providers... and with P411 getting rid of the Message Boards that were once used effectively for availability or visiting different cities- it has replaced that role for some ladies. (Not every provider is sitting on the computer or in an incall with "come get me now 'real time" type of business) It also has been an effective networking tool for national providers to connect with other providers in other cities to gather info about market, restaurants to go to, things to do. So...it is a useful tool...but not in the Direct Advertising sense. That being said..it gives gentlemen a running timeline of posts that they can view and get a feel not only for a provider's personality...but in any potential personality clashes-drama etc. (just as a lady may evaluate a guy's reviews/board posts/online behavior to ensure a gentleman may be nice in person)

A guy who has ulterior motives to harm [snip} or murder..is hardly going to be the type of guy who is forthcoming in their identity when they walk in the door. Prudent ladies..have a system where if they disappear or are harmed seriously...someone in their life will know where to look to see who they met last...so that police can be contacted. It was always real life info in the past that kept providers safe from those types in most cases.. If it was my personal home..I know i would not just let an anonymous guy walk in.. There's ways of screening to make both parties feel comfortable and this is a case of someone meaning to do harm that felt he would not get caught...you wonder why that is. hmm Thank God she is OK. RIP to the possible others he killed.

If you have ever personally known a woman who was killed or beaten in the job of providing- it changes your standards pretty darn quick against what "risks" you are willing to take. Men are afraid of a provider telling their wives. I am afraid of being murdered. Big difference.

Guys are afraid of giving their real names because they may not trust you to keep their discretion (new providers/ TOFTT cases..those not established) ...whereas as a provider...I am afraid of murder, rape and stalking. Those who are forthcoming with their info and have already done their savvy research on a provider- are not the ones that cause you harm, hurt you, waste your time, counterfeit you or rip you off. Screen as you please....you will attract what you set your standards and boundaries at. On the flip side- as a provider- you owe it to all your clients to have your discretion/security systems locked down as super professionally as you can. ( no "black books" extensive or telling email records/ indiscreet texting or calling from a listed/known escort phone number..etc etc... ) and even with a real name...you need to know HOW to prove it is HIS real name vs a fake. If you cannot do that and assure that safety for your clients...they have every reason to worry. Stay safe..and remember ..if you are beaten up or harmed or good client goes bad (as what happens with "good referenced" guys sometime) ..you can't go to the police with a TOB Handle, a P411 handle or "Joe" 41 yr old with brown hair and tall". The risk is yours to take or not to take. there will always be those johns who want anonymity..and that's fine. In the past- they had the avenues of the streets or newsprint ads...now ALL TYPES are on the net. Anonymity and Discretion are two different things. A smart man not only knows the difference but chooses his companions super wisely to ensure it.

you have a PM.

it has nothing to do with "up north" or "stay away from BP" as there are reputable providers that often use those venues in certain areas where BP yields sweet non-jaded gents or traveling gents... This has more to do with guys not researching and going for cheap pussy. stick with well-known ladies and this crap doesn't happen. Play the TTFTT game or TGTBT price point- you might as well put a sign "arrest me..i'm a risk taker" on yourself.